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DepositPhotos / Re: Depositphotos Pays 0.03% Commission
« on: September 27, 2014, 01:59 »
Math is not your strong point, is it?  ::)

Its roughly 3% (which is still despicable), not 0,03%...

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They are using the same web template as StockTal and ezMediArt... Seems to be very popular at the moment.

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New Sites - General / Re: new site stocktal
« on: September 15, 2014, 06:43 »
I just don't like the categories when editing and image. Hard to find quicky the best one.
It's surprising that they removed categories so quickly, given that "The marketing research we did back in February this year was exclusively buyer centric, without completely recognizing sellers needs", which implies that they put categories in because buyers had asked for it.
Hmmm.

At least they are listening to contributers and willing to change.

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123RF / Re: Only subs this month at 123RF
« on: September 12, 2014, 07:30 »
So, after 11 days only subs, I got my first credit sale today  :D
...0,70$ for an XL  :'(

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123RF / Only subs this month at 123RF
« on: September 10, 2014, 09:53 »
On 123RF I have ONLY subscription sales this month. No credit sales at all  :o

Anybody experiencing the same? Or is it just a strange coincidence?

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New Sites - General / Re: new site stocktal
« on: September 07, 2014, 00:27 »
Hi Jack,

why is there no imprint on your website. Where I am from thats actually a legal requirement for any commercial website! And its certainly doesnt create any trust if contributors and buyers dont know who they are dealing with. A simple contact phone number and a blank email form is not enough.

You are advertising here in the MicrostockGroup. Are you advertising anywhere else as well? How are you going to attract buyers?

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Question to the owner - is there any chance that vertical images will be smaller? Now they are huge that it exceed my big monitor... The watermark is poor still and I'm waiting to upload hundreds of my images to you. Any hopes for changes?

I wrote Benji an email about that issue but never got a reply...

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General Stock Discussion / Re: ezMediArt
« on: September 03, 2014, 07:27 »
They are using the same web template for their agency than Stocktal (who pay 78%). Neither of them has an imprint on their site.

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1 Essential image in any size = 1 new Credit = 5 old Credits = 0,75$ for the photographer (at 15%)

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600 images = 500$

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Canva / Re: Canva
« on: August 17, 2014, 02:45 »
Realistically, we're not sure many of the images in that queue will ever go through, unless there's some breakthrough in the technology of creating isolations at a high standard.  And we've tested a LOT of technologies for this.  So please don't expect images that go into this queue to come out in days like a standard review queue.  Don't even expect it to be months.  :)

Well, that doesnt sound good at all!  :o
Werent the cutouts what makes Canva special? And is there any point to upload isolated images at all?  :-\

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Stockbo
« on: July 25, 2014, 02:58 »
I just saw that Sean is their "featured photographer" - with 0 files  ;D

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If the tweets are the only marketing you're doing, then that's where the sales come from.

I doubt there are many people searching images via google who actually want to license them... 

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New Sites - General / Re: UltimatStock
« on: July 24, 2014, 08:43 »
I thought I give it a try and uploaded 5 images. But I already gave up (for now) after keywording the first one...

Only 5 keywords allowed?  ???
But mandatory fields for Source, Camera, Country and more?  :'(

I dont believe many people will go through all that trouble...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Big stock free trial
« on: June 05, 2014, 00:52 »

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I got the e-mail that pretty well everyone else here did,

Hmmm. So most everybody here has gotten that email?

Is there nobody (other than me) who uploaded images but hasn't gotten it?

uploaded 20 images - received no email

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Ive been uploading for about 6 months, have 342 images there and made around 8.25 euros. Not bad for a small site.
How is that even worth your time? Honestly. How can you justify 1.35 euro per month to be not bad?

Ron, tell us again, how much are you making on Symbiostock in a month?  ::) After hosting costs of course.

I use Mostphotos basically as a free online backup. Upload is automated and I switched off subscriptions.

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The month that I make $3K just from Shutter I will officially retire from my day job!  8)

where do you live now?state?I can support my own life with 2k in here..but only me..no family kids wife ...etc

how life is different in different parts of the world. in my neck of wood 2k per month could support at least 2 full families with multiple children each. In Germany, for instance, they have average salaries that are 6 times what they are in my country.

What country is that?

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I am not happy with DP, not at all. They are dishonest!

But its DP (not Shotshot or any other partner or reseller) that pays the photographer the pitiful subscription price!
We simply do not know who much DP gets from their partners. The probably get a normal 50/50 deal.
I think its you who is naive here if you really believe that DP "allowed second parties to pay subscription prices (to us) and those people have re-licensed our images"

If you read earlier in this thread, you'll see a contributor posted the text of a reply Shotshop sent him when he applied - that they don't work with microstock photographers. There were other contributors who submit to Shotshop directly who earlier in this thread reported having work rejected as "not suitable" only to find that same work on Shotshop's site but via the DP reseller API

I realize that is circumstantial evidence, but to me it says very clearly that Shotshop does not have clean hands in this deal. And I would point out that many deals with distributors are not 50/50, so I don't think there is a normal. Those of us who have been on the receiving end of these "deals" for a while are not being naive, but circumspect.

And as you point out, we don't know what DP is paid - and you don't know either - but contributors should know about the split between agency and distributor.

Alamy, for example, (a) lets you opt out, albeit only once a year and (b) is up front about the split - 40% for the distributor, 30% for Alamy and 30% for the schmuck who created what's being licensed. I applaud their transparency, but I opted out of distributor deals as it just seemed wrong for the company that did virtually nothing to walk away with the lion's share of the payment.

I do not have to read that earlier in this thread, I know that from 1st hand experience because I am a Shotshop contributor. Unlike many others in this thread who keep posting things as "facts" that are obviously only specualtion. Some people in this forum sure like their conspiracy theories... I would rather stick to the known facts. But I guess Im the only one...

And just for the record (as I keep getting quoted and misinterpreted):
Im not defending any of the actions of either DP or Shotshop.
I have actually stopped uploading to DP and Im only waiting for my next payout.





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And the other four or five sites? We don't even know all of them. DP has allowed second parties to pay subscription prices (to us) and those people have re-licensed our images. They did this for a contract or payment or both.

This was done under the table until we discovered it. And now people are happy because they could opt out?

What is wrong with you people. DP just cheated everyone of us, did a back door deal and sold the rights to your images illegally. And now you're happy because you found out and they stopped?

Wait until the next scheme they come up with to screw us and then people will be "happy" to discover and end that one?

This is dishonest business and proves what people have said since the day DP opened. They can't be trusted. But some people are so desperate for some quarters, that they will continue to support agencies that steal and cheat us?

Just absurd and ridiculous. Wake up!


DP pays the photographer a subscription. Nobody knows how much DP gets from Shotshop.

I am not happy with DP, not at all. They are dishonest!

But its DP (not Shotshot or any other partner or reseller) that pays the photographer the pitiful subscription price!
We simply do not know who much DP gets from their partners. The probably get a normal 50/50 deal.
I think its you who is naive here if you really believe that DP "allowed second parties to pay subscription prices (to us) and those people have re-licensed our images"

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Ron, none of your posts has got anything to do with the topic this thread... Youre just touting Symbiostock and your own site  ::)

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That agency was quite happy to pay another a subscription and then offer the file at a high price - what does that say about their business ethics?


How do you know?

I think its quite possible Shotshop paid DP 50% like in a normal partner deal.
The whole "subscription" and "reseller" shenanigans DP is talking about just doesnt make any sense. You cannot re-sell what havnt bought in the first place, can you?


I didn't make the purchases, but earlier in this thread one or two users did and verified that the purchase from Shotshop resulted in a subscription download at DP. If you think they're not telling the full story, find the post and PM them to ask

Here are the links

http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/the-german-shotshop-reseller-of-depositphotos/msg365027/#msg365027

http://www.microstockgroup.com/depositphotos/the-german-shotshop-reseller-of-depositphotos/msg365039/#msg365039


DP pays the photographer a subscription. Nobody knows how much DP gets from Shotshop.


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That agency was quite happy to pay another a subscription and then offer the file at a high price - what does that say about their business ethics?

How do you know?

I think its quite possible Shotshop paid DP 50% like in a normal partner deal.
The whole "subscription" and "reseller" shenanigans DP is talking about just doesnt make any sense. You cannot re-sell what havnt bought in the first place, can you?

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I am not sure but I can not find any of my images on ShotShop anymore. When I did the original search, I remember it wasn't too easy to find mine. But now I tried with several searches for specific images and could find none of them.

So it might be that at least my images were removed from Deposit's API interface...

My files were gone from Shotshop before DP even replied to my email. I GUESS they were removed by Shotshop. Somebody on the german forum was told by Shotshop that they found a way to identify duplicate files... So if you contruibute to Shotshop yourself, the DP files should be gone.

However my files are still available at Ibudget.

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