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Messages - Jo Ann Snover
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« on: October 10, 2023, 12:42 »
I have a paltry 4 photos sitting in the queue. The oldest has been there nearly 2 weeks.
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« on: October 10, 2023, 12:40 »
I don't have any similar experiences, but I wonder if you might understand more about how this mistake occurred by looking at the metadata in your uploaded file. When I was experimenting with Photoshop 25 and generative fill, I used an online metadata tool to look at and compare what was in the new file versus one created with PS 24.x. As far as I can tell from the limited tests I did, if you stay away from the AI-powered features, your Photoshop edited files should be fine. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z_2dnk-QdSpAU47AQZSXgwwPYRhIsa9A/view?usp=sharingIt's possible it's the Gigapixel tool that's embedding something that triggered SS's automatic screening, so possibly you need to clean the metadata out after that step and before editing in Photoshop? Let us know what you find out.
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« on: October 05, 2023, 15:42 »
You are assuming all your submissions will be accepted. I don't think we've heard anything yet from someone who submitted to know if Adobe is taking everything, half, quarter...
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« on: October 05, 2023, 15:40 »
Once Firefly was out of beta, it was available for commercial use - also the generative fill in Photoshop 25 However, most stock agencies do not accept AI generated content, and the content credentials in your Firefly/generative fill from Photoshop will show that AI was used. Dreamstime, Deposit Photos and I think 123rf accept gen AI content, but not Getty/iStock, Shutterstock or Alamy
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« on: October 04, 2023, 10:11 »
The deeply unfair gets even worse than I could have imagined.
What is the point of upload limits if you dont enforce them? Or similars rules? Or keywording rules? Or quality standards? Or
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« on: October 04, 2023, 10:06 »
Thank you for letting us know - and its outrageous youve been treated this way.
Adobe Stock has lost the plot on so many issues. Shameful.
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« on: October 04, 2023, 07:34 »
Of course it's unethical.
And it's not for want of asking - I have when I've had agencies take down stolen work of mine. They just don't reply to that part.
The short answer is that there's no law making them act ethically and none of us have sued them about it - fear of lawsuits is also a powerful motivator.
We are just a cost to agencies. Businesses are focused on controlling costs.
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« on: October 04, 2023, 07:29 »
This is sad for the real models. All the AI people are starting to look the same.
Two different contributors. These creations could be twins if they were real people   The "problem" (from my perspective, and I suspect in short order from a buyer's perspective too) is that there are huge volumes of nicely lit images of not-quite-real look-alike humans. Impossibly fit and beautiful seniors, shiny trendy young adults, very spooky children who look adult but smaller. I have samples from "Find Similar" searches and it's really spooky. Sometimes, the hotter the fad, the faster it fades, so possibly this won't last and human models will still find work?
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« on: October 03, 2023, 11:57 »
There are 18,401,010+ items in the genAI collection, of which 2,428,094+ are tagged as photos, but many more than 2 million are photo-realistic. For quite a while contributors were required to submit genAI content as an illustration. There are 365+ million items on Adobe Stock, 209+ million of which are photos, the biggest subset. But as long as idiot "photos" like this (from today) are accepted, you have to wonder if we need another category - along with better keywords to cover the situation if you really want to depict a 3-legged woman: "Beautiful young woman sitting in folding chair"  Keywords are rubbish such as forest, notebook, cyberspace, technology, along with useful ones such as woman, grass, outside, folding chair, etc. This is neither a photo, nor an illustration, even if the 3 legs were on purpose.
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« on: October 02, 2023, 10:43 »
https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/30/how-much-can-artists-make-from-generative-ai-vendors-wont-say/"So vendors including Adobe, Getty Images, Stability AI and YouTube have introduced or promised to introduce ways creators can share in their generative AI profits. The trouble is, the companies havent been clear about how much, exactly, creators can expect to earn. And for creators considering allowing a vendor to train a model on their works, it doesnt make the decision easy." "Tough luck, creators Tellingly, none of the generative AI vendors we spoke with would give a dollar amount the average creator can expect to see after forking over their creations for model training. Some vendors blamed the absence of data on the newness of the tech and business model. Others said that the range would vary too widely to give a useful figure. But for creators particularly those dependent on contract income to make ends meet those are arguments that are likely to ring hollow. ... At best, theyre offering hazy promises of future riches and hazy promises dont pay the rent."
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« on: October 01, 2023, 16:39 »
The hits just keep on coming...  
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« on: September 30, 2023, 08:50 »
Looking at new approvals in the genAI collection this morning (bad habit, I know...), #11 out of 17,943,949 is this clunker. Businessman's Energetic Leap Across Stairs and Spaces, White Shirt Contrast HOW does this get approved?
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« on: September 30, 2023, 06:08 »
If these clone army files are wrongly tagged - not marked as genAI - that totally undermines the ethical AI marketing messages Adobe has been pushing.
As Ive noted elsewhere, the inspection process for AI content is broken. If this is another aspect of the problem, its even more troublesome.
Not a few slipups, but deliberate schemes to flout the rules. Youve given Mat all the information needed to look into this
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« on: September 29, 2023, 16:58 »
Harping on about the rules for AI content being "anything goes" with respect to similars... 93 "blue jay" images . Never mind that other than being blue and a bird, they're far from an actual blue jay. How do you get to have 93 with minimal variations? https://stock.adobe.com/search?creator_id=211160654?&order=creation&k=%22blue%20jay%22Back in the Spring, I had two photos of a particular species of plant - the second one was rejected as being similar. Mine were actual photos of actual plants Nice touch to add the beads in the bird's feathers, but there's nothing in the title or keywords to call attention to this, so I assume this is accidental - just what Midjourney or whoever decided to add. What is the point of bulking up the Adobe Stock collection with so much stuff when it can't possibly all sell? Even with the current buzziness of anything AI. There aren't more buyers than before and they don't need more images/illustrations than before. The regular collection already has 26,336 blue jay photos (none of them mine; I'm ranting in principle, not because my images are threatened). Accept the two or three genAI blue jays with beads in their feathers and then the collection is improved. What possible value is there in 90+ fake blue jays with useless keywords?
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« on: September 29, 2023, 16:15 »
There are currently 873 video items tagged as genAI. That's been growing over the last month or so, but very, very slowly. 356 two months ago vs 791 in the middle of August. They seem to be lots of animated illustrations - moving through an AI image like the Ken Burns effect. Given how utterly broken the AI inspection process is at the moment, I think Adobe Stock would do better to work on filtering out all the "oops" images and endless spam repeats first. New approvals are not getting better, IMO.   
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« on: September 29, 2023, 13:18 »
I didn't notice that I have been invited until today - they must be really desperate to have invited me  That's part snark, but also, I'm not a high-volume supplier. I did review the details and as Mat was asking for feedback... Not a prayer. Even if you just shoot JPEG, it's a hard no to be asked to shoot work most of which has no value to me with no guaranteed pay. There's not even an offer to do it for free for the exposure Even if I were willing to risk it for inanimate objects, two of the missions require another person plus lots of time to pose, switch foods, settings, holding, etc. Even more time for at least two people and no guaranteed pay. If any of the missions sounded like (a) good material for my portfolio, and (b) the setup didn't sound like something that's already flooded with genAI images, I might consider doing the work for me with some "extras" for the mission. But I'm not even sure that would be worth it.
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« on: September 29, 2023, 08:18 »
I'm not seeing AI vectors (there might be some, but there are lots that are just SVG/JPEG/PNG; interestingly I didn't see any Illustrator (AI) offerings), but I am seeing masses of look-alike similars I don't know how many accounts, but there are "28,968 results for "japan web" in all". https://stock.adobe.com/search?k=%22japan+web%22What is odd is that many of these portfolios appear to have recent work that's all look-alike "japan web" although their earlier work is much more varied. For example: https://stock.adobe.com/contributor/211464333/oleksandr?order=creationGo to page 5 to see the changeover. It's odd that the above portfolio does have masses of genAI vectors as well as others not tagged that way. It's all recent stuff though. A google search for japan web just produced sites that help with tourist visas for visitors to Japan. I thought it was worth checking to see if this was some new art style Adobe Stock says there are 117,634 genAI vectors - that's down about 2,000 from a couple of weeks ago, but still a lot for something supposed to be disallowed.
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« on: September 28, 2023, 10:51 »
For those contributing to Canva, it's worth noting this section:
"(d) For the avoidance of doubt, if you withdraw entirely from the Contributor program, Canva will retain the right to use your Stock Media to develop and improve artificial intelligence or machine learning models, unless you opt-out."
So opt out before you quit or they can use your work forever
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« on: September 28, 2023, 06:53 »
I am so happy to see that all these images are now gone - just 404 pages remain. The deluge of fake city shots from all over the world - how many towers in tower bridge? How many Big Bens? - is still there, but one step at a time : real people doing real things in real places...
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« on: September 27, 2023, 11:37 »
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« on: September 26, 2023, 07:47 »
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/26/techscape-ai-images-elections-integrity-tiananmen-square"A strange thing happened last week when you searched for tank man on Google. Tap on image results and instead of the usual photos of Tiananmen Square in Beijing, and the iconic image of a brave protester staring down a convoy of tanks that was captured in 1989, the first result was the same historic moment but from a different point of view. For a time last week, the first result on Google Images for tank man was instead an AI-generated image of the same protester, taking a selfie in front of the tank. The image was created by Midjourney, and was at least six months old. First reported by 404 Media, a new tech journalism startup set up by former Vice News staff, the emergence of the tank man selfie which Google subsequently removed from search results for tank man highlighted one of the main fears that Eddie Perez, Twitters former head of election integrity, highlighted to me in a recent podcast interview: its now possible, with the use of AI imagery, to create alternative history. "
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« on: September 26, 2023, 07:45 »
I don't know what Adobe Stock is doing, but I can - and have - observed the new approvals over the last couple of months.
What I see is that the same parade of mistakes continues - there are some decent images buried in the flood, of course.
If things were being taken care of, I'd expect to see fewer logos, extra/missing limbs/digits, laws of physics being mangled in photo-realistic images, etc. etc.
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« on: September 25, 2023, 14:54 »
WFT??? https://stock.adobe.com/search?creator_id=210680721&order=creation&k=inisialThey're not the letters the titles say; over 100 meaningless white lines on black. I'd fire any designer that brought me those as logos. How does this get approved? If this were not an AI generated image, wouldn't that have been rejected for "aesthetic or commercial appeal of image"?
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« on: September 25, 2023, 12:42 »
I saw an image of the Sept 11 2001 attack in New York City when looking at new approvals in Adobe Stock's genAI collection today. https://stock.adobe.com/search?creator_id=211304520&order=creation&k=%22september+11%22+-flagI first noticed the theatrical "explosions" in the scene. I noticed the buildings didn't look like New York. I noticed that One World Trade Center - which was built after the twin towers were destroyed - was featured in several of the images supposedly from 2001. Then I thought some more about this being on another level of unacceptable from the thousands of other accepted images supposedly of other places which are unreal and inaccurate. This just feels exploitive - it's a cheap imitation of something very real and still painful for so many people. I think all of these images should be removed. Anyone else have an opinion on this type of content? I realize as contributors we have very little input on Adobe Stock's policies, but possibly they haven't thought about it either and possibly it just needs to come to their attention? Here are just a couple to look at    And there's this one - careless and stupid, but not offensive in the same way 
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