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I'm referring to Known Image Restrictions - Places and Landmarks - Europe and Africa https://support.submit.shutterstock.com/s/article/Known-Image-Restrictions-Places-and-Landmarks-Europe-and-Africa?language=en_US

It looks like other sites don't care about this? For example "Blenheim Palace" is restricted for SS, but plenty of images on Dreamstime?

Any experience?

iS has a list, available to contributors, of sites and things it won't accept because of legal restrictions or perceived legal restrictions.
Historically, SS was laxer; perhaps they're catching up.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: February 04, 2022, 18:06 »
I get a message that I can't opt out of the novel use until april. I don't recall opting into it. It says I opted in in 2017. Why do I have to wait until April 2022 to opt out?
That's always been the rule. It's their ball, they set the rules.

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I'm not sure that fair and Getty belong in the same sentence any more than Truth and either Trump or Boris.

Wait but you just used all five in the same sentence?
8) ;D

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iStock in the early years, did a wonderful job of marketing to artists. Lipses, (whatever those meeting were called?) how much we care about you, all the colorful frosting slathered on a fake cardboard cake.
Indeed, that was when Bruce owned it, though some of it carried forward for a while after Getty bought it.
I didn't even know about iS in those days, I joined after Getty. I did go to the iScotalypse, though.

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Then once things got strong and they had enough images, they started the rug pull. Switching levels, putting work into cheaper collections, creating sites like Thinkstock from all the smaller agencies they owned and included our work.
That was Getty.
Looks like the old Getty staff have moved over to PA/Alamy; or maybe they're conducting seminars for their rivals on how to shaft contributors.

I could never get my head around why anyone would sign a model release; with this new one, my head is exploding with incredulity.

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I'm not sure that fair and Getty belong in the same sentence any more than Truth and either Trump or Boris.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: December Payment
« on: January 28, 2022, 10:57 »
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First, check if you got an email confirming they'd paid you, and double-check by looking at the account into which the money should go.

Good point.  I never received an email saying payment was made.  I started a support ticket, but the system said I can't start a missing payment from the 25th until the the first of the following month.

 :(
It's not like you might have bills to pay.  ::)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: December Payment
« on: January 28, 2022, 09:46 »
Ah, this is on the iStock board, so I wasn't thinking about SS.
(I'm not on SS anyway.)

Oooops! I'm sorry - I didn't notice that.  :-[

Yes, that's right. istock payment was on January 21st.

I've done similar in the past, usually reversed, i.e. I've jumped into an SS thread with an iS observation.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: December Payment
« on: January 28, 2022, 08:19 »
Ah, this is on the iStock board, so I wasn't thinking about SS.
(I'm not on SS anyway.)

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: December Payment
« on: January 28, 2022, 07:45 »
I received the money on January 7.

From December's sales? That's ten days before the reporting came in.

@ OP:  Mine came in on the 21st Jan. That was PayPal.

First, check if you got an email confirming they'd paid you, and double-check by looking at the account into which the money should go.
If you are a non-US resident, check that you don't have to re-do the Tax Interview, which has to be redone every so often.
After all that, all you can do is take out a Support Ticket.
Good luck.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: NFTs and License Terms
« on: January 26, 2022, 20:28 »
One NFT was by a tennis person and you got to shoot some tennis with them on the Wimbledon pitch for an hour or so. Can't remember who, I don't know the names. Maybe the Scottish one. Or the slightly older English one.
In real life? if so, how would the NFT be different from e.g. winning a charity auction for same?

Or virtual like Stan Wawrinka?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-12/tennis-star-stan-wawrinka-jumps-into-nft-game

Or is it getting an NFT for a clip of the moment Sir Andy won Wimbledon?
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/game-set-token-murray-cashes-2013-wimbledon-win-2021-06-24
Because heaven forfend you'd want to watch it on YouTube like a pleb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PYyEDl1bJk

 ::)

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 26, 2022, 08:21 »
Once I raise an issue with them, I nowadays keep following up. Make them earn their money.
Bad news is that even though a 'use' was before the contract change, you'll get paid under the new contract rate, even though you had to do all the work of reporting the unpaid use.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: December sales are in
« on: January 24, 2022, 13:14 »

iStock  26.8
Alamy    12.4

... I made 6X more on Alamy than iStock in 2021.

That must be Old Maths ;D  ;)
What do the numbers 26.8 and 12.4 represent if Alamy made 6x more than iS?

I MADE is the part you missed? According to the survey here, IS makes roughly 3 times more, on average for other non-exclusive people.

Otherwise, yes, I have been guilty of modern math before.

Not at all; I didn't realise you were firstly quoting the poll results, which I tend to ignore!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: December sales are in
« on: January 23, 2022, 10:08 »
I closed my account at istock nearly two years ago. There are still some connect sales.
December 21, two sales at Australia - licensee fee $9,32 each, one sale in China $0,14 and one sale at New York $0,55.
Net earnings at istock $2,9.
Two years!!! What is their excuse for that - do they claim they are resales? These seem to be allowed infinitely, though how often RF buyers should rebuy is moot - unless they are re-buying to avoid ELs, which I'm sure happens.
How often do you get paid?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: December sales are in
« on: January 22, 2022, 18:02 »

iStock  26.8
Alamy    12.4

... I made 6X more on Alamy than iStock in 2021.

That must be Old Maths ;D  ;)
What do the numbers 26.8 and 12.4 represent if Alamy made 6x more than iS?

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 22, 2022, 07:03 »
Also, knowing that China does not see copyright as we in Europe and the US see it, why on earth do Alamy even want to disseminate our images there, far less in bulk at tiny prices.
There are many stolen images in China. For example, if my pics are used in a newspaper, they're showing on many Chinese sites before I even know of the sale. Alamy won't go after these image thefts, because they know they are unlikely to be successful.

There's a serious lack of joined-up thinking, reeking of some combination of desperation and/or greed. Or wanting to make a fast buck before ...?

(...and of course, that goes for Getty as well)

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 22, 2022, 06:59 »
I wonder whether in the next Shutterstock 'Trends' report they will feature themselves as starting the trend to pay peanuts to contributors.

Or was that Getty?

Getty tried to raise prices. At one point I was averaging just under $6 rpd, and others were reporting more, even over $7. But at the time SS insisted on holding their subs price right down.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 21, 2022, 14:56 »
My English is probably not good enough, because I don't understand it. The only thing I understand is that people can use photos almost for free.
I'm near-enough English speaking, and it makes no sense to me either.
Don't worry about your English, it's just inexplicable madness.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 21, 2022, 13:48 »
Really sounds as looking for straws to hold on to, especially the gaining ground on competitors. And probably they mean "not losing more ground to competitors".
Especially as Getty seems hell-bent on selling our images for peanuts to (or via?) a Chinese buyer / distributor.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: NFTs and License Terms
« on: January 21, 2022, 11:55 »
https://petapixel.com/2022/01/20/student-becomes-a-millionaire-after-turning-selfies-into-nfts-as-a-joke/
Grief, there's one born every minute.
I suppose the  secret is to exploit their idiocy.

(No-one would pay even 3c for a link to a selfie of me!)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: NFTs and License Terms
« on: January 21, 2022, 05:10 »
I think this is where Gen X gets left behind.
Whereas Baby Boomers can see that the Emperor has No Clothes.

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iStockPhoto.com / December sales are in
« on: January 19, 2022, 17:53 »
FWIW:

December was my best month of 2021: 2.5% lower than last Dec, but 54% below Dec 2020.
Dec 2021 +123% on Nov 2021.

In 2021, iS was 5% up on 2020, in contrast to my Alamy net which was 15% down compared to 2020.
Of course, my 2021 earnings were only 23% of what I made in the heady days of 2012.

Finally, iS made me 2.57x of what Alamy made me in 2021, with about 10% fewer files, averaged over the year (I've been adding a bit to both sporadically, different files to each).

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Old Thread alert!
From 2013, so presumably riffmax is over it by now ...

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 18, 2022, 09:05 »
Another quote from a long-established Alamy contributor today:
"When the recent Storm Barra was due to hit the Irish coast I got to location really early to get live news shots as it arrived. From that shoot I got 7 images used fairly quickly. Licence fee's were 0.58, 0.58, 0.63, 0.58, 0.58, 0.66, 0.66. Which never mind my time, it would not even cover the fuel to get there and back. Live news for me now is a very hard look at effort  v possible reward before the car gets started. "
https://discussion.alamy.com/topic/15213-selling-for-pennies/page/7/#comments

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 17, 2022, 09:09 »
Meanwhile, I now have five sales this month.
Gross average: $4.20, net average: $1.68.
My highest-value sale is a Personal Use sale.

That 'why sell with Alamy - what can I earn?' page should have two net averages quoted, from after the recent royalty heist:
- one for regular stock.
- and, separately, the Live News net average from after the policy change where some are sold as regular stock at deep discounts.
Otherwise, it's just false enticement (there's probably a legal term for it) as even the gross average will predictably be much lower going forward, and newbies won't average that much.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy sale for 7 cents
« on: January 15, 2022, 10:08 »
Remember that the Alamy average includes Live News sales, which typically sell for decent prices.
Though over the past few months, that seems not to be always so.
From what I read, and if I understand correctly, Alamy used to put Live News on sale immediately and push it out to its news buyers. Then after 48 hrs IIRC, the Live News images went into the general stock collection and could be bought at the buyer's usual stock rate.
It looks like now - presumably as well as the above - Live News images go straight into the general stock collection, and some previous LN buyers have cottoned on, so people are seeing their images, submitted as Live News, in use within even 24 hrs but later discover they sold at the stock rate, often heavily discounted, rather than at the Live News rate.
That will pull the average Alamy gross, as well as net, down.

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