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Off Topic / Re: The Sky is Falling!
« on: November 10, 2013, 14:10 »
No way the individual odds of being hit are 1 in 3000, with a population of 7B that would mean some 2 million people getting hit. Maybe those are the odds for someone getting hit.

Anyway, I have better things to worry about, like will this be my second 0 download day at SS in the last 3 or 4 years.

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CanStockPhoto.com / Re: Review time?
« on: November 10, 2013, 14:01 »
Seems to be about 5-10 days for me now.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: A list of partner programs
« on: November 10, 2013, 00:43 »
I am just waiting for the 3rd and 4th party sales where we get basically nothing but each site skims their chunk from the sale. come to think of it, unless we knew the original sale location and price we would have no way of knowing that was what happened. ugh.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: My meeting with Shutterstock
« on: November 08, 2013, 11:50 »
Thanks for posting the info. I do wish you had gotten some insight about their plans for BS and the RC system / undercutting.

The keyword / search info is interesting. Thanks.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Stats graphics not updating
« on: November 08, 2013, 02:16 »
Does anyone want to place bets on if we will get the regular stats update before PP sales are reported?

after, who collects the bets? ;D

IS will take up to 85%, so it doesn't much matter.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Stats graphics not updating
« on: November 08, 2013, 01:59 »
Does anyone want to place bets on if we will get the regular stats update before PP sales are reported?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: What Is Midstock?
« on: November 07, 2013, 17:18 »
My sales certainly don't average L size - much smaller. When I start to calculate how much people paid for the sales that get me pennies it just pisses me off though.

I also think that TS and the much cheaper indie content might be a too little too late attempt to choke off the competition and they are willing to take a drastic loss in income to do it.

I think the wholly owned content has to be considered here, since those DL probably don't show in any analysis of contributors and 100% goes to them.

Also you need to consider that "exclusive" might not mean what you think it means.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see TS and others lumped into midstock if they thought that suited the narrative they were spinning. Remember that a lot of this is to make a rosy picture to try to get people to part with their money. I seem to recall bragging about how great sales and profits and projections were out of one side of their mouth while crying poverty and unsustainable out the other.

Interesting to try to back out the real numbers - thanks for posting. I fear the error bars are still very large though.

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This poll also asks if the results could be accurate. That could either be interpreted as is there a way to make the microstock poll results so that they actually are accurate or is there a chance that the results as they are posted could be accurate.

note this poll does not ask if the results are accurate or if they are within any given percentage of accurate only if they could be.

I think that the actual averages are much lower because lots and lots of zero to no earners don't take part. Also a few high earners at a few high earning sites are capped. The actual distribution of earnings probably falls off very quickly with an enormously long tail.

There are all sorts of biases in any self reporting survey. Throw in some people with agendas that could mis-report or report more than once, different media, vectors vs. photos, not selling at a given site, etc. and there is a possibility for the numbers to be pretty far off. Still in general the relative positions seem reasonable to me - SS, IS, FOT, DT, 123 are probably doing better for most people than stockfresh and featurepics and so on.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: How are sales going?- Shutterstock
« on: November 04, 2013, 19:00 »
A pretty good start to a month considering half the days have been weekends so far. My RPD is above that of DT (I guess that says more about the % of subs at DT though).

Last month started pretty weak but finished strong. Things are still a little lower than the good stretch of months I had last year though. There are a few more big sales and a few less regular subs lately.

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123RF / Re: RC Totals Not Updated?
« on: November 04, 2013, 10:43 »
They fixed mine too. Now if they could just double sales as promised or return me to 50%...

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Stats graphics not updating
« on: November 03, 2013, 22:00 »
Next year they will report this years sales some time around July.

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123RF / Re: RC Totals Not Updated?
« on: November 01, 2013, 18:06 »
Mine haven't dropped yet.

Actually this month they might go up.

edit: - but I see that they must have gone down a lot because based on my sub sales I seem to have been dropped down to the lowest level.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Stats graphics not updating
« on: October 31, 2013, 17:00 »
Did they used to update in a timely matter (I don't mean back in the old IS days - but in the last few years)? I always assumed they were 3 or 4 days late, so what is another 3 or 4? Maybe they will change it to report them sometime in the next month.

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Envato / Re: Envato uploading & support
« on: October 30, 2013, 22:06 »
I agree the model release upload is a bit of a pain and different from what other sites do. I just do all of my MR images at one go and then run them through the whole process (at least to the point where they are ready to submit) and then do the other images (or the reverse of the process). I don't think images have ever disappeared from the FTP upload folder without going to the dashboard and getting them processed.

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Your example doesn't make it seem simply pointless at all.  On other sites when you type in "agia triada" you also get all the other 'spam' results, plus you get it with all other words.

You're completely missing the point (deliberately?). On other sites you get Agia Triada (Minoan) results, on iStock, you get no results unless someone has deliberately spammed because iS DOES NOT ALLOW the Minoan Agia Triada site.
I understand what you're saying.  The example is pretty obscure though even wikipedia barely has much information on it and calls it "Hagia Triada".  A search on both Shutterstock and iStock shows maybe 10 images (maybe just 2 on iStock).  You can type in 'agia triada' into the search without choosing a disambiguation and you can enter it into your keywords without selecting a specific meaning also.  If you think about it when you type "agia triada" into a Shutterstock search you have in effect selected all of the meanings (ones you didn't want, the same when you enter it into keywords), I don't think it's too big a deal for some very obscure terms to have this problem.  It can also be fixed if there is a real problem.  This is where contributors and the site can work together to make it better or people can just whine and complain, I know what I chose to do.

Complain about SS?

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I have always maintained that they need to have the CV as well as a "not one of these" options. So if you put in Mt Helen and don't mean Mt St Helens or whatever their CV wants to map it to, you can still include it. Also when someone searches, they can click on "not one of these options". But they didn't do it that way, and in fact the way their search worked last time I tried to use it it actually encourages spamming since otherwise your images don't get seen even if someone tries to search for exactly what is in your image.

The CV is an attempt to solve a real problem, but like so many things at IS, its implementation is pretty poor.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: 2013 RC Targets
« on: October 30, 2013, 10:58 »
They could have easily provided RC for PP and Getty sales if they wanted to, but they want to get payouts down to 20% since that is "sustainable" or whatever.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: 2013 RC Targets
« on: October 30, 2013, 10:09 »
Down. Getty has succeeded in moving sales away from IS.

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I think the bigger problem is the sites appear to be greedy pigs and the race to the bottom is more of a race to the lowest percentage paid to the artists.

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I have heard people say that it is better to put a reasonable to slightly low price on something on CL rather than say free.

Thrift stores need to be able to sell most of what they get. So a used couch might be perfectly good for sitting on, but if they don't think they can sell it (or have a family that needs a couch) then they don't want it.

I am greatly in favor of stuff that you no longer want to use going to someone else who does want to use it though. Much better than filling a landfill.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Massive Refunds
« on: October 28, 2013, 18:30 »
I have had more subs than ever there. (15 out of the last 20). One was a TIFF for $2 though, which was a nice surprise.

The sub and non-sub sales seem to be getting farther and farther apart there.

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I think the sites should be competing more on the "experience" - mainly a search that returns what buyers are looking for as well as not having annoying sized credit packs and seemingly random different priced collections and so on. They should hire some people to start with the most common search terms and hammer the files that show up in it that are spam (possibly the entire ports - that will get spammer's attention) and maybe move down the images that aren't spam but don't belong there. Clean up the first 10 pages or so of the top 1000 search terms and the big buyers could be a lot happier. Of course when they hide my top selling images I'll be bummed.

Unfortunately the sites that appear to be trying to compete most on price, the Getty PP and Bigstock are linked to some of the most lucrative sites so it is hard to starve them of images.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: No views for 2 weeks
« on: October 27, 2013, 20:16 »
I don't think they update views very regularly. Looking at my new images it seems they are at 0 for a while and then one will jump up a bunch (usually just one from each batch) - say to 20 or so, then it won't change again for another few days (meanwhile all the rest are still at 0). After a week or 2 I forget how many views they have so I don't know, except they aren't all 0 anymore.

I had a referral who uploaded one photo, it didn't get very many views, in fact my view might have been the only one in a month or more.

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123RF / Re: Something very wrong with my account!
« on: October 27, 2013, 13:02 »
My stats page looks ok. In fact it looks like I just got my best month this year. Sadly though, it would have been my 6th best month last year. So much for sales doubling (at least in $ for me).

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Have they changed the TOS? How I read them meant that if it was on Pinterest it was free game to use as long as you used it from pinterest so they got the link back. I tried for a few months to put the proper links for some of my images there (linked to IS or nowhere, but no longer there) eventually I gave up because it never worked.

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