Quote from: lisafx on December 20, 2010, 14:48
It's always been okay to write a note to the inspector in the description field, usually under the actual description.  I put the **asterisks** in so they will notice what I wrote.  Then later, if/when the image is approved, you can go in and remove the note. 

That's a good idea. Btw is it a custom on all stocks or only here?

Quote from: lisafx on December 20, 2010, 14:25

Not sure if it makes a difference, but I always put a note in the description field when I resubmit, saying something like **logo cloned out**, or **problem fixed**. 

Rofl I always  thought description is for describing what is really in the photo (next to the title which usually is short) so I always put image description to IPTC.
And I was quite disappointed that I didn't find any suitable place to write what I fixed in the photo on resubmit procedure.

Quote from: gostwyck on December 20, 2010, 13:59

If some from the batch were reviewed and others left it indicates that there were some potential issues, especially concerning unreleased property, which the reviewer has passed on to a more senior or experienced reviewer.

Fotolia have hierarchy in reviewers?  Do you know more about it? It's interesting. Btw I wish stock sites 'offered' photographers possibility to be a reviewer for a short time. I believe that would be extremely interesting experience. They could offer higher revenue on your own photos for joining such programme.

Usually I have to wait day, two, before Fotolia decides what to do with my photos. But sometimes they do review two newer photos and leave one older untouched. Today at 5 am I added few shots, and at 14 pm I log and see they're all reviewed! Though once I had to wait for a week for a few photos to review (though from the same batch others were reviewed in a day or two).

So does anyone knows if there's any pattern in fotolia reviews? Maybe there's the best hour or day to upload photos to them?

Nonetheless all the subjects in the thread, many ppl say that they have OEM versions for PC's that they assembled themselves. And that it's legal. Well recently M$ changed their mind. And decided that the policy might have been wrongly understood blah blah blah (the prices went heavily down) and in fact for normal person it's not legal anymore. The only OEM can be installed by a shop that sells the PC made from parts. Lol.

Quote from: Gannet77 on December 20, 2010, 10:56
Images rejected without a resubmit for what I might have felt to be incorrect reasons I have put to Scout, and again I've always felt were treated fairly.  Not always having the rejection overturned, but they've always explained the reasons why not.  In more than one case Scout has advised that he/she felt an image could be corrected and has even gone to the effort of showing me how, with an example.

Can't say fairer than that.

Haven't tried that Scout option yet, but I must say it sounds good. It's really nice to know that admins do take time to care about their users. Not a very common behaviour that one. Still I've heard opposite opinions, in this very thread, so I guess I must just make myself one after using this feature.

Quote from: ShadySue on December 19, 2010, 19:42

Quote from: Vonkara on December 19, 2010, 19:02

Quote from: seawhisper on December 19, 2010, 18:29

(But that's just to make things clear, and a bit off topic.) I still I don't know what's the difference between resubmitting and submitting again photos. And what are advantages / disadvantages of both. I thought ppl who are longer on IS should know, I don't believe everyone 100% agrees to reviewers. 

I explain once again. If the reviewer give you the resubmit option available for a rejected picture, it's because he/she give you the chance to modify that image according to the rejected reasons. This way, the same reviewer can compare on his computer screen the last image you submitted with the new modified one.

If you don't want to make modification, and think it should got through the inspection, you can always make a scout ticket for the file to be reviewed again, by a second inspector. Or, submit it the normal way again... but that's your personal choice.

If you have to get through the process of keywording again, it's probably in case your image was rejected for keywords ect. I hope I said it an understandable way

Either you or I have misunderstood the original question.
I took it that the OP was asking whether to resubmit using the resubmit button, or just to submit again from fresh.
You are taking it that the OP is asking whether it was worthwhile to resubmit rejections.

Both in fact. I asked the original question more like a subject to dwell upon it then to get easy answers.
But in short - I'm wondering what are technical aspects (the process of submitting in both cases seems the same for me). What does reviewer do with resubmit vs submitting again. (I think that mainly I got answer for that). And of course what does it mean for me - and as a consequence on which option to use. (Still not sure, but I guess it can't be answered straight.) To be honest I'm just curious of many aspects about IS. Since I found this submitting again vs resubmitting issue I asked about it. IS seems much different (in logic and web construction) from other (especially newly designed) stocks.

Quote from: Vonkara on December 19, 2010, 19:02

Quote from: seawhisper on December 19, 2010, 18:29

(But that's just to make things clear, and a bit off topic.) I still I don't know what's the difference between resubmitting and submitting again photos. And what are advantages / disadvantages of both. I thought ppl who are longer on IS should know, I don't believe everyone 100% agrees to reviewers.  

I explain once again. If the reviewer give you the resubmit option available for a rejected picture, it's because he/she give you the chance to modify that image according to the rejected reasons. This way, the same reviewer can compare on his computer screen the last image you submitted with the new modified one.

If you don't want to make modification, and think it should got through the inspection, you can always make a scout ticket for the file to be reviewed again, by a second inspector. Or, submit it the normal way again... but that's your personal choice.

If you have to get through the process of keywording again, it's probably in case your image was rejected for keywords ect. I hope I said it an understandable way

So you're basically saying that for a submitter there's absolutely no difference. The only difference is that the reviewer can compare files (which may be to good or a bad thing as people have written earlier).  

So maybe I didn't make myself clear. What I mean is the difference in acceptance of the file. Obviously you can't *correct* the file (upload corrected file or change keywords) - you have to go whole process of submitting again. For me the difference would be if I knew that resubmitted file is ok, and the reviewer will only check if the previous mistakes were corrected or not. If it's being judges from the very beginning then why doing 'resubmit' button if it only means submit again. That's what I'm talking about.

Quote from: Vonkara on December 19, 2010, 18:08
Isn't it simpler to just use the resubmit option... The reviewer choose to make the option available for you, and is willing to accept your image if the modifications suggested are applied.

How exactly simpler? I have to do the very same things I does when I submit a new photo. I have to answer copyright question, I have to mark my keywords (that are in the file), and I have to add categories. So what is being easier? Beside I'm still not convinced that the 'resubmit' link isn't just the normal 'upload' like which is mu suspicion. I'd like someone to clarify this. 

Quote from: Vonkara on December 19, 2010, 18:08I mean, people need to stop thinking the reviewers are only there to screw people. If you are still not happy, make a scout ticket and see if a experienced reviewer understand your point.

Sure they're not - they're doing their job, and they're only people making mistakes. And we're doing our jobs too. So if our interest is to get photos accepted and sold and theirs is review as many as they can there always be interest collision and tensions on that line no matter what. Quite natural everyone want to do their jobs and have different points of view.

Quote from: Vonkara on December 19, 2010, 18:08If it still don't work, move on. Since a while even uploading a great image that get accepted right away with a initial review, have a small % of chance to be a good seller, due to the massive amount of image submitted.

Imagine a image that barely get through the process...

If I have photo accepted on SS, DS and Fotolia (and two middle tier), and it's selling quite nice there, it's quite natural I do disagree with IS that it's not worth anything and I want another chance. Especially when three other lets say more 'picky' judges already accepted it.
I'm not trying to cheat a system or make IS life miserable - on the contrary I'm trying to make their profits even bigger.

(But that's just to make things clear, and a bit off topic.) I still I don't know what's the difference between resubmitting and submitting again photos. And what are advantages / disadvantages of both. I thought ppl who are longer on IS should know, I don't believe everyone 100% agrees to reviewers. 

Quote from: jsnover on December 19, 2010, 16:46
People can obviously choose to do things that are against the rules and hope they don't get caught. With the large number of inspectors, it's  possible that you may get away with submitting images marked no resubmit.

However, if they catch you, you risk having your upload privileges revoked. I don't think that's worth the risk, but everyone's risk tolerance is different.

As far as entering things over, your keywords should be in your image (for your own sanity) so the work is in checking the boxes for disambiguating (it should remember those, but the software's lame and doesn't). Perhaps now Franky (DeepMeta developer) is under contract he'll make resubmitting from DeepMeta a feature and that issue will go away.

I don't see any rule that you can't submit the once rejected photo in terms of use. So I guess it's not a rule, but rather a tip that one files might be corrected and others don't. Since reviewer don't see my raw file it can imho be only considered as opinion.
Though I might be wrong. It would be nice if someone could find in the terms of use the appropriate statement, cause I'm curious. (Because it's the only reason to ban user considering braking stock 'law' since the very terms are the deal between user and the stock site.)  I couldn't find it.

And yes I do have keywords, title and description in my iptc. BUT if one's submitting the photo it could be easily implemented that the checkboxes are visible not only for reviewer but also for resubmitter. The same is about the categories, which on IS always takes a moment to get right. Also I don't know why but IS is the only stock site which occasionaly don't import the title and description in the photo (when on the same photo all other stock sites read it...) O.o

So honestly I think that resubmitting the photo should be a feature to make things easier for submitter, not making it harder for him / her? What do you guys think? 

I was wondering - IS gives option to resubmit some rejected works. BUT you basically have to do everything again. Answer silly copyright questions, mark the keywords, add categories...
So what's the point? Beside giving moderator a clue that it was once rejected so maybe there are still some flaws on the photo. Or maybe it's just a clever link to normal procedure of submitting the photo? And there's absolutely no meaning in this 'resubmitting' feature? Maybe at least the time of processing photo is shorter?

Cheers,
Paula

Quote from: luissantos84 on December 12, 2010, 09:30
I have never seen a big company down

IS beats everything

I've never seen big company website that doesn't fit on 1280 px.

Quote from: mtkang on December 12, 2010, 18:20
I used filezilla before, but maybe due to poor internet connection, the transfer isn't successfully sometimes..

why not try the picworkflow? created by one guy who is active here too..
http://www.picWorkflow.com/?by=219

I had a simple guides of how to upload through this website.. http://wp.me/pPDGb-39

one thing that is good, you upload one time, and the files will be assigned to different websites even you are off the internet.

there is a promo code 'microstockgroup', so u got 100 credits to try..and there are ways to earn credits too..

so far, i find it is much more efficient than ftp and other uploading method.

In fact I have something similar to picworkflow or isindica (syndica?). But it's my very own program made by me and a friend. The only problem is with this ftp transmission. I can send all my files to all stocks with one click but on a few they end up corrupted and I tried everything but I still don't know why. :/

Quote from: azurelaroux on December 12, 2010, 15:52
They moved all the photographer info to the bottom of the page in the footer. It confused me for a while as well.

Yeah, I've noticed after ctrl+f the website on 'upload' term. Thanks so much - I thought it was only my own bug.   I wonder why - it's quite non-functional to change the huge 'sell' button into the tiny footer links... O.o 

I have 'normal' ftp too. But for many reasons I'm using batch script file. There's no software added to it. Pure perl script.
It's kind of strange it happens like that. Especially because it works perfect on most stocks but these two. And because of that they don't let me sleep at night.

Hi there

I have a little problem here. I wanted to make my life easier and uploads faster and I decided to use perl ftp module. It does work fine except Dremstime and Yaymicro. The jpg ends up corrupted and looking like this: http://picasaweb.google.com/missdaredevil/ZrzutyEkranu?authkey=Gv1sRgCOj51az92Zuq_gE#5549497872583041298

Does anybody has similar experiences? Any advices maybe?

Hugs,
Paula

Thanks Anglee for response!

If I may continue the subject here on the forum (maybe it will help someone else too) - I'm not sure if I understand that correctly - you need release even for buildings that are UNPROTECTED by copyright law? Polish copyright law allows to take a photo of any object found in public space. For instance you can even take a photo of a monument standing on main square although it is obviously a piece of art. Therefore none of my rejected photos need property release.

As for the ID - I didn't receive any info that it was accepted - and I still doesn't have any place where to submit my photos (I had huge "sell images" button earlier, now it's gone O.O) is it a bug or am I missing something? Here it's how it looks like now: http://picasaweb.google.com/missdaredevil/ZrzutyEkranu?authkey=Gv1sRgCOj51az92Zuq_gE#5549051063298822930

Wow this is something demanding release for desk... I think I started an account there in a bad time.
Still just out of curiosity from who do you get such property release? I mean the building in the city? The city president...?

As for the ID it's really strange. I thought just as you've said - it's only for payments. I thought that because they let me submit photos already. BUT just yesterday I got a mail from them saying that they rejected all my photos (which they in fact didn't do) because of the missing ID.

I have mixed feeling about this website - they doesn't state which court jurisdiction is theirs (if it goes to suing them or they will sue you) what I believe is a must for any international company. Their HQ seems to be in Hongkong (or similar)  but the servers in Singapore and their company registered even somewhere else (I don't remember correctly now, I was tracerounting them after some problems with ftp).

So it's all kind of spooky here...

Hello

I got my both architecture photos rejected with inquiry to add property release. No other stock asked me for property releases for them. And it would be hard to obtain since one building are simple stairs in Warsaw (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=44790370) and Wilanow Palace in Warsaw (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=43220404).

Both objects need no property release. How to deal with it? Does 123rf need property release for any architecture element or should I just put property release with 'no release needed' info in it? 

Also this is strange for me - they seem like didn't accept my id yet, but they did accepted and rejected some of my photos... O.o

I posted my question here, but I'm not sure if I shouldn't put it in newbie section. If so tell me and I will repost it there.

Hugs,
Paula

Ah, that's a relief. Thanks for such a quick and precise answer!

At the moment I have shutterstock, dreamstime, istock, depositphotos, and yaymicro. Since now I got a bit more time, I started to submit to all of them (instead of only ss ) and added fotolia and 123. Well see how it goes.

I'm quite new to fotolia (and this is my first post here, so btw hi all ) and some time ago I noticed "Credits Validity" on fotolia.

I'm kind of worried - is this correct that if don't exchange my credits into money to paypal or anything after a year they will simply disappear? I guess there is usual limit - you can't get your money under $50 or similar? Or maybe this concerns only buyers?
Here's what is on the site:
"Credit Validity
Credits can be used for 365 days from the date of purchase. After 365 days the Credits cannot be used and their value is lost. The member waives any claims in respect to this time limit."

It's not much (few credits I believe) since their submission procedures discouraged me and I wasn't submitting to this stock much, but still it's kind of worrying that the credits can disappear...

Sorry if I double post this, I couldn't find my answer anywhere. If the subject was discussed earlier, pls give me the link.


Hugs from Poland,
Paula