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Agency Based Discussion => Envato => Topic started by: Leo Blanchette on November 08, 2011, 16:06
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I'm thinking of submitting to photodune. I'd love to hear people's opinions so I know if its worth my time. I see its part of a big network of template/content sites. Cool!
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I would. In fact, I did. Their royalty percentage is on the low side, but they bring in sales. In just a few months I've reached a point where I can expect a payout every month. No other new site has done nearly as well. I'd also mention that I find their staff to be both friendly and responsive, which is something else I can't say about most other firms. So if you aren't fixated on the percentage you get but care more about absolute dollars, give them a try.
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I'm thinking of submitting to photodune. I'd love to hear people's opinions so I know if its worth my time. I see its part of a big network of template/content sites. Cool!
If you are going to upload illustrations - PhotoDune doesn't accept them. They will let you know that you need to upload them to Graphic River. I tried - but uploading to GR is so complicated that it would take a year for me to upload there all my vectors.
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Thanks. As an illustrator I might hold off then
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But, story about possible changes in commission levels for independents is still active, or not?
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Well I may be completely and utterly biased, but I think PhotoDune is awesome ;D
But on a serious note, our GraphicRiver upload process is still our old uploading system. When we built PhotoDune this year we built in several platform upgrades which we are now rolling out across the other sites. Specifically it has a different review queue, search engine and upload system. So little by little we are transitioning the other sites over now.
In that sense PhotoDune has been immensely good for us as it's been teaching the company about scale of content. In many of our other areas - e.g. themes - it's impressive to have say 1300 WordPress themes. That makes us the biggest collection of WP themes online as far as I know. But of course 1300 photos is not so impressive :)
Anyhow I will definitely post back here when the GR uploading system is transitioned over!
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I was very enthusiastic about joining this site, however, I have found the whole uploading process to be a pain in the ****!
After trying a number of times, I eventually uploaded my 10 samples the way they wanted them to be uploaded, and I got accepted as a contributor.
I then went ahead and uploaded 1000 images using the FTP method, however, after two days, all of these images have disappeared from the site.
I find this to be totally frustrating and a plain waste of time!
I sent an e-mail to the site notifying them that I had uploaded 1000 images, expressing my concern that the images may go 'missing' ....like my 10 sample images had on three occasions, however, two days later I have not had a reply, and in the meantime, the 1000 images have gone 'missing'.
I upload to 15 other sites, and I've never had this problem before.
Either I'm a complete idiot, and I'm not uploading the images correctly, or the site is not like the other 15 sites that I upload to, and it needs to be!!!
All I want to do is get my 2000 images on to the site, and start achieving sales!
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Well I may be completely and utterly biased, but I think PhotoDune is awesome ;D
But on a serious note, our GraphicRiver upload process is still our old uploading system. When we built PhotoDune this year we built in several platform upgrades which we are now rolling out across the other sites. Specifically it has a different review queue, search engine and upload system. So little by little we are transitioning the other sites over now.
In that sense PhotoDune has been immensely good for us as it's been teaching the company about scale of content. In many of our other areas - e.g. themes - it's impressive to have say 1300 WordPress themes. That makes us the biggest collection of WP themes online as far as I know. But of course 1300 photos is not so impressive :)
Anyhow I will definitely post back here when the GR uploading system is transitioned over!
Thanks! I'll definitely jump right on uploading when its ready. On that note, the more you can simplify the process (like Crestock or 123rf) the easier it is for guys like me to get everything up and ready to sell! My biggest weakness in this business has been how fatiguing redundant tasks can be on my brain!
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. Either I'm a complete idiot, and I'm not uploading the images correctly,
There may be more than one of us here. I have to keep re-uploading model releases.
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I also gave up trying to get it to upload correctly. I may have another go some time but got so frustrated with it that I decided to leave it for a while.
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Howdy everyone,
Drew here from Envato Support. I sincerely apologize if there have been some issues uploading recently. We have/are experiencing some network issues causing backlogs and a few problems with FTP bulk submissions. We think that we've got most of it ironed out now, but we're still trying to process a lot of the backlogged submissions. Again, I do apologize and hope that you'll stick with us while we get everything worked out.
If you'd like to keep up with updates from the PhotoDune development team, you can do so here - http://photodune.net/forums/thread/bulk-ftp-submissions-issues-being-worked-on/53609 (http://photodune.net/forums/thread/bulk-ftp-submissions-issues-being-worked-on/53609)
I'll also do my best to keep an eye on this and other threads regarding submission issues, but I do encourage you to drop by our forums with any feedback, issues, or suggestions you may have. We're always open to feedback and we'd love to have you as part of our community :)
Thanks everyone, have a nice day/evening wherever you may be! :)
-Drew
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I'm uploading for the second time (and last) my first 10 pictures, if you could take a look today it's ok, i can send some pictures before my departure. If not, i give up too, it's really a slave pain to upload there and be accepted, the 25% low commission on very low prices and ridiculous EL prices don't help to be really enthusiast. ???
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Are you uploading via FTP?
I have had no issues with application and uploading via FTP this morning, all went very fast and smooth.
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photodune please ask your colleague from...maybe the secretary or someone who is not a software developer and do a trial uploading in front of the interface designer, then you will realize what is wrong, i am sure he or she will ask then what is next, what should i do later..where it has gone..blah blah.. everything is there, but is not user friendly...
i like canstock, you don't need to click many pages and go around different pages... everything in one page..you see every keywords, title..and just one click u submit everything.
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photodune please ask your colleague from...maybe the secretary or someone who is not a software developer and do a trial uploading in front of the interface designer, then you will realize what is wrong, i am sure he or she will ask then what is next, what should i do later..where it has gone..blah blah.. everything is there, but is not user friendly...
i like canstock, you don't need to click many pages and go around different pages... everything in one page..you see every keywords, title..and just one click u submit everything.
first, there is a 'name' column need to be filled for every files, IPTC title is not picked up by this 'name', and there is no thumbnail preview but just filename.
second, it is quite meaningless 'create item submission' and it brings me to next screen and the images is not there..it seems to take time to get processed from ftp..why not make it a one button click to process everything? do i need to repeat something that is repeated?
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When using ftp you have to make sure you drop it in the "photo" folder or they won't be processed as a batch when importing on the PhotoDune site. Made that mistake myself and found it easier to delete and start over. Luckily I discovered that wrinkle in the process with a small batch. :-/
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G'day everyone :D
Thanks for all of your thoughts and feedback, I'm browsing the forums and making a note of all of them. I've just checked with the devs and we believe we're at the tail end of the bulk FTP submission issues, we're still processing some backlogged files, so I really do appreciate your patience and appreciate those of you interested in giving us a chance. We really do care about your feedback and as I've said I'm making a note of all of it :)
Thanks so much, hope you're all enjoying your day ;)
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My feedback is 25% is too low.
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My feedback is 25% is too low.
+1 especially EL licenses, I am holding my uploads because of that
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My feedback is 25% is too low.
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G'day everyone :D
Thanks for all of your thoughts and feedback, I'm browsing the forums and making a note of all of them. I've just checked with the devs and we believe we're at the tail end of the bulk FTP submission issues, we're still processing some backlogged files, so I really do appreciate your patience and appreciate those of you interested in giving us a chance. We really do care about your feedback and as I've said I'm making a note of all of it :)
Thanks so much, hope you're all enjoying your day ;)
Please, some folks from the development, search your camera backup and find 2-3 nice photos. Doesn't matter what. Please subscribe to several well-known agencies and submit your photos. You may upload model releases also.
Please focus on the upload system, how easy, simple and clear it is everything. Don't mind if your photos get rejected, this isn't part of the test.
I must say, even the IS's archaic upload system is far better than at PD.
You may also introduce some levels for photographers, let's say, if someone reaches x downloads, he will receive more than 25%.
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I have to agree that the upload process is clunky at best. Why do we have to manually enter the name again? Why do we have to wait and come back later to submit?
I also suggest you visit your top tier competition and learn how to do it in a more professional and efficient manner.
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When is GraphicRiver changing over to the new upload system?
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I'm afraid this is just another not-ready-for-prime-time site. If and when the uploading is fixed/streamlined and if and when sales are ever generated there I may take another look.
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I'm afraid this is just another not-ready-for-prime-time site. If and when the uploading is fixed/streamlined and if and when sales are ever generated there I may take another look.
I'd hate to try to convince you when your mind is made up. But I find their upload system to be pretty fast and easy, at least when I combine it with FTP. And as for sales ever being generated, PhotoDune is running third for me this month, well behind Shutterstock and half of 123RF, but ahead of all the other usual suspects. Not bad for a site that generates no sales.
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I'm thinking of submitting to photodune. I'd love to hear people's opinions so I know if its worth my time. I see its part of a big network of template/content sites. Cool!
Speaking as an illustrator....From what I've read in other threads many months ago, their illustration uploading process takes too much time and they are very, very picky. Looking at what they accept and knowing my free-hand rough style, I'd have no chance. However, looking at your style, I think it'd be worth a try (if you can handle the submission process).
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Just wanted to chime in and thank you all for the feedback, positive and constructive, I'm taking notes of all of it and we'll do our best to constantly keep improving. Have a wonderful upcoming weekend everyone! :)
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G'day everyone :D
Thanks for all of your thoughts and feedback, I'm browsing the forums and making a note of all of them. I've just checked with the devs and we believe we're at the tail end of the bulk FTP submission issues, we're still processing some backlogged files, so I really do appreciate your patience and appreciate those of you interested in giving us a chance. We really do care about your feedback and as I've said I'm making a note of all of it :)
Thanks so much, hope you're all enjoying your day ;)
Unless you raise commissions all this is just business blaahhbla....
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I just found out that after you connect to ftp, you should browse to 'bulk import'->'photos'..i think in this case, one doesn't has to move every singles file manually..
I have to agree that the upload process is clunky at best. Why do we have to manually enter the name again? Why do we have to wait and come back later to submit?
I also suggest you visit your top tier competition and learn how to do it in a more professional and efficient manner.
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You may also introduce some levels for photographers, let's say, if someone reaches x downloads, he will receive more than 25%.
I like the idea of introducing levels
this way photographers have a target to aim and keep uploading.
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I just found out that after you connect to ftp, you should browse to 'bulk import'->'photos'..i think in this case, one doesn't has to move every singles file manually..
I have to agree that the upload process is clunky at best. Why do we have to manually enter the name again? Why do we have to wait and come back later to submit?
I also suggest you visit your top tier competition and learn how to do it in a more professional and efficient manner.
I don't use ftp. I submit one at a time, as they are finished, from post processing.
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I am very confused with the Upload system.
I managed to upload via FTP, but the pictures got (soft)rejected because the file name was used as the title. I just can't find a way to change this. If i go to the edit menu, all i can edit is the description and the keywords (tags) or write a comment for the reviewer.
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
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Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)
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Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)
I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123. They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.
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Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)
I understood this, but what happens if i upload a batch with lets say 5 different models. Doesn't it matter which release go's where?
Still didn't manage to figure out how to change the title....
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Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)
I understood this, but what happens if i upload a batch with lets say 5 different models. Doesn't it matter which release go's where?
Still didn't manage to figure out how to change the title....
it doesnīt matter, I guess if they see more people than releases that would be a reject, regarding the title donīt know, better to have it already (IPTC)
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Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)
I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123. They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.
I donīt find it confusing, at 123RF you just upload your pictures, then on the website the releases and attach to them, if you do it after the FTP processing those will be the only pics there which will be easier
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Non exclusives get 25%. I don't understand why so many people are interested to submit. A new site which starts at this level?
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Non exclusives get 25%. I don't understand why so many people are interested to submit. A new site which starts at this level?
sales! that the final answer, despite the low 25%
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Non exclusives get 25%. I don't understand why so many people are interested to submit. A new site which starts at this level?
+1 GraphicRiver has always been the same. Ultra, ultra low paying per sale. Both in terms of percentage and total charged. Fine when it is a bit of a side income and you are selling to their small community who don't buy anywhere else, but now they are stepping up their game we will be starting to eat into our own sales elsewhere, where we will be getting much more per sale.
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Non exclusives get 25%. I don't understand why so many people are interested to submit. A new site which starts at this level?
sales! that the final answer, despite the low 25%
Well, I think you shoot yourself in the leg. As long you are willing to sell your images this cheap you will ultimately get nothing paid at all! If you want to stay in this business you'll have to make choices.
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Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)
I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123. They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.
I donīt find it confusing, at 123RF you just upload your pictures, then on the website the releases and attach to them, if you do it after the FTP processing those will be the only pics there which will be easier
When you process FTP, you have to do that on a completely different page with no navigation buttons to the releases, so you have to type in a whole new URL to get to the release folder, that's what I am talking about.
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Non exclusives get 25%. I don't understand why so many people are interested to submit. A new site which starts at this level?
sales! that the final answer, despite the low 25%
Well, I think you shoot yourself in the leg. As long you are willing to sell your images this cheap you will ultimately get nothing paid at all! If you want to stay in this business you'll have to make choices.
I believe my pictures ainīt doing much of difference actually, all top contributors are there, shall we leave them collect everything? what can we do? leave IS, DT, FT?
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Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)
I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123. They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.
I donīt find it confusing, at 123RF you just upload your pictures, then on the website the releases and attach to them, if you do it after the FTP processing those will be the only pics there which will be easier
When you process FTP, you have to do that on a completely different page with no navigation buttons to the releases, so you have to type in a whole new URL to get to the release folder, that's what I am talking about.
true but I donīt find it difficult or confusing
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Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)
I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123. They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.
I donīt find it confusing, at 123RF you just upload your pictures, then on the website the releases and attach to them, if you do it after the FTP processing those will be the only pics there which will be easier
When you process FTP, you have to do that on a completely different page with no navigation buttons to the releases, so you have to type in a whole new URL to get to the release folder, that's what I am talking about.
true but I donīt find it difficult or confusing
It's not difficult or confusing, just unproductive and EASILY FIXABLE.
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Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)
I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123. They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.
I donīt find it confusing, at 123RF you just upload your pictures, then on the website the releases and attach to them, if you do it after the FTP processing those will be the only pics there which will be easier
When you process FTP, you have to do that on a completely different page with no navigation buttons to the releases, so you have to type in a whole new URL to get to the release folder, that's what I am talking about.
true but I donīt find it difficult or confusing
It's not difficult or confusing, just unproductive and EASILY FIXABLE. As often as I bring this up, Alex or some other admin 123 chimes in here and tells me how wrong I am or how I am not getting it. All you've done is confirm what I have been saying. A little nav button and all is cool.
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I'm thinking of submitting to photodune. I'd love to hear people's opinions so I know if its worth my time. I see its part of a big network of template/content sites. Cool!
Ask again in three months. Right now its the hot site people with big numbers are joining Let it settle and have more people join.
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Has anyone submitted images with titles that are not caps for the first letter of each word? I would also wonder what happens if I have more than 30 keywords. Does it kick the image back to me or truncate the first 30? I can tell you, if the title thing is a stickler, I am not going back to change 3,000 image titles. My titles are like: Cup of hot chocolate, not Cup Of Hot Chocolate. I don't actually have any shots of hot chocolate but just sayin.
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I'm afraid this is just another not-ready-for-prime-time site. If and when the uploading is fixed/streamlined and if and when sales are ever generated there I may take another look.
I'd hate to try to convince you when your mind is made up. But I find their upload system to be pretty fast and easy, at least when I combine it with FTP. And as for sales ever being generated, PhotoDune is running third for me this month, well behind Shutterstock and half of 123RF, but ahead of all the other usual suspects. Not bad for a site that generates no sales.
I have to agree with Disorderly, Photodune is a very fast and easy upload with fast reviews the next day. I just joined mid-October and finished uploading my(small)portfolio last week. Sales came right away and I now have sales daily.The one problem I did noticed was that they don't recognize commas in the description field when uploading so they will not go through in the FTP uploader.
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I just joined mid-October and finished uploading my(small)portfolio last week. Sales came right away and I now have sales daily.
Your images are extremely high commercial value (which is great). So if u uploaded 1000 to 2000 images I'm not surprised. I don't get why you want to accept $2 to $14 for extended license sales. If you deactivated the extended license option and someone needed an extended license, they would be forced to buy it elsewhere and on any other agency you will get more.
Granted, the buyer may simply choose to license another image on PD, but there will be those who specifically want your images, and buyers know about other sites and they know how to search in Google. If buyers who know you from other sites, know you (and others) sell ELs this low, well they may just open an account at PD and again you would have lost money.
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Has anyone submitted images with titles that are not caps for the first letter of each word? I would also wonder what happens if I have more than 30 keywords. Does it kick the image back to me or truncate the first 30? I can tell you, if the title thing is a stickler, I am not going back to change 3,000 image titles. My titles are like: Cup of hot chocolate, not Cup Of Hot Chocolate. I don't actually have any shots of hot chocolate but just sayin.
My titles are like yours (First letter capitalised only), and were accepted. The same for keywords: I had pictures accepted with up to at least 40 keywords, they don't even truncate the first 30. They don't accept numbers in keywords though.
Looks more like a guideline than a rule.
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Has anyone submitted images with titles that are not caps for the first letter of each word? I would also wonder what happens if I have more than 30 keywords. Does it kick the image back to me or truncate the first 30? I can tell you, if the title thing is a stickler, I am not going back to change 3,000 image titles. My titles are like: Cup of hot chocolate, not Cup Of Hot Chocolate. I don't actually have any shots of hot chocolate but just sayin.
My titles are like yours (First letter capitalised only), and were accepted. The same for keywords: I had pictures accepted with up to at least 40 keywords, they don't even truncate the first 30. They don't accept numbers in keywords though.
Looks more like a guideline than a rule.
Thank you. Appreciate the feedback.
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I am very confused with the Upload system.
I managed to upload via FTP, but the pictures got (soft)rejected because the file name was used as the title. I just can't find a way to change this. If i go to the edit menu, all i can edit is the description and the keywords (tags) or write a comment for the reviewer.
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???
Hey Dan,
Can you let me know your PhotoDune username? I'll have a reviewer take a look at your issue.
Regarding model releases, when you upload your photos via FTP into the photos folder, you simply upload any model releases needed for those photos into the model_releases folder for that batch. That's all there is to it, no need to select and assign them afterwards etc :)
-Drew
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How soon you get to know the results of your application after uploading the first 5 files?
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I yielded to Lisas Theorem : don't leave money on the table (since tomorrow might never come).
I uploaded 10 but after a while I got error 500 on their server. I hope they won't be like Veer that can't handle slow uploads from poor people in the third world. :o
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I yielded to Lisas Theorem : don't leave money on the table (since tomorrow might never come).
I uploaded 10 but after a while I got error 500 on their server. I hope they won't be like Veer that can't handle slow uploads from poor people in the third world. :o
Oh boy, I have a theorem now?!
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How soon you get to know the results of your application after uploading the first 5 files?
Hey Sion,
Reviews can take up to 3-4 days max :) Portfolio reviews to be accepted as a contributor are generally even quicker, usually 24 hours or less :)
-Drew
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Portfolio reviews to be accepted as a contributor are generally even quicker, usually 24 hours or less :)
Less ;)
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Regarding model releases, when you upload your photos via FTP into the photos folder, you simply upload any model releases needed for those photos into the model_releases folder for that batch. That's all there is to it, no need to select and assign them afterwards etc :)
This sounds like a very cumbersome procedure and I sent you a PM about it.
(deleted - upload works great, except for the releases)
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Gonna send first sub today ::)
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Ill check it out.
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How soon you get to know the results of your application after uploading the first 5 files?
Hey Sion,
Reviews can take up to 3-4 days max :) Portfolio reviews to be accepted as a contributor are generally even quicker, usually 24 hours or less :)
-Drew
My latest record is one and half week still waiting........
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My latest record is one and half week still waiting...
Does Australia have a long Thanksgiving weekend too, eating stuffed Kangaroos?
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My latest record is one and half week still waiting...
Does Australia have a long Thanksgiving weekend too, eating stuffed Kangaroos?
Can't work how Photodune operates. Didn't get an acknowledgement for the application.
I've heard kangaroos are an endangered species in Australia as they export too many of them to northern atmosphere for Thanksgiving dinner. Turkeys are unaffordable now with the debt crisis there.
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My latest record is one and half week still waiting...
Does Australia have a long Thanksgiving weekend too, eating stuffed Kangaroos?
Can't work how Photodune operates. Didn't get an acknowledgement for the application.
I've heard kangaroos are an endangered species in Australia as they export too many of them to northern atmosphere for Thanksgiving dinner. Turkeys are unaffordable now with the debt crisis there.
There are many different types of kangaroos and wallabies. Some are endangered others relatively plentiful.
You can buy kangaroo at the supermarket. You can get Crocodile and emu from speciality suppliers.
No thanksgiving isn't celebrated in Australia.
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You can buy kangaroo at the supermarket.
I've spent in all duration around 14 months in Oz, 5 of the cities and lots in between. A while back though. I tried Kangaroo but I can't remember what it was like, which may mean that I didn't think much of it. I do remember the meat being so cheap there and of good quality. However, I hear that prices aren't so cheap now.
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You can buy kangaroo at the supermarket.
I've spent in all duration around 14 months in Oz, 5 of the cities and lots in between. A while back though. I tried Kangaroo but I can't remember what it was like, which may mean that I didn't think much of it. I do remember the meat being so cheap there and of good quality. However, I hear that prices aren't so cheap now.
Kangaroo's nothing special, low fat content to hard to cook.
Prices have been going up but I think the majority of the price rise you'd be talking about would be Australian dollar related.
10 years ago the Pound was 33p to Australia Dollar and the US was 50cents. Now its like double those rates. Cheaper for Australian's going to the US or UK but more expensive the other way.
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I have been uploading to Photodune. I would agree with what others have said that having to retype the title is a pain, but I am getting through it. I have been pleased to have two sales right away (only for 25c each, but it is a start), so I feel optimistic for the future with them. Has anyone managed to link Lightburner to Photodune to automate the uploading process?
Cheers
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I have 101 images on Photo dune and I just got my first sale! I started uploading last week...yay!
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Does anyone have any info regarding taxes for Europeans by the way ???
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I had lots of problems uploading at first because I was learning "filezila" at the same time. It is running pretty smooth for me now. I am separating my files by the models and uploading multiple files along with the model release for them. After uploading I go to my dashboard, click the blue upload button (although I have already uploaded by ftp), scroll down a little on the next page and there will be in blue letters xx files pending, I press the process button next to "xx files pending" and wait for results. Easy....Peasy
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How soon you get to know the results of your application after uploading the first 5 files?
Hey Sion,
Reviews can take up to 3-4 days max :) Portfolio reviews to be accepted as a contributor are generally even quicker, usually 24 hours or less :)
-Drew
My latest record is one and half week still waiting........
Hmm, we clear out the portfolio application queue on a daily basis (except for weekends) so this sounds like yours may have been reviewed already or there may be a bug somewhere. If you can email me your marketplace username I'll look into it for you. ( jarel[at]envato.com )
Thanks!
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Has anyone managed to link Lightburner to Photodune to automate the uploading process?
Cheers
Yes, working perfectly.
Create a custom channel
Use your normal username and password
FTP server: ftp.marketplace.envato.com
and don't forget to set up the upload folder: /bulk_import/photos/
You'll still need to import pictures on site, since it's a custom channel.
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Ok, many thanks. I have set it up (and also one for Fotolia which you helped me on in a different thread) but so far I haven't got either to work. I will keep trying... (cancel that - I have both working now :))
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Has anyone managed to link Lightburner to Photodune to automate the uploading process?
Cheers
Yes, working perfectly.
Create a custom channel
Use your normal username and password
FTP server: ftp.marketplace.envato.com
and don't forget to set up the upload folder: /bulk_import/photos/
You'll still need to import pictures on site, since it's a custom channel.
Hi all, I might add that since LightBurner doesn't support model releases, you can simply create another custom channel and set the upload folder to /bulk_import/photos/model_releases/ now you can send all your photos to the /bulk_import/photos/ directory and your MRs to the /bulk_import/photos/model_releases/ directory. When you Process your photos in PhotoDune, the MRs will now be attached to the images.
Good luck!
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hi, i have this problem before when i ftp using filezilla, then i realise i have to ftp to the folder 'bulk import' of photodune..and the iptc will appear okay. I don't understand why photodune doesn't make it the default directory.
I have been uploading to Photodune. I would agree with what others have said that having to retype the title is a pain, but I am getting through it. I have been pleased to have two sales right away (only for 25c each, but it is a start), so I feel optimistic for the future with them. Has anyone managed to link Lightburner to Photodune to automate the uploading process?
Cheers
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I would be interested in joining Photodune as a contributor if not for the fact that I have to create, store, and upload thumbnails. Uploading is a time-consuming process, as we all know, and other sites generate thumbnails automatically. Additionally, since I shoot a lot of beautiful models, I use adjectives such as "beautiful" in my titles quite frequently. I can't imagine that it would be worth my time to change the titles and create my own thumbnails for one web site unless it's generating some record-breaking sales. Or am I missing something?
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I would be interested in joining Photodune as a contributor if not for the fact that I have to create, store, and upload thumbnails. Uploading is a time-consuming process, as we all know, and other sites generate thumbnails automatically. Additionally, since I shoot a lot of beautiful models, I use adjectives such as "beautiful" in my titles quite frequently. I can't imagine that it would be worth my time to change the titles and create my own thumbnails for one web site unless it's generating some record-breaking sales. Or am I missing something?
Don't know about other sites in the Envato marketplace, but for photos uploaded to Photodune you don't have to create thumbnails, which are automatically generated. And I never had a rejection for title.
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I'm just going by the information given at http://photodune.net/wiki/selling/author-selling/author-tutorial/ (http://photodune.net/wiki/selling/author-selling/author-tutorial/):
As a general guide, all items require:
■A Thumbnail: A small thumbnail image to represent the item in search and browse listings.
■A Preview: This might be a graphic, a flash swf, an flv video, or an HTML demo depending on what item type you are uploading.
■A Download File: A main downloadable ZIP complete with help instructions and files for buyer download.
■Extras: Some item types require extra uploads for added preview systems, or other usage. Some items may require help files. Check the upload instructions for details.
■Titles: Item titles should be grammatically correct and capitalize the first letter of each word. (e.g., 30 Fabric Textures) Titles should be descriptive but avoid subjective language (beautiful awesome etc). See our Title guide for more information.
■Tags: Provide helpful tags to help buyers find your file using search. You can add up to 15 tags to an item on all marketplaces except AudioJungle and PhotoDune where we permit 30 tags. See our guide on choosing effective tags.
One of the main technical requirements is that the downloadable ZIP contains files that are as customizable as possible. This may mean keeping all layers in a Photoshop file intact, or providing extensive help documentation for a Flash file, or preparing multiple versions of a video loop. By making files customizable you increase their value to the customer.
... and at http://photodune.net/wiki/selling/upload-instructions/item-title-naming-convention/ (http://photodune.net/wiki/selling/upload-instructions/item-title-naming-convention/):
Bad:
■Beautiful File or The Best Template Do not use subjective words like brilliant, amazing, or best. These words describe your opinion rather than what the file actually is.
Based on this information, I also thought I'd have to package my photos in a zip file - even more time-consuming. Perhaps I am indeed missing something here. I might upload a batch and see what happens.
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I really like that they include the reviewers name in the image acceptance e-mails. Thats yet more transparency from an unusually open and refreshingly straightforward agency. I hope they include these names in rejections e-mails too, so Id know who to be mad at!!!
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The rejections do include the reviewer's name.
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Apart from all the glib. I mean, is it a good site, agency, etc?
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I would be interested in joining Photodune as a contributor if not for the fact that I have to create, store, and upload thumbnails. Uploading is a time-consuming process, as we all know, and other sites generate thumbnails automatically. Additionally, since I shoot a lot of beautiful models, I use adjectives such as "beautiful" in my titles quite frequently. I can't imagine that it would be worth my time to change the titles and create my own thumbnails for one web site unless it's generating some record-breaking sales. Or am I missing something?
@csproductions, hello! I'm sorry for any confusion, I'm afraid some of our Wiki information is heavily slanted to our other maketplaces at the moment... This is however something we are working on.
Let me attempt to clarify a few items.
Thumbnails - In PhotoDune, your thumbnails and preview images will be generated for you. With our other Marketplaces, it was necessary to require authors to provide this due to the nature of content provided. For example, we could not generate dynamically a thumbnail for a Flash file or say a WordPress template.
Titles - Doing a quick search on PhotoDune for "Beautiful" turns up some 2,900 photos with some variation of the word. This one is more of a suggestion than a rule I believe and is intended to provide better SEO for your images. Using more relevant keywords works in your favor. For example, this photo entitled Beautiful woman (http://photodune.net/item/beautiful-woman/579243?WT.ac=category_thumb&WT.seg_1=category_thumb&WT.z_author=zastavkin) may not be as beneficial as say " Woman in Field with Strawberries". But I can see how the use of beautiful or even ugly might be important on PhotoDune.
So to be clear, my guess is you are just fine as you are to begin selling your stock on PhotoDune without a problem :D
Hope that helps!
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I've been with 31 sites since I started RF. To me. The one that has the less bells and whistles gets my 6200 Images. Take a 6 question "Test" why? Zip submission? 25%? Thumbnails? Capitalize certain words? Im sorry But I can't go through all my stuff that has no Problem anywhere else and change stuff for one site. It's just not cost effective for penny stock. If I was starting out? Probably But c-mon Guys. Keep it simple and clean FTP,Then add releases One at a time or hundreds By clicking on the ones that apply. I think sometimes sites get to carried away with OOOO we can do this and that. Clean,Simple and elegant is the way to get anyone you want. trust me.
Just My Opinion.
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Photodune is complicated, confusing and not worth joining! That's the correct conclusion. Yes, please stay away. :-)
BTW. I am submitting my pictures to Photodune as for any other site without any special treatment, but I haven't read the author tutorial ...
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I've been with 31 sites since I started RF. To me. The one that has the less bells and whistles gets my 6200 Images. Take a 6 question "Test" why? Zip submission? 25%? Thumbnails? Capitalize certain words? Im sorry But I can't go through all my stuff that has no Problem anywhere else and change stuff for one site. It's just not cost effective for penny stock. If I was starting out? Probably But c-mon Guys. Keep it simple and clean FTP,Then add releases One at a time or hundreds By clicking on the ones that apply. I think sometimes sites get to carried away with OOOO we can do this and that. Clean,Simple and elegant is the way to get anyone you want. trust me.
Just My Opinion.
Submissions of photos do not require making thumbnails and you don't have to change any titles. The zip file is only for the application photos - everything else can be uploaded via FTP. I don't like the release system much, but as they don't mind taking a batch FTP'd to the photos folder with a collection of releases in the release folder (where some releases don't apply to some of the images) it's actually not as hard as it sounds. The big issue with it is that you can't check if you forgot something by looking at anything on the site.
At any rate, I'm not campaigning, just pointing out that it's the info text that needs updating as it's misleading with respect to stock photos.
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Agree. Clean,Clear and elegant.
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Can someone point me in the direction of the file size requirements? I just had my first image approved there but it appears a full resolution download from my 1D Mark III is only going to be worthy of a "Large" sale at $5.
Is this accurate?
Mat
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Can someone point me in the direction of the file size requirements? I just had my first image approved there but it appears a full resolution download from my 1D Mark III is only going to be worthy of a "Large" sale at $5.
Is this accurate?
Mat
Hi MatHayward! Hopefully this answers your question.
Extra Small
387 x 516 (0.2MP) $1
Small
671 x 894 (0.6MP) $2
Medium
1225 x 1633 (2.0MP) $3
Large
2121 x 2828 (6.0MP) $5
Extra Large
3000 x 4000 (12.0MP) $7
Extra Extra Large
5412 x 7216 (39.1MP) $9
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which needs to be changed soon :D
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That does help Josh thanks.
Unfortunately, it confirms the accuracy of the information. There is no way I can justify selling my photos that low. Every other site places my high-res files in the XL category. I can see the appeal to your plan from a buyers perspective but as a photographer that would be very self-deprecating in my opinion. I was really hesitant about the prices when my assumption was I would be selling extra large files.
Thanks for the opportunity but I am going to respectfully bow out.
All the best,
Mat
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Can someone point me in the direction of the file size requirements? I just had my first image approved there but it appears a full resolution download from my 1D Mark III is only going to be worthy of a "Large" sale at $5.
Is this accurate?
Mat
Hi MatHayward! Hopefully this answers your question.
Extra Small
387 x 516 (0.2MP) $1
Small
671 x 894 (0.6MP) $2
Medium
1225 x 1633 (2.0MP) $3
Large
2121 x 2828 (6.0MP) $5
Extra Large
3000 x 4000 (12.0MP) $7
Extra Extra Large
5412 x 7216 (39.1MP) $9
That is sort of an odd distribution, and the jumps from 6 to 12 and then to 39 MP are rather drastic but without a corresponding drastic increase in price. Perhaps it is based more on the sizes needed for specific uses than on what cameras produce images of those sizes.
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which needs to be changed soon :D
LOL!! Very funny!
There were a few little issues uploading but other than that sales were immediate which is very important for a new site!
I think Photodune is great!! :)
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How's sales at PhotoDune so far this month? We're only 2 days in, but I'm already seeing some increased volume and revenue at Graphic River, partially thanks to the pay increase.
Just wondering if the Photodune folks are seeing improvements also.
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My first photo (which was part of my initial 10 too) got rejected because it would be more suitable on graphicriver - but I was under the impression that was for vector art - although looking at it it appears that they also include vector photo composites.
Has anyone else uploaded straight photos to graphicriver?
you can see the image in question here:
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-fireball-image993876 (http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-fireball-image993876)
I got an e-mail about this image, but I couldn't find this image on the site anywhere - where are the results of image reviews displayed?
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which needs to be changed soon :D
LOL!! Very funny!
There were a few little issues uploading but other than that sales were immediate which is very important for a new site!
I think Photodune is great!! :)
agree!
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My first photo (which was part of my initial 10 too) got rejected because it would be more suitable on graphicriver - but I was under the impression that was for vector art - although looking at it it appears that they also include vector photo composites.
Has anyone else uploaded straight photos to graphicriver?
you can see the image in question here:
[url]http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-fireball-image993876[/url] ([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-fireball-image993876[/url])
I got an e-mail about this image, but I couldn't find this image on the site anywhere - where are the results of image reviews displayed?
Hi pancaketom! This can be a tricky one. Can you tell me, is this file simply a jpeg or is there psd/AI file available? The answer will help me determine where it should reside :)
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My first photo (which was part of my initial 10 too) got rejected because it would be more suitable on graphicriver - but I was under the impression that was for vector art - although looking at it it appears that they also include vector photo composites.
Has anyone else uploaded straight photos to graphicriver?
you can see the image in question here:
[url]http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-fireball-image993876[/url] ([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-fireball-image993876[/url])
I got an e-mail about this image, but I couldn't find this image on the site anywhere - where are the results of image reviews displayed?
Hi pancaketom! This can be a tricky one. Can you tell me, is this file simply a jpeg or is there psd/AI file available? The answer will help me determine where it should reside :)
This file is just a simple jpeg - a slightly photoshopped photo (I made the background truly black and removed a few distracting foreground elements).
edit - maybe it went through the wrong review channels since I think I tried to ftp it before I discovered I had to .zip the first submission (so it didn't go into a sub folder).
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Hi pancaketom, yeah I would try again on PhotoDune. If this was a layered file i'd say Graphic River would be a better fit :)
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I think Photodune is great!! :)
I beg to differ. I had 1/3 rejected because of no model release. And yes I put those in the releases folder. Now they want me to go file by file and click 1000 times to edit/reupload the release on every image. They don't even have batch.
Apart from that, their reviewers seem to be ignorant in the microstock field since they rejected many good sellers elsewhere with a very generic comment. Is it framing, noise, or "standards"? No explanation.
They got the top contributors (no not you Luis) in probably with some assistance as to releases. Now the regulars join, we have to bear with their unpreparedness as to microstock, especially release libraries. I'll just wait for a while uploading and see what they come up with but I won't hold my breath. If they only carry the top image factories and ignore the humble ants at the bottom, a vested microstock site is still much better for a buyer.
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hi there, I agree the mr system is quite bad.. but if you havent figured it out I would love to explain you how to, take a look below
using ftp
1. upload releases into model release folder, I am uploading only the MR's regarding the specific photoshoot (one session at the time, not that I have many people pics)
2. then on the previous folder upload the pictures regarding that photoshoot
3. process button in dashboard after upload
if the process went "wrong" for any reason the pictures will be rejected for no mr
if you follow this you won't have an issue, the ones you have rejected because of no mr just don't care, upload them again
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Hi all, I looked through this thread but I'm still not getting the picture. My portfolio is small, but I nevertheless don't have time to jump through hoops for a small number of sales.
I'm only interested in a new site if it uses the IPTC data and requires very few clicks per image.. If a new site limits the number of keywords, or forces me to remove all the plurals, or enter new titles etc. - forget it, for now at least.
Could someone who's currently submitting batches help me cut to the chase by summarizing the requirements? How streamlined is it, really?
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regarding MR I have talked about that minutes ago..
non required MR it is a lot faster, just ftp them and process button on dashboard
then select 20 pics at each time and submit, pictures that don't have some iptc you will need to enter it, the max keywords is 50 and no numbers allowed
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regarding MR I have talked about that minutes ago..
non required MR it is a lot faster, just ftp them and process button on dashboard
then select 20 pics at each time and submit, pictures that don't have some iptc you will need to enter it, the max keywords is 50 and no numbers allowed
Thanks. I don't shoot people so I have no MRs. 50 keywords might be a problem. Does the site issue a clear warning when you have more than 50 and give you a chance to edit the list?
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regarding MR I have talked about that minutes ago..
non required MR it is a lot faster, just ftp them and process button on dashboard
then select 20 pics at each time and submit, pictures that don't have some iptc you will need to enter it, the max keywords is 50 and no numbers allowed
Thanks. I don't shoot people so I have no MRs. 50 keywords might be a problem. Does the site issue a clear warning when you have more than 50 and give you a chance to edit the list?
after the process button you have two sections, files ready to submit and other with files that need modifications
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Yes, originally my thought was, WHO?
Now I'm turning around to, when they get the system fixed and I can upload without a special degree in Doing Dune, I'll drop the collection on them.
Someone please write when the site works. In fact you may want to write when SS works and doesn't lose images, or duplicate everything new and when IS works and doesn't lose sales. LOL
These places are supposed to be businesses and they can't make the uploads, sales or website searches work. M-I-C K-E-Y... ???
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... when they get the system fixed and I can upload without a special degree in Doing Dune, I'll drop the collection on them.
What did you encounter that was a hassle?
I think a lot of sites are just losing sight of the big picture. The current tiny (and shrinking) returns just don't justify any time spent on the mechanics of submitting.
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My latest record is one and half week still waiting...
Does Australia have a long Thanksgiving weekend too, eating stuffed Kangaroos?
Can't work how Photodune operates. Didn't get an acknowledgement for the application.
I've heard kangaroos are an endangered species in Australia as they export too many of them to northern atmosphere for Thanksgiving dinner. Turkeys are unaffordable now with the debt crisis there.
lol, plenty of places they are a pest species (at least eastern greys) like rabbits :) mostly used for pet food when bothered with. Unique, strong flavoured meat that can be nice but doesnt take up other flavours well.
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Luis you do not capitalize the title? it is one of the requirement to upload
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Luis you do not capitalize the title? it is one of the requirement to upload
yes I do, I have it on IPTC, my only prob was with MRs but a few weeks ago I managed to learn it lol
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I see it is not much work, but it takes some time as we have to capitalize the old pictures one by one in the dashboard, hope it is worth it :D
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I see it is not much work, but it takes some time as we have to capitalize the old pictures one by one in the dashboard, hope it is worth it :D
I haven't done that once mine were ready already but I can tell you they are worth, you will see
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ok I ll see, I registered with your link btw:)
Not sure about tax forms, they did not communicate on that....
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ok I ll see, I registered with your link btw:)
Not sure about tax forms, they did not communicate on that....
yep nothing about that
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Capitalize all the titles?
Fuggedaboudit.
Look if a site wants that for some reason, they can easily do it in code - I'm not going to key that all in.
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I didn't know how the kangaroo jokes got started here.
I chanced upon an info on the net that Envato was started out in Australia. I watched the video interview of the founders who had said many things that resonated with my humble experience as a lone stock photo producer.
I've been uploading to Photodune the maximum files allowed for the past several days. I have a great vibe about the site. Most probably will be finishing uploading my 12,000 photos to it before the end of next week. I believe in getting in early and dominate my niche first. Fortunately I only shoot royalty free with no requirement for model release for microstock.
We had a few great traditional Australian stock agencies in the past. Hope that Photodune will do well for us too.
I'm not related to Photodune. This is just an Australian supporting a global Australian company.
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Why on earth do they want capitalized titles? Is there any logic behind that?
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Why on earth do they want capitalized titles? Is there any logic behind that?
I believe they just think it looks nice.
I'm a programmer. This is maybe 2 lines of code we're talking about, versus demanding that your contributors re-key everything.
Is this really a requirement?
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No, it's not
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Just tried submitting 8 photos for portfolio approval. I click "upload" and get a file dialog; select my photos; wait while they're uploaded. Then nothing happens. I notice a checkbox for "this work is entirely my own" and check it. Nothing happens. There's another Upload button at the bottom; I click it, get a message that I must select my porfolio from the list. Huh? I open the Portfolio dropdown, and there's a list of my uploaded JPGs. I select one, click Upload again and am told I didn't select a .zip file. I was supposed to put my photos in a .zip? But it let me upload 8 jpgs. Are we supposed to .zip everytime we submit?
[update]
I removed all the JPGs I'd just uploaded, put them all in a .zip and uploaded it. After the transfer completed, I clicked the "other" Upload at the bottom of the page, and got a long hourglass, but then I went on to the next page and completed the application. I think.
Apparently the "other" Upload button is mislabelled, it should be "Submit" or something like that. And there seems to be no reason for the UI that supports multiple file uploads if all they want is a single .zip of your .JPGs.
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Just tried submitting 8 photos for portfolio approval. I click "upload" and get a file dialog; select my photos; wait while they're uploaded. Then nothing happens. I notice a checkbox for "this work is entirely my own" and check it. Nothing happens. There's another Upload button at the bottom; I click it, get a message that I must select my porfolio from the list. Huh? I open the Portfolio dropdown, and there's a list of my uploaded JPGs. I select one, click Upload again and am told I didn't select a .zip file. I was supposed to put my photos in a .zip? But it let me upload 8 jpgs. Are we supposed to .zip everytime we submit?
[update]
I removed all the JPGs I'd just uploaded, put them all in a .zip and uploaded it. After the transfer completed, I clicked the "other" Upload at the bottom of the page, and got a long hourglass, but then I went on to the next page and completed the application. I think.
Apparently the "other" Upload button is mislabelled, it should be "Submit" or something like that. And there seems to be no reason for the UI that supports multiple file uploads if all they want is a single .zip of your .JPGs.
Answered your own question didn''t you.
... when they get the system fixed and I can upload without a special degree in Doing Dune, I'll drop the collection on them.
What did you encounter that was a hassle?
I think a lot of sites are just losing sight of the big picture. The current tiny (and shrinking) returns just don't justify any time spent on the mechanics of submitting.
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I think the zip stuff is a legacy of some of the other items that envato sells. It really doesn't make sense for images. Luckily it seems we only have to do it for the initial submission. I have a number of images in the queue with and without capitalized titles, so we shall see how that goes. It would be a pain to have to change them all to capitals. I would think that would be something they could do easily with a script if they really wanted it.
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For FTP uploading I like to see at least 20 or more "items submitted for review" instead of 5 as you need to do 200 clicks if you are submitting the maximum files allowed.
I also like to see "Delete" relegated to somewhere and with a confirm prompt as I click too fast and have 10 photos accidentally deleted.
All in all uploading has been a breeze once you overcome the quirky initial application process.
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I got approved pretty quick, but the submission process is making me feel like a head injury victim.
I go to a page entitled "Upload an Photo File" [sic]. There's a 'Name' field which has to be filled in. But I'm supposed to upload a zip of multiple photos, right? So what's the 'name'? Then I'm to choose a "main file" and then click a button labelled "create item submission".
None of this is making any sense. Is this a form for submitting one photo, or a zip of multiple photos?
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I use FTP with filezilla. After upload goto their page, click button to process images, after a few minutes click view all, then submit. Without model releases, its fairly painless. Make sure you set filezilla (or other FTP program) to upload to bulk_import/photos, otherwise they just disappear.
lee
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I use FTP with filezilla. After upload goto their page, click button to process images, after a few minutes click view all, then submit. Without model releases, its fairly painless. Make sure you set filezilla (or other FTP program) to upload to bulk_import/photos, otherwise they just disappear.
lee
I often find FTP to be a problem due to issues with my ISP, and I'm not submitting large numbers of images so I'd rather use the web form.
Why not just "select files" and "upload" like, well, every other microstock?
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As i'm actually travelling to shoot microstock pictures, I managed to upload some new pictures from internet wifi by using Picworkflow, for all other sites it's working as usual but i really don't understand where to find my uploaded pictures on Photodune!!! I look every pages and don't find my 5 pictures, don't tell me it's gonna be the same painful story again!!!
So where can i find the uploaded pictures???
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Try go to "dashboard" then "upload" then if i remember right it will start processing or ask you to process your ftp items..
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Ok, thank you so much!! The menus on pages are so confuse on this site!!!
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Hello there! I wanted to take a quick moment to try and answer some recurring questions showing up throughout this thread.
IPTC
As to the question regarding IPTC data for PhotoDune, If you are using the manual upload option found under your PhotoDune Dashboard, then all you will need to do is add a title, upload the image, choose the image from the "main" dropdown then click submit. Your image will begin to process, then the resulting page will show with all your IPTC data present.
See here for more info - http://photodune.net/upload/help?type=misc (http://photodune.net/upload/help?type=misc)
Now if you are using our FTP upload option, read this page for more info. Basically, all your IPTC data including the title will be pulled in automatically.
http://photodune.net/wiki/selling/upload-instructions/photodune-ftp-upload/ (http://photodune.net/wiki/selling/upload-instructions/photodune-ftp-upload/)
Keywords
As for Keywords, we ask that you provide a minimum of 15 and a max of 50.
Titles
At PhotoDune We ask that your titles have the first letter of major words capitalized. This is mainly because they look more professional, and is also considered a SEO best practice. Please note, this is really more of a recomendation rather than a rule. You should not have any problem with rejections due to not following this suggestion.
Hopefully this helps a bit. We value your feedback and are working hard to improve the user experience at PhotoDune!
If you have any other questions please let me know.
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So to submit via the web form we'd need to upload just one at a time, and type in the title - but if we submit by FTP the titles come from the IPTC?
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So to submit via the web form we'd need to upload just one at a time, and type in the title - but if we submit by FTP the titles come from the IPTC?
Hi stockastic, that's a great question. So you can actually upload more than one at a time by simply holding down ctrl/command and select as many as you would like and it will upload them all. The problem is though that you can still only submit one at a time for processing so this system is not ideal for someone with many photos. Please note, we are aware that this is not an ideal way of doing things and are working on bettering our system.
So to be clear, ftp is a much better way in in my opinion for sure. Does that help?
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I'm having no problems with PhotoDune for photos but it seems a shame that I can't upload any graphics/illustrations/vectors. I did the test for GraphicRiver but the really low prices and complicated upload procedure totally put me off. There's no motivation to spend hours uploading for much less than I make with other sites.
If there were higher prices and images were easy to upload, like with most of the other sites I use, I'm sure GraphicRiver would get millions of extra images from us. That brings in more buyers and stops them looking elsewhere. I think this needs to be addressed. I'm pleased to see the commission increase but this is another big issue that will hinder the growth of both sites.
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The 5 pictures have uploaded with pickworkflow need a model release, i've not found the possibility to add it, i've found on the ftp a folder named release, put my release inside, but now i can not attach the release with my pictures, why is it so complicated?? Don't you planing to put an option to upload the release when editing pictures?? What can i do now?? I have to upload the pictures again?? So it's not possible to use pickworkflow for released pictures?? ::)
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I'm still not clear about commissions. Previous posts say 25%, but the Photodune site currently seems to say 33%. Just about all of my photos would only be "Large" on Photodune, so 33% of $5 would be $1.65, 25% would be $1.25. Is 33% the right figure.
I guess it's moot because either figure is too low for me, for a site producing only occasional sales.
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I'm still not clear about commissions. Previous posts say 25%, but the Photodune site currently seems to say 33%. Just about all of my photos would only be "Large" on Photodune, so 33% of $5 would be $1.65, 25% would be $1.25. Is 33% the right figure.
I guess it's moot because either figure is too low for me, for a site producing only occasional sales.
It was 25% when they started, but now it is 33%.
See official announcement here:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-non-ex-rate-increase-from-25-to-33/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-non-ex-rate-increase-from-25-to-33/)
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It was 25% when they started, but now it is 33%.
See official announcement here:
[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-non-ex-rate-increase-from-25-to-33/[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-non-ex-rate-increase-from-25-to-33/[/url])
Thanks for the clarification.
So - are we really so eager to undercut new sites like GL, which pays double that amount?
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The 5 pictures have uploaded with pickworkflow need a model release, i've not found the possibility to add it, i've found on the ftp a folder named release, put my release inside, but now i can not attach the release with my pictures, why is it so complicated?? Don't you planing to put an option to upload the release when editing pictures?? What can i do now?? I have to upload the pictures again?? So it's not possible to use pickworkflow for released pictures?? ::)
Hi Smithore! Sorry to hear you are having trouble. I am not familiar with pickworkflow so I may not understand completely understand the issue. If pickworkflow will allow you to add images to the bulk_imports>photos folder and then MRs to the bulk_imports>photos>model_releases folder then you should be fine. Please note however that these must be added at the same time. Currently, the process at PhotoDune is that when you process the images, the model releases that are in the model_releases folder will be attached automatically to the any photo in the bulk_imports>photos folder.
Now, as to adding the MR to a soft rejected image, you simply need to select the image then choose edit. from there you can upload the MR and attach it, then resubmit it for review.
If this doesn't make sense, let me know and I will attempt to explain further :)
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It was 25% when they started, but now it is 33%.
See official announcement here:
[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-non-ex-rate-increase-from-25-to-33/[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-non-ex-rate-increase-from-25-to-33/[/url])
Thanks for the clarification.
So - are we really so eager to undercut new sites like GL, which pays double that amount?
true but there is no comparison between them, I am talking about buyers/sales
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It was 25% when they started, but now it is 33%.
See official announcement here:
[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-non-ex-rate-increase-from-25-to-33/[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-non-ex-rate-increase-from-25-to-33/[/url])
Thanks for the clarification.
So - are we really so eager to undercut new sites like GL, which pays double that amount?
true but there is no comparison between them, I am talking about buyers/sales
It's the amount of money you get in the end, that matters. I'll take the monthly payout and 100+ sales at Photodune over 3 sales / year at GL anytime.
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Don't overlook the 20 cents I've made in 2 years at CC. :-)
I made a payout at GL pretty quickly. But after a great first couple of months, it all but ended. Same thing could happen here - after your photos have made their pass through the "new" page, and too many others have gotten on board.
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Does photodune only take 30 keywords? I know that Graphic River does and it's a big PITA to have to strip out the keywords up to 50. Again, it would really help with time taken to upload if it was in line with the other sites.
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Does photodune only take 30 keywords? I know that Graphic River does and it's a big PITA to have to strip out the keywords up to 50. Again, it would really help with time taken to upload if it was in line with the other sites.
hey microbius,
They actually take 50 but state 30 somewhere on their site. When you have to edit an image due to too many keywords, it makes you take out anything over 50.
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thanks, good to know they've changed it!
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Does photodune only take 30 keywords? I know that Graphic River does and it's a big PITA to have to strip out the keywords up to 50. Again, it would really help with time taken to upload if it was in line with the other sites.
Hi Microbius! Thanks for taking the time to give PhotoDune a chance to sell your photos :) Any keywords beyond 50 will require your attention before proceeding.
Hope that helps!
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@ joshsprague
What's happening with the FTP, I uploaded over 1200 files over the weekend and none of them are showing up in my author dashboard.
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@ joshsprague
What's happening with the FTP, I uploaded over 1200 files over the weekend and none of them are showing up in my author dashboard.
Oh man! Can you give me your PhotoDune username so I can take a look? You are uploading them to the "bulk_import" folder correct?
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@ joshsprague
What's happening with the FTP, I uploaded over 1200 files over the weekend and none of them are showing up in my author dashboard.
Oh man! Can you give me your PhotoDune username so I can take a look? You are uploading them to the "bulk_import" folder correct?
Thanks for getting back - Yes uploaded to bulk import as before, sent you a PM.
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It would be nice if PhotoDune showed numbers of 'views'.
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I only today had my first pics approved, but assumed "clickthroughs" would be views... if its not what is the clickthroughs then?
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I only today had my first pics approved, but assumed "clickthroughs" would be views... if its not what is the clickthroughs then?
Where do you see clickthroughs? I can't find it.
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If you go to your dashboard you see different tabs (profile, portfolio, my settings, etc), click the "earnings" one and there it shows clickthroughs...
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Clickthroughs are in the referral section, so I assume it's some type of referral. It can't be views as I've had sales and it shows 0 clickthroughs for me.
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I only today had my first pics approved, but assumed "clickthroughs" would be views... if its not what is the clickthroughs then?
Where do you see clickthroughs? I can't find it.
Hi all! Here is a link that will hopefully shed some light on things a bit for you :)
http://analytics.envato.com (http://analytics.envato.com)
You will need to use your username to log in and an API key that you can generate under the settings tab of your profile. Hope this is useful!
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The 'analytics' page at first looks just like the 'portfolio' tab, but I see that if you click on a thumbnail you get a report showing 'unique visits' for that image - I assume these are clickthroughs/views ?
The usefulness is limited because you can only view the clickthroughs for one image at a time...
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I uploaded a batch of photos, nagivated successfully through the upload mechanism on the site, but it says a model release has to be in a zipped file. I don't remember how I uploaded the model release for my first batch, and I can't afford the time it would take for me to guess, explore, read, and try something, hoping it works. I can tell you that I've never put a model release in a zipped file. It's less than a megabyte, for cryin' out loud. And since I'm not about to do so for one site, I'm done. I'm out.
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it takes some time to get used to the upload system on photodune, but once you understand the logic it appears to be one of the easiest possible. (still too many clicks but certainly better than many others)
You only need to put release in a zip file if you upload via web interface.
If you upload via FTP you must upload all releases for your batch at once, and you must upload it to Releases folder on FTP server (just normal JPG or PDF files) - that must be done before you press Process button.
then Process, then Show all then submit (several times if you upload more than 25 pictures at once, as Show all only shows 25 photos).
No categories, no editing one by one, no attaching releases one by one.
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I must admit that you're right, MikLav. Kinda convoluted, but once you get the hang of it, it's not so bad, and much better than some. I'm uploading, and if I'm lucky, it will turn out to be a productive site.
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Does photodune only take 30 keywords? I know that Graphic River does and it's a big PITA to have to strip out the keywords up to 50. Again, it would really help with time taken to upload if it was in line with the other sites.
Hi Microbius! Thanks for taking the time to give PhotoDune a chance to sell your photos :) Any keywords beyond 50 will simply be dropped and will not affect your upload.
Hope that helps!
They won't simply be dropped. Your image will go into a "file has a problem" mode and then you have to pick what keywords must be removed, unless something has changed in the last two weeks. There is no counter so I pasted the keywords into word, which counts them for you. Then I copy and paste back into the file, hit submit and voila!
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Does photodune only take 30 keywords? I know that Graphic River does and it's a big PITA to have to strip out the keywords up to 50. Again, it would really help with time taken to upload if it was in line with the other sites.
Hi Microbius! Thanks for taking the time to give PhotoDune a chance to sell your photos :) Any keywords beyond 50 will simply be dropped and will not affect your upload.
Hope that helps!
They won't simply be dropped. Your image will go into a "file has a problem" mode and then you have to pick what keywords must be removed, unless something has changed in the last two weeks. There is no counter so I pasted the keywords into word, which counts them for you. Then I copy and paste back into the file, hit submit and voila!
Yikes! I just did a test and you are correct. So sorry for the misinformation. I will get with the team and see if we can do anything to simplify this.
Thanks!
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photodune (non-exclusive)
Extra Small 387 x 516 (0.2MP) $1
Small 671 x 894 (0.6MP) $2
Medium 1225 x 1633 (2.0MP) $3
Large 2121 x 2828 (6.0MP) $5
Extra Large 3000 x 4000 (12.0MP) $7
Extra Extra Large 5412 x 7216 (39.1MP) $9
istockphoto (regular non-exclusive collection)
XSmall 342 Ũ 351 $2
Small 683 Ũ 703 $5
Medium 1366 Ũ 1406 $10
Large 2185 Ũ 2250 $15
XLarge 3380 Ũ 3479 $20
XXLarge 3963 Ũ 4080 $27
XXXLarge 6440 Ũ 6632 $32
once again the all pricing needs an adjustment, not saying we need IS prices but raise it a bit, we are cutting our legs no?
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Well, I have tried three times to get the initial portfolio uploaded. They insist only in compressed zip-files? and MRs, why is this? nobody else does.
BTW, whats the upload system like? easy or tough?
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Does photodune only take 30 keywords? I know that Graphic River does and it's a big PITA to have to strip out the keywords up to 50. Again, it would really help with time taken to upload if it was in line with the other sites.
Hi Microbius! Thanks for taking the time to give PhotoDune a chance to sell your photos :) Any keywords beyond 50 will simply be dropped and will not affect your upload.
Hope that helps!
They won't simply be dropped. Your image will go into a "file has a problem" mode and then you have to pick what keywords must be removed, unless something has changed in the last two weeks. There is no counter so I pasted the keywords into word, which counts them for you. Then I copy and paste back into the file, hit submit and voila!
Yeah way too much effort with a large portfolio. I will wait to see if they increase the level to 50
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Does photodune only take 30 keywords? I know that Graphic River does and it's a big PITA to have to strip out the keywords up to 50. Again, it would really help with time taken to upload if it was in line with the other sites.
Hi Microbius! Thanks for taking the time to give PhotoDune a chance to sell your photos :) Any keywords beyond 50 will simply be dropped and will not affect your upload.
Hope that helps!
They won't simply be dropped. Your image will go into a "file has a problem" mode and then you have to pick what keywords must be removed, unless something has changed in the last two weeks. There is no counter so I pasted the keywords into word, which counts them for you. Then I copy and paste back into the file, hit submit and voila!
Yeah way too much effort with a large portfolio. I will wait to see if they increase the level to 50
Hi! havent been able to upload any zips as yet but what happens if you got a port of say around 2000 files? is it too much hassle or what? :)
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Hi! havent been able to upload any zips as yet but what happens if you got a port of say around 2000 files? is it too much hassle or what? :)
Don't do what I did and upload them all at once by FTP, I tried that to my cost, their server deletes any files that haven't been 'processed' within 24hrs of uploading, (they've now added that info to the upload page!) which in my case meant the files had been deleted before the upload of all the files completed.
My advice is do them in batches of 200 or so. They will take large collections via a HD but personally it was easier just to do them in batches.
One PITA is the 50 keywords thing, their system doesn't delete duplicates (i.e. if you keyword 'one man' 'man only' 'business man' etc whereas other sites count the phrase as one keyword theirs doesn't) and it doesn't tell you how many keywords there are so you have to guess.
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The zip file is a pain, but it's only for the initial approval. FTP for everything else and a reasonable system (not great, but workable) for MR and PR: you need to FTP all the releases for a given FTP batch into a Model Releases sub-folder, then the files themselves in the parent directory. They are fine when you have a mix of files, not all of which need all the releases.
Some of the keyword pains have already been mentioned - that you don't get a count of how much you're over by if you're over 50 by their count. I say by their count because I had a file with 48 keywords (counted by SS's upload process), but some of the keywords were multi-word ones. PD counts words, not comma-separated items, so it complained I was over 50. I just deleted some of the less important keywords until it was happy. In this case it was a composite with a grungy window with four season views - sometimes you need a lot of keywords depending on what's in the image.
The other keyword pain is that it won't accept certain punctuation or numbers by themselves. I have some older images with 50 as a keyword - newer ones I have 50s and fifties. I had over a hundred in one batch where I had to edit one by one - there's no batch editing (someone from PD should sit over the shoulder of a SS contributor to see how this should be done).
I would definitely give PD a try. They're making an effort to improve things; the site is bringing in regular sales and in spite of the relatively low prices (I have opted out of extended licenses as I think their pricing on that is way out of line) my return per download is $1 (give or take a few cents either way). That's higher than DT (although the volume of sales right now is lower)
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There upload and submission process is pretty simple compared to many...the only way it could be made simpler is if they duplicated the Description in the Title field...giving people the option to change it if they so desire. This would allow me to submit in mass and be done in 5 seconds, rather than spending half an hour doing the duplication for them.
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I uploaded about half of what I have - and after a few weeks, things are deader than a Herman Cain campaign office. If I get a few sales I'll upload more.
The upload process is actually ok, once you figure it out. Really, all they'd need to do would be add a couple paragraphs of nice clear explanation on their site. I don't know if I have any images with 50 keywords. Obviously all the agencies would like to kick back against keyword spamming, and reduce their server storage requirements. But they're looking for ways to do this, that don't actually require their reviewers to spend time making judgements about the relevance of all the keywords - especially tough if English isn't the reviewer's native language. No simple answer here, except to come down hard on anyone found to be egregiously spamming.
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Jeez! you cant even get in contact with them via their support! just some weird wiki thingy.
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You can contact support (I think you just have to check the box that says you've looked at the Wiki to get the ticket to be sent). There are also forums (and admins do help people with problems out).
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You can contact support (I think you just have to check the box that says you've looked at the Wiki to get the ticket to be sent). There are also forums (and admins do help people with problems out).
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Anyone else find their reviews rather arbitrary? Alot of my best sellers didn't make it through, and even one of those initially accepted as part of their test didn't make it through. Oh well LOL!
Oh and if a photodune person happens to read this it sure would be nice to see a picture of the file you rejected, especially if you are asking for something before resubmitting it, as I may have multiple files from the same shoot with similar names, and may have no idea which one it is without putting codes in titles and descriptions which you don't want.
And one last grip...it would be nice to get specific rejections, rather than ones that list 3 different possibilities. It helps us authors argue our case if its clear the reviewer fat fingered it...which we all know from time to time happens.
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Hello gwhitton! All fair questions. I have forwarded this on to Jarel our review manager as he can best answer your questions :)
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Yep, now I know Photodune staff fat finger it just like everyone else. :)
Minutes apart I get these two emails.
Congratulations, your item Trans Alaska Oil Pipeline has been approved for sale on the Envato Marketplaces. You can view it online here:
http://photodune.net/item/trans-alaska-oil-pipeline/1372680 (http://photodune.net/item/trans-alaska-oil-pipeline/1372680)
Then this one.
We're sorry, your item Trans Alaska Oil Pipeline has been hard disabled for sale on PhotoDune. This is the reason given by our item inspector:
Unfortunately we're not able to accept your submission at this time as the image quality does not meet our quality requirements due to one or more of the following aspects:
- Element or framing composition
- Noise, exposure, lighting or saturation
- Chromatic aberration, moiré pattern or other image quality issues
Thanks for your submission, we look forward to seeing more of your work.
All the best,
Above link now dead...
Of course there is a reason I never responded to the soft reject email...one because it made no sense, and this image was probably the poorest example in the series, all of which were rejected. Okay whatever. They are on 6-8 other sites, were they sell just fine.
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Yep, now I know Photodune staff fat finger it just like everyone else. :)
Minutes apart I get these two emails.
Congratulations, your item Trans Alaska Oil Pipeline has been approved for sale on the Envato Marketplaces. You can view it online here:
[url]http://photodune.net/item/trans-alaska-oil-pipeline/1372680[/url] ([url]http://photodune.net/item/trans-alaska-oil-pipeline/1372680[/url])
Then this one.
We're sorry, your item Trans Alaska Oil Pipeline has been hard disabled for sale on PhotoDune. This is the reason given by our item inspector:
Unfortunately we're not able to accept your submission at this time as the image quality does not meet our quality requirements due to one or more of the following aspects:
- Element or framing composition
- Noise, exposure, lighting or saturation
- Chromatic aberration, moiré pattern or other image quality issues
Thanks for your submission, we look forward to seeing more of your work.
All the best,
Above link now dead...
Of course there is a reason I never responded to the soft reject email...one because it made no sense, and this image was probably the poorest example in the series, all of which were rejected. Okay whatever. They are on 6-8 other sites, were they sell just fine.
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I will say it again here I guess, PhotoDune does need to hire better reviewers, from my top 20 pictures at SS, half were rejected there.. from 3500 files at SS to 2200..
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I will say it again here I guess, PhotoDune does need to hire better reviewers, from my top 20 pictures at SS, half were rejected there.. from 3500 files at SS to 2200..
They don't have their own reviewers, they outsource.
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I will say it again here I guess, PhotoDune does need to hire better reviewers, from my top 20 pictures at SS, half were rejected there.. from 3500 files at SS to 2200..
They don't have their own reviewers, they outsource.
from what I can see top contributors donīt have a rejection, nothing strange there but honestly its about time to be fair with other contributors too :D proper rejections/approvals
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Ahhhh I have a few credits left at Envato and today tried to login and was going to maybe apply at Photodune but I simply could not log in, kept going to a captcha page and it wouldn't take it - I reset the password and it still wouldn't work and now I have been shut out. I don't remember seeing the captcha thingy before, is it new and buggy?
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Anyone else find their reviews rather arbitrary? Alot of my best sellers didn't make it through, and even one of those initially accepted as part of their test didn't make it through. Oh well LOL!
Oh and if a photodune person happens to read this it sure would be nice to see a picture of the file you rejected, especially if you are asking for something before resubmitting it, as I may have multiple files from the same shoot with similar names, and may have no idea which one it is without putting codes in titles and descriptions which you don't want.
And one last grip...it would be nice to get specific rejections, rather than ones that list 3 different possibilities. It helps us authors argue our case if its clear the reviewer fat fingered it...which we all know from time to time happens.
Hi there gwhitton!
I admit that sometimes reviews do seem somewhat arbitrary or don't seem make sense from an author's perspective. We do frequent quality checks that I cover with the review team to figure out where we have inconsistencies or where we need to make improvements. There are lots of aspects of the review process we're working on which continually lead to an improved system and we, of course, use feedback from threads like these.
As much of the PhotoDune review team is still very new, we often times struggle with consistency between different reviewers, which is something we're always working on and which takes time for a team, especially a large and growing one, to develop in together. There are several features we're working on that I believe will greatly alleviate issues in this area. In the mean time, if you have concerns about your reviews, you can email me at jarel[at]envato.com or submit a support ticket.
Regarding seeing rejected images, you can actually see your rejected images by visiting your hidden tab in your PhotoDune account.
Unfortunately we're not really able to provide highly specific rejections at this time. The review messages list similar potential issues (eg. from lighting, or quality issues, etc) which should, in most cases, provide enough information to make the necessary improvements and resubmit. If it becomes clear that we need to provide more specific feedback, we'll certainly do that. :)
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Ahhhh I have a few credits left at Envato and today tried to login and was going to maybe apply at Photodune but I simply could not log in, kept going to a captcha page and it wouldn't take it - I reset the password and it still wouldn't work and now I have been shut out. I don't remember seeing the captcha thingy before, is it new and buggy?
Recently we have had a few security attacks (if I'm not mistaken) and our development team implemented a few extra security precautions to be on the safe side (again, if I'm not mistaken). You may have experienced these issues at the time these changes we're being pushed out. If you are still having issues, please submit a support ticket and they'll get it sorted out for you. :)
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From what I can gether in this thread, you are rejecting bona-fide sellers and proven commercial value files. Thats no good is it? especially for an agency that wants to grow bigger. Wont get very far doing that, will we.
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Unfortunately we're not really able to provide highly specific rejections at this time. The review messages list similar potential issues (eg. from lighting, or quality issues, etc) which should, in most cases, provide enough information to make the necessary improvements and resubmit. If it becomes clear that we need to provide more specific feedback, we'll certainly do that. :)
Sorry, but are you kidding me?
With every rejection you give us the kitchen sink of possibilities.
- Element or framing composition
- Noise, exposure, lighting or saturation
- Chromatic aberration, moiré pattern or other image quality issues
At least you could narrow this list down to whether its compositional problem or an image quality issue. I can't possibly respond back with anything but a guess on reupload, if I don't know which of these two it is. I bet the reviewers could narrow it down, if the GUI they were using gave them a choice. This is simple programming of the interface they use. And if they can't narrow it down, then you have bigger problems.
Oh and despite this flame....I do give you huge brownie points for at least responding to these issues, that is more than can be said for many of the bigger players. I hope you take our advice and make a better process...it will pay dividends.
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From what I gathered you have to upload shoots via FTP one by one. Because of the MRs so they don't get mixed up. You have to UL a shoot, process the photos in order to UL a new one? Is it normal for processing of small batches to take forever? 17 files are being processed for at least half an hour now :o . If that's the normal process, that it's really way too time consuming and it takes away all of the advantages of ULing via FTP
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Let me ask a question here if i may!
I submit to 11 sites 12 if you include this one that i just joined and none of the other ones tell me my title is wrong and then give me no way of changing it like they do here at PD.
Is there by chance a way around it somehow because i title all of my files a specific way so that when i need to find it all i have to do is type it in the search and hit enter and there it is.
There is no way i am going to go back and re-title every file i have just to get through the submission process.
Any ideas?????
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From what I can gether in this thread, you are rejecting bona-fide sellers and proven commercial value files. Thats no good is it? especially for an agency that wants to grow bigger. Wont get very far doing that, will we.
Very accurate statement. I had a bunch of my good selling model shots rejected for their canned reasons, except for one last week. It was a more specific rejection telling me to photoshop out the nipple protrusion on the bikini top. I guess it was too cold when we did the shoot, so there is a slight nipple hard on you can see on the bikini. I laughed and moved on.
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LOL, that has to be the funniest rejection EVER!
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From what I can gether in this thread, you are rejecting bona-fide sellers and proven commercial value files. Thats no good is it? especially for an agency that wants to grow bigger. Wont get very far doing that, will we.
Very accurate statement. I had a bunch of my good selling model shots rejected for their canned reasons, except for one last week. It was a more specific rejection telling me to photoshop out the nipple protrusion on the bikini top. I guess it was too cold when we did the shoot, so there is a slight nipple hard on you can see on the bikini. I laughed and moved on.
I know they were puritan fanatics the moment I read their not a hint of nudity rule, but that really makes me laugh. Is the trend regarding the owners of new agencies going towards religious fanatics or what? New wave of puritanism and fake morality in some countries? You can't witness anything like that in Europe, for example
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I just uploaded a big batch and some were rejected because MR was missing (it was surely an error on their side, I added MRs to every series in the subfolder). So I have to re-upload them one by one (dozens of files) and add MRs in ZIP format. Let me be blunt; are you naive?!?
I'll just re-upload the whole batch again and make them review them again, after all they brought it on themselves. Stupid things like this really get me in a bad mood :(
On the positive note, I already got some sales, which is nice
ETA I just checked my port and some of the photos from the batch that dozens were rejected from for missing MR are accepted and online. This just proves they messed things up since it was a FTP UL of the whole batch
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Lol anything even remotely related to sex (not a hint of nudity etc) is either immediately rejected or put on hold for a second opinion. PD must be owned by a bible belt fanatic, blinded by idiotic puritanism. I know sex doesn't sell as MS, but some concepts, just a hint, a taste of sex can go a long way, especially in advertising. I really feel sorry for such ppl. Even more for my sales.
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Lol anything even remotely related to sex (not a hint of nudity etc) is either immediately rejected or put on hold for a second opinion. PD must be owned by a bible belt fanatic, blinded by idiotic puritanism. I know sex doesn't sell as MS, but some concepts, just a hint, a taste of sex can go a long way, especially in advertising. I really feel sorry for such ppl. Even more for my sales.
I don't know about that. This is my all time best selling shot at PD: Kind of sexy/kinky if you ask me. ;)
(http://3.s3.envato.com/files/5158594/Romancing-The-Toes.jpg)
They're headquartered in Australia, BTW.
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I dunno, I find this one more of a love&tenderness photo, romantic if you will, him expressing love and devotion, not sexual desire, lust, passion etc. Mine are conceptual, I guess more sexual as well, but there's no nudity or even profanity.
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I dunno, I find this one more of a love&tenderness photo, romantic if you will, him expressing love and devotion, not sexual desire, lust, passion etc. Mine are conceptual, I guess more sexual as well, but there's no nudity or even profanity.
Love, tenderness, and maybe a bit of a foot fetish... ;)
If you don't have any nudity, you might want to contact them and ask what the problem is, so you can either plead your case, or else have a firmer idea of what they're rejecting so you don't waste time in the future.
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I dunno, I find this one more of a love&tenderness photo, romantic if you will, him expressing love and devotion, not sexual desire, lust, passion etc. Mine are conceptual, I guess more sexual as well, but there's no nudity or even profanity.
Love, tenderness, and maybe a bit of a foot fetish... ;)
If you don't have any nudity, you might want to contact them and ask what the problem is, so you can either plead your case, or else have a firmer idea of what they're rejecting so you don't waste time in the future.
A bit maybe. I guess your name carries a lot of weight ;)
I already had my finger on the trigger, but decided against it. The reason was I'm not going to loose any time with low earners. I'm going to treat them as such until they prove otherwise (although I have daily sales since day one, that was yesterday). I'm going to send everything (well not anything violent and sexual obviously) and what gets accepted, gets accepted. I won't loose any sleep over it. That being said, my approval rate is 100% if I forget those in question (less than 10 photos)
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Is there a way to check which files were sold? I can't find anything past the number of DL in a given month...
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Is there a way to check which files were sold? I can't find anything past the number of DL in a given month...
You can look at the Statements tab from the Author Dashboard, or hover over your name when you're logged in and the drop down menu includes a statements item. It'd be nice if the list included a thumbnail of the image, and if it had totals (but there's a downloadable CSV you can quickly get that from)
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Tnx jsnover
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Lol anything even remotely related to sex (not a hint of nudity etc) is either immediately rejected or put on hold for a second opinion. PD must be owned by a bible belt fanatic, blinded by idiotic puritanism. I know sex doesn't sell as MS, but some concepts, just a hint, a taste of sex can go a long way, especially in advertising. I really feel sorry for such ppl. Even more for my sales.
I don't know about that. This is my all time best selling shot at PD: Kind of sexy/kinky if you ask me. ;)
([url]http://3.s3.envato.com/files/5158594/Romancing-The-Toes.jpg[/url])
Lisa, you are so flexible and have incredible balance. There simply are no lengths/pleasures that you won't go to, to produce such outstanding material. :D
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Lisa, you are so flexible and have incredible balance. There simply are no lengths/pleasures that you won't go to, to produce such outstanding material. :D
LOL! Wasn't as difficult as you imagine. Get a pedicure and cheap toe ring, then lie on your back with the camera. Poor hubby had the really tough job ;D
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donīt know if my comments in this thread were the trigger to last night new reviewing of my entire portfolio at PD but I am very happy they have done it, thanks a lot guys, appreciate it ;D
p.s: not beeing sarcastic, my port went from 2200 to 2800!
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They rejected a photo of woman holding money, she was shot from waist up and this is the rejection reason:
Unfortunately we're not able to accept your submission at this time, as it contains imagery of banknotes or other currency that are copyright restricted or do not meet our policies for currency submissions. Photographs should not contain:
- Banknotes photographed flat-on at any size
- Whole bank notes. Bank notes photographed partially or obscured so that no more than 75% of the note is visible may be acceptable.
- Imagery of the British royal family or other restricted peoples
- Currency used in a derogatory manner
Have they gone completely mental ?!?!?! First rejecting anything with just a hint of sexuality or violence and now this? What can you even sell there? ::)
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gotta be a mistake, are they EUR?
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Indeed they are. To make it even worse and to show their double standards, similar one was accepted last week
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I won't go on at length (again) about PhotoDune's (outsourced) reviewing, but will note that in order not to make myself crazy, I just upload - keep track of what I've sent them, but not what they accept or reject. As there is so little consistency in policy, there's no point in trying to learn what to send them.
Why do I bother? Because for a new-ish agency they sell very well.
If you decide to keep sending them files, just stop trying to make sense of acceptances or rejections and you and PD should get along just fine :)
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Indeed, that's what I'm in fact doing with these small agencies. But when I'm faced with such muppets, I really can't help myself and not report about it over here :)
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I think photodune is a lot of pretence. I have a few pals uploaded to this agency, I am talking about independant IS, diamond exclusives, with thousands of files, etc, I am talking about really pro photographers and they have had nothing but hassle and troubles with this agency.
The general feeling is, they dont really know where they stand.
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I just tried to upload some of my images for the first acceptance. I chose about ten files and I can't upload because I get this weird "You must select your portfolio from the drop down" I have no idea what they mean. Anyone can help me there?
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I haven't had any problems with Photodune. It's an easy upload with few rejections. They rejected one of my best selling photos, I sent an email and they accepted it. Much better than some sites that have become silly with rejections. I would like to see higher prices and commissions but at least they sell, unlike a lot of the sites started in the past few years.
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Just been accepted and started uploading...have to say it is pretty easy if you follow their guidelines...and approval is fast. The concept of uploading a shoot and then the related releases and not having to match appeals...unlike some/most of the other sites which are clunky. Overall I'd say they have a great system going and I hope sales are good.
And having grown up in Sydney I can't help wanting to see an Aussie outfit do well. ;D
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I can't get accepted because I can't upload my initial batch. Am I the only one who gets this 'You must select your portfolio from the drop down' ? ??????
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Indeed they are. To make it even worse and to show their double standards, similar one was accepted last week
And to show their triple standards check out how much they are bothered about copyright and stock photo misuse in their other marketplaces.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/envato-and-copyright/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/envato-and-copyright/)
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Indeed they are. To make it even worse and to show their double standards, similar one was accepted last week
And to show their triple standards check out how much they are bothered about copyright and stock photo misuse in their other marketplaces.
[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/envato-and-copyright/[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/envato-and-copyright/[/url])
Yeah I read that thread. It just shows they're probably here for a short period of time, just for the short term money grab.
It's interesting I had a talk with some marketing agencies owners and a CEO of one of the top Camera brands yesterday, I was trying to convince the former to buy elsewhere than at IS and broke down the MS model to the latter. He just couldn't believe a middleman can get as much as 85%. It's totally unreal and unbelievable to anyone, especially businesspeople (some surely find it interesting that there is still such an industry where you can rip off so many ppl to such a degree)
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I can't get accepted because I can't upload my initial batch. Am I the only one who gets this 'You must select your portfolio from the drop down' ? ??????
donīt remember that one, I remember doing the zip file, can you show us a printscreen?
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My print screen seems to big to upload and i have no idea how to make it smaller.
Sorry. What do you have to do with this zip thing? I saw it but didn't do anything with it. Maybe that's the problem. If trying to get in is already this difficult I wonder what it is like once you're in...
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My print screen seems to big to upload and i have no idea how to make it smaller.
Sorry. What do you have to do with this zip thing? I saw it but didn't do anything with it. Maybe that's the problem. If trying to get in is already this difficult I wonder what it is like once you're in...
It's a never ending story, they're not adding MRs from subfolders you uploaded them to, their outsourced reviewers are complete muppets and drive you crazy with absurd rejections (I'm mean if it's good enough for the other 10 sites, it's not good for a small site paying only 33% commissions etc).
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My print screen seems to big to upload and i have no idea how to make it smaller.
Sorry. What do you have to do with this zip thing? I saw it but didn't do anything with it. Maybe that's the problem. If trying to get in is already this difficult I wonder what it is like once you're in...
donīt remember the exact steps but after the usual register, you have the quiz, then you need to send a zip file with at least 5 pictures to get approved, after getting in you just ftp the files and submit 40 each time if you have the iptc done and less than 50 keywords, no numbers allowed too
regarding model releases pictures, you need to upload first the MRs to model release folder at ftp and then the files from that mr into the previous folder, after the upload click process on author dashboard and it will assign the model releases automatically
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I can't get accepted because I can't upload my initial batch. Am I the only one who gets this 'You must select your portfolio from the drop down' ? ??????
donīt remember that one, I remember doing the zip file, can you show us a printscreen?
You're both right:
1. upload the zip file (containing at least 5 pictures, better some more)
2. choose the zip file name from the dropdown list
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I got accepted and have uploaded since then quite some images. They review fast (24 hours) but they rejected so many bestsellers of mine that I wonder how they do this reviewing. Anyway I try not bother about that too much. It's their loss..
Can you change the price of the accepted images? I notice all of them have 3,- . And where do you see if you are submitted for Extended license? I want to make sure that has been turned off. Thanks for the help you all.
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Besides that you only get sales right after you upload, it looks like the site works on feeding the beast concept. Reviewers are complete muppets, read the previous posts ;)
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I got accepted and have uploaded since then quite some images. They review fast (24 hours) but they rejected so many bestsellers of mine that I wonder how they do this reviewing. Anyway I try not bother about that too much. It's their loss..
Can you change the price of the accepted images? I notice all of them have 3,- . And where do you see if you are submitted for Extended license? I want to make sure that has been turned off. Thanks for the help you all.
Hover over your name and select Settings from the dropdown menu. It's in the Licenses section
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Besides that you only get sales right after you upload, it looks like the site works on feeding the beast concept. ..
That may be the case, unfortunately, but I guess we'll see if sales "catch" after a time (as well as right after upload). I didn't upload this past week or 10 days and whereas I had about $25 from last week, this week has a grand total of 66 cents.
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I got accepted and have uploaded since then quite some images. They review fast (24 hours) but they rejected so many bestsellers of mine that I wonder how they do this reviewing. Anyway I try not bother about that too much. It's their loss..
Can you change the price of the accepted images? I notice all of them have 3,- . And where do you see if you are submitted for Extended license? I want to make sure that has been turned off. Thanks for the help you all.
Hover over your name and select Settings from the dropdown menu. It's in the Licenses section
Thanks!
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Besides that you only get sales right after you upload, it looks like the site works on feeding the beast concept.
Oh, I hadn't realized that. I haven't uploaded there since getting my portfolio on the site. Sales were good for about three months but are a bit softer now. Better get busy sending them my newer stuff then. Thanks for the info :)
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Besides that you only get sales right after you upload, it looks like the site works on feeding the beast concept.
Oh, I hadn't realized that. I haven't uploaded there since getting my portfolio on the site. Sales were good for about three months but are a bit softer now. Better get busy sending them my newer stuff then. Thanks for the info :)
No problem, it looks like the old SS system. When sites mature (have enough material and tons of traffic) they switch to normal mode, like SS did some 9 months ago. After that, basing your business solely on constant high volume uploads is more of a burden, you just get a ton of low quality similars from half of the contributors (because they feel they need to upload like crazy in order to get decent earnings), have more expenses for paying inspectors, to inspect something that's oversaturated and because of that (and low quality you get because of high quantity) won't sell.
BTW I just got this rejection, I guess those outsourced inspectors doesn't even speak English:
We're sorry, your item "Title". Selective focus on the coffee cup. has not been approved for sale on PhotoDune. This is the reason given by our item inspector:
Unfortunately we're not able to accept your submission at this time as the image quality does not meet our quality requirements due to one or more of the following aspects:
- Blur or motion blur
- Focus
- Excessively soft
::)
And I get so much of these absurd rejections from these muppets...
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These ridiculous rejections will drive me away from the agency eventualy, same for other agencies.
We are not in competition with each other, we are in competition with these reviewers!
It's not the agency at fault, it's these guys that feel threathened by our work or just use their power to rob us from our money.
I hate to see those flaming threads amongst us contributors, makes it even worse.
Also, add more value and have more respect for your own work people!
Alright, just wanted that of my chest.
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What makes it even worse is their super complicated system for sending the request for re-inspection (IS's version of sending it to a scout I guess). I decided to not bother with rejections at these small, low earnings sites, but the first time I got a silly rejection like that I wanted to, but got turned of by the mess of their interface (thousands of categories, sections etc, like finding a needle in a haystack). The whole site is really not easy to navigate...
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Not easy to navigate? :D
Try to submit a picture is just a terrible experience!
Too complicated, need a lot of time and reviewers reject so many picture that's sell very well everywhere!
I already give up to this site. >:(
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These ridiculous rejections will drive me away from the agency eventualy, same for other agencies.
It's not worth worrying about rejections at minor sites. Just submit your whole port and forget: what one site rejects will sell at another.
If you have a large port, you will end having a good representation of your work everywhere despite some rejections.
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Hey last Evanto's Bundlers!
Have you received a payment from the last bundle in February?
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They just rejected a bunch of images that were approved at all other agencies.
These reviewers must feel special or have a god complex ;)
The more I do microstock, the more I think I'm in a kindergarten, attitude from agencies or fellow photographers, it don't matter, it feels like one big playground and not a business.
I'm about to reject another agency, what a waste of my precious time.
@Microstockphoto: it is worrying if you spend 12 hours a day on this.
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They just rejected a bunch of images that were approved at all other agencies.
These reviewers must feel special or have a god complex ;)
The more I do microstock, the more I think I'm in a kindergarten, attitude from agencies or fellow photographers, it don't matter, it feels like one big playground and not a business.
I'm about to reject another agency, what a waste of my precious time.
Just had a few rejected which were accepted everywhere else (10 agencies or so). I already said I wouldn't bother with them anymore, but I had a bunch of files already uploaded and processed from over a month ago and I just clicked that submit button...Their reviewers are complete muppets, I've seen bad reviewing on a few occasions, but all of the others were amateurs compared to them (in sense of incompetence that is).
These small sites are a joke anyway. I thought at a time it's probably just me, but then checked the stats of a IS diamond and realized it's normal to get just 200-300 sales per year (instead of in a week or even a couple of days on the top 4)
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The site is a bit rough, but once understood it's easy enough to submit, and I didn't get any weird rejections. But after a few sales it went stone cold and is now deader than a Herman Cain campaign office. I've stopped even checking the numbers and I'm thinking about pulling out, not because of the lack of sales but because the prices are so low - I don't feel like I should be supporting them.
Just my experience - others are saying they're getting sales.
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@Microstockphoto: it is worrying if you spend 12 hours a day on this.
Ok, I'm not saying that I don't worry because I don't care (I spend a lot of time on this too). And I agree with your Kindergarten feeling too.
I'm just saying that random rejections - and bad policies in general - backfire more on agencies than on us, because all of us are equally affected; in this sense, it's THEM that should be worried by their own bad reviews
up to a certain point, if a buyer can't find a file he/she will buy another one;
beyond that point, if a buyer can't find too many files he/she will buy at another site;
in the end, it's a closed system and it's all the same for us statistically. Just my opinion.
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I agree mate, and thanks for the heads-up, it still gets to me now and then though, especialy the unprofessionalism, hence my frustration.
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Just joined PD and I must say I am totally taken aback with the % of rejections - I'm talking of 30-50% rejected images.
They make no sense whatsoever - wish I had known just how bad it was before I started submtting.
Anywho I have resigned myself to just upload everything ( my port is very small only ~500 images) and seeing if I end up with half of that on the site and giving it a year to see how it goes.
The thing with these absurd rejections from a business point of view is this - PD is PAYING people to REJECT potential SALES, because that is basically what it come down to - every image that is rejected is a potential missed sale to a customer
Well thats my lil rant ... off to upload some more
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It's my belief that they employ reviewers who have no experience of the stock photo industry but who are just following guidelines that have been given to them, I've had a few rejections with remarks/suggestions about what I should do with the image, which in each case clearly showed the reviewer was clueless about stock, I resubmitted them with a note as to why the reviewer is wrong and every time they've been approved almost instantly. I did this yesterday and it was approved almost instantly and as it happened the image them sold with a couple of hours.
If I was to hazard a guess I'd say they're using a cheap service agency in somewhere like India to do the initial bulk reviewing and then a real reviewer to look at any that come back.
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These rejections would make sense if they were based on image quality, not technical, but everything else, with originality and differentiation as most important factors in mind. That way they'd really build a quality collection. If you check files by age on any major agency, you still see, how much crap gets accepted. I mean how many photos of a businesswoman holding a credit card do you really need, especially if every single one of them is bad or even terrible. If they'd adopt such standards, they'd also have to raise the prices significantly since they'd offer something no other agency is. A collection of carefully picked images, that is small enough to find exactly what you need in no time.
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Well I thought I would give Photodune a go see what the process was like so yesterday evening after being accepted as contributor I uploaded 110 images via filzilla. Before I went to my bed dismayed they had managed to process just 38 images which I checked keywording and submitted. This morning there are still 72 waiting to be processed before I can check them.
They must have the slowest computer system on the planet. I may not bother in future................
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It's my belief that they employ reviewers who have no experience of the stock photo industry but who are just following guidelines that have been given to them, I've had a few rejections with remarks/suggestions about what I should do with the image, which in each case clearly showed the reviewer was clueless about stock, I resubmitted them with a note as to why the reviewer is wrong and every time they've been approved almost instantly. I did this yesterday and it was approved almost instantly and as it happened the image them sold with a couple of hours.
If I was to hazard a guess I'd say they're using a cheap service agency in somewhere like India to do the initial bulk reviewing and then a real reviewer to look at any that come back.
Definitely the impression I got on the graphics side at graphic leftovers. The reviewers seem to have no real idea about the market.
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Hey last Evanto's Bundlers!
Have you received a payment from the last bundle in February?
I think so, I got a healthy amount of "Other adjustments earnings" on the 9th March.
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Hey last Evanto's Bundlers!
Have you received a payment from the last bundle in February?
I think so, I got a healthy amount of "Other adjustments earnings" on the 9th March.
+1 ;)
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Hey last Evanto's Bundlers!
Have you received a payment from the last bundle in February?
I think so, I got a healthy amount of "Other adjustments earnings" on the 9th March.
+1 ;)
congratulations to both! is there a place to see them?
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Hey last Evanto's Bundlers!
Have you received a payment from the last bundle in February?
I think so, I got a healthy amount of "Other adjustments earnings" on the 9th March.
+1 ;)
congratulations to both! is there a place to see them?
Unfortunately, bundle offer is over, so isn't possible any more to see all items from bundle...
But here is mine image which was in...: http://photodune.net/item/computer-service/463689 (http://photodune.net/item/computer-service/463689)
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has the review team gone on holidays for the last week? My stuff have not moved position in it's queue for 4 days now...
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Sales are completely dead too. I don't think this site has much of a future...
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i get like $1 sale a week lol but my portfolio is only ~130. In the mean time for ~100 portfolio on istock I get 3x the sale, and approval of images aren't as random.
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i get like $1 sale a week lol but my portfolio is only ~130. In the mean time for ~100 portfolio on istock I get 3x the sale, and approval of images aren't as random.
My IS port gets 132x the sales, while my SS about 200x the sales than PD does ;)
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PD did great for me till January, now since then basically dead as well. Few bucks a month. Real shame, it was looking so promising.
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PD did great for me till January, now since then basically dead as well. Few bucks a month. Real shame, it was looking so promising.
They had very few contributors at the beginning, but they could tap in to a customer base from the start. Once every contributor piles in, it makes sense that the sales will be diluted. Apart from relying on their own customers which aren't necessarily always looking for images, have pd done anything to get new customers. Remember sales get diluted for contributors, but the agency aren't getting less sales.
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August 2011 8 Sales $6.65
September 2011 34 Sales $32.50
October 2011 28 Sales $18.25
November 2011 40 Sales $23.00
December 2011 36 Sales $31.68
January 2012 20 Sales $17.82
February 2012 29 Sales $20.46
March 2012 13 Sales $11.88
Total Sales 208 Sales $162.24
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March is just (-$2) at February's level and we have 10 days to go, so I wouldn't say things are dead, but February was much slower for me than January and I'm not seeing a big boost in March. Given their new status, the fact that they did better than BigStock in February (which is not doing well but which has been around a good while longer) suggests they're around for a while, possibly able to become middle tier.
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These ridiculous rejections will drive me away from the agency eventualy, same for other agencies.
We are not in competition with each other, we are in competition with these reviewers!
It's not the agency at fault, it's these guys that feel threathened by our work or just use their power to rob us from our money.
I hate to see those flaming threads amongst us contributors, makes it even worse.
Also, add more value and have more respect for your own work people!
Alright, just wanted that of my chest.
I know! I uploaded them 10, images that had sold for thousands of bucks and would you believe, rejected! the uploads were slightly corrupt, but still, in a way I was lucky to find out before it got any worse.
I recon Photodune needs a bit more experience, etc, perhaps learning the ropes from some of the major agencies. :)
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I think they've given up on reviewing altogether. I have a batch of images uploaded 8 days ago still sitting in the pending queue. Is anyone else getting files reviewed by them at the moment?
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I think they've given up on reviewing altogether. I have a batch of images uploaded 8 days ago still sitting in the pending queue. Is anyone else getting files reviewed by them at the moment?
My oldest images have been in the queue for 9 days. As for sales, March is tracking with January. February was a better month, although PhotoDune is strictly lower middle tier for me.
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I have some images there, have recently made a few sales and thought about submitting more, but heard too many stories of wild rejections so maybe I'll wait until they're a little more 'together'.
But I ask myself again why we even give images to new agencies. Are they really finding new markets and buyers, or are they just undercutting the big agencies and stealing their sales? PD's prices are very low and have no place to go - there are no tiers. If I make one dollar at PD, is that at the expense of a 3 dollar sale I would have made at DT?
If a new agency was offering higher commissions, then sure, I'd be on board. But if the commissions are lower, aren't we just racing ourselves to the bottom?
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But I ask myself again why we even give images to new agencies. Are they really finding new markets and buyers, or are they just undercutting the big agencies and stealing their sales? PD's prices are very low and have no place to go - there are no tiers. If I make one dollar at PD, is that at the expense of a 3 dollar sale I would have made at DT?
If a new agency was offering higher commissions, then sure, I'd be on board. But if the commissions are lower, aren't we just racing ourselves to the bottom?
We share the same opinion ;)
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If a new agency was offering higher commissions, then sure, I'd be on board. But if the commissions are lower, aren't we just racing ourselves to the bottom?
One new agency that may have potential is AYCS ; They are very new, but going against the grain of what we're used to seeing from every other agency which is selling stock for pennies, at least they allow you to set your own price, and on top of that are paying out 75% commission.
i decided to upload there and I know sales will initially be slow, but I think giving it a year or so may be a better investment than getting 25-30 cents per sale at some of the other newer sites
Its worth a look see:
(http://allyoucanstock.com/banner/aycs_125x125_01.png) (http://www.allyoucanstock.com/index.jsp?ref=115)
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If a new agency was offering higher commissions, then sure, I'd be on board. But if the commissions are lower, aren't we just racing ourselves to the bottom?
One new agency that may have potential is AYCS ; They are very new, but going against the grain of what we're used to seeing from every other agency which is selling stock for pennies, at least they allow you to set your own price, and on top of that are paying out 75% commission.
i decided to upload there and I know sales will initially be slow, but I think giving it a year or so may be a better investment than getting 25-30 cents per sale at some of the other newer sites
They need to fix their search - I did one for Boston harbor and got a bunch of spam from other places - apparently they do an "OR" search by default.
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Dump it! and forget everything about new agencies, its a lasbyrint of nadas and a steady race to the bottom. Be happy with the agencies we have got. Its enough for everybody.
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I think they've given up on reviewing altogether. I have a batch of images uploaded 8 days ago still sitting in the pending queue. Is anyone else getting files reviewed by them at the moment?
Hi everyone, we certainly haven't given up on reviewing. ;)
Our review turnaround time has been unusually slow lately as we've been pulling in pending bulk imports. It won't be much longer and the review turnaround time will go back to normal.
To adress the comments of wild or inconsistent rejections, we're making some changes to various aspects of the review process that will improve these areas. This should be visible from authors' perspectives very soon. :)
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i've been willing to give new agencies a chance, esp'ly if they have a simple submission process. but to date superhug, isign, allyoucan stock zoonar have all be a bust - no sales, and no views
cutcaster & photodune are slightly better - but also few views and rare sales
3dstudio started well, but i've not had 1 sale from them in the last 8 months - when they started it seemed a good idea, since they paid about $10 per sale, but it appears that images just get lost
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@ Photodune: The model release system might be worth a turnaround as well. It really is a pain!
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For all the PhotoDune fans, you can now add your PhotoDune profile to the list of site links on the bottom of your profile.
You do so in your Forum Profile Settings (http://www.microstockgroup.com/profile/?sa=forumProfile)
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@ Photodune: The model release system might be worth a turnaround as well. It really is a pain!
Yeah, that's certainly a project that we're aware needs to be fixed/improved. Hopefully our development team will be able to get to it soon. :)
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Good news bad news situation.
Good news I went over $100 in earnings so I went to request a payout (it's actually a $50 threshold but I had never looked). The bad news is that requesting today, they'll pay me on the 15th of May. I can't believe that there's such a long wait - I assumed the 15th of this month, having apparently misread the text. I think I'd have done better to choose the other option - to pay me everything I was owed on April 30th.
Why they could pay me more, sooner if I picked the other option I have no idea. All seems pretty unreasonable to me. I understand they have to avoid too much administrative overhead, but some sort of balance with contributors getting their cash is important too.
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Yeah, that's what you get dealing with those small agencies. Yet another reason (for me), to avoid them.
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The bad news is that requesting today, they'll pay me on the 15th of May. I can't believe that there's such a long wait
Yes, I've requested for 60$ , when i saw 15th May I just can't believe my eyes!!! ::)
I hope it's not 15th may 2013.
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Yeah, that's what you get dealing with those small agencies. Yet another reason (for me), to avoid them.
Which agencies do you supply mate? all top & middle tier?
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Yeah, that's what you get dealing with those small agencies. Yet another reason (for me), to avoid them.
Which agencies do you supply mate? all top & middle tier?
Only top 4 as of lately. I did test all of the mid tier and PD. Earnings don't justify all the work and most importantly hassle. At the top 4, save for IS (and even IS works just fine lately), there's no real hassle, things are running smoothly most of the time, absurd rejections are rare (and no, I don't think DT's policy on similars is counterproductive or bad).
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Good news I went over $100 in earnings so I went to request a payout (it's actually a $50 threshold but I had never looked). The bad news is that requesting today, they'll pay me on the 15th of May. I can't believe that there's such a long wait - I assumed the 15th of this month, having apparently misread the text. I think I'd have done better to choose the other option - to pay me everything I was owed on April 30th.
Other good news is that sales are good enough you can probably expect to get a payout each month. Once you are getting monthly checks, the one month delay isn't noticed.
Just as a suggestion, I would be careful about waiting until the last day of the month to request. I guess Australia is quite a bit ahead of us timewise. When I have waited until the last day of them month to request, it has been the first day of the next month for them, and I had to wait an additional month to get paid. Got burned that way twice. Now I just request every time I get $100 or better. At least that way I can be sure of getting a check each month.
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Those of you who are actively submitting - what's your opinion of the inspections? Are they sensible and consistent? I see some changes are in the works, but no schedule was given.
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Those of you who are actively submitting - what's your opinion of the inspections? Are they sensible and consistent? I see some changes are in the works, but no schedule was given.
i'm still submitting , but really close to giving up - reviews are consistently arbitrary, overly stringent and ridiculous and sales minimal. only reason i've gone on thos far is sumbission is easy
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BTW, PD's payout minimum is $50. The moment I reach that, I put in my payout request for whatever my balance will be at month's end.
In February I hit the minimum early on the 29th my time, and by the time I got in that morning it was already the 1st in Melbourne and too late for a March payout. *sigh*
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I just started uploading to PhotoDune and must say I am disappointed so far. I realize the site is new, in fact still marked "beta" so Envato if you are listening here are my suggestions for improvement:
1) Approval seems to be taking about a week. I am at 8 days on my oldest batch. This is not terrible, but not good either, I appreciate a site that can turn my images in 3 days or less.
2) Inspection, or inspectors seem a little random and worse, much too eager to reject for: "Unfortunately we're not able to accept your submission at this time as it does not meet our general requirements. Images must be well composed, technically and aesthetically sound, and provide utility for potential buyers." I have no issues with rejections for quality or if you just do not want that image, it is your site. I do take issue when an inspector decides there is no value to any of the millions of potential buyers all by themselves. Most of the images rejected were accepted at other sites, and some have already sold. Again, not a complaint, I send the same images to all 6 agencies and they can take what they want. But for a new site, I hate to see you go down the Low Commercial Value route. If it is a good clean image give it a chance please.
3) Errors for having too many keywords. Probably the most irritating thing on the site. I get you only want 50 words, I disagree that 50 is the right number, but it is your site. But why on earth do make us manually figure out how many keywords there are? If you know it is over 50 then obviously you counted them, right? Then put the silly number on the screen. Do you have any idea how much time I have wasted trying to figure out which ones to delete and get to 50? Without knowing how many I need to delete? Silly, Silly, Silly. That time should be spent creating images not counting keywords.
4) The site appears to have been designed with a far lower number of items in mind. The list for "currently processing" on my dashboard stretches for pages, and I am only uploading a few at a time. My portfolio is tiny and it seems cumbersome, I cannot imagine how folks with a real portfolio are getting along. Again, not a complaint, just a suggestion that if you are going to be a stock photo site, you will need a little different look than what works for some of the other items you sell on your sites. How are you going to handle 20 million images?
5) Acceptance/rejection emails. Is it possible to get them in a single email? Maybe there is a setting for this and I missed it. I only upload 25 at a time but getting 25 emails is still a bunch and those sending 100's or 1,000's of images must be deluged.
Thanks for listening.
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i am not uploading until I see evidence that wild and irrational rejections issue has been deaalt with and fixed, then I will upload the rest of my port...
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Those of you who are actively submitting - what's your opinion of the inspections? Are they sensible and consistent? I see some changes are in the works, but no schedule was given.
I've just come back from a week away, so perhaps things have become sane in the interim, but in general I've found their (outsourced) inspections utterly inconsistent. I just upload and forget it (unlike other sites where I try to learn their likes and dislikes to feed them only what they want).
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I just started uploading to PhotoDune and must say I am disappointed so far. I realize the site is new, in fact still marked "beta" so Envato if you are listening here are my suggestions for improvement:
1) Approval seems to be taking about a week. I am at 8 days on my oldest batch. This is not terrible, but not good either, I appreciate a site that can turn my images in 3 days or less.
2) Inspection, or inspectors seem a little random and worse, much too eager to reject for: "Unfortunately we're not able to accept your submission at this time as it does not meet our general requirements. Images must be well composed, technically and aesthetically sound, and provide utility for potential buyers." I have no issues with rejections for quality or if you just do not want that image, it is your site. I do take issue when an inspector decides there is no value to any of the millions of potential buyers all by themselves. Most of the images rejected were accepted at other sites, and some have already sold. Again, not a complaint, I send the same images to all 6 agencies and they can take what they want. But for a new site, I hate to see you go down the Low Commercial Value route. If it is a good clean image give it a chance please.
3) Errors for having too many keywords. Probably the most irritating thing on the site. I get you only want 50 words, I disagree that 50 is the right number, but it is your site. But why on earth do make us manually figure out how many keywords there are? If you know it is over 50 then obviously you counted them, right? Then put the silly number on the screen. Do you have any idea how much time I have wasted trying to figure out which ones to delete and get to 50? Without knowing how many I need to delete? Silly, Silly, Silly. That time should be spent creating images not counting keywords.
4) The site appears to have been designed with a far lower number of items in mind. The list for "currently processing" on my dashboard stretches for pages, and I am only uploading a few at a time. My portfolio is tiny and it seems cumbersome, I cannot imagine how folks with a real portfolio are getting along. Again, not a complaint, just a suggestion that if you are going to be a stock photo site, you will need a little different look than what works for some of the other items you sell on your sites. How are you going to handle 20 million images?
5) Acceptance/rejection emails. Is it possible to get them in a single email? Maybe there is a setting for this and I missed it. I only upload 25 at a time but getting 25 emails is still a bunch and those sending 100's or 1,000's of images must be deluged.
Thanks for listening.
All you say is truth, and the keyword count issue is indeed the most annoying problem for me.
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(unlike other sites where I try to learn their likes and dislikes to feed them only what they want).
Wow, this really seems time consuming. I just dump everything to every site I contribute to (top 4 only as of lately anyway) and let them decide. I don't have the time (much less the nerves) to think what every site wants, or better said accepts. It's better to think what to shoot next. The top 4 mostly accept quality. mean they reject it if it's not there and mostly their rejections are just. And even if they're not, well you can't do much about it, you can resubmit at most sites (and I don't really care about what happens then)
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For those wondering about rejections there, no improvement.
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I think that's one of the reasons they're changing the name to PhotoDoom! ;D
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1) Approval seems to be taking about a week.
Annoying but not a big drawback for me.
2) Inspection, or inspectors seem a little random and worse, much too eager to reject for: "Unfortunately we're not able to accept your submission at this time as it does not meet our general requirements. Images must be well composed, technically and aesthetically sound, and provide utility for potential buyers." I have no issues with rejections for quality or if you just do not want that image, it is your site. I do take issue when an inspector decides there is no value to any of the millions of potential buyers all by themselves.
This is a deal-breaker. Especially if I'm submitting a 'niche' image that is already on 3 major sites and does sell now and then. I have a very small portfolio and if they reject my best sellers, there's no point.
3) Errors for having too many keywords.
Agreed. No one is going to bother going through all their images, counting keywords and hand-editing the list during submission. Fortunately most of my images don't have that many keywords, if they did I wouldn't submit here.
4) The site appears to have been designed with a far lower number of items in mind.
True, but not really a problem.
5) Acceptance/rejection emails.
True, but not really a problem.
For me the big disincentive to submit more here is the low prices. At this time I'm waiting for indications that the reviewing has stabilized and is making sense; but even if it does I'm undecided. Do we really want to support this agency, which seems to be based on subscription prices for on-demand sales?
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the review queue haven't gotten any better, if not worse, I think everyone over there have taken the Easter weekend off (last 5 days). My stuff have not moved in the queue and afew have the bar completely filled since Friday. You think everyone'll be back to work by now?
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Who cares...