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Photodune, Thoughts?

Started by Leo Blanchette, November 08, 2011, 21:06

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luissantos84

#100
hi there, I agree the mr system is quite bad.. but if you havent figured it out I would love to explain you how to, take a look below

using ftp
1. upload releases into model release folder, I am uploading only the MR's regarding the specific photoshoot (one session at the time, not that I have many people pics)
2. then on the previous folder upload the pictures regarding that photoshoot
3. process button in dashboard after upload

if the process went "wrong" for any reason the pictures will be rejected for no mr

if you follow this you won't have an issue, the ones you have rejected because of no mr just don't care, upload them again

stockastic

Hi all, I looked through this thread but I'm still not getting the picture.  My portfolio is small, but I nevertheless don't have time to jump through hoops for a small number of sales.

I'm only interested in a new site if it uses the IPTC data and requires very few clicks per image..  If a new site limits the number of keywords, or forces me to remove all the plurals, or enter new titles etc. - forget it, for now at least.

Could someone who's currently submitting batches help me cut to the chase by summarizing the requirements?  How streamlined is it, really?

luissantos84

regarding MR I have talked about that minutes ago..

non required MR it is a lot faster, just ftp them and process button on dashboard

then select 20 pics at each time and submit, pictures that don't have some iptc you will need to enter it, the max keywords is 50 and no numbers allowed

stockastic

Quote from: luissantos84 on December 03, 2011, 18:29
regarding MR I have talked about that minutes ago..

non required MR it is a lot faster, just ftp them and process button on dashboard

then select 20 pics at each time and submit, pictures that don't have some iptc you will need to enter it, the max keywords is 50 and no numbers allowed

Thanks.  I don't shoot people so I have no MRs.   50 keywords might be a problem.  Does the site issue a clear warning when you have more than 50 and give you a chance to edit the list?

luissantos84

Quote from: stockastic on December 03, 2011, 18:35
Quote from: luissantos84 on December 03, 2011, 18:29
regarding MR I have talked about that minutes ago..

non required MR it is a lot faster, just ftp them and process button on dashboard

then select 20 pics at each time and submit, pictures that don't have some iptc you will need to enter it, the max keywords is 50 and no numbers allowed

Thanks.  I don't shoot people so I have no MRs.   50 keywords might be a problem.  Does the site issue a clear warning when you have more than 50 and give you a chance to edit the list?

after the process button you have two sections, files ready to submit and other with files that need modifications

RacePhoto

Yes, originally my thought was, WHO?

Now I'm turning around to, when they get the system fixed and I can upload without a special degree in Doing Dune, I'll drop the collection on them.

Someone please write when the site works. In fact you may want to write when SS works and doesn't lose images, or duplicate everything new and when IS works and doesn't lose sales. LOL

These places are supposed to be businesses and they can't make the uploads, sales or website searches work. M-I-C K-E-Y...  ???

stockastic

#106
Quote from: RacePhoto on December 03, 2011, 19:09
... when they get the system fixed and I can upload without a special degree in Doing Dune, I'll drop the collection on them.

What did you encounter that was a hassle?

I think a lot of sites are just losing sight of the big picture.  The current tiny (and shrinking) returns just don't justify any time spent on the mechanics of submitting.  

Phil

#107
Quote from: Sion on November 26, 2011, 07:55
Quote from: AttilaTheNun on November 26, 2011, 07:44
Quote from: Sion on November 25, 2011, 23:34My latest record is one and half week still waiting...
Does Australia have a long Thanksgiving weekend too, eating stuffed Kangaroos?

Can't work how Photodune operates. Didn't get an acknowledgement for the application.

I've heard kangaroos are an endangered species in Australia as they export too many of them to northern atmosphere for Thanksgiving dinner. Turkeys are unaffordable now with the debt crisis there.

lol, plenty of places they are a pest species (at least eastern greys) like rabbits :) mostly used for pet food when bothered with. Unique, strong flavoured meat that can be nice but doesnt take up other flavours well.

MicrostockExp

Luis you do not capitalize the title? it is one of the requirement to upload

luissantos84

Quote from: MicrostockExp on December 04, 2011, 02:00
Luis you do not capitalize the title? it is one of the requirement to upload

yes I do, I have it on IPTC, my only prob was with MRs but a few weeks ago I managed to learn it lol

MicrostockExp

I see it is not much work, but it takes some time as we have to capitalize the old pictures one by one in the dashboard, hope it is worth it :D

luissantos84

Quote from: MicrostockExp on December 04, 2011, 02:33
I see it is not much work, but it takes some time as we have to capitalize the old pictures one by one in the dashboard, hope it is worth it :D

I haven't done that once mine were ready already but I can tell you they are worth, you will see

MicrostockExp

ok I ll see, I registered with your link btw:)
Not sure about tax forms, they did not communicate on that....

luissantos84

Quote from: MicrostockExp on December 04, 2011, 02:47
ok I ll see, I registered with your link btw:)
Not sure about tax forms, they did not communicate on that....

yep nothing about that

stockastic

#114
Capitalize all the titles?

Fuggedaboudit.

Look if a site wants that for some reason, they can easily do it in code - I'm not going to key that all in.

Sion

#115
I didn't know how the kangaroo jokes got started here.

I chanced upon an info on the net that Envato was started out in Australia. I watched the video interview of the founders who had said many things that resonated with my humble experience as a lone stock photo producer.

I've been uploading to Photodune the maximum files allowed for the past several days. I have a great vibe about the site. Most probably will be finishing uploading my 12,000 photos to it before the end of next week. I believe in getting in early and dominate my niche first. Fortunately I only shoot royalty free with no requirement for model release for microstock.

We had a few great traditional Australian stock agencies in the past. Hope that Photodune will do well for us too.

I'm not related to Photodune. This is just an Australian supporting a global Australian company.

gaja

Why on earth do they want capitalized titles? Is there any logic behind that?

stockastic

Quote from: gaja on December 04, 2011, 11:47
Why on earth do they want capitalized titles? Is there any logic behind that?

I believe they just think it looks nice.   

I'm a programmer.  This is maybe 2 lines of code we're talking about, versus demanding that your contributors re-key everything. 

Is this really a requirement?

Jo Ann Snover


stockastic

#119
Just tried submitting 8 photos for portfolio approval.  I click "upload" and get a file dialog; select my photos; wait while they're uploaded.  Then nothing happens.  I notice a checkbox for "this work is entirely my own" and check it.  Nothing happens.  There's another Upload button at the bottom; I click it, get a message that I must select my porfolio from the list.  Huh?  I open the Portfolio dropdown, and there's a list of my uploaded JPGs.  I select one, click Upload again and am told I didn't select a .zip file.   I was supposed to put my photos in a .zip?  But it let me upload 8 jpgs.   Are we supposed to .zip everytime we submit?

[update]

I removed all the JPGs I'd just uploaded, put them all in a .zip and uploaded it.  After the transfer completed, I clicked the "other" Upload at the bottom of the page, and got a long hourglass, but then I went on to the next page and completed the application.  I think.

Apparently the "other" Upload button is mislabelled, it should be "Submit" or something like that.  And there seems to be no reason for the UI that supports multiple file uploads if all they want is a single .zip of your .JPGs.

YadaYadaYada

Quote from: stockastic on December 04, 2011, 19:22
Just tried submitting 8 photos for portfolio approval.  I click "upload" and get a file dialog; select my photos; wait while they're uploaded.  Then nothing happens.  I notice a checkbox for "this work is entirely my own" and check it.  Nothing happens.  There's another Upload button at the bottom; I click it, get a message that I must select my porfolio from the list.  Huh?  I open the Portfolio dropdown, and there's a list of my uploaded JPGs.  I select one, click Upload again and am told I didn't select a .zip file.   I was supposed to put my photos in a .zip?  But it let me upload 8 jpgs.   Are we supposed to .zip everytime we submit?

[update]

I removed all the JPGs I'd just uploaded, put them all in a .zip and uploaded it.  After the transfer completed, I clicked the "other" Upload at the bottom of the page, and got a long hourglass, but then I went on to the next page and completed the application.  I think.

Apparently the "other" Upload button is mislabelled, it should be "Submit" or something like that.  And there seems to be no reason for the UI that supports multiple file uploads if all they want is a single .zip of your .JPGs.

Answered your own question didn''t you.

Quote from: stockastic on December 03, 2011, 19:16
Quote from: RacePhoto on December 03, 2011, 19:09
... when they get the system fixed and I can upload without a special degree in Doing Dune, I'll drop the collection on them.

What did you encounter that was a hassle?

I think a lot of sites are just losing sight of the big picture.  The current tiny (and shrinking) returns just don't justify any time spent on the mechanics of submitting.  
Take your content and go. - Jon Oringer.

pancaketom

I think the zip stuff is a legacy of some of the other items that envato sells. It really doesn't make sense for images. Luckily it seems we only have to do it for the initial submission. I have a number of images in the queue with and without capitalized titles, so we shall see how that goes. It would be a pain to have to change them all to capitals. I would think that would be something they could do easily with a script if they really wanted it.
We get it ... -snip- ... we are lazy, incompetent, greedy or uncaring. Rebecca Rockafellar for Istock HQ

Sion

#122
For FTP uploading I like to see at least 20 or more "items submitted for review" instead of 5 as you need to do 200 clicks if you are submitting the maximum files allowed.

I also like to see "Delete" relegated to somewhere and with a confirm prompt as I click too fast and have 10 photos accidentally deleted.

All in all uploading has been a breeze once you overcome the quirky initial application process.

stockastic

I got approved pretty quick, but the submission process is making me feel like a head injury victim.

I go to a page entitled "Upload an Photo File" [sic].   There's a 'Name' field which has to be filled in.  But I'm supposed to upload a zip of multiple photos, right?    So what's the 'name'?   Then I'm to choose a "main file" and then click a button labelled "create item submission".

None of this is making any sense.  Is this a form for submitting one photo, or a zip of multiple photos?

lbarn

#124
I use FTP with filezilla. After upload goto their page, click button to process images, after a few minutes click view all, then submit.  Without model releases, its fairly painless.  Make sure you set filezilla (or other FTP program) to upload to bulk_import/photos, otherwise they just disappear.

lee