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1051
« on: April 26, 2011, 02:28 »
Have you seen agencies changing after your suggestions and discussions on forums?
"Yes, I have seen agencies raise the rates they were paying contributors, and improve contributor conditions in other ways based on comments and suggestions in the forums."
I'm not doubting you, but which agencies? Thanks for letting us know about what it's like on Pixmac :-)
1052
« on: April 26, 2011, 01:32 »
Yes they do. They have to be news type though, they don't seem to be looking for images with a long life span, like DT, ss and 123rf. Eg. they rejected the first image below of an annual festival in India and could sell for the next 100 years. But accepted the second pic. of a tournament which lasted 1 week, plus Tennis players also have a limited time at being famous. Also, don't send them any editorial pics. with kids in them. Cutcaster's world only has adults in it. 
1053
« on: April 25, 2011, 22:33 »
I prefer to ignore manually, it feels much better! 
I hate that, especially when my wife does it. 
I had one of those (wife, that is); she told me her "needs were not being met", I told her to drop some of her needs.
I guess I was one of the needs that got dropped. 
Haha, that gave me the biggest laugh. I used to be ignored by 2 people, but one of them started listening to me again. I keep shouting, break plates, that kind of thing, but he/she still ignores me.
1054
« on: April 25, 2011, 14:14 »
So, where was problem with "Contributor collective" topic?
well.. I was a little uncertain about that locked thread (still am I suppose), and agree it may have been premature, but it seemed to just be flipping back and forth between complaining about who was or wasn't invited, why that was OK or not and arguing about a certain members actions and what actually happened. I can't say that Dan's decision to throw in the preverbial forum towel didn't push me towards locking it either. .. that's not to say Dan ask me to lock it, rather the contrary.. I asked him what he thought about me locking it, but he didn't really care either way, but I thought since he wasn't planning on being around I could just as well lock it.
fair point!
1055
« on: April 25, 2011, 11:08 »
But you just can't stop it though, there are too many of us already clambering in to try and get in to Stockfresh as it is. If some of us take your view point, it doesn't stop everyone else from piling in.
The fact that you're correct doesn't make it any less exasperating. Just to keep getting the same pathetic dribble of money we're getting now, we'll have to submit to more and more sites, each paying less and less as they compete on nothing but price. More uploading, keywording, categories, rejections. At this point it's just insanity. The only way it would start making sense would be if these agencies actually differentiated themselves in meaningful ways, such that the total market was growing.
Microstock, and 'crowdsourcing' in general, is a textbook example of what's called the "tragedy of the commons". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
haha they might as well copy paste this in to the wiki page on microstock. "multiple individuals, acting independently and rationally consulting their own self-interest, will ultimately deplete a shared limited resource even when it is clear that it is not in anyone's long-term interest for this to happen." My mind boggles to what microstock will be like in 10 years time or even 5.
1056
« on: April 25, 2011, 10:48 »
We could always just submit to macros. All the microstock agencies are becoming more about subscriptions. They all want a piece of Shutterstock's pie. It wouldn't be wise for an agency not to have subs, when the other agencies have them.
Well, that's what I'm wondering. We all complain about IS driving it down to 22 cents, and wonder if Shutterstock is steadily herding all their buyers to subscriptions, and talk about how subscriptions are the nail in the coffin. Should we be getting behind StockFresh if it's just going to be a clone of Shutterstock? What's the point in helping them siphon off some small portion of Shutterstock's business, just so we have the hassle of submitting to more sites and can start getting our 35 cents from another source?
Yes, u make a convincing argument actually. But you just can't stop it though, there are too many of us already clambering in to try and get in to Stockfresh as it is. If some of us take your view point, it doesn't stop everyone else from piling in. I know some people who refuse to upload to ss because it's mostly a sub site, however they only lose revenue because of it. It's all going to get siphoned off eventually and we'll be blaming the sites, when it was actually us who nailed the coffin because of uploading. It's catch 22 in a way though.
1057
« on: April 25, 2011, 10:24 »
Ok I'm trying to get excited about StockFresh. I look at their site and see that it says "We believe in fair compensation and fair pricing." And right next it that it says "subscription packages - 35 cents per download".
I couldn't find that...
http://stockfresh.com/info/contributors
Do we want to contribute to the success of yet another 35 cent subscription site?
We could always just submit to macros. All the microstock agencies are becoming more about subscriptions. They all want a piece of ss's pie. It wouldn't be wise for an agency not to have subs, when the other agencies have them.
1058
« on: April 25, 2011, 09:27 »
Just seen ur post, hence the late reply. I think a lot of them are former or current submitters. But I think you would probably have to be a good contributor and by that I mean, never to have caused any kind of stir in a forum, which probably counts out most of us who post on msg. I did see an ad recently for microstock reviewer positions based in Australia, I have no idea what company it was though, as the ad was through an agency. I wrote a blog on the ad. as it just made me laugh, as it just seemed that anyone who likes photography could get the job. The link is below. The ad is offline now, but I replaced the link on the blog with a jpg image of the ad. http://www.microstockposts.com/become-a-microstock-image-reviewer/
1059
« on: April 25, 2011, 08:54 »
it's just me ... posting under the admin account instead of this account.
I think u should change it to 'Big Brother'. Just kidding Leaf..
1060
« on: April 24, 2011, 23:18 »
Ok I'm trying to get excited about StockFresh. I look at their site and see that it says "We believe in fair compensation and fair pricing." And right next it that it says "subscription packages - 35 cents per download".
I couldn't find that..but there are a lot of pages and I just went to the homepage. I did find in the 'why shop with us' widget, "We take pride in the fact that our photographer commissions are among the highest in the industry. If you shop with us, your money goes to the right place to those who work hard to deliver these great images." Which sounds good. I should really start submitting more to them (I managed to sneak in somehow), as it may be a good investment for the future, the only thing is they don't accept much of what I send, I've sent 92, but only 27 accepted. They have gone in to the Big agency philosophy on accepting images, I guess you have to think big to be successful, but new agencies need images. I was shopping on DepositPhotos recently, they have 3 million images now and I can pretty much find everything I need, but on agencies with 500,000 to a million photos, I don't know why buyers would go there instead of the others. edit: replaced wrong word
1061
« on: April 24, 2011, 13:32 »
the banner has been following me everywhere, although I think it's taken a break for the Easter weekend. Nice to see it though.
1062
« on: April 22, 2011, 02:17 »
I finally hit $10,000 on Shutterstock!

That's brilliant Matt! And you dance really well too :-)
1063
« on: April 22, 2011, 01:41 »
I probably have a 90% rejection rate for my regular rf stuff (which sell more for me), but probably 90% acceptance rate for editorial stuff. So basically it's only worth me sending editorial now.
1064
« on: April 21, 2011, 10:49 »
And what about this: "Your image is not in focus or focus is not located where we feel it works best.", when you have a picture with blur background and people in focus?  Someone has to tell them about DOF!
Lol!
1065
« on: April 19, 2011, 05:03 »
so the website is not itchy anymore?
Yeah the site is not online anymore, shame they could have had fun with marketing. Got an itch for photos? Get scratching at scratchstock.com
1066
« on: April 18, 2011, 09:23 »
DT has completely died for me this month, just 3 sales and subs too, I can't remember it being so slow.
1067
« on: April 18, 2011, 04:50 »
Manchester City beat Manchester United 1-0 in the FA Cup Semi-Final. Get in.
AND yore telling me this when Im an ARSENAL supporter!!!!! sigh!
haha, I'm a Liverpool supporter, but when they played Arsenal last night, I was supporting Arsenal. I think you know the reason why. I couldn't believe we got a penalty in the last second and a large part of me wanted Kuyt to miss, but he scored. Sorry about that.
1068
« on: April 17, 2011, 03:27 »
Paypal has been calling me trying to get me to give them my info, and I keep telling them to heck off, since I had less than 200 transactions, and my payments aren't for goods or services.
I received a text message from paypal, which said considering the lack of activity in my account would I consider switching over to Moneybookers.
1069
« on: April 14, 2011, 12:05 »
1070
« on: April 14, 2011, 10:56 »
I wake up today at 3pm 
..and so does Kelly.
1071
« on: April 14, 2011, 10:43 »
England will win the next world cup. Oh, that's optimistic, you want positive, um..England won the world cup in 1966.
Now for something positive on microstock
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLzDonjglY0[/youtube]
Brillant! its a model, right?
Yes, I think it's a model. I had a little search on youtube trying to find something positive on microstock , this made me smile, so I guess that is positive.
1072
« on: April 14, 2011, 03:20 »
^^^I don't think it makes any financial sense whatsoever to accept a commission cut from the site that pays by far the lowest commission already. All the other big sites can see that istock can get away with tiny commissions, they will all slash their own commissions. Then istock will just cut commissions again next year or make it even harder to reach the next level.
Tolerating this is going to kill microstock for me. It isn't easy to make money doing this and there's no way I'm going to work harder to make less money each year. If all the sites keep cutting commissions, I will find something else to do.
It's a real shame that we can't all work together to change things, it looks like istock are having real problems and buyers are getting frustrated. I really can't understand why so many non-exclusive contributors are so determined to ruin their future earnings by tolerating the commission cuts and all the other problems we have with the site.
True if they accept 15% from one site they must be prepared to accept it from the others. The other agencies will follow suit in time.
1073
« on: April 14, 2011, 02:58 »
I've always thought (pure speculation) that they have some kind of automated technical review and basically a file just needs to get passed that to get online with them. Because at times they review incredibly fast, something has to be automated there. Maybe a lot of images or videos which are sent are never seen by the human eye.
1074
« on: April 14, 2011, 01:07 »
England will win the next world cup. Oh, that's optimistic, you want positive, um..England won the world cup in 1966.
Now for something positive on microstock
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLzDonjglY0[/youtube]
1075
« on: April 14, 2011, 00:23 »
Well, grass isnt greener over there, just to let you know! and the admins are not on the ball. I supplied 6 Engineering shots to the Getty-RM, only a month back, they should have gone into the main-collection at Stones but by mistake I clicked the wrong button and they ended up it this stupid Photographers-Choice instead. Now they tell me sorry its too late, they cant move them, what a half-assed excuse! cant move them??
I suppose they want the 50 quid per shot, Im not paying a dime, thats it.
As one poster said above, its bad timing to look for anything right now.
That's so bad. What a completely unscrupulous company.
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