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« on: May 11, 2020, 18:04 »
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Hey,

i just applied to become a contributor at Envato Elements and after some time of entering data I finally reached a site telling me:

Your Application has been submitted successfully. GoodLuck!
If you are successful you should expect an email from the team - this can take up to 5 weeks
If you are unsuccessful you won't hear from us.
We appreciate your patience!


This must be a joke... are they serious? If i didn't make it, they don't even send a f...ing email?

If I make it there, i will immadiatly close down that account... unbelievable how photographers are treated these days :)
« Last Edit: May 11, 2020, 18:09 by JustAnImage »


« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2020, 18:38 »
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From my experience with Envato they are a slimy group. In my opinion you will be ahead if they don't except you. Just my opinion with working with them many years ago... Good Luck

« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2020, 22:06 »
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These days people fly off their handle if rejected, especially artists.

georgep7

« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2020, 03:14 »
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Alternatively, I have send hundrends of CVs in my life.
Never thought or felt bad that many don't answer back.
Their loss as long as I am willing to try hard for a seat to keep.

Envato won't answer back? so what?
Will a "dear JustAnImage, your work is great but we feel it does not fit in our library" make a difference?

You choosed wise your nickname I believe, seems that we all are just an image or video in this vast world of media.

« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2020, 05:24 »
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The only advice I can give you is stay away from Envato Elements if you value your work. I was part of Elements, but withdrawn my images when my images were effectively given away for free after they changed their bonus payments. Withdrawal from Elements was not easy. It took more than four months and many e-mail messages before my images were finally removed.

Brasilnut

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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2020, 05:53 »
+13
They should be applying to us and we tell them if they're good enough. Turds...

« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2020, 06:24 »
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Hey,

i just applied to become a contributor at Envato Elements and after some time of entering data I finally reached a site telling me:

Your Application has been submitted successfully. GoodLuck!
If you are successful you should expect an email from the team - this can take up to 5 weeks
If you are unsuccessful you won't hear from us.
We appreciate your patience!


This must be a joke... are they serious? If i didn't make it, they don't even send a f...ing email?

If I make it there, i will immadiatly close down that account... unbelievable how photographers are treated these days :)

What to expect from an agency that give your work away for peanuts...i wondering how an artist that value his work submit to an agency like this....

« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2020, 06:35 »
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they are very slimy. they may also will doubletax you which is illegal (seems to be on a random per case basis), but they are doing it.

(more specifically - they will withhold 2x the amount - and pocket 1/2 of that under the guise of 'withholding' tax for you).

Hey,

i just applied to become a contributor at Envato Elements and after some time of entering data I finally reached a site telling me:

Your Application has been submitted successfully. GoodLuck!
If you are successful you should expect an email from the team - this can take up to 5 weeks
If you are unsuccessful you won't hear from us.
We appreciate your patience!


This must be a joke... are they serious? If i didn't make it, they don't even send a f...ing email?

If I make it there, i will immadiatly close down that account... unbelievable how photographers are treated these days :)
« Last Edit: May 12, 2020, 06:37 by SuperPhoto »

« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2020, 08:33 »
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Ok, i think I got your messages ;-)

Thanks a lot!

« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2020, 08:36 »
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Envato won't answer back? so what?
Will a "dear JustAnImage, your work is great but we feel it does not fit in our library" make a difference?

You choosed wise your nickname I believe, seems that we all are just an image or video in this vast world of media.
I know i am just 1 out of 100 thousands of people and yes i know, people are treated very badly. But this doesn't mean we all have to accept this without letting other people know.
But well, one little reply (even automated) shouldn't be a problem, just to value someone is applying at your site ;-)
So yes, even a "your work is crap, we won't take you" would make big difference imo.


« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2020, 23:48 »
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Hello,



If you have any thoughts on words we can use or ways we can share news like this with compassion and empathy, I'd welcome that input. It's never easy to receive a no and if we can do it in a way that encourages people to keep going, that would be my preference.

Thanks again for calling this out and letting us know how you feel and how we can do better.

James.

Here's an idea James how about you pay decent rates for the "high quality" work on elements instead of the pennies and zero amounts you guys current pay out?

Don't come here with woke keywords when envato can't pay for a contributors efforts

« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2020, 00:40 »
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I have positive experience with Elements on income basis and with the team communication. On average the monthly income from one contributed image in Elements is times higher than on the other big agencies.
I know the MSG became place for negative comments on all aspects, but in this case my experience is positive and for sure I can recommend Elements.

« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2020, 15:35 »
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Hello,

My name is James and I work at Envato. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree, it's not the best approach. As others have pointed out, there are different perspectives on how to conclude a portfolio review that leads to a no. We've had an internal debate about it (with people presenting thoughts just like what people have presented here) and ultimately we agree that not responding isn't how we want to move forward.

While we've tried to make it clear what the process is, we want people to know just how things are going and when we've finished our evaluation. We've begun work on changing the way the application process works and how it connects with all our systems (not as easy as writing an email unfortunately) and I expect we'll have an updated process to be launched very soon.

If you have any thoughts on words we can use or ways we can share news like this with compassion and empathy, I'd welcome that input. It's never easy to receive a no and if we can do it in a way that encourages people to keep going, that would be my preference.

Thanks again for calling this out and letting us know how you feel and how we can do better.

James.
Hello James,

thanks for answering in here!
I don't really care about being rejected at a site, because this is just how the world is - but what I care about is how this is done.

If a website tells be right after applying as a contributor "If you are unsuccessful you won't hear from us.", I would delete my account right away, after I would have made it through the review. Thats just not the way partners do any business.

So, thanks for your words and I will give a thumbs up, after you have changed your process.
Until I get that answer, to say it in your companies words: "We appreciate your patience!"

Best regards

Edit: And sorry for my english, it's not my first language ;-)

« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2020, 17:10 »
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That was really a crappy way to introduce themselves and invite you. Having said that, I have a higher return per image with elements than with any other stock site. Can't complain about that aspect anyway.

georgep7

« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2020, 01:23 »
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2020, 04:10 »
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Having said that, I have a higher return per image with elements than with any other stock site. Can't complain about that aspect anyway.

What changed? When I left Elements my RPD without the bonus was $0.03 and after the bonus $0.11 - selling images only, no other media type.  This was month after month.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2020, 04:12 by Eco »

« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2020, 06:27 »
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Having said that, I have a higher return per image with elements than with any other stock site. Can't complain about that aspect anyway.

What changed? When I left Elements my RPD without the bonus was $0.03 and after the bonus $0.11 - selling images only, no other media type.  This was month after month.
Not sure why your experience was so bad. Im doing images only also. My return per image per month is about .5. Not sure about per down load.

« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2020, 07:13 »
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Thanks @georgep7 for the screenshot!

At least a text has been added, but nothing is changed so far - until now, just 'promises'  ;)



 

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