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1001
cool. thanks for sharing!

1002
Shutterstock.com / Re: How can the SS database grow so fast?
« on: June 09, 2018, 23:38 »
I already spent some time sending emails to the SS complaining about these portfolios with almost the same images. Do you know what they answered?

"If you do not like the images use the search filter."

Simple like that.
The SS is behind these portfolios.

This is ridiculous. A joke to be very honest.

Don't worry about it.

It'll come down to money. If/when other people start "copying" this guy, and then shutterstock has portfolios of poeple wioth "1 million" images each, with virtually identical content - and customers complain and threaten to go elsewhere - *then* they will do something about it. Not any time before.

If indeed for the time being they are letting it 'ride' - sounds like they just want bragging rights for being the biggest portfolio site on earth. Once they've gotten that, then they will clean things up.


1003
Shutterstock.com / Re: How can the SS database grow so fast?
« on: June 07, 2018, 12:06 »
This is one of the stunning portfolios I've ever seen. Not because of how good it is, but how dedicated the contributor is. This is passion in its purest form. I have no choice but to admire it.
He just sets a 3D model and a camera with an helicoidal movement around it.
Then he starts the rendering and go to sleep.
The following morning he has 2000 frames ready to keyword and upload
:D

Thing is, keywords were probably auto-generated, as well as the uploads. So he just goes to sleep, wakes up, says 'ooh! portfolio of 260,000 images!'

1004
Shutterstock.com / Re: How can the SS database grow so fast?
« on: June 07, 2018, 11:32 »
The evidence is no they won't look and delete and supposedly images are inspected makes you wonder if some people have a "back door".
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All that will happen is just 1-2 customers will have to complain, and say 'what is this', and then 'poof', portfolio gone...

1005
Shutterstock.com / Re: How can the SS database grow so fast?
« on: June 07, 2018, 01:43 »
PPS, ss says:

"199,570,752 royalty-free stock images / 1,392,424 new stock images added this week"

So his 260,000 "photo" portfolio is 0.13% of shutterstocks entire portfolio! OR... if he uploaded it all this week, 19% of the entire upload. Maybe only '4' people uploaded "photos" this week, and each did 260,000+! :)

1006
Shutterstock.com / Re: How can the SS database grow so fast?
« on: June 07, 2018, 01:39 »
Lol, quite funny actually!

But what it looks like is it was 100% automated. I *highly* highly doubt he manually submitted those. He probably did spend at least 2-3 hours creating the content. But pushing a button did the rest. For generation, it looks like a 3D model, which he 'slightly' tweaked/moved by 1 degree, just pushed a button, and submitted 26,000+ photos.

I am sure he is dominated the "POS" market. Lol, really quite funny.
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/percom -> 260,000+ images.

It's actually really quite hilarious.

HOWEVER, I don't think you have to worry about it. Shutterstock can play the same game - and they'll look and (eventually) say 'hmm, who has a portfolio of 260,000 photos of almost nearly identical content'? And then all they have to do is push 1 button, "delete", and his entire portfolio is gone.

Most companies have a low tolerance for what they perceive as spam, and it's just a matter of time until shutter stock does something about that. Even though he 'only' spent 2-3 hours (maybe actually 10-20 hours) - he will be quite upset when his account is deleted, and/or most of the images gone somewhere down the road...

1007
Hmm, okay, thanks for the feedback. I think I am 'starting' to 'get' it. :)

1008
Hmm, okay - 'kind' of making a bit more sense - but can you give me an example of a specific color change (i.e., say premiere pro) - where it would look bad in one but good in the other? I do editing myself (on both say 50kpbs, and 10kpbs) - and for the most part - looks identical.

The 'only' time I would say notice a difference is if you had gradients (i.e., a timelapse with a blue sky). *Then* yes, I admit I definitely notice the 'banding' on a lower kpbs/more compressed item...

1009
Speaking of which - can someone please explain to me the advantage of a 'higher' bit rate?

I have a large monitor (25") as well as large TV (60") - and if I view HD/4K video on them at say 20MPS as opposed to 150MPS - they look pretty much identical to me.

So I don't get/see the advantage of a higher bit rate.

1010
Personally, what I think is happening is this.

It has nothing to do with content "kicking" in on the agency site. They have their algorithm, and it does whatever it does. You could have a clip listed there 10 years, and you aren't going to get any extra special ranking for simply having a clip there. (They may rank you higher if you make sales, etc - but not simply because you have a clip in their library).

What it is - is this. They are simply getting more people to their site through "google". Google search takes about 2-3 months (sometimes faster) to get indexed. If, once your clip gets indexed by *google* - you appear in *google* search - and then someone searches for your video, and then goes to a video site to get it (and doesn't simply decide to sign up for their membership program) - *then* you get a sale.

Aside from a few speciality sites (i.e., envato) - I don't think your sales have anything to do with the agency trying to promote you. (In fact, it appears they really don't care which clip sells - as long as *something* sells because then they get a cut of that). It's just simply because someone looked for something in google, decided they liked your image/video over what was presented on the hard sell to sign up for a membership, and decided to purchase it.

1011
What exactly are you referring to/which program to participate in?

Yes - I had been hearing (reading) great things about how pond5 was so great, so signed up - spent hours and hours uploading videos (several thousand) - and a month or so later, jsut 0 sales...

Yes, it's clear WHY they did it.  It's always been their business model.

BUT people still show up here asking how and why their sales suddenly stopped.  The why has always been known. The how is that one day last year they flipped a switch to hide the marketplace collection, making our work invisible unless the customer flipped the switch back to the old default.

Yes, absolutely, fully agree with you. Just wanted to clarify some things.

The switch in combination with a now much bigger membership library results in very few people feeling the need to flip the switch back.

And furthermore, what does decreasing marketplace sales do to the sellers? Naturally, it makes it more likely that they will now say "yes" to a buyout... And so on, until the membership library is good enough to outcompete the rest.
I perfectly agree.
But even worse is the fact that something very similar is happening at Pond 5 with their membership program, which was much amplified only a couple of month ago.
Last year only the contributors left out of the membership were squeezed out, as the participating members were pushed up in the search rankings, but now everyone is complaining of very poor sales in their forum.
They did it in a very clever way: even the members who did not want to participate had no choice, as they knew that they would have been squeezed out of the search engine

1012
Photo Critique / Re: Timelapse videos
« on: May 16, 2018, 16:45 »
Looks like you have some nice timelapses! What did you do to add 'motion' to them?

1013
General Stock Discussion / Re: so... pond5 sales??
« on: May 14, 2018, 07:29 »
Yes, I just noticed that literally 'overnight'.

Chances are - it is just 'robots' scraping their website (i.e., 'new' search engines, etc), which is being counted as views. Probably not a real person.

1014
General Stock Discussion / Re: do you audit your agencies?
« on: May 13, 2018, 08:36 »
Purchasing your own product - or having a friend "purchase" your own product to test the integrity of the system is not artificially inflating downloads. It's a real download.

But regardless - it is rather interesting. Sounds like some companies are afraid they'd be found out for not crediting all sales.

Don't buy your own stuff you could be booted for that.

Why would they boot you for that? Are some agencies afraid that you'd find out you weren't been credited? It makes no sense...

It's in their terms.
From SS
Shutterstock has the right to refuse to establish an account or to close any existing account, for fraud, intellectual property infringement, violation of a third party's rights including those of privacy or publicity, artificially inflating downloads,

1015
General Stock Discussion / Re: do you audit your agencies?
« on: May 13, 2018, 08:10 »
Don't buy your own stuff you could be booted for that.

Why would they boot you for that? Are some agencies afraid that you'd find out you weren't been credited? It makes no sense...

1016
While I am 'relatively' new to this video/photo game - a lot of people recommend submitting to the sites on the right, in the order listed. I haven't yet submitted to the top 3 (so I could be potentially missing out on a lot of sales at the moment) - but - those are the sites you could start with.

The time consuming aspect is titling, keywording, and editing your video clips.

Hmm 5d Mark IV - I "suppose" thats an "okay" camera :)

What kind of footage do you have?

1017
General Stock Discussion / do you audit your agencies?
« on: May 12, 2018, 23:26 »
Curious...

Do you audit the agencies you submit to? In most cases - you have to take their word for how many sales you get, etc, because there are no type of 3rd party analytics you can use on those sites.

So do you ever say have yourself or a friend place an order for an image or video, to see whether you actually get credit for that sale? (In other words, if you do a random test - and you get a sale, chances are the agency is legit. But if you do a random test - and nothing shows up - maybe you aren't getting credited with everything?)

1018
Really depends on a lot of things.

a) It seems most sites now prefer as a minimum HD footage (1920x1080). So if it's not that, except in special circumstances (i.e., unique historical/archival footage), probably won't be accepted.
b) Raw is what most people seem to upload - although I've seen some remarkable footage that I know obviously has been edited. I'd say understand what people want. If they want raw, give them raw. But if you think they'd like properly color graded clips, etc, then give them that.

1019
General Stock Discussion / Re: so... pond5 sales??
« on: May 12, 2018, 09:39 »
Ah..... thanks for the FYI re: the seo... makes sense. I am thinking I can/could probably tweak my seo even a bit more then/make it better/etc.

It's been a bit of an "interesting" journey so far. Much more (initial) work than I expected, but hoping to see good results sales-wise. I enjoyed doing the photography/videos anyways, but obviously would like to see sales too :)

1020
General Stock Discussion / Re: so... pond5 sales??
« on: May 12, 2018, 07:36 »
Thanks. I don't yet have a portfolio at shutterstuck or fotolia, so I don't know.

Pricing, I thought $150 for 4k and $75 for HD was okay, but not sure if I should make it lower. (I know some people use the defaults of $25 & $50, so am competing with that).

SEO - I 'think' it's okay, but really don't know. (Did the keywording, descriptive titles, etc).

My content is unique. Similars - there are a few 'themes' but no - most of the content is not similar. If I had to guess - if you called 'similar' say taking a picture of a subject from the front, then from the side - as being 'similar' - then maybe 10-20%.

I've just recently finished uploading my portfolio elsewhere (apparently 'low earner' sites, haven't yet done the top 3) - and 'recent' meaning the last 1-2 months - so - it really depends on the site. I have gotten "some" sales - but in terms of "profit" - "maybe" between $20-$50/site. (But I've been working on this solid for 6 months - the keywording/cropping/videoing/etc - so $20-$50 seems very very low).

1021
General Stock Discussion / so... pond5 sales??
« on: May 11, 2018, 22:18 »
OKay, I may be relatively new to pond5... only there about a month... portfolio size of several thousand videos... how long should it take to start seeing sales? Right now, just looking at '0'...

1022
Yeah... wow.

In some ways - I guess I can "see" how it might be beneficial... but... I guess this is why/where people are getting the $0.02 commissions, etc...

1023
Depends what your use is, and whether you are concerned about paying for bandwidth (if your host charges for it).

Since it is relatively speaking 'cheap' to host large images, you might as well do that. Benefit is sharper images with less lossiness (depending on compression algorithm) if someone zooms in on your picture.

1024
The reason the photos are of people staring... it because science *********IS******** about staring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And looking... And staring... And looking...

Or rather - that is the 'unique' aspect of lab work...

If you had a picture of a scientist surfing the internet playing a facebook game, it doesn't have the same effect. Or, if you had them chatting with friends at the water cooler, doesn't have the same effect...

1025
Thanks, very interesting.

A couple of points:
I don't see any privacy problem, no more that the ones you could have in traditional agencies that own your ID card, transactions, earnings history ecc.
I don't believe your data will be digitally printed in every image, there should be a "pseudo" name with a unique hash, and after this noone can look in your wallet to see how much you earn.
That means probably a little more privacy than traditional agencies.

Other point: if they get 15% of every transaction, it means that is in their interest to push the market side, because they will earn more. So I don't believe that the business is only or mostly for financial reason, if it would in this way there could be simply no fees and 100% for authors (according to you, the company will be however very rich)

If other companies will arrive lowering their fee to 10% or 5%, well this is only a good news for us: it's exactly the opposite of what happens from years, where agency gives to contributors less and less

re: privacy - difference here is agencies supposedly keep that information private. this one tags every single image with your name (not pseudonym, according to their site). And right on their site they do say they tag every image. Not a hash. But the actual details. And have your personal ID to back it up. And so yes - someone can look at your wallet, trace it, and see precisely how much you earn.

For the market site - while yes it is true they are interested in transactions - they are more interested in the 'velocity' of transactions. They don't care if you make money or not - what they care about is you buying/selling/buying/selling their coins. And because the price of the coin will most likely be volatile just like bitcoin, etc - you'll have a coin one day worth $200, and the next day worth $50, so a photographer say with 100 coins might think "cool! I'm rich, 100 * 200 = $20,000". And then the next day, those same 100 coins only worth $5,000. And you'll most likely get more panicked photographers, so more likely to sell then say try and hold.

So basically - they will most likely be encouraging lots of buying/selling/buying/selling, and each time that happens - they take 15%.

Because they are doing that though - it will most likely keep the price of the coin low. I.e., every time there is some "inflation" (more demand for the coin, and people willing to pay more for it) - they skim 15% off the top, and all of the sudden the coin is worth less.

So, ultimately, with most things like this... I think the investors will get rich (i.e., $50 million+ each). A few photographers (by luck, portfolio size, being the first in, etc, etc) will get "relatively speaking" rich (between $20k-$400k). And then everyone else will make maybe $100-$200/month from it, if they chose to continue using it, and they don't mind each image being tagged with their ID, and customers don't mind their entire purchase history being completely transparent...


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