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General Stock Discussion / Re: become a full timer?
« on: November 12, 2012, 22:00 »
It seems w/ the microstock cushion you have you could fairly safely explore a more gratifying life path, even if it isn't micro, it seems unlikely that it will cut down to the level of your day job over a few years. It is a bit riskier, especially for example if you were in the US you would want to get good healthcare etc. Still, it seems like you should be able to put away a pretty good next egg w/ 10K a month or whatever you are making between your day job and micro - especially as the micro isn't going to drop to 0 overnight - even if it cut in half, that is still more than your day job.

I lost my job quite a while back (not so stable after all) and went on a roadtrip financed by renting out my place and savings - I ended up not tapping into my savings at all - but I am single and most would consider me insanely stingy - I think my cheapest year I lived on less than you make in a good microstock month. Still, if you have to you could probably do without a lot of the things you consider essential - I guess it really boils down to how is your day job effecting you - if it is as bad as you suggest, you owe it to yourself and everyone around you to explore other possibilities and your micro income gives you some financial freedom to do that.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Why is iStockphoto tanking?
« on: November 01, 2012, 15:22 »
My biggest complaints are about the changes above the dotted line that I signed that the sites have made after I signed there.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: October 2012 Earning Thread
« on: November 01, 2012, 15:15 »
On a side note, did your SS earnings not clear out at the end of the month? Don't they usually start at zero to begin a new month?


I noticed the same thing.

I saw that too, maybe something to do with Sandy?

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Well, I haven't calculated the RC, since it is a bit of a pain and not necessarily correct but just looking at total number of sales for the first 10 months of 2011 to the first 10 months of 2012 I increased 51% (I also increased my port 38% during the same time) - so they are no where near on track to double my sales - in addition I think subs and small sales account for a fair bit of the increase and they have a small impact on the RC total.

123RF really should be reporting RC totals since they are so important to us.

They are also WAY off on their sunny doubling sales statement. In fact they are not performing and I should be able to cut their percentage to increase their motivation and so they can appreciate the predictability and stability of their income off of my images.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: October 2012 Earning Thread
« on: November 01, 2012, 11:19 »
BME (so far) for me. SS had the most DL ever but with enough less EL and OD to keep it from being a BME there. Alamy did quite well - another BME unless things are refunded.  In fact just SS and Alamy made for a decent month - better than last months total.

I have no idea how IS did, but relatively unimportant at this point. Veer also has some reporting issues for me. 

BS was a non EL BME but still a small player. PD was another small fry BME. DT was back up to about average for the last 12 months - better than most of the last 4 or so.

Once I sort out Veer and in a few years if/when the IS and PP income are all reported it should be an even better month.

I think I added around 1% new images to my portfolio of up to 3,000 images. One thing about the port growth vs income growth is at some point you should hit some sort of steady state and if your work to produce new images isn't too onerous you are making a pretty good income at this (although it might be some time before past work is fully recouped).

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: PP Sales 1st-3rd September?
« on: October 30, 2012, 17:15 »
So, how long does one have to wait to insure that all the sales are reported (IS would definitely be the site I'd audit if it were in my power).

I do have a pp sale listed the second.

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I do not envy you the task of getting all the iptc data on all those files. ugh. I am guessing that as soon as the iptc is done then you upload them everywhere.  - a daunting task, that is for sure. For anyone starting out or for exclusives I second the advice to keyword etc. in the iptc.

I think that IS has been insulating exclusives (mainly by shafting independents it appears) from any downturns - unfortunately for them they seem to have run out of shafting to be done to independents, so the pain is starting to hit the exclusives. It will be a painful process to jump ship, and a long road to get back to the kind of earnings you made as an exclusive. Thanks for keeping us posted.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: New Prices. Again.
« on: October 26, 2012, 14:49 »
Around 17 cents per credit is about as low as I've seen at DT.

Pretty much anything under .25 per credit I find pretty annoying.

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Selling Stock Direct / Re: received email to sell photo
« on: October 24, 2012, 18:21 »
Probably not spam - they want to put a link on some text on your web page - or modify the text to put a link in and will pay a certain amount for it. You can decide if you are willing to have the links for what they are willing to pay - it is up to you. The fact that they pay via paypal makes it pretty safe for you, and if you don't like the offer, just say no.

(I myself have added a few links to some of my web pages and been paid), other links I said were too far off the mark and didn't put them in. It is a bit mercenary, but so is selling pics for cheap at microstock.

As the previous poster said - I think they want a page that has high google page rank so that the paid links will be worthwhile - possibly to increase the page rank of the pages they link to.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: New Prices. Again.
« on: October 24, 2012, 16:09 »
It looks like the upper level medium prices are cut in half - up to 8 credits less. That is a pretty big drop. Maybe in the flip side of the "raise prices and cut commissions" we have seen so much of they should have jacked up commissions.

Here is another troubling thing upon closer reading...

"Also, we will gradually release a promo, aimed only for new buyers initially"

That "initially" scares me - perhaps this is another step towards the end of the levels system at DT (the first being all subs sales at the same price).

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Geo-Location Worth the Effort?
« on: October 24, 2012, 13:45 »
I wish that DT would indicate when a picture is found w/ the geotag.
I have tagged some of mine, but I don't do it 'til after they are accepted.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: New Prices. Again.
« on: October 24, 2012, 13:12 »
Basically they dropped prices pretty much across the board and increased royalties on files that hadn't sold in over 2 years from 20% to 25% - not necessarily good for the contributor, but at least they didn't drop royalty percentages as they have in most of their previous changes.

If I were a buyer I think I would be pretty annoyed by all the different prices there - but I suppose it at least is based on sales instead of some arbitrary selection or contributor status.

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I've had acceptances and rejections for these sorts of things (like strength ratings and so on). If it is easy to remove, then I'd probably do it.

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Alamy.com / Re: Bombshell at Alamy !!
« on: October 22, 2012, 13:48 »
Exactly!  spot on!  they are basically drowning in it, poor quality, irrelevant material, spamming, etc. It really shows and in almost every search. Buyers, even if they dont care about quality must find it a nightmare.

So what's the answer?  Wait until artificial intelligence research produces software that can judge the aesthetics and applicablity of a photo? That won't happen in 3 lifetimes, IMHO.  Other than 'popularity' ranking, I don't know what the big agencies can do, except watch helplessly as newer agencies, with more carefully curated collections, slowly eat their lunch.

They could first find out what most annoys their buyers :
is it heaps of similars all in a row - in which case they need to hide similars under one thumbnail.
is it anomalous spam - in which case they need to drop a bomb on the spammers.
Is it old images - automatically push the old images to the back of the search.

I think the easiest thing they could do is to start with the most popular searches and go through the first 5 or so pages of them and if something doesn't belong there move it down in the search. This could go a long way towards making the searches look good. If someone is searching back many pages then they expect to start seeing things that might not belong there.

I do agree that whatever site really gets a handle on this will move up a lot. Unfortunately from what I have seen in my very brief poking around with the Alamy edited selection they didn't do a very good job. My own sales there are sporadic enough that the fact that I have had no sales since then doesn't tell me anything.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Has DT gone over to the dark side
« on: October 22, 2012, 12:52 »
It looks to me like a way to move more images into the 20% commission category and to drop prices - a double whammy for the artist.

As far as "bad" images gumming up the search - they need to seriously combat spam and work on the search engine - instead of showing 20 or more images from the same artist in a row.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Has DT gone over to the dark side
« on: October 20, 2012, 15:05 »
I hope this experiment to move more files into the 20% category is dropped pretty soon.

Why not experiment and pay out 80% for the contributors. That is an experiment I would like to participate in.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Jon Oringer just sent me an e-mail...
« on: October 19, 2012, 15:04 »
I agree SS commission percent is a low, but it isn't as low as a few sites like say, IS or FT.  The commission percent might have gone down, but they didn't lower the amount you got for a sub sale - maybe more of the buyers were downloading less of their total.

I think I make more at SS for a sub sale than at any other site, so it is in my interest for all sub sales to be at SS. (I might have made more with the DT levels system, but they scrapped that).

I calculated my total RPD at IS for August - the last month it is available -  the total is 36.56 per sale - yup - less than what I get for subs sales at SS.

(for the same month my RPD at SS was 85.44)

Now that was an atypical month, so we'll look at July.

IS = 57.5
SS = 68.6

so with the rise of PP sales at IS it is quite clear to me that they are not my best place to sell things.

I think RPD is a bit of a useless statistic unless you are trying to decide where to send business.


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Featurepics.com / Re: Featurepicks: one big joke?
« on: October 19, 2012, 11:40 »
Yeah, I see them as a small but fairly steady site. They just slowly tick along and every once in a while I get a payout. Since they are so easy to submit to and I already have most of my stuff there I just let them ride along. They fall into the "upload if I am not doing anything else" sort of sites. I don't think they have much chance of making it big time, but they also aren't in the race to screw us.

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StockFresh / Re: Anyone else seeing StockFresh sales improve?
« on: October 15, 2012, 13:15 »
No sales for me this month.

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Off Topic / Re: Spend your life doing what you love
« on: October 12, 2012, 17:05 »
It would also take more than a few years to replace all the geologists employed in the oil and minerals industry not to mention environmental and construction.

I do think the number of geologists, archaeologists, anthropologists, linguists, etc. doing academic research is relatively small though.

Obviously someone has to do a number of jobs that few people are going to want to - when they require low skills that usually isn't a problem, but when they require a lot of skills or training that usually means they have to pay well.

Money really only makes a big difference when you don't have enough. Still, I agree that most people would do well to think about how much time and effort they are spending to make money to buy things they don't need or things that are supposed to save them time.  If you live simply and cheaply you are much more likely to be able to spend more time doing what you love and less time trying to make money.

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The point is to help the agencies build huge collections of free images off of which they'll make money and you won't.

So true.  I was browsing photoXpress the other day, for the first time.  Isn't this the site that Fotolia sends "free" images?  You have to buy a subscription to download them.  So they are making money on images donated for "free" by contributors.  And as far as I could see there was no link back to the paid Fotolia site, much less the portfolio of the donating contributor.  Struck me as obscene.

Maybe they didn't intend this when they opened the free site, but I truly believe they discovered how great it is to be a distributer AND a partner at the same time.  We signed up with Fotolia.  They open up a 2nd legal independent corporation, shift our work there and sell it on behalf of Fotolia.  They take their commission, then Fotolia takes their commission of what is left, and we get our pennies.

Now they need to open up a 3rd and 4th site and shuttle the images through all of them so that they can skim 99% out of each sale.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: September 2012 Earnings Thread
« on: October 04, 2012, 19:42 »
It sounds like what you need to do at FT is upload a batch, then after a week or 2, delete the non sellers and upload them in the next batch, repeat until they change their system.

Although I think the searches shouldn't be static, it also doesn't make sense to just demote a picture merely because it is older. Something similar to the SS system where an image needs to maintain sales to hold it's position makes sense. It should be about the images, not the contributor, the camera, or the age that determines it's position in the search. Unfortunately it appears that FT, DT, and IS all take those into account.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Why is iStockphoto tanking?
« on: October 04, 2012, 15:18 »
Maybe they have decided w/ cash sales they can keep all the money and don't have to report them to us anymore.

When they announced the RC #^&$ I stopped uploading. When they forced the move to PP I deactivated nearly 2 orders of magnitude from my port. Curiously my income only dropped about one order of magnitude most months. PP income is similar to regular sale income now though - so unless they are actually stealing SS customers that could be the source for a lot of their drop. I know they actively recruited IS buyers to thinkstock.

In any case I hope they hang on to just enough customers to keep the big exclusives from jumping ship, but otherwise I hope they die a painful death.

There are so many points in their history where they could have either done the right thing by their contributors or done a brilliant move to completely dominate the industry. So many times they have failed to do either. They are still a major force in the microstock business though and probably will continue to be so for years to come.

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Illustration - General / Re: Scans from old books/illustrations
« on: October 03, 2012, 13:33 »
You can't (because laws are so different in different countries). Anything pre 1800 should be fair game though unless it is owned by a museum.

Anything pre 1885 should be OK. (Can you give me a scenario of a 1884 image that is still copyrighted?)

...

If it was an 1884 image from a 10 year old Mexican who lived to be 100 then it could still be in copyright 'til 2074 (highly hypothetical) - I don't know, I'm not a lawyer. I do know that some sites won't accept them though.

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Illustration - General / Re: Scans from old books/illustrations
« on: October 03, 2012, 13:11 »
You can't (because laws are so different in different countries). Anything pre 1800 should be fair game though unless it is owned by a museum.

No, all sites don't accept these and with the ones that do it is not consistent.

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