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1001
« on: November 01, 2013, 20:29 »
Across the board about 90% higher than last October. October was my second worst month last year and it is my second worst month this year. No sales on my personal site this month and just a bunch of cards on FAA but hoping I'll see things pick up on both in November. I had one of my photos chosen to be featured in "Featured Photographers" on Photoshelter earlier this week, so hoping that brings in some visitors - it's a fine art piece so I'll see how it goes.
For the year I'm at 300% of last year with two months to go. Half of my stock photo income this year came from direct stock photo sales to clients who either found me through my Photoshelter site or from publishers I approached directly. Another 14% is due to sales on FAA which isn't exactly stock but is certainly similar. I've increased my portfolios at SS, DT and iS (just recently) between 10 and 20% and am up 35% on my combined income from all three last year, so that's actually not too bad. Alamy meanwhile has fallen off a cliff for me (it's about 1/3rd what it was last year and the few RM sales I'm getting over there have been for a pittance).
I think you all have the right idea with Symbiostock and looking to find a good outlet for RM work. Getting 100% of the license fee or close to that and licensing images for $100-$500 and up per license is clearly the way to go.
1002
« on: October 01, 2013, 23:52 »
Pretty much as expected not seeing much growth in the amount I've earned from actual new files (most of my income is from files > 6 months old) but overall my stock photo income is growing on SS, DT and iS. However erratic it may be month to month, the overall trend is upwards. Though I only had card sales on FAA this month, it's been earning me $50-190 per print sale most months, and with occasional sales due to people finding images on my website, I'm cautiously optimistic about selling stock photos.
I've done some cold-calling to a few places that buy stock images with hopeful results so I'm thinking that may be where I put the bulk of my energies for the next few months, submitting RM files and lists of what I have available to various travel agencies, magazines, and calendar companies, together with putting all the RF files I have on Alamy onto the micros since my RPI on Alamy doesn't justify my leaving them there exclusively. My average sale on Alamy is now less than $50 with less than $25 coming to me, and most RM sales there net me $15-18, a fee I can easily earn from a "single & other download" file on SS, and about the same or less than I can earn from an extended license there or elsewhere.
I'm reluctant to add more files to iStock but my RPI is good there despite the fact that (a) all my photo+ files which were my best sellers are now stuck in the Main collection and (b) most of my income there is from the PP, so I may add a few new files there. RPI doesn't lie.
I just did a detailed analysis of my RPI for the entire year and it has increased more than I'd expected on SS, DT and even on iS, while it has decreased significantly on Alamy. I forget where I read a discussion about this, but RPI is really the most important thing to look at because it gives you a decent comparison of how each site is doing for you, whether your portfolio there is large or small. If my RPI is rising on the micros, that tells me my photo portfolios are improving and it gives me an idea of how much more I can expect to earn for every photo I add.
I think the keys are marketing my work directly to buyers who need the kinds of images I shoot, letting me earn 100% of the profit, and uploading to the sites that have a proven track record so they can market those other images for me.
1003
« on: September 03, 2013, 18:40 »
I have no clue what stocksy really wants but just had to chime in here and say your stuff is gorgeous. The animals are particularly fine and would seem IMHO to fit their style in terms of being well-crafted for stock without feeling so stocky. Difficult to explain but the animals have the kind of feel I get from looking at the site.
Lots of your other stuff has that same feel - I'd say make a gallery with the stuff you think they'd like - you have a sense of what they're looking for I'm sure - trust your instincts - and send them that link in October. Good luck. Their loss if they say no again - really fine work.
1004
« on: September 03, 2013, 18:27 »
If you sell 200 images in that year and get 200 free spots, and those sell too (assuming the RPI of $40), then the photographer will earn $16,000 - 10,000 = $6,000. That's a decent profit for a $10K investment in one year (of course we're discounting the cost of the photos etc).
Do you have to be accepted by Getty to do PC or can anyone who's willing to pay to play upload their images via that route? And do you pay a one-time fee of $50 or is that an annual fee? It does seem outrageous that they get the lion's share of the profit on photos that you have paid to have them host, but I've heard of others in PC who feel the investment was worth it.
Anyone else care to comment?
1005
« on: September 03, 2013, 18:15 »
As the price of absolutely everything goes up, the price for our images goes down, that's the discouraging reality. I don't care if they're converted from jpegs, once tiff sales made us many times the $0.35-0.42 we now get from the subs. I had one tiff go for 29 credits in mid August, netting me $12.48, no great sum but $12 sales add up way faster than 35-cent ones do. I see the same thing on Alamy when they would license a photo for $50 to one client and license the same size file to another for $6. And look what Getty did with the google deal - netting people $12 for images they'd licensed for $200-500 in the not too distant past. I wish I could see an alternative, but volume sales seem to be the only solution. There's clearly a market for subs and DT seems to be grabbing more of it than they did in the past. My SS earnings still beat out DT but they were closer than they've been in some time. Let's just hope the people spending $50 or so for the image that nets us $12 don't switch to the subs as well.
1006
« on: September 03, 2013, 16:26 »
Hate that they are now selling tiffs as subs but on the other hand I had my BME there in August so I guess the volume is making up for the level 4 and 5 sales that are now subs. Still annoyed about the subs even if I'm actually making more now. It just seems like they're giving away the store.
1007
« on: September 03, 2013, 16:20 »
I just sold a bunch of tiffs on DT as subscriptions in the past week - level 4 and 5 images that would have earned me around $12 or so apiece under normal circumstances. I had my BME on DT last month so don't want to quit there but I'm really annoyed that my full sized tiffs are being licensed for peanuts. I assume they make the tiffs from jpegs, although I have uploaded RAW files there as well with the understanding that they would sell for more. If they are giving away tiffs made from my large RAW files (I shoot with a D700 and a D5100) then I may want to remove the RAW files from the site. So frustrating. $5 a month with 180 images? That sounds so discouraging - even if you left off a zero that seems awfully low. Hope you were joking!?! I'm getting a ton of subscription sales now and I guess the volume is making up for the regular high-level sales I used to get, but it is really discouraging that they think they have to give away our images for next to nothing to make any sales.
1008
« on: September 02, 2013, 18:55 »
Shutterstock - 2nd BMY - up 115% from July Dreamstime - BME - up 10% from my second BME and up 38% from July iStock - won't really know til I get partner sales since they make up most of my income there, but pretty negligible after a BME last month Alamy-  (Tons of zooms including a few using the file number itself so hoping this means some decent sales will show up soon - it's been a drought there lately). Fine Art America - continuing to get sales every month. My Photoshelter account continues to be worthwhile. Made some sales and was also contacted by a museum in Chicago that was specifically searching on Photoshelter. It looks like they may license on of my photos to use as part of a science exhibit scheduled for the spring. I highly recommend their platform. http://www.photoshelter.com/referral/MA2CA7TC7J
1009
« on: September 02, 2013, 18:19 »
I've uploaded a lot of photos taken with my Nikon Coolpiix P7000 to Alamy (in my news/reportage account, it's not on their list of acceptable cameras for my main account there - the news accounts gives you more leeway on quality). I also have several on SS, DT, iS, and Fotolia that I've shot with it. It's a great carry-around camera in the day with good light, shoots RAW, 10.2 MP, weight 1 LB. I like that it goes from superwide (4.5mm) to telephoto. I used it last year while I was shooting OpSail 2012 on board a ship during the tall ships parade of sail along with my D5100 with the 70-300mm VR lens (left my D700 and my more expensive lenses on dry ground) and it gave me a lot of options. To compare, here's one on Fine Art America that I shot with it - in good light the quality is excellent: http://fineartamerica.com/featured/aboard-the-tyrone-opsail-2012-marianne-campolongo.html The others in my "OpSail 2012 Tall Ships" gallery were shot with the D5100 or the D700 (it was a 4-day event on land and sea so lots of variety) but you can see the P7000 compares favorably if you check out the rest of the photos in that gallery. http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/marianne-campolongo.html?tab=artworkgalleries&artworkgalleryid=189746It also has built-in VR and two macro settings (one in scene mode and one where you can shoot RAW and focus super-close). You can also focus manually if you want. IMHO it's not great above 100 ISO but okay up to 400 with enough light - some reviews say it's good at much higher ISOs but I don't care for the quality. You can use it with a variety of Nikon flashes - I used it to shoot PR photos of a concert indoors for a client on a tripod at ISO 400 that were used by several newspapers including the New York Daily News. I've also taken some great shots at ISO 400 using my Nikon SB-600 flash (that flash unit is the same size as the camera itself but it balanced nicely). I believe it works well with the smaller SB-40 flash unit too. I think the new version is the P7100. It was around $479-499 when I bought it a few years ago. Not a cheap compact but useful. I find if I haven't thrown it into my bag there's often a situation where I wish I had. I love my iPhone for a quick shot when I don't want to lug a DSLR, but the quality of the P7000 is much better. It uses the same battery as my D5100.
1010
« on: September 02, 2013, 17:44 »
Wish I could help. The best I've got is a gorilla picking its nose.
1011
« on: September 02, 2013, 17:27 »
I have 2 on Alamy which they required me to do when I was in the first News/Reportage group they started a couple of years ago. I was also in the earlier "creative" collection (not in this current one), so I had to split the account. I wish I just had one account since it takes longer to reach the $175.00 payout threshold when your sales are split between two accounts, not to mention the fact that it takes 2-6 months (occasionally longer ) for sales to clear there.
I'm curious, why do you want to set up two accounts?
1012
« on: August 23, 2013, 15:55 »
After a slow June & July with returns that I now see are average according to the dls/day/per file etc, SS has come roaring back for me to earn returns of $1.10 per download - not going to make me rich but at least things seem to be back to normal. Uploaded some creative mixed media stuff lately including stuff I've taken on my iPhone and reworked in PS and it was all accepted. Will be interesting to see if it sells. My port is far from traditional microstock so it was good to see that it compares favorably in terms of returns per file and also is more than twice the RPI than the SS average - I guess most of us are earning well above the average return since there are still plenty of photos on there that don't sell at all, but I was worried when after having a fair number of images on page 1 for one-word fairly common search terms, a lot of my work had dropped back by several pages. Close to a BME and there's still a week to go. And my SS stock is earning for me too. Gotta have all the bases covered, greedy stockholder that I am
1013
« on: August 23, 2013, 04:02 »
When I get a reject from SS I usually offer it to DT exclusively. It's worked out well. Some of those files have earned me a substantial amount.
Sometimes SS makes mistakes but it is weird how it will be a whole bunch that are rejected at once. I rarely get rejections from SS but I had three images - my entire submission - rejected last week for "poor lighting." They were sunset images (with interesting foregrounds, silhouettes, nice water reflecting the light, etc.). I may resubmit them in a couple of weeks. The point is though, the "lighting" was not poor. It was beautiful. I wonder sometimes if it's just a lazy reviewer who doesn't even bother to look at some in order to just get through their quota of images for the day.
1014
« on: August 23, 2013, 03:50 »
Way better deal for us than the getty/google deal. We'll get paid for each use and people don't actually access the files, guess FB will pay SS and they collect for the "free" photos as part of their ad revenues. This is why SS is earning money and iStock is having a tough time. It sounds like a really workable way to take advantage of revenue opportunities.
I don't imagine many people buy photos to use on FB (I've collected from infringers who took work from my site for their FB pages, but don't see people actively seeking out stock for FB so this taps into a market that wasn't really there before). Since the uses are limited to thumbnails via the FB interface, it could lead people who want to use the image for other advertising over to SS to license photos they like for other non-FB marketing and advertising. Could be a win-win.
1016
« on: August 02, 2013, 13:56 »
In the few months that I've owned SSTK stock, I'm up over 27%, netting more than I've made from SS since I started with them. I guess if Yuri were an investor he'd be paying closer attention to how the stock is actually performing. But even if SSTK went down 12% tomorrow, I'd still be ahead of the game. And if iS beats out SS, all my eggs aren't in one basket. In fact, stock is just one small portion of my photo income. Yuri's on another planet as far as the size of his portfolio, the kind of work he produces, and his ability to negotiate a deal, so what he does, while it's interesting in a general what's happening in the stock photo world? kind of way, it doesn't affect my choices. I didn't really learn much about shooting stock until I joined SS and saw downloads nearly every day, even early on with a very tiny portfolio. It showed me what kind of stuff worked for me and confirmed that when I shoot what I enjoy it actually sells. I don't love all the changes there but the site runs well, they pay me on time without my having to ask them to, they report earnings nearly instantaneously, they answer emails and even the telephone, and they can even do math! On a gut level, I hate the subscription model, but SS knows how to make it work. Yuris welcome to hype his work and look out for himself. I don't really get the anger here. He's styled himself as the world's leading stock photographer for years now, so why should the size of his ego surprise or infuriate anyone? Bad grammar and poor spelling are the bane of the internet, though you'd think someone on his staff could read and write English. If he's looking to take over Getty or iS from the inside I wish him all the luck in the world, but I doubt that's the ace up his sleeve. I'm afraid he's just scrambling like the rest of us, wondering when the hordes with their iPhones are going to muscle in on our business, and trying to keep the cash cow running for a few more years. Printing fine art or shooting a print campaign is one thing, but iPhone photos can look great on the web - in fact, I've seen them blown up as huge printed panoramas with surprising quality. I'll stick with my DSLRs for the most part, but I do love having a camera with me all the time that doesn't weigh a ton. For something that's a phone, a mini-computer (with more power than my first HP), a game console, magazine rack, mini-kindle, and camera rolled into one, it takes pretty good pictures. But then, if youll pardon my ego, I'm the one pushing the button.
1017
« on: August 01, 2013, 15:51 »
July 2012 was only a good month for me due to a large direct stock photo sale, and July 2013 was ok for the same reason, so I can't really complain, but I am concerned that stock sales are becoming more and more unpredictable.
I did okay with my own direct stock photo sales and with FAA this month (echoes of last July), but micro sales were bizarre compared to the usual outcome. On the micro front, DT was my best, followed very closely by iStock (where I have 1/3rd as many images as on DT and SS), followed by a dismal SS (SS earned me nearly as much as the others, but that's about 50% of what I'd come to expect until this recent downturn, hence "dismal"). Fotolia and Bigstock aren't even worth mentioning. Alamy is starting to feel like a waste of time without a single sale higher than $29.00 since March 2013. I sure miss the old days. Of course, a couple big sales there and I'll be happy with them again. That's the upside of RM/trad RF.
I anticipated a downturn at DT due to continued sub sales eroding all my level 4 and 5s and at iStock since my best-selling photo+ images are now stuck in the Main collection, but sales at both grew this month.
Payouts from 3 of the micros plus FAA (which is always a nice thing). Just wish I'd waited for partner program sales and an extended license to come in at iS before putting in my payment request.
1018
« on: August 01, 2013, 15:09 »
Second BMY for me on DT in July.
I too hate seeing my level 5 images sell as subs but this month a continued increase in the volume of sales kept me on track.
After a terrible drop off some months back am seeing sales and income growth there again. I haven't added anything new there in a while and had started adding fewer files there than I would on SS and iS to avoid my images competing with each other for levels, but may add a couple of similars (different angles of the same item - not too similar) going forward given the new pricing paradigm there now. Last year I saw RPD's some months of $3-4.29, this year I'm averaging $2, so I need to sell 1.5-2x more just to stay even. I have a lot of level 4 and 5 images so the sub sales are hurting my bottom line - not sure what effect the new credit packs will have. Will have to see going forward - it could increase RPD if it means less subs.
Ultimately, I'm more concerned with my monthly net and my RPI rather than my RPD since a high RPD with low sales volume can earn me less than a low RPD with high sales volume - but the RPD was a fair indicator of how I was moving up in terms of percentage of high level files. Now, the lower RPD is more a reflection of a large increase in sub sales rather than a falling RPI. So, it's really not as useful an indicator anymore.
Discouraged by pricing but somewhat encouraged by overall growth there.
1019
« on: July 09, 2013, 22:05 »
With a small port there I don't make payout that often, but it figures that as of last week I could request one - I don't really mind too much being paid a week later but it does make me nervous when something like this happens.
Maybe it's just that I get payouts from them regularly, but I prefer SS, every month when you make the minimum, you get paid. No request needed.
1020
« on: July 02, 2013, 17:00 »
Next time my husband works on in the yard I'll have to photograph his arm a few days later - with and without the calamine lotion.
You've gotten some great answers to your question - if walking around a city with your camera isn't a great idea - take a walk around your house - try different perspectives of objects in their regular setting. Good luck!
1021
« on: July 02, 2013, 16:52 »
Both DT and iStock wouldn't let me post editorial images I took indoors at an event even when I offered to send them my press credentials for the event. The images have been selling on SS for years (they had them exclusively for two years since they helped me get the press pass through On the Red Carpet). The event wasn't all that exciting but I was able to get some good editorial stuff that has been used in a few books - from one on Acting to a few Fodor's Travel guides - and they still sell years later. To answer your question, Editorial images can be anything from straight news, to portraits of well known people, to travel scenes (with and without people) to insects and other natural phenomena that can be used to illustrate either news or feature articles or something in a book. It's not a way to get in a portrait that you don't have a model release for, unless that person happens to be in a beautiful travel destination doing something that a travel publisher would be interested in. I wrote a blog article a while back entitled "Is this travel photography?" which shows that the editorial uses of your photographs can be surprising - it even discusses the photos I mentioned above. I hope you find it helpful - here's the direct link: http://travelstockphotos.blogspot.com/2012/06/im-often-surprised-at-where-my-stock.html
1022
« on: July 02, 2013, 16:07 »
My PP sales have exceeded my regular sales the last couple of months.  that subs are doing better with iS - at least for this non-exclusive - than anything else. Without my P+ photos - which accounted for most of my regular iS sales, it's not going to be a pretty picture.
1023
« on: July 01, 2013, 13:32 »
1024
« on: July 01, 2013, 12:22 »
There's good news and bad news for me this month:
The : Thanks to a direct stock photo sale last June (2012), that had been my BME until April 2013 topped it. This June has beaten last June by 35% thanks to another direct license to a large publisher, as well as a nice sale on FAA (even if I don't count the $189 - net to me - from the print sale of one of my editorial stock images on FAA, I still top last June, making this my third BME for stock photo sales).
The : Alamy is half what it was last June (but it's so erratic for me there since licensing fees vary so widely), SS is slightly up from last June but just barely and still at about 50% of what I had been anticipating given strong growth there in late 2012-early 2013 (i.e., it's even with last's month's underperformance), DT is more than double last June and actually neck-and-neck with SS, but half what it was before they started knocking down the sub prices for levels 4 & 5.
The : iS is double last June even without PP, but my port there is so tiny (<45 photos), so even huge jumps up & down aren't significant given my small numbers. The amounts earned on fotolia and bigstock aren't even worth mentioning, though I'm getting a payout from fotolia this month, so that's a .
1025
« on: July 01, 2013, 04:08 »
Which file is worth 10x the other file? http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-2493233-united-states-flag.php?st=c805381 or http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-2388290-beautiflul-huge-us-flag.php?st=f2a69da
The idea of self-curating the collection to a degree (self-promoting to P+ / E+) was one of the few things that IS had done right the last several years. So naturally they remove that and replace it with an idiotic algorithm that can't tell an ordinary but lucky high-selling file from a higher quality and/or more unique file.
What they should have done instead was to continue to allow contributors to promote files to a higher level, but also allow them to demote* files to a lower level. Contributors know better than any algorithm ever could what is best for their files. If the concern was that files were changing price suddenly (laughable considering what's been going on the last few weeks), then limit the ability to change. But don't take away the one thing that was actually working and smart about IS.
* I guess that applies to exclusives only, allowing them to demote down to the Main collection.
I have a small port at iStock but seemed to get a chance to move pix to P+ pretty often and every time I moved one of my photos to P+ it sold MORE often rather than less often. The number of sales as well as what I made each time the photo was licensed would increase significantly. All my P+ photos turned into my best-sellers, even if they hadn't sold much (or even at all) on iS before becoming P+. Now they are dumped into the Main collection and while still selling, my share is about 1/3rd less ( "Large" files are selling for less than "Medium" size files were in May). My guess is that most buyers work for companies that already have plans with iS and these employees don't care if a photo costs them $5 or $10 more, but my loss of $1 or more on every sale will add up well before their $5 savings per photo becomes noticeable. Meantime, their bosses will start to care if they're spending $10 for two photos one week and $400 for two photos the next week. Making the Main collection cost less only serves to highlight the highest prices. Wouldn't it make more sense to raise all prices? In business, rule #1 is that if you're selling fewer items, you need to charge more per item. So frustrating.
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