Author Topic: This should settle some different opinions (Read 141731 times)

Wilm · « **Reply #3500 on:** April 07, 2024, 15:34 »

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Incidentally, you argue about the Third World War in exactly the same way as the Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov.
I'm not surprised by your sources of information. It is now clear who you are listening to or reading.

The difference between you and me:
Your opinion is congruent with that of the Russian propaganda machine. Mine is not.
Your argument is simply off the charts. Compare me with putin, Hitler, Musolini...
If you do not see the difference between what I write and Russian propaganda, this is entirely your personal problem.

The fact remains that your opinions that the Third World War has already begun coincide with those of Vladimir Solovyov - and mine do not. Readers will form their own judgment.
If I were you, however, it would give me pause for thought that your opinion coincides with that of a full-blooded Russian propagandist. Perhaps you could just think about it...

Wilm · « **Reply #3501 on:** April 07, 2024, 15:39 »

It is also interesting that Vladimir Solovyov also refers to your dearest friend Donald Trump. If the Russian propaganda machine thinks and argues in the same way as Donald Trump, that should also give you pause for thought.

Wilm · « **Reply #3502 on:** April 07, 2024, 15:42 »

But ultimately it doesn't matter. I could just as well argue with a square meter of country road - the effect is the same. You've built a world view for yourself that nobody will be able to dissuade you from. Until Trump is president - then you will understand what others here have been trying to tell you for hundreds of pages.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #3503 on:** April 07, 2024, 17:12 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 07, 2024, 14:19

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 07, 2024, 13:54
Former U.S. President Donald Trump has privately said he could end Russia’s war by pressuring Ukraine to cede Crimea and Donbas to Moscow, the Washington Post reported on April 7, citing sources.

https://kyivindependent.com/wp-trump-privately-said-he-could-pressure-ukraine-to-concede-crimea-donbas-to-russia/

This is so obvious for anyone with an IQ>85

Only putin's useful idiots believe that the moron and his maga cult would save Ukraine.
1. Zero Talent, what is your IQ?
2. The sources of this newspaper are not known, named or trustworthy.
3. This all looks like propaganda from the Democrats and Russians against Trump.
4. The Russians annexed part of the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions. They won't want to leave there voluntarily. These are the facts.
5. Trump, as a non-official, can say whatever he wants as long as he does not violate US criminal law.
6. Trump before the presidency and Trump as president will be completely different people. The position obliges him, and the information he will receive from the CIA.
7. Trump does not solve such issues. There must be congressional support in the US.
8. Ukraine will not agree to such proposals.

Right, right, now even The Kyiv Independent is spreading propaganda from the Democrats!
Only a few enlightened people like you can see through it and believe the opposite.
Right, right...

No surprise here... Individuals with an IQ below 85 may experience difficulty in extracting pertinent features related to a specific topic (abstraction). Additionally, they may encounter challenges in providing examples of situations where specific features are present (concretization).

This is why only people with an IQ of less than 85, more specifically, putin's useful idiots, can still believe that trump and his maga cult will save Ukraine, despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary..

trucic · « **Reply #3504 on:** April 07, 2024, 22:42 »

NATO Secretary General says Ukraine will have to decide which compromises it will accept in war with Russia https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/6/7450046/index.amp

Wilm · « **Reply #3505 on:** April 08, 2024, 01:50 »

The forewarning of what is to come is already on the table.

America First in combination with the narcissism and hunger for power of Donald Trump is leading to the blocking of funds to support Ukraine. Selensky clearly states that Ukraine will lose without these funds. Perhaps there is already a deal going on in the background between Trump and Putin - who knows.

And if Trump wins, the second part of America First will begin. Securing the border against migration from the south and increasing Trump's power to increase his personal wealth. America First could also be called Trump First. And his followers are also promising themselves more power and wealth under Trump.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3506 on:** April 08, 2024, 03:36 »

Quote from: trucic on April 07, 2024, 22:42

NATO Secretary General says Ukraine will have to decide which compromises it will accept in war with Russia https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/6/7450046/index.amp

You started reading Ukrainian media, that’s good.

Oh yes, this friend of the US Democrats has been in his position for a long time. He needs to be changed urgently or put in prison along with Biden.
Yesterday, the Ukrainian media voiced what compromises could be made if NATO does not change its rhetoric and policies. Ukraine can quickly offer the Russian orcs unhindered passage of their 500 thousandth army to the Balkans, Hungary and Slovakia. I think NATO countries will really like this compromise.

There is no need to joke with Ukraine and there is no need to give Ukraine ultimatums. The consequences of such a policy could cost the EU its independence.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3507 on:** April 08, 2024, 03:42 »

Quote from: Wilm on April 07, 2024, 15:34

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 07, 2024, 13:47
Quote from: Wilm on April 07, 2024, 12:57
Quote from: stoker2014 on April 07, 2024, 12:18
Quote from: Wilm on April 07, 2024, 11:48
Incidentally, you argue about the Third World War in exactly the same way as the Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov.
I'm not surprised by your sources of information. It is now clear who you are listening to or reading.

The difference between you and me:
Your opinion is congruent with that of the Russian propaganda machine. Mine is not.
Your argument is simply off the charts. Compare me with putin, Hitler, Musolini...
If you do not see the difference between what I write and Russian propaganda, this is entirely your personal problem.

The fact remains that your opinions that the Third World War has already begun coincide with those of Vladimir Solovyov - and mine do not. Readers will form their own judgment.
If I were you, however, it would give me pause for thought that your opinion coincides with that of a full-blooded Russian propagandist. Perhaps you could just think about it...

Your texts about politics are at the level of 3-5 class of primary school. I always read your speculations with a smile. But it's not bad. A lot of people have never been interested in politics or history. This is how people live in democratic countries.
As for Russian propaganda, I already wrote that in professional propaganda 80-90% may be true. The propaganda you see in the EU is professionally prepared.
I can’t comment on the Russian propaganda you listen to, because I don’t listen to it. That's all I can tell you.
The goals of the Russians are roughly clear: to occupy the EU until the EU realizes what is happening.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3508 on:** April 08, 2024, 03:47 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 07, 2024, 17:12

Right, right, now even The Kyiv Independent is spreading propaganda from the Democrats!

Of course, the Ukrainian media publishes what is written in influential US newspapers. To understand what is written, a person must have knowledge. Therefore, people who want to understand the essence of what is happening turn to the help of experts. The expert’s task is to explain to people the essence of what is happening. At this forum, so far I am the only one acting as such an expert. If someone better comes along, I will gladly give up this place.

You still haven't answered the question what is your IQ?

Zero Talent · « **Reply #3509 on:** April 08, 2024, 08:43 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 08, 2024, 03:47

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 07, 2024, 17:12
Right, right, now even The Kyiv Independent is spreading propaganda from the Democrats!
Of course, the Ukrainian media publishes what is written in influential US newspapers. To understand what is written, a person must have knowledge. Therefore, people who want to understand the essence of what is happening turn to the help of experts. The expert’s task is to explain to people the essence of what is happening. At this forum, so far I am the only one acting as such an expert. If someone better comes along, I will gladly give up this place.

You still haven't answered the question what is your IQ?

For putin's useful idiots, when the exact same media is criticizing the current administration, they are telling the truth. When they mention trump's and maga's systematic anti-Ukraine positions, they are spreading propaganda.

Obviously only self proclaimed experts, also known as putin's useful idiots can tell the difference.

trucic · « **Reply #3510 on:** April 08, 2024, 08:49 »

As Ukraine’s Missiles Run Low, Russian Attack Pilots Are Pushing Closer To The Front Line—And Rocketing Ukrainian Troops
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/08/as-ukraines-missiles-run-low-russian-attack-pilots-are-pushing-closer-to-the-front-line-and-rocketing-ukrainian-troops/

Zero Talent · « **Reply #3511 on:** April 08, 2024, 08:55 »

Quote from: trucic on April 08, 2024, 08:49

As Ukraine’s Missiles Run Low, Russian Attack Pilots Are Pushing Closer To The Front Line—And Rocketing Ukrainian Troops
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/08/as-ukraines-missiles-run-low-russian-attack-pilots-are-pushing-closer-to-the-front-line-and-rocketing-ukrainian-troops/

For self proclaimed experts, also known as putin's useful idiots the obvious explanations mentioned in the article are just propaganda:

But then, in October, Russia-friendly Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives blocked further U.S. aid to Ukraine—and Ukraine’s air-defense batteries began to run low on missiles.

trucic · « **Reply #3512 on:** April 08, 2024, 09:14 »

… but, Bram Stokers reality will see this part of the text as KGB propaganda, like before…

trucic · « **Reply #3513 on:** April 08, 2024, 09:26 »

New Footage Shows Su-34s Drop Thermobaric Glide Bombs on Ukrainian Forces: ’Vacuum’ Weapons Target Forces in Cover
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/footage-su34s-thermobaric-ukrainian-vacuum

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3514 on:** April 08, 2024, 09:59 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 08, 2024, 08:43

For putin's useful idiots, when the exact same media is criticizing the current administration, they are telling the truth.

I don’t know any media in the US that criticize Biden and the Democrats. Indicate these media in this thread, unless of course you are a Russian useful idiot.

Quote from: trucic on April 08, 2024, 08:49

As Ukraine’s Missiles Run Low, Russian Attack Pilots Are Pushing Closer To The Front Line—And Rocketing Ukrainian Troops
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/08/as-ukraines-missiles-run-low-russian-attack-pilots-are-pushing-closer-to-the-front-line-and-rocketing-ukrainian-troops/

This is the result of the rule of Biden and the US Democrats. Ukraine was not provided with F16 aircraft and was not provided with the required quantity of Patriot complexes. The aid from the Democrats, which the Republicans are blocking, does not have all this either.
The limited number of Patriot air defense systems supplied does not allow them to be deployed on the front line. Therefore, Russian aviation feels confident.
Democrats - fuck you!

Quote from: trucic on April 08, 2024, 09:26

New Footage Shows Su-34s Drop Thermobaric Glide Bombs on Ukrainian Forces: ’Vacuum’ Weapons Target Forces in Cover
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/footage-su34s-thermobaric-ukrainian-vacuum

This is Russian propaganda. These bombs have no accuracy. Everything written in this article is a lie. The accuracy of these bombs has an error of several kilometers. The situation is not critical at all.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3515 on:** April 08, 2024, 10:01 »

The EU now understands what the Russian successes in Ukraine may threaten it with. Therefore, the EU has now begun supplying a large number of shells to Ukraine. As far as I know, this also applies to missiles for various air defenses and Patriot air defense systems are also expected.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3516 on:** April 08, 2024, 10:06 »

So, I believe that I respond normally to propaganda from US Democrats and propaganda from their Russian friends. If the situation in Ukraine was as bad as the Russians and democrats write, the Armed Forces of Ukraine would not be able to hold the positions that they hold. I think as an expert, I’m doing a good job on this topic.
Yes, the word expert does not sound familiar, but what I do is called the work of an expert. That's what it's called.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3517 on:** April 08, 2024, 10:15 »

It’s funny to read some non-Ukrainian media that confidently and categorically tell what is happening in Ukraine. Of course, I understand that such propaganda comes from US Democrats and their supporters. But for people who want to know the truth, I recommend reading either me or listening to Ukrainian military experts.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #3518 on:** April 08, 2024, 11:48 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 08, 2024, 09:59

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 08, 2024, 08:43
For putin's useful idiots, when the exact same media is criticizing the current administration, they are telling the truth.
I don’t know any media in the US that criticize Biden and the Democrats. Indicate these media in this thread, unless of course you are a Russian useful idiot.

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Quote from: stoker2014 on July 23, 2023, 09:32

Ukraine’s Lack of Weaponry and Training Risks Stalemate in Fight With Russia
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia-f51ecf9?fbclid=IwAR0CDINKl65bbsuKVcQ8h28b44MWjCUsJ6-XH6OiLBvljNTmYMMGIxcQdf8

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia/ar-AA1edW4t

The article criticizes Biden's policies.

It is also known that people with IQ below 85 (putin's useful idiots among them) live in a permanent present. The past and the future are a nebula and they cannot see determination.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #3519 on:** April 08, 2024, 11:58 »

... see above ☝️

Wilm · « **Reply #3520 on:** April 08, 2024, 12:29 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 08, 2024, 10:06

Ithink as an expert, I’m doing a good job on this topic.
Yes, the word expert does not sound familiar, but what I do is called the work of an expert. That's what it's called.

You lack two things: Modesty and understanding.
As far as your narcissism, arrogance and hubris are concerned, you are on the same level as Trump. You even use his rhetoric.
However, I agree with you on one point: Ukraine needs ammunition and, above all, patriots. It would be good if the EU could fill the current hole created by the Trumpists.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3521 on:** April 08, 2024, 12:39 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 08, 2024, 11:48

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 08, 2024, 09:59
Quote from: Zero Talent on April 08, 2024, 08:43
For putin's useful idiots, when the exact same media is criticizing the current administration, they are telling the truth.
I don’t know any media in the US that criticize Biden and the Democrats. Indicate these media in this thread, unless of course you are a Russian useful idiot.
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Quote from: stoker2014 on July 23, 2023, 09:32
Ukraine’s Lack of Weaponry and Training Risks Stalemate in Fight With Russia
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia-f51ecf9?fbclid=IwAR0CDINKl65bbsuKVcQ8h28b44MWjCUsJ6-XH6OiLBvljNTmYMMGIxcQdf8

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia/ar-AA1edW4t

The article criticizes Biden's policies.

It is also known that people with IQ below 85 (putin's useful idiots among them) live in a permanent present. The past and the future are a nebula and I cannot see determination.

I think your IQ is very low if you think that The Wall Street Journal is a publication opposed to US Democrats.
But judging by your stupid trolling, you are very good at helping Trump raise his ratings. People who read you understand that Democratic supporters are either trolls or useful idiots of russia.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3522 on:** April 08, 2024, 12:44 »

Quote from: Wilm on April 08, 2024, 12:29

However, I agree with you on one point: Ukraine needs ammunition and, above all, patriots. It would be good if the EU could fill the current hole created by the Trumpists.

1. There is no need to discuss a person’s personal qualities; there are no ideal people. All people have their shortcomings.
2. The EU should have been involved in the supply of large quantities of weapons to Ukraine a long time ago. I see that you understand this.
3. Ukraine also needs at least 64 F16 this year and 150-200 F16 in 2025. Without gaining air superiority, Ukraine will only be on the defensive. Defense means murder and genocide of civilians by Russian Na.zis.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #3523 on:** April 08, 2024, 12:54 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 08, 2024, 12:39

The Wall Street Journal is a publication opposed to US Democrats.

Oh no! You asked me to name a US media outlet that is criticizing Biden, after you named two of them yourself without even realizing it.
But as we all know you are an expert at swallowing your words without being able to understand them.

Can you please continue to swallow your words even more and name the plethora of Washington Post articles you quoted and endorsed in this thread?

But only if we are not asking too much from you. It is known that people with IQ below 85 (putin's useful idiots among them) live in a permanent present.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3524 on:** April 08, 2024, 13:31 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on April 08, 2024, 12:54

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 08, 2024, 12:39
The Wall Street Journal is a publication opposed to US Democrats.

Oh no! You asked me to name a US media outlet that is criticizing Biden, after you named two of them yourself without even realizing it.
But as we all know you are an expert at swallowing your words without being able to understand them.

Can you please continue to swallow your words even more and name the plethora of Washington Post articles you quoted and endorsed in this thread?

Yes, I quote some articles from American newspapers and characterize what is written there. If I wrote that the article is critical, it is because I gave an explanation of why it is critical. The authors of the article did not write it as critical. Such articles are intended for a wide audience that does not understand the causes and consequences.

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