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Messages - Jo Ann Snover
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1076
« on: June 10, 2020, 16:30 »
Freepik and ss now have much in common  And yes we must turn off imagery faster, coz they profit 3 times faster.
I have seen now that the group https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285 has a new administrator: a brand ambassador of Freepik!! Unacceptable for me.
The Freepik brand ambassador is gone and Jake is trying to put back together the rift his inclusion started. Jake is a video producer and new-ish to this so didn't have a clue just what a toxic issue Freepik was. He's trying to regroup & move forward.
1077
« on: June 10, 2020, 12:20 »
Didn't he just disable them?
Disabling means that they are not available for licensing/sales but are still kept on the servers, right? So once you re-enable it in the acciun t settings, they should normally come back all, correct?
Not that I'm planning to re-enable my port anytime soon, just for information.
Correct. I did that in 2011 when I left iStock exclusivity & returned to being an independent. All my old accounts were still there, including Shutterstock
1078
« on: June 10, 2020, 00:40 »
A couple Facebook groups to join to link up with folks dedicated to pushing back on the Shutterstock commission cut. We're stronger unified.
Stock Submitter Coalition: https://www.facebook.com/groups/261369748434285/ ...
This is the group that Jake Sorenson started. He'd asked me to help with moderation, which I have been. This evening I removed myself as moderator when I saw (after another member complained about it) that the "Brand Ambasador" for Freepik Antonio Gravante had joined the group and been made an admin by Jake this morning. I want nothing to do with Freepik - my concern is that somehow they are hoping to benefit from all this work leaving Shutterstock. Jake is suggested that no one else was volunteering and Antonio did, so it's all good... If you have an opinion, now'd be a great time to voice it. I think this will split the group
1079
« on: June 09, 2020, 16:02 »
I request my payment at the beginning of each month and am paid regularly.
I think they mean literally from your first sale, so this is a condition that applies only to the first payout and probably is to stop scams where there's masses of downloads of your own content from fake credit cards (or something like that).
1080
« on: June 09, 2020, 11:28 »
1081
« on: June 09, 2020, 11:28 »
They tried to get into the stock licensing business. It made me one license ages ago & nothing since.
1082
« on: June 09, 2020, 11:13 »
...Either way, I'm not coming back unless everything goes back exactly the way it was before OR better. I'll also take better. But for sure won't be accepting even a 1% paycut. No bargaining.
SOOO now you'll have to buy Luigi, the world famous pizza chef, elsewhere 
Do you mind if I tweet about this - with a link to your Adobe Stock portfolio & a screenshot of Luigi from your port there? We have a #NoLongerAtShutterstock and #BoycottShutterstock "promo" campaign going
1083
« on: June 08, 2020, 17:59 »
Saga continues: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKtuS6gN9-FDw7KsUYWazkg/discussion
The Digital Media Licensing Association You Tube account is a channel with 8 subscribers. It really isn't going to make any difference posting there. I'm not even sure that the organization has any heft - i.e. if no one pays any attention to them anyway, why do we care (beyond them giving us that F- presentation from Stan "walk before you can run" Pavlovsky)
1084
« on: June 08, 2020, 16:37 »
It's like herding cats, trying to keep a group of independent stock artists focused & together  I hope that anyone thinking that they can just stay and upload more to make up the difference (someone on the Stock Submitter Coalition said exactly that) does a little math. This is what I posted in reply to them You cannot fix this royalty cut by uploading more. Look at the worst case where you used to get 38 and now you only get 10. You now need an additional 2.8 times the downloads - almost three times your current downloads! Buyers won't want more images - not three times more images anyway - just because Shutterstock slashed royalties. So your only way out of this pickle, if you really believe you can do this, is to be so much better and more relevant than your fellow contributors that you can siphon off their downloads to get the multiple you need to keep your income. Don't even think about growing your income - you'll do well to just run in place. Do the math. You can't outrun this
1087
« on: June 08, 2020, 00:15 »
I disabled my portfolio May 31/June 1 and have left my portfolio name and message alone.
If anyone wants to find my work they can google my name and the other agency sites will show up, so there's no need to direct anyone there. I am putting plugs for the other agencies into the tweets about #BoycottShutterstock, but that's it.
Arguably, a series of empty portfolio pages - a ghost town of names with no portfolios - might be an even more potent message. No one likes to eat in an empty restaurant - it feels weird; licensing images on a site where content from your lightbox isn't there any more and there are bunches of empty portfolio pages sends a loud and clear message to buyers.
1088
« on: June 07, 2020, 15:09 »
How this guy can actually talk so much utter rubbish for 20 minutes is mind numbing.
You're too kind  He's such a dull presenter too. I do have a file with some priceless quotes though. Sounds like he saw a few strategy presentations after finishing his MBA and just regurgitated word salad. Disruption blah blah blah platform economy blah blah blah engagement is the primary metric blah blah blah This is him
1090
« on: June 07, 2020, 10:02 »
I can't disable my portfolio as it's already disabled  We can keep harping on about the declining collection numbers - in spite of those who are still uploading (I looked at some this morning; the collection shrinks *in spite of* new uploads). This will capture all those who have already disabled their portfolios as well as those doing so June 15th
1091
« on: June 06, 2020, 23:45 »
I was wandering through the Wayback Machine to get some front-page counts of Shutterstock's images and "added weekly" numbers from earlier this year. I was very surprised when I saw a big drop - 12,701,237 - on the afternoon of Feb 27 2020 That morning, the site said Over 324,469,880 royalty-free images with 1,337,489 new stock images added weekly. around 4pm it dropped to Over 311,768,643 royalty-free images with 1,540,041 new stock images added weekly. It then continued a steady climb up until recently  I wondered if there was some sort of contract that ended and they couldn't renew? It's such a big number. This was not a one-day fluke; the numbers for the prior month had been climbing up from 319,604,978 on February 1 to 322,242,058 on Feb 15th and so on. And as far as #BoycottShutterstock, one way to look at where we are today, is that we've wound the clock back to May 9th (so far). Or to Feb 23rd (when it was about the same number)
1092
« on: June 06, 2020, 17:55 »
I've read so many times that contributors thought nothing was happening until January 1 and then were horrified when they saw what was going on with June royalties.
The sharp slap in the face of 10 or 12 royalties for people who were feeling good 'cause they were level 4, 5 or 6 and thought they could ride out the year before deciding anything had a pretty dramatic effect.
That's very understandable i think. Just by reading the mail i also though it was going to be a raise for now. As it said i will get 35%, and it was known that Shutterstock used to pay out around 30% buyers' payments to contributors. (including subscriptions). The email did not state that we won't be compensated for unused subscription quotas. So i thought i would get an around 16% pay rise till the end of the year, and a the first part of next year will be a bit worse
From the Shutterstock forums on May 26th, the day the email came out, by getting some questions answered, the picture was clear (Kate, the moderator, updated the original posts to spell out the details) that day for anyone who wanted to see. I've used screen grabs as some of my other posts were deleted and one never knows what may get "disappeared" over time
1093
« on: June 06, 2020, 15:31 »
I've read so many times that contributors thought nothing was happening until January 1 and then were horrified when they saw what was going on with June royalties.
The sharp slap in the face of 10 or 12 royalties for people who were feeling good 'cause they were level 4, 5 or 6 and thought they could ride out the year before deciding anything had a pretty dramatic effect.
1094
« on: June 06, 2020, 11:48 »
...On about June 2/3, it became apparent that content was declining faster than it was increasing. Possibly for the first time since SS came into business (This is an assumption, not an investigated fact)
I've been keeping track since the evening of June 2nd. Since then they've lost 1.7 million images (add to that whatever the uploads are which I have no insight into). They are dropping the number day by day that they say they are adding - it was 171,000 a day and now they say 160,400 a day
Numbers remaining 4pm June 5th and the change since 5pm June 2nd. Note that there is some overlap between illustrations and vectors, so the numbers don't add up
Photos 212,156,701 -1,322,077
Illustrations 111,156,382 - 510,107
Vector 69,675,150 - 302,972
All 324,066,312 -1,720,141
Jo Ann, I don't see any video in your report. I think a lot of the videos are also disappearing from their servers. It would be interesting to know how many.
Videos are disappearing, but I haven't been tracking them as I don't sell video  There is a guy who has started collecting data via a bot and has posted the results in the Facebook group Jake Sorenson started. He was tracking just the total, but I asked him about tracking individual content types - because I'd seen some odd times where all the individual types showed a decrease but the total (as shown by shutterstock when you selected "All images") was unchanged. Here are his numbers yesterday evening ==> footage <== Fri Jun 5 04:00 CEST 2020 : 18788305 Fri Jun 5 06:00 CEST 2020 : 18789157 Fri Jun 5 08:00 CEST 2020 : 18780447 Fri Jun 5 10:00 CEST 2020 : 18775951 Fri Jun 5 12:00 CEST 2020 : 18774347 Fri Jun 5 14:00 CEST 2020 : 18774296 Fri Jun 5 16:00 CEST 2020 : 18775593 Fri Jun 5 18:00 CEST 2020 : 18776547 Fri Jun 5 20:00 CEST 2020 : 18777780 Fri Jun 5 22:00 CEST 2020 : 18778295 Sat Jun 6 00:00 CEST 2020 : 18779293 SUM: -9012 So there were 9,012 videos gone in a day
1095
« on: June 06, 2020, 11:43 »
The links work but you can't download the image. Click the download button and you'll see a message "There was an issue with your request. Please try again, or Contact us if you need further assistance"
This just isn't an issue. There is no need to delete images - disabling the portfolio works
Can you tell me if it will be sufficient to rehabilitate the sale for the recovery of the portfolio? Obviously if there were positive news for us collaborators from SS [/quote] I am not sure I understand the question. If the question is whether you can turn your images back on again and resume sales, I did that once before in 2011 after I returned to being independent following 3 years as an iStock exclusive. It worked fine then, and I assume it does not, but my portfolio is currently "off" so I haven't tested it in 2020
1096
« on: June 06, 2020, 11:41 »
Thanks, that probably settles it
Btw..
When I click download I get create your free account note and red username and psw fields event though Im allready logged in as contributor in same browser.
But that window wants you to register as buyer. Buyer and contributor accounts are not connected in any ways
I have a buyer account and a contributor account. You can do both so you can see both sides of the Shutterstock site. I was referring to what happens when logged in to my buyer account
1097
« on: June 06, 2020, 10:15 »
Just disabled everything. It means stock is more or less pointless for me now - well, it has been since June 1, with something like a 60% cut in commission earnings (thanks for the birthday present, SS!)....
Glad to see you - sad it's for this reason. There are lots of charts that explain the new royalties if you care to dig into the details, but the bottom line is that it's a massive royalty cut and they're siphoning off contributor earnings to fund expensive CEOs & other execs, a 17 a share dividend later this month, and better-looking profit numbers to keep Wall Street happy when they announce their Q2 earnings some time in early August. Stan Pavlovsky (new CEO) should go back to being a financial analyst as he's useless as a strategist. I hope Jon Oringer is having sleepless nights wondering if he's turning Shutterstock into another of the failed businesses that he used to say were the only "jobs" he'd had before starting Shutterstock. It's all shameful. Check the #BoycottShutterstock hashtag on twitter if you want to read more about people who are doing what you're doing and disabling their portfolios in protest. There's a chance this may make changes happen, but at least it sends a signal to the remaining agencies that snatching from contributor royalties is a very bad idea
1098
« on: June 06, 2020, 10:07 »
Your image shows up in my buyer's account. So yes, I believe that I'm able to license your image right now if I wanted to.
No - did you try to click the download button? You'll get a message that says "There was an issue with your request. Please try again, or Contact us if you need further assistance"
1099
« on: June 06, 2020, 10:05 »
Just a question...
I disabled my portfolio and if you follow the SS link in my signature you can see that there are no active images there. Also in SS search engine the images dont show up.
But, the links to the images are still working, so the are accessible from pinterest or google search etc.
So I am wondering if they will eventually vanish in a while, are they being counted as active images in SS database, can they still be downloaded?
For example:
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/computer-designed-highly-detailed-grunge-frame-88245046
If the count of my images i already 0 this link shouldn't be working.
What is the situation for you that disabled your portfolio before, are your image links still working ?
The links work but you can't download the image. Click the download button and you'll see a message "There was an issue with your request. Please try again, or Contact us if you need further assistance" This just isn't an issue. There is no need to delete images - disabling the portfolio works
1100
« on: June 05, 2020, 23:18 »
I checked the internet archive's Wayback machine to see if they had anything from his old account, but they didn't (they don't grab twitter feeds as often and he didn't post much). I'd have loved it if we could have kept some screen shots...
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