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Shutterstock.com / Re: Scam/Pishing on Shutterstock ?
« on: October 16, 2015, 17:38 »
I'm not sure anyone has ever gotten a Captcha right on their first try anywhere in the world.

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I was looking to get a logo designed and came across these sites that offer contests to the designers. I get to choose a logo and someone "WINS". I couldn't do it.

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It's just a twist on the decades old Photo Contest.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Dreamstime isnt the place for begginers
« on: October 15, 2015, 14:06 »
Begginers can't be chooseners.

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General - Top Sites / Re: Yuri Arcurs comments on Adobe Stock
« on: October 14, 2015, 12:14 »
What Yuri is actually saying, is he never should have shot so much really good stock and let it go for such a pittance for so many years, with little or no control over how all those images are used.

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General - Top Sites / Re: Yuri Arcurs comments on Adobe Stock
« on: October 14, 2015, 10:01 »
That's true. It is a sustainability problem. Most of my exclusive friends andt acquitances at istock, some of them really amazing photographers, are stopping uploads because lack of budget to produce.
Take hammer, hit nail on head.

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The following on Creative Cow for complementary downloads. Can't understand why it would be slow... wait... unless of course you're not getting paid for this.


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I will shoot your video with my equipment, edit the video and then upload it to your account for free.
I'll send you a shot list tomorrow.

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Leaving all other issues aside, I think you are only looking at a very small subsection of all the reasons why a buyer would request a refund. Sometimes there is simply a change of clip needs. They decide they want a different clip and request an "exchange". Too bad for you, good for someone else. I can think of many other reasons but it's not that important. I don't like VB but the idea of refunds only being evil is not correct. With the exception of "All sales final" outlets, refunds and exchanges do bring in customers and are in fact a proper way to do business.

Edit:It looks like an answer from vb has been given.

Still i'd like to embark.
Of course there are more reasons and all of them are valid.The point is that the product itself is of a such a nature that can be more easily returned or "stolen" wouldn't you agree?
We are not selling fruits off a stand after all we are selling digital products that are presented in a poor manner across all agencies,and the agencies should present each and every one in the best way they can.
Curation is the one,and i agree, quality control costs time and money,so it's practically non-existent,but why doesn't anyone answer the editorial question?After all this is a form of curation we can do for ourselves.
Im still buffled as to why vb doesn't allow us to tag our editorial clips,and the official statement regarding this doesn't cover me.But if it's ok for everyone else, what can i say.
I guess if you assume everyone who returns a shirt has likely worn it at least once, then you will adopt a no return policy.

All I know, is that of all the sales I've made over the years, not that many of them have been returned. I can't say it's a fact, but my guess is way more images and clips get stollen outright than get bought, returned and used. You'd need to a bit of a simpleton to buy a clip, return it, and then use it. It does give a rather strong case for copyright infringement. But then stupidity is not in short supply.

Im not assuming anything.Im just saying that a digital product is not a t-shirt.As long as we understand the huge difference.And this includes agencies as well,which they very well know thats why they benefit so much from it's immaterial nature,and we end up ranting in forums.
I'm not making myself clear then. I don't agree with you.

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Leaving all other issues aside, I think you are only looking at a very small subsection of all the reasons why a buyer would request a refund. Sometimes there is simply a change of clip needs. They decide they want a different clip and request an "exchange". Too bad for you, good for someone else. I can think of many other reasons but it's not that important. I don't like VB but the idea of refunds only being evil is not correct. With the exception of "All sales final" outlets, refunds and exchanges do bring in customers and are in fact a proper way to do business.

Edit:It looks like an answer from vb has been given.

Still i'd like to embark.
Of course there are more reasons and all of them are valid.The point is that the product itself is of a such a nature that can be more easily returned or "stolen" wouldn't you agree?
We are not selling fruits off a stand after all we are selling digital products that are presented in a poor manner across all agencies,and the agencies should present each and every one in the best way they can.
Curation is the one,and i agree, quality control costs time and money,so it's practically non-existent,but why doesn't anyone answer the editorial question?After all this is a form of curation we can do for ourselves.
Im still buffled as to why vb doesn't allow us to tag our editorial clips,and the official statement regarding this doesn't cover me.But if it's ok for everyone else, what can i say.
I guess if you assume everyone who returns a shirt has likely worn it at least once, then you will adopt a no return policy.

All I know, is that of all the sales I've made over the years, not that many of them have been returned. I can't say it's a fact, but my guess is way more images and clips get stollen outright than get bought, returned and used. You'd need to a bit of a simpleton to buy a clip, return it, and then use it. It does give a rather strong case for copyright infringement. But then stupidity is not in short supply.

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-Refunds have been given to customers for purchased images/clips since I can remember. VB has chosen to adopt this policy. Maybe it's one way of attracting more buyers. Live with it and quite whining.


How exactly can an agency attract buyers since refunds propably mean:
1)Bad video quality and various technical issues that the agency either chose to ignore or has no means to check or simply doesn't care.Would you buy  products from a shop that has no means to verify their quality?
2)Agency is new and being taken advantage of from people who want to download and get a refund."The client is always right" mantra doesn't necessarily inspire confidence.

Am i missing something else?

I get occasional refunds from EVERY agency I've ever worked with. As for VB I've had dozens of downloads and maybe three refunds.

Also they do seem to be checking the quality of all incoming videos. While it's true I haven't had many rejected, I have had a few.

I dont think refunds alone is the point of this thread (actually this thread has no point but nevermind) but since we are at it what do you mean every agency?I've never had one from p5 and ss that i know of.Maybe they dont report the sale reversal but other than that how would you know?
I had refunds from dissolve though as well as motionelements.

How certain are you that they curate that good?I've had 3-4 rejections but that doesnt mean that they curate well.What's the reason for them being the only agency where editorial clips are officially accepted but yet aren't tagged as such?
How can a buyer know if some of the people in the background for example are visible if there's no editorial tab?From the horrible low res preview?
And that's one example.
That doesn't prove in your opinion that their curation process is a bit "relaxed" to put it mildly?
Do the math, there isn't time to curate properly in this business.

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-Refunds have been given to customers for purchased images/clips since I can remember. VB has chosen to adopt this policy. Maybe it's one way of attracting more buyers. Live with it and quite whining.


How exactly can an agency attract buyers since refunds propably mean:
1)Bad video quality and various technical issues that the agency either chose to ignore or has no means to check or simply doesn't care.Would you buy  products from a shop that has no means to verify their quality?
2)Agency is new and being taken advantage of from people who want to download and get a refund."The client is always right" mantra doesn't necessarily inspire confidence.

Am i missing something else?
Leaving all other issues aside, I think you are only looking at a very small subsection of all the reasons why a buyer would request a refund. Sometimes there is simply a change of clip needs. They decide they want a different clip and request an "exchange". Too bad for you, good for someone else. I can think of many other reasons but it's not that important. I don't like VB but the idea of refunds only being evil is not correct. With the exception of "All sales final" outlets, refunds and exchanges do bring in customers and are in fact a proper way to do business.

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I tried once checking getting insurance through my home policy, and they threatened to cancel my policy for running a business out of my home.  So, I went with State Farm to get liability and equipment insurance.  Which has more than paid for itself.
I'm not in the US but I had a similar issue.

For that value of gear, I'd almost not bother. 90% of the reason I carry insurance is for the liability. I haven't made a claim in 20 years, it would be a massive waste of money if all I was insuring was a few thousand in gear.

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How about Vimeo? They state that as a contributor with Vimeo Pro ($199/year), one keeps 90% of the proceeds.
$200 a year, if they could sell like SS or p5 is very little. It would be taken care of in even the slowest month. But can they sell like P5 or SS? My guess is it's not for clip content.

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Random points:
-Refunds have been given to customers for purchased images/clips since I can remember. VB has chosen to adopt this policy. Maybe it's one way of attracting more buyers. Live with it and quite whining.
-100% of nothing is nothing.
-There is no such thing as a tooth fairy.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Is Shutterstock for real???
« on: October 09, 2015, 11:10 »
RCG, You're experiencing a common problem. I just went through a similar situation at P5 with images. Drove me crazy.

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I would go after the architectural/interior market instead. It calls for a much higher quality and therefor commands a much higher rate.

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Im looking to possibly approach real estate companies and property management companies to offer high quality photographs and sweeping videos of their rentals/sales. a lot of them already have photographers for these purposes but there is lots of varying quality. do you know how much one would charge for one session? ie, going to the house, taking about 6-8 shots?

it would be best if someone who actually does this, or knows of it could give me estimates as when i approach them i don't want to have no idea how much to ask for
I wouldn't want to try and dissuade you from this type of work, but at least in my area of the world, it's a hopeless way to make a living.

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Off Topic / Re: 10 dead 20 wounded in school shooting
« on: October 02, 2015, 11:20 »
Firearms are a religion. Those that worship them cannot be convinced to change their beliefs no matter how detrimental that worship is to their wellbeing.

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I admit I am very opinionated on these matters.

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My sales there have been very good so far.Do i at least have the right to NOT feel enthusiastic about it and start spreading thumbs up to everyone cheering them on?
You absolutely do; the internet is a free country.  :D

Just as any of us can complain a year from now how we haven't had a sale on VideoBlocks in, like, forever, because suddenly there's 2,000,000 other clips competing with ours. I have no idea how that could happen, though ....  ::)
But hey, there will be that new guy on the block, ClipSchlock, who is selling for $29 and offering 60% that is making good sales.

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It's amazing how similar we are to gazing animals. No sooner is a new source of "green" discovered by the herd, than the majority of them take off in that direction to get their share. Never stopping to think about what they're tramping on along the way.

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New Sites - General / Re: Dissolve now selling still imagery
« on: September 29, 2015, 20:20 »
They appear to be mostly from aggregate agencies at this point. The price point is good.

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Selling Stock Direct / Re: Average Sale Price Selling Direct?
« on: September 26, 2015, 12:36 »
Predictability is key - variance permits purchases here and there that may have nothing to do with the pricing. On the other hand, it may have everything to do with the pricing. Large scale experimentation, exactly like what you are doing, is what we need to contribute to the statistical database we have so we can make more accurate market analysis.

Based on what I've seen, most independents are pricing at over $20 for full size images, and getting few sales. There will, of course, be exceptions to that, but it is that knowledge that drives me to experiment with a new license model (one time use) at a much lower cost ($0.99 for a small, $4.99 for a full size).

This is good to know but do you know why there's a $20 max? Is it the images aren't differentiated enough from micro? Is it lack of traffic? Are they targeting specific buyers or any buyer? Other?

Getting pricing right also depends on traffic and conversion rate. Based on what I've seen so far I don't think I could get enough traffic to make $5-$20 work for me. So while I may get fewer sales, the sales at a higher price more than make up for the volume. I just had a $450 license sale. It would take 90 $5 sales to match that. Are there a decent amount of Symbio people that are getting that level of traffic to get over 90 sales in a month?

I haven't really seen any stats on independent stock sales. If you have any Symbio data you'd be willing to share I think it would be helpful. Like you said, I'm also experimenting to find the sweet spot between price and volume.
PW, I wonder about this too. Based on what I see, especially those new to stock, is the general disbelief that images can be worth more than $10 or $20.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Getty has a new CEO
« on: September 25, 2015, 10:03 »
Zero Talent, I imagine you thinking that Volkswagen's recent problems are fair game as well.

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