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« on: February 07, 2008, 00:18 »
Hey - no problem  I will reshoot this pic, and will double check the settings in the RAW converter - or, better still, use RAWShooter and PS7 with which I am 100% familiar - which is not something I can say about CS3...
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« on: February 07, 2008, 00:13 »
Susan - thanks  What you wrote makes sense - except that I would never do any "heavy processing" on a JPEG file, no matter what the quality settings for the saved file had been. But - it makes sense, so I will try to figure out what it is that makes my pics not acceptable at Istock.
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« on: February 07, 2008, 00:08 »
And, respectfully, I disagree regarding this
"Yes an image may sell well, but that doesn't reflect quality because buyers don't typically inspect the image at 100% before buying (they already have high quality expectations from iStock)."
No problem with inspecting at 100% or 200% if need be, but...this is not how the image is being used/viewed. So, while inspection at 100% is a chosen method to ensure quality (I have no disagreement with that) - there should be also a sellability aspect considered. If there are minor defects at 100%, but in the opinion of the reviewer the image is going to sell - why, for instance, not introduce something like "conditional" acceptance: the image gets say 1 or 2 month grace period in which it has to sell in order to stay listed - or it gets deleted. Let the customer decide.
Microstock sites do not exist to promote quality (although it is a vital factor in their continuing existence and sales) - but to sell images. At least this is my (maybe misguided) opinion.
But...I am getting away from the main subject of this thread, which wasn't my intention.
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« on: February 06, 2008, 23:56 »
I didn't strip anything - I just had to upload it to some accessible server (and PhotoNet was it). They do not (?) support EXIF data (well, I should know, have been a member for 4 years - but I am not 100% sure - and this is the only reason I can think of). I will check the original image.
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« on: February 06, 2008, 23:29 »
That's strange. Fotolia has been pretty good to me (although the % of accepted images is the lowest) - but the reviews a fair if a bit biased toward "clean and pure" sometimes, and overall my acceptance rate is increasing rather than decreasing.
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« on: February 06, 2008, 23:03 »
And, on a more general note: I always thought (and still do) that the No 1 criteria for an image is: is it going to sell ? Of course technical requirements are important - but in the end it is the customer who decides what is right and what is wrong. This image has been knocked back twice for "artifacting" and "overfiltering". Nonetheless, it sold 10 times on Fotolia within 4 weeks (with a portfolio of about 35 images). http://www.fotolia.com/id/5549902I am not arguing or trying to subvert the acceptance criteria. What I am saying there is no logic (at least no business logic) at work sometimes...
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« on: February 06, 2008, 22:26 »
"denoised look" - pretty funny  Camera settings (as said before) have nothing to do with the image - I shoot RAW. I just had set 4 halogen lamps with some white cloth over them to diffuse the light and eliminate shadows. The image came out of the camera pretty much as you see it, with very minor corrections afterwards. In one of my previous attempts I had all three images rejected on the basis of being "overfiltered". Since I was already very much aware of this being one of major reasons for rejections - I sent 100% RAW crops with all settings in neutral - just to show that almost no filtering was present. No answer (well, to be honest I haven't expected any...). Now - I know that my pics are not perfect. And I am aware that at 100% and above things start showing up. I was never much of a pixel peeper, if the image looks OK at 50% - then it is OK to me. No one in his right mind would expect to print much more than say 14"x10" from a 8Mp camera (OK, I know it is possible with some fancy interpolation, GenuineFractals or some such - so let's not start any flame wars). On the monitor with 1600x1200 resolution you do not view the pics at more than 40% anyway. But - if the rejected images sell OK somewhere else - then I am getting a bit frustrated. Of course I accept all the above remarks regarding the issues with this image - after all it takes someone uninvolved to notice things like this. And I will try to correct them and do better next time. But - someone please save this pic and print it - and view it on a monitor (not at 200% or 100% - just the way it would be used if downloaded). And then tell me that it is not acceptable...if it really isn't.
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« on: February 06, 2008, 21:24 »
OK - thanks. It appears that the general consensus is that the image is... well - crap. The truth is, recently I "upgraded" to CS3 and try to use its RAW converter. Previously I was using RAWShooter (and PS7) with apparently better results.
I will check the whole workflow process again - maybe there is something I am overlooking. At any case - thanks for the input, I will try to do better than this.
Just one more request - if someone can point out the artifacts ond the 100% crop - that would be great, and maybe I will be able to avoid this in future.
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« on: February 06, 2008, 19:17 »
MICHAELO: could you please indicate the offending portion of the image more closely?
I am not saying there is none - just that I can't spot it at 100% magnification. There would be none when the image is vieved at 10x8 size or so.
So - a 100% crop from the image I posted with an arrow showing the artifact would be a real help...
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« on: February 06, 2008, 19:13 »
Thanks everyone.
W7LWI: yes - I know how to check for some residual color using levels - I left the background as it was, and added a clipping path instead in case someone wanted a 100% white background. Green bleed - it is just the light filtering through the green glass. CA - agreed, the 24-70 is not exactly known for being CA free. Will try with 100 macro lens.
My problem is the canned response: artifacting. If I knew what exactly this is that has been met with the reviewer's disapproval - then I could possibly fix it in in future submissions.
As things stand now, though, images which sell on other sites are being rejected for "overfiltering" or "artifacting". Both are very general statements which do not provide any specific info, making it a guessing game.
ANOUCHKA: I haven't asked the question regarding calibrated monitor at native resolution (I guess everyone is using LCDs these days), because this would suggest that the reviewers do not know what they are doing, which I am sure is not the case- but from one of the other sites I have received a rejection with a reason "moire pattern" - where there was none (but I am still using a calibrated CRT). I can see moire in some of my pics - on a LCD reset to other than native resolution.
ALE1969: there are no RAW settings on the camera which would affect the quality of the image. RAW conversion, on the other hand, could be a factor - so I will have a look at it again. When I said "barely touched' - I meant it, since I was advised to not overdo PS corrections for Istock submissions. I was similarly careful with the other two images (OTOH the definition of "excessive" adjustments somehow eludes my understanding).
I guess it is just frustration on my part. All of the images which I have submitted to Istock so far have been accepted elsewhere - and most of them sell, despite my very small portfolio.
I think I will give it one last go in 3 months - but there is only so much work I am willing to put into it considering the amount of comission paid.
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« on: February 06, 2008, 18:05 »
As said above. I have just received another rejection and an invitation to try again in 90 days but I will most likely just give up. Simply either I am incapable of taking a good picture, or their review criteria are totally out of this world. What the reviewer says: This file contains artifacting when viewed at full size. This technical issue is commonly created by the quality settings in-camera, in post-processing or in RAWsettings. Artifacting may be the result of other factors such as excessive level adjustments. The camera: 1DMkII + 24-70/2.8L. RAW with minimum of adjustments barely touched in PS. The image didnt need adjustments, the pic was taken on white background with plenty of light, lightmeter and M mode on the camera. Saved as JPEG in CS3 with quality=12 (max). No down/up sizing. While white background may not be a perfect (255,255,255) - the clipping path was provided for the subject. Here is the full size image (one of the three rejected, the others are over 3Mb and I could not upload it). http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6921931&size=lgMy theory is that 1) They have too many submissions 2) They have a big backlog 3) They may actually be right which is why I am posting this Maybe someone more experienced and critical than me can give me some feedback ? After all, I do not claim to be the guru on artifacting but if a setup like the above does indeed produce artifacting then I would like to know what doesnt. Thanks.
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« on: February 05, 2008, 05:49 »
Thanks - this is quite informative !
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« on: February 05, 2008, 05:27 »
Thanks for the kind word  I asked the question because I don't have any reference point - being very new to the game (Yuri Accurs is NOT a reference point, he might as well be in different galaxy  )
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« on: February 05, 2008, 04:12 »
Started 5 weeks ago, so far accepted on 6 sites (still waiting to be accepted at SS and iStock). About 50 downloads so far across 5 sites (including one image with 10 downloads) - with a prtfolio of about 35 pics on average. Recently uploaded another 40, most of it is waiting for acceptance, inluding all uploads to Stockxpert.
My question - how does it look like ? Average ? Poor ? Good ? Just curious.
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« on: February 04, 2008, 18:39 »
Well, I got one sale at CS after 5 weeks with about 30 images online - so it can't be THAT bad
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« on: January 29, 2008, 05:36 »
I never had problems uploading with ProStockMaster. You just give the program your passwords, then select the images to upload to different sites, press the button - and go to sleep. In the morning all is as it should be - e.g. all images at their respective destination. Highly recommended - it does some rudimentary keywording too and keeps track of uploaded images and earnings. I have no affiliation with the software - just like it, and it will (I hope) be further developed - I provided a lot of suggestions.
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« on: January 29, 2008, 05:29 »
No, it is not a secret: blue background, 300+ images shot at 10fps (or close), some PS work
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« on: January 28, 2008, 07:09 »
Well - I only started a month ago. This one sells well at fotolia (I know that "well" means different things to different people though - but it had about 10 downlods so far  ) http://www.fotolia.com/Member/IndexContent/5549902
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« on: January 15, 2008, 06:47 »
Thanks - but does this program actually generate keywords ? I am not interested in a program where I have to come up with and type all keywords myself - I can do it in Photoshop if I want to in conjunction with some file data templates. What ProStock Master does - is you provide couple of words, and it generates a whole bunch of possibly related keywords. The result needs to be edited a bit - but is highly useful as input to Image Keyworder, where you provide the program with a word and it lists all associated words which can be then added as keywords. I was just wondering if anyone knows any similar programs.
Writing data into JPEG file is easy - I can do it myself w/o any external software (except the one I would write for this purpose if nothing was available). Generating keywords is not. Currently I have a solution - but maybe there are better ways ?
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« on: January 15, 2008, 05:07 »
Basically - I use the ProStock Master which gives me a first cut (generates 20-30 keywords from initial entry of 2-3 words). Then I remove the ones I consider irrelevant - and go through all keywords with Image Keyworder (trial version so far). It appears to produce more detailed keywords, but is a pain to use when starting w/o any keywords (that's why ProStock Master is soooooo convenient to give me the first cut in just few seconds).
Anyone has any suggestions ?
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« on: January 15, 2008, 04:55 »
Nope (it is 21:00 here in Australia, so you need to figure out yourself if this is a timely response  )
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« on: January 07, 2008, 17:18 »
Thanks - will do so ASAP.
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« on: January 07, 2008, 16:51 »
OK, my fourth submission to iStock has been rejected. What bothers me is that it has been rejected within 30 minutes from being submitted. The info on iStock site says there is over 20,000 images in a queue and the minimum waiting period is 3 days.
This has happened for the second time. Am I getting a "preferential" treatment, or is this some kind of automatic rejection without even looking at the images (hard for me to imagine that somehow I jumped right to to the top of the queue).
While the reasons for rejection are very questionable (overfiltering and arifacts - where there are none) - I think it is secondary for now. I know that some of the images I submitted have NOT been processed at all (except conversion from RAW with minimum adjestments and very moderate noise treatment) - so I put the reasons into "unfathomable" category and hope that the next time I will fare better.
The extremely speedy response, however, quoting reasons which are REALLY bewildering in some cases - is what worries me.
Anyone with similiar experience ?
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« on: December 26, 2007, 08:15 »
This is what iStock reviewers seem to think. I have attached two small images - they contain comparison of the final JPEG and unprocessed RAW files. Maybe someone could have a look and give me some tips - I am rather new at this. If larger images are needed - I can post them too. Thanks  Correction - I tried to attach a 60K JPEG - got an error message "Upload folder is full"...
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« on: December 26, 2007, 01:05 »
Thanks...
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