While I don't know the specific circumstances surrounding this - people 'should' be building their own websites/customer lists/etc to prevent that kind of thing from happening...

Quote from: SuperPhoto on May 29, 2024, 11:05

Quote from: derby on May 29, 2024, 10:28

Quote from: whatwolf on May 29, 2024, 09:12

The first of all, everyone who use Midjourney, could get images with THE SAME QUALITY.
WHY I produce 100k simlilar files?
I produce 4 images in one prompt. I don�t use any repeated prompts unless the images are really good at selling.

When you have more than 100000 or 200000 or more ai images, WHAT TO CREATE is meaningless. I CREATE EVERY THING.

Well, yes, not only you but everyone can create anything, this is no more a breaking news, it's more than one year that Midjourney is on its way.
And in one year we saw boith traditional photography and AI images that sells well.
So I'm not agree with you, what you're talking aboout is quite overtaked... There are actually billions of AI images in Adobestock and, you guess, traditional photography is still selling.
Sorry but I'm not agree with you, you seems to be a little outdated. Actually the best sellers are quality images not quantity, as quantity is something that anyone can have access to.
My opinion, of course

One BIG thing is... people should be focusing on getting midjourney to pay authors RETROACTIVELY for the STOLEN works they made their tool based on, as well as set up a system for RECURRING PERPETUAL works going forward. discuss that. that is effective.

I agree with you but unfortunately this will never happen.

regarding AI content,quantity is certainly the winning strategy.

better to generate many more than you need and then carefully select the best ones,rather than waste too much time in postproduction.

I have recently developed a new system in postproduction,which allows me to speed up my work considerably,whilst maintaining an excellent standard of quality.

It took me several tries and several steps before I achieved this strategy,but it works,my approval rate is very high,and the content is of excellent quality,but above all I can go much faster now. 

Why do you believe that, and believe you could speak on behalf of an entire industry?
It would only 'never happen' if no one did anything and just whined and complained. Of course it can happen and it will happen, providing people first become aware of it as a possibility (in process), and then people taking coordinated action. Then it will happen. And authors will be compensated retroactively for their stolen works, as well as receive perpetual revenue in the future should they choose to license those works going forward.

My educated guess would be probably he 'made' between $10-$15k usd with that strategy (over 1-1.5 years, or since whenever he started doing the AI stuff)... Now, whether that is 'worth' it, I dunno... There's people with 1/20th the size in portfolio (or even smaller) who do exactly the same revenue, or better.

It depends on:
a) Is it in demand/useful content?
b) Does it get discovered (i.e., 'unique', good promotion/etc)
c) Then some images just tend to get really lucky and go on wild selling streaks, doesn't seem to be any reason why, it just happens (i.e., say 1k+ sales for a single image)...

So if he is just spamming the crap out of the images, hoping something sticks - while that is certainly 'one' strategy... not sure if it is the most effective strategy...
Now of course, if he has really top notch images, that is a different thing... but not sure whether that is the case from the sounds of it...

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don't get hung up on these details "skip the photoshoot".

it's just a promotional slogan,it's not intended to offend or undermine photographers,it's simply what it is,with Firefly you can skip the photoshoot,it's simply reality!

I agree with you. It's making a big issue out of really nothing, some people looking to be offended and feel self righteous about.

Also though - generally speaking it is a 'business tactic' some heads of certain corporations use to attack other corporations - and there is one specific culture that uses it as an actual TACTIC (attempting to discredit competitors to affect stock prices/shares/etc while simultaneously pretending to be a 'victim') - and lol - some people get SUPER "offended" about it if you say what their background is because they've been PROGRAMMED to act that way through schooling (look @ the ppl running midjourney/chatgpt/bloomberg/etc - what do they all have in common?). It's SUPER ODD "nobody" is saying anything about Midjourney (which is based on theft), ChatGPT (which is based on theft)... but "nobody" in the media is complaining about actual theft (hint: the "media" companies owned by the same people running/promoting the chatgpt/midjourney)... but instead whining about "being offended" by a ridiculous thing they shouldn't be "offended" by...

Quote from: SuperPhoto on May 25, 2024, 06:49

Sounds like 6 or 7 year old female child wrote it.

Ugh. Why on earth did you feel the need to write female there?

"ugh." why on earth you did you feel the need to feel offended because that was written there?

(a) because it actually was written by a female. read the signature.
(b) because it sounds like it was written by a female. if it sounded like it was written by a male, I would have said that instead.

the significance of that statement is the age. the letter sounds like it was written by an impetuous female child throwing a temper tantrum, not written by a mature woman with a well thought out letter, detailing specifically exactly how a particular ad campaign actually effects other photographers, and a specific resolution of what she would request by done on behalf of the members to having a more amicable business relationship going forward.

the is very immature letter and sounds like it is written by a female child throwing a temper tantrum because her feelings were hurt, and she wants to take her ball and go home.

That particular letter is poorly written and very ineffective. It doesn't really serve any purpose at all. Sounds like 6 or 7 year old female child wrote it.

It is a waste of time, essentially a pouty letter, saying "hmm! we are mad. Bleah! So THERE!".

Also - if the author, acting on behalf of that organization is "mad" at adobe - because they 'perceive' it to be an 'attack' - how about the ACTUAL corporations like midjourney which are OPENLY STEALING and attacking photographers? Midjourney's "business model" is based pretty much ENTIRELY OFF OF THEFT. That is how the images are "created" - STOLEN images. Other google funded services (i.e., some of the vidgen stuff) is also 100% based off of THEFT... Go after THOSE companies. The ones ACTUALLY STEALING AND "attacking" photographers and videographers.

Yes, it's very slow + sometimes doesn't load at all.

I suspect someone is probably hammering the site (dos attacks/etc).

Sunday at 5 pm I checked my weekly position and it was blank - previous week is closed and I didn�t sell anything for the next week yet. Curious that�s the first time that I saw my position as blank.

Must mean you are invisible! OH NOES!

Lol. In seriousness, no - it seems there are 1-2 hrs on a sunday from when it closes out the week and makes a new ranking. If you don't sell anything in that 1-2 hrs, then its 'blank'.

I just checked and Motion Array did take down the portfolio but Videohive did not... they just changed the name of the portfolio

What is the new name on envato?

My point would be, not denying what you have observed, honest or not, or however you want to label your comments about the truth and reality of things.

You can attack a subject, or an activity, and point out something is wrong, without calling out an entire group of people, for what some individuals do.

I am not politically correct or woke, but I do stand up when it comes to generalizations about entire cultures, races, regions or religions, based on a smaller number of that population who are anti-social, criminal or only see the world, from a self-serving perspective.

I did articulate that it did not apply to 'everyone'. However, the statements are based off of actual data, correlation between specific types of people who do that, personal experience in working with/dealing a number of different races & cultures, as well as open discussions with a number of people who openly admit that's precisely the kind of thing they do - and it for the most part actually does apply to the majority. 'Stereotypes' are stereotypes for a reason, because they do tend to be accurate, or wouldn't have become a stereotype. Glad to hear you aren't "woke" though lol. (I admit - 4 years ago when the media started publishing being "awake" and "woke" I thought they were the same thing - thinking someone 'woke up' and was now 'awake', not realizing of course they are in many ways polar opposites).

But then I suppose that is why some (of course, not all - because some microstockers are very intelligent) - but referrering specifically to some microstockers are on here whining & complaining like children, because they are not international businessmen, but rather hoping they can stick their head in the sand and if they throw a big enough tantrum, someone might do something.

But I'll agree with that one! 
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Sounds good!

probably because shutterstock doesn't care, has done a lot of unethical things in the past, continues to do so now.

i managed to get a whole 1 asset into the drive they did back in june, just wondering what the usual cadence is for this offering.

I think they do it 1x/year, since if I recall correctly it is a 1 year 'free' license they offer.

Quote from: SuperPhoto on May 11, 2024, 09:17

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b) If you somehow eliminated that situation (simple solution, don't approve east indian accounts, and disable existing ones post jan 2023 when the media made a co-rodinated annoucement to 'officially' bring public awareness to theft-based ai, even though it's already existed for years, side topic - most high level "media" (i.e., t.v. "news") is XXXX run, and most big "ai" companies (i.e., midjourney, chatGPT, etc) are XXX run -......

your anti-semitic libels are uncalled for  (marked in red above), as are your continued slams against all 1+ billion East Indians

Lol - the comments aren't "anti-semetic" -  (and you should actually look up the definition of what a "semite" is). The ownership is in factJewish, and it is a well known fact withinJewish circles - that that is one of the things you do for "business". Please don't be manipulated. Look @ the ownership of the companies, follow the money. It's also sad but simultaneously funny that you have become so "triggered" that uttering the word "jewish" makes you feel compelled to write red "xxxx"'s (understandable though as schooling is designed to program that response in people). As an aside, other "words" are designed to make people "triggered". I'm assuming you probably get triggered with hearing the word "covid" actually 'believing' it was real because of all the tell-a-vision programming you received the last 4 years? That was also a scam/con designed to simultaneously inject ppl w/poison while stealing their money via things like inflation (money printing), because they had been conned into believing they were sick while suffocating themselves and breathing in poisons from the masks? (Spoiler alert: the "sickness" was from poisons on the masks/tests/etc, as well as the co-ordinated pyschological operations on the general populace, i.e., things like isolation tactics, etc) - also designed to get people to 'believe' in it like a religion. Different topic though.

With respect to east indians "in general" - it's also a fact - it isn't a "slam". Simply look @ the accounts that do fraud, and the names/locations of the account holders. Or join a few facebook groups/watch a few east indian videos on youtube where they promote the "latest business model" of simply "downloading complete portfolios and re-uploading them to make $$$". And if you read what I  wrote - instead of having a knee-jerk programmed response - you would see I say its not "all" east indians - BUT - the majority of the "fake" accounts, whack-a-mole accounts, etc are indeed, created by east indians in east india. And again - not the "only" country - but one of the dominant ones. It would be quite simple really to "stop theft" in general (i.e., downloading complete portfolios from unlimited download sites then re-uploading) - just don't approve those accounts. It's also quite simple to do a couple programmatic checks to verify that isn't the case - but the blackrock/vanguard consoritorium of companies (also, incidentally jewish run, look up the ownership) - want to encourage that kind of behaviour to manipulate people into 'demanding' to be 'saved', via their 'solution', aka things like a 'digital id'/'id2020.org' (which is actually very very bad, and has a lot of nefarious purposes). Also a completely different topic, but accurate as well.

As an aside - assuming you don't actually speak any other languages other than English, is that correct? Most other cultures have no issues calling a spade a spade, it's primarily western countries via the education system that have been "trained" through schooling to be "afraid" of stating the obvious, lest they be 'perceived' in a less than "authority approved" favourable light.