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Doesn't Electronic Template use require  EL ?

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This topic is too hot a potato, but I have my say anyway.

I hate poverty and misery photography.

I hate it when photographers think it is cool and artsy to go to miserable places or undeveloped countries and shoot people who look ill, ugly, poor, old and miserable.

This stupid trend his so OLD and dated. Move on and shoot something NEW and MODERN!

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Thank you for the article. Everyone check it out!

I personally add the copyright notice in camera "Copyright firstname lastname"(and make sure it shows there while I do editing) and I believe the workflow for many Istock contributors is pretty much the same. So when the image is submitted the copyright information it is definitely there.

Istock has the nerve to dilute Copyright to wishy washy "credit line". They have to be stopped, or other agencies will follow suit.


I am not going to look up the law for the sake of this post, but I am pretty sure it is illegal to remove a copyright notice from a creative work in the US.

although i found this: "Removing or altering a copyright notice from an image or stripping metadata from the picture file is a violation of the DMCA.  A person can be liable for between $2,500 and $25,000 plus attorneys fees for removing from a work what the DMCA calls copyright management information from a work". Murphy v. Millenium Radio Group LLC and McClatchey v. Associated Press

http://www.photolaw.net/did-someone-remove-the-copyright-notice-from-your-photograph.html

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Anyone uploading this week? Xams?
« on: December 21, 2016, 16:34 »
If the potential buyer out there is happy spending Xmas hols and relaxing, eating and being merry, on the average they are not likely to think work and buy images.
Also I deserve some time off uploading stock ☺ and for me the best time in the year is about now...
Happy holidays everyone !

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The question still remains, WHY is Istock changing 'Copyright' to 'Credit Line'?
What do they gain from it? (They are NOT doing this for nothing)

Copyright is clear. Credit Line is fuzzy. Do they want to blur terms in their advantage to rob more rights from us? (My guess is YES THEY DO)

What are we going to do about it?

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as far as i know meta data is stripped from the file when you buy it, i have bought images without any meta data whatsoever

As far as I've seen you are correct. The agencies all strip out our personal data, before they put it on their catalog. The file loses anything to connect to the artist. Just another way to make it easier for misuse and thiefs.

Alamy list me as Contributor

I actually spoke with a copyright attorney about the issue of agencies stripping metadata from our images, and all he could tell me was there haven't been any cases about it in US courts, so for the time being it's perfectly legal.
Something wrong with this line of reasoning. No such cases in US courts does not make the conduct legal or acceptable.
There just hasn't been any court cases as yet.


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Your copyright should be in the metadata of your file in the picture

Yes it should, and probably for most of us it is, but who is going to look there?

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If we let them remove Copyright, other agencies will follow. Image buyers may understand what Copyright means but to many Credit Line is nothing. This may just be the time to leave this devil agency.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Strange Email about My Image
« on: November 30, 2016, 10:02 »
Sorry to hear about this scary incident that happened to you.
I agree with others, the Hotmail address and language they use spell SCAM. "Full proof", threats, simple language etc is just the kind of language spammers, scammers and phishers would use. They will make you feel like you have no options but to act quickly. If you clicked any link on the emails they sent, scan your emails and computer very carefully for malware, spyware and viruses like somebody already suggested.
If you have the materials that you used for the image, that's good, keep them, but I would not be worried if I were you. You know it is your image and you can easily prove it if necessary!

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Thank you for your replies. It's probably true that this is nothing to lose sleep over. In this latest case the file was most likely purchased from Istock.
The buyer probably doesn't know and care how they can use these images, after all they have paid a fortune of them...

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Hi all,
Just lately I've seen some of my Editorial photos used in social media in either promoting or advertising a product. No photographer credit line. They've all been mid-size or small businesses doing this, and I don't know where they have purchased the images. In one incident I was quite sure the source was Bigstock (and still am) and wrote in, but they denied it and nothing followed.

It is perfectly clear that images of property, featuring a logo, etc, or people, need appropriate releases and without them the contributor will need to sell them under Editorial.
It's not OK that the buyers are using them in advertising. The photographer/ contributor is the one who will face the blame and responsibility eventually, everyone will ask "who took this photo?" and no one blames the buyer who used it wrongly.

What would you do in a situation like this? Any help/insight will be welcome.







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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Royalty Change
« on: November 09, 2016, 14:52 »
I don't think Istock will ever agree to 50% although this is what we really should be getting. 25 or 30% would be more realistic.
Haven't uploaded anything in a few weeks anyway,  at the moment either keeping my existing port there or closing my account,  depending on how things turn out.

Look forward to signing the petition.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Input for a Getty petition
« on: November 08, 2016, 03:13 »
Hi,

(3)
b. In addition to the foregoing grant iStock and its Distribution Partners may post, reproduce, modify, display, make derivative works or otherwise use any Accepted Content for their own business purposes relating to the promotion of the iStock Site, the Content and their distribution programs, and promote the licensing of Accepted Content (including, without limitation, the use of the Accepted Content and your registered and unregistered trademarks for marketing, sales and promotional efforts whether on the iStock Site or through third parties). No compensation shall be due to you for use of Accepted Content for such business purposes.

"Without limitation"
"third parties"
These concern me.




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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Input for a Getty petition
« on: November 07, 2016, 03:29 »
When you log on you Istock account, select  Contributor tools, then Upload and in red there is this notification


"On December 1, 2016 the ASA will be amended. Click here to see the form of Agreements that will be effective December 1. If you upload content prior to December 1 or fail to terminate your current ASA by sending us notice before December 1, you will be deemed to have agreed to the new ASA. Please see our October 31 email for more information."
 
The huge range of rights Getty claim to our images concern me. It seems we now grant Getty unlimited user rights if we continue uploading?


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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Input for a Getty petition
« on: November 06, 2016, 05:56 »
Sorry if I missed something, but  what if anything does the petition say about the rights that Getty claims to our work on the new ASA?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: istockphoto ASA amended
« on: November 02, 2016, 15:26 »
Up

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General Stock Discussion / Stock Photos and Social media use
« on: October 31, 2016, 16:49 »
Are there any stock agencies any more  that would NOT allow social media use (or at least restrict it) for stock images?

Just found 4 of my photos in somebody's Facebook at 1800*1200 and it is frustrating to get few cents from them and now they are practically free photos to share with no copyright information. 

Is there a way to sell images without having to deal with the Facebook monster? How?


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I have a graphic design company which I run for 10 years now. A logo doesn't have to be trademarked. By definition, a logo is a graphic mark, emblem, or symbol commonly used by commercial enterprises, organizations and even individuals to aid and promote instant public recognition. Logos are either purely graphic (symbols/icons) or are composed of the name of the organization (a logotype or wordmark).

So, how is a commercial enterprise, organization or individual supposed to use an image like this, if not to promote public recognition of their company, event or product?

It's essentially an icon, something that iconifies something.
SS should be selling this only as editorial. This is a well known logo esp in Europe.

Who's logo is it?
This logo is Scania Griffin. It refers  both to the 100 year old vehicle manufacturer and the province of Scania in Sweden. There are different versions of it through time. This one is missing the crown but the rest of it is same and EXTREMELY identifiable as in the later versions of the logo. The Scania coat of Arms with the griffin dates back to the 1400s!
 
If someone here claims they designed the Scania Griffin, well, good luck!






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I have a graphic design company which I run for 10 years now. A logo doesn't have to be trademarked. By definition, a logo is a graphic mark, emblem, or symbol commonly used by commercial enterprises, organizations and even individuals to aid and promote instant public recognition. Logos are either purely graphic (symbols/icons) or are composed of the name of the organization (a logotype or wordmark).


So, how is a commercial enterprise, organization or individual supposed to use an image like this, if not to promote public recognition of their company, event or product?



It's essentially an icon, something that iconifies something.

SS should be selling this only as editorial. This is a well known logo esp in Europe.

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Bigstock.com / Re: not uploading
« on: October 20, 2016, 01:50 »
Opening this thread because I'm having pretty much all of these upload problems mentioned still. Anyone else? Filezilla used to work but it does only on and off.

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Well, I don't know.

Getty and other stock agencies are the ones to display our work, and they fail to protect them with proper watermarks. Thumbnails have no watermark and Getty/Istock has the largest, in many cases poorly watermarked, image preview in the industry.

Getty's petition is like leaving ones wallet unattended in the middle of a busy market square and then crying and whining when somebody steals it.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: IStock 2048x1365 image preview
« on: September 14, 2016, 04:12 »
Removing those watermarks is easy for an average Photoshop user and yes, XS and S image sizes are used most on web. From Istock they can download 2048x1365 quality preview, "fix" it and resize to make sure it looks neat. They will end up with images large enough for web use.

Using the thumbnails free is easy too. It's easy to enlarge them, take a screenshot and save just by some keyboard clicks.
Looks like the new policy of the microstock agencies is "let's throw the images out there and maybe somebody will actually pay"

Anyway, I have stopped uploading to Istock for the time being and will email Istock support.
Do the same!

Is it still possible to disable images from Istock? Or do we need to have their consent now?



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iStockPhoto.com / IStock 2048x1365 image preview
« on: September 13, 2016, 07:52 »
I don't know how long it's been there, but I was quite shocked to notice today the 2048 x 1365 image preview & download at Istock. Downloaded two of my own images at that size...

Some square images can be downloaded at 2048 X 2048.

Don't know if there is a thread already about this, but I find this quite shocking. Images with a light background and lots of white are under little or practically no protection.

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Photography Equipment / Re: This I believe is truth
« on: September 13, 2016, 05:16 »
Apps to apes.

Social media (& vanity it feeds) is death also to humanity. Just look at people walking with their eyes glued on the phone.
See the human evolution going reverse & posture dropping back to the chimp style.


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Shutterstock.com / Re: New Photoshop plugin for search and purchase
« on: September 13, 2016, 02:51 »
Yes.

Even more, I am very worried that they can alter EDITORIAL IMAGES.
We photographers have strict rules as to what to do, how to crop & enhance the photo, but general public are now INVITED to do whatever.
Guess who will face the blame of that "result".





Anyone else bothered that they can edit and alter the watermarked images BEFORE licensing them?  Shouldn't you at least need a license to alter someone else's copyrighted material?

Also, for the SS plugin will we be getting OD pricing, or are they going to slip this in with subscription royalties?

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