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Messages - Jo Ann Snover
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« on: August 04, 2014, 13:33 »
That was a long nap
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« on: August 04, 2014, 13:30 »
Thanks for the links. I wouldn't rule an agency out on the basis of 30% royalties, but there are some other pricing and terms things that seem very strange to me. They want to charge $30 for a 12mp file. I have a choice of 40 million of those for $15 each from Shutterstock (two images $29, one year to buy). Why would anyone buy from them (for the non- exclusive content)? 40% royalties for exclusive content seems unreasonable. They're new with no sales track record. It's a big ask to look for exclusive sets for that money. The exclusive pricing is odd. Small size is $25 vs. $8 for non-exclusive but "super" is $70 (versus $30) - it's not 3x across the price range. The extended license pricing is insane - no one will buy at those prices for non-exclusive content. The incentive system is odd too. They aren't paying for uploads ('cause if you upload and never sell you make nothing) but they will pay 5% extra if you upload 200+ in a calendar year. You don't get any more than 5% so they might seem some odd patterns of irregular uploads. I'd hold some back at the end of the year to get my extra 5% quickly at the beginning of the following year. Not thrilled about the 30 day hold on termination - just because they're new and an unknown quantity - but it seems reasonable. A $100 payout level is fine for an established agency, but I think a new agency could lower payout levels for the first year or so to encourage contributors to give it a shot. So who are the people behind it and what is their plan to separate themselves from 500px, Stocksy, Getty, Shutterstock and Uncle Tom Cobley and all? In the (rather empty) forums I see "Emperor Alan" saying they're in a unique position but not elaborating on why that is - or what he's emperor of exactly
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« on: August 04, 2014, 11:40 »
Not sure what that test would be, but there's no information on the site at all about price, license, terms or anything else. If and when they make all of the nuts and bolts information available, I'll have a read.
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« on: August 04, 2014, 11:37 »
So the Thinkstock gig is still there http://www.fiverr.com/nanico/send-you-10-high-quality-stock-photos-illustrations-or-vectors-you-want--10
Indeedy. On 8th April I got this reply from iStock's CR: "Thank you for reaching out to us. Please know that our Compliance Team is continuously monitoring these nuisance posts and working towards having them removed when possible. Please keep in mind that if a 3rd party does take up one of these requests and then uses the image(s), they are doing so without a license and would be held accountable for that. Regards,"
And in August, that gig is still there. Hard to rank the dirtbags here - the outfit offering the gig, Fiverr, Getty or the people buying it (who have to know these items aren't legit). That blog post ($5 logo) is priceless - thanks for posting a link.
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« on: August 01, 2014, 22:45 »
If you're thinking about having a long term future selling stock (photos? answer might vary a bit depending on your medium or media) I honestly think you'd do better to stay independent. Long time iStock exclusives are (for the most part) experiencing huge drops in downloads, and in many cases income as well. There is only so long you can put up prices to counter falling downloads and decreasing royalty percentages (you only get 20% on Getty). Not only is iStock not doing well at the moment but Getty is struggling a bit too (you can read up about the two private equity funds who've burdened them with debt as they took massive amounts of money out of the business to pay themselves "dividends") If you keep selling through Shutterstock and other sites that raise your royalty rate the more you sell, I think you'll do better than gambling that iStock can pull out of its current nosedive. I'm an indie-exclusive-indie so I did see the really, really good side of iStock exclusivity, but that was then... I'll give you the opposing point of view from the July sales thread on iStock (I just went to have a look and it is something you should read as you consider exclusivity). Most of the entries are very gloomy, but there is this very upbeat comment from one exclusive: "Small port, but absolutely thrilled with being a new exclusive. In July 2013, revenues were $1.54 for 4 non-exclusive iStock only sales. In July 2014, revenues were $26.48 for 5 exclusive iStock only sales. It's the same trend for year-to-date. Very inspiring, at least so far. Honestly, I can't believe anyone would question the benefits of exclusivity." This is a contributor with 385 images and between 300 and 400 sales. If 5 sales a month seems good to you (it isn't) then I guess exclusivity might be for you too
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« on: August 01, 2014, 18:42 »
So after looking around and thinking about this site some more (and noting that the pirated images mentioned in an earlier post had been removed) I decided to give this a try. I only have one item in my store so far! https://creativemarket.com/JoAnnSnover/63089-Old-fashioned-photo-albumI think I'll upload some layered PSDs of images that were either for personal use or are variants of what I sell for stock (I don't upload anything straight from the camera, so everything is a layered PSD file, but some are not all that interesting to upload that way). As I can't upload PSDs anywhere, this might be a nice add on if buyers are interested. The uploading process is very much geared around unique items, not mass upload, so I can't imagine having the patience to just stick my stock images up there as is, but (a) they may improve it and (b) it gives me an option to upload something different from any other site. I'll report back on how things progress (but there'll be a hiatus for a bit as August = vacation  )
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« on: July 31, 2014, 21:30 »
...what do you think? has the business changed much?
Yes, a lot. In some ways things have improved - I had an $82 license in with my subscription sales and on demand sales from Shutterstock today. I wouldn't have had that when I started with them in 2004  That was my entire September earnings from them in 2005. When I started with 123rf I had to snail mail a paper contract to Inmagine and they made my account for me because things were just getting started for them. All they did then were subscriptions. Fotolia was a promising newbie in 2005 - they really woke everyone up to the importance of offering a site in local languages and currencies. Possibly everyone would have figured that out in time, but the other sites followed them into localizaing their offerings. They have descended into a thuggish and unethical pit. iStock improved a ton - I viewed 2010 as a banner year up until Sept of that year - and then turned to the dark side and is now worse - in terms of how things are for independent contributors than they were when I joined them. For so long they were the leader and they're now just a mess. Dreamstime is just the little engine that couldn't. They (and CanStock) have been around since 2004 and neither of them could ever really get a good market position for themselves. They have a pricing system that makes iStock look simple and that I would think is just very confusing for credit (versus subscription buyers). They sold us subscriptions with the promise that it would earn more for higher level images and then backed away from that. They've cut our percentages drastically from the original 50% and none of that has been able to vault the agency into major player status. Personally, my images are a ton better than they were when I started. The agencies used to be more attentive to contributor concerns when they were newer and smaller and needed us more. The extent to which they have exploited their success to grab a larger share of the pie for themselves (and their private equity backers) is a real lesson in unfair trade. Some of the agencies that were around in the early years have folded - Gimmestock, Albumo, Lucky Oliver, Snap Village, StockXpert, Pocketstock.... Some of them (like Albumo) not in the least bit lamented. Lots and lots never get off the ground, probably because they were just chasing a money maker versus had any real interest in building and running an agency. It's hard to remember that once upon a time iStock, Dreamstime and CanStock were innovators. So things are both better and worse than they were
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« on: July 31, 2014, 20:54 »
Feel free to mention your Pros/Cons toughts also on the buyers side too.
I don't sell through Fotolia any more so I can't speak as a contributor, but I was pretty active in spreading the word about what a complete disaster this program is for contributors. Volume discounts with no volume commitments. Those who have been persuaded to stay with the program have probably been given a boost in the Fotolia search results as a reward, and thanks to the large chunk of opted out content, they're lucky that they haven't seen a hit to their income elsewhere. It's burying your head in the sand to think this is how things would continue if everyone offered their content to such destructive (for contributors) schemes. Buyers don't turn on a dime - they have credits or subscriptions that they need to use up first. Seeing no immediate tanking of sales should not be mistaken for a sign of the longer term future. From a buyer's point of view, if you could get all the greatest content at those flea market prices without having to do more than commit $10 a month it's great - why wouldn't you take that? It's up to contributors to starve the sleazy deals of content - or at least of the latest or best content. I agree that if Fotolia had tried to offer a bargain bin site and had let contributors decide what to offer at the lower prices it would have been a great idea. But that wouldn't have given them the big splash headlines (which I expect are all about pleasing their private equity investors who are looking for some money to pay themselves a nice big dividend. I find it both amazing and exceedingly dispiriting that so many of the bigger contributors stayed with this. Sort of like the proverbial turkeys voting for thanksgiving...
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« on: July 31, 2014, 20:43 »
Mostly agree, but GL and Crestock are way worse.
Sorry, I forgot about GL Stock - they are worse (although very fair when they do sell; 52% and decent prices)  I've never been with Crestock, so I have no idea (but I've not heard anything good about them recently)
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« on: July 31, 2014, 12:49 »
I like CS but July was a total blank - 0 sales. Better to focus on the Top 3.
Don't agree- I had 25 sales with CanStockPhoto this July. Only have about 2,500 images on their site thus okay in my eyes.
I have had that number of sales with a 2,600 file portfolio and I think it's pathetic. Every other site bar Stockfresh and Alamy can beat that, and in many cases with a much smaller portfolio size. I have had more sales at Canva (still in beta) where I have about 150 images online! The appeal of CanStock (except for illustrators who seem to do better than photographers there) used to be the occasional Fotosearch sales for much higher prices, but the last one of those (excluding subscriptions) was at the beginning of April (for $15.80) and I have to go back to last year in July and August for the two prior. In other words, they're so few and far between they have little impact. For the moment I'm leaving my portfolio there, but they're already on the edge as they don't allow opt out from partner sales, so it wouldn't take much for me to reconsider staying
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« on: July 30, 2014, 16:46 »
It's good to hear how people are doing with new sites - thanks for posting. Shame you can't be featured photographer though - you have images in your gallery
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« on: July 29, 2014, 20:10 »
...This is a 15 second exposure, taken at f16 and the hyperfocal length, on a sturdy tripod, using a D810 and a 24mm pc-e. Everything is in focus. Their reason? "Focus--Subject is blurry, too soft, or out of focus when viewed at full resolution."
You've got to be kidding me.
I realize this will sound asinine, but I'm guessing their pre-review software identified significant areas not in focus - probably because of the blurry water (which you intended to be that way) and the particular inspector wasn't on the ball enough to realize this was fine. I have participated in many threads about problems with SS inspections on non-studio shots of various kinds (and at the moment am taking a break from uploading there as I had just had it with the inconsistent inspection process). You can read them (here and in the SS forums). It's nonsense but as long as they get a largish pile of new content each week they're happy so I don't expect them to improve things. Which means that you can resubmit with a note explaining the water focus and it's likely it'll be accepted. Or move on if you don't have the patience to jump through the additional hoop.
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« on: July 29, 2014, 13:44 »
downloads are 56% down from July 2013 and money 40% down. The month isn't over, but I've just been seeing one or two sales each weekday this month, which means effectively it doesn't matter unless there's a few ELs in the next couple of days.
The dropping download numbers are bothersome in that it suggests customers are moving elsewhere (obviously it could mean that it's just my files that no longer sell). By comparison, SS's downloads are roughly the same this as July 2013 ($$ are lower because of fewer ELs and SODs) and 123rf's are up 30% so it's not an overall fall across the board.
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« on: July 28, 2014, 19:14 »
Seems to work for me now - both using the original link you posted and taking the space from the URL in your post above.
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« on: July 28, 2014, 16:42 »
... But you can't have buyers looking at the same images for ten years or you'll start losing sales altogether.
That's true, but you can easily have a few alternatives to Best Match - which should, IMO, be heavily keyword weighted. You can have Most Downloaded and Popular - where the former is absolute downloads and the latter some downloads per month/week/quarter. You could name popular Hot, or Trending or some such. MyFonts has Hot New Fonts and Best Sellers - I think both are useful and other than arguing about which should be the default, I don't see any reason the buyer shouldn't have a range of sort options (including, at agencies with multiple pricing, price).
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« on: July 28, 2014, 00:18 »
I used your first link and if I type a keyword (I used beach but food worked too) and press return then I get your global search. It's pressing on the Go button next to the site name that does nothing.
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« on: July 27, 2014, 20:14 »
I tried to use this (Chrome & Firefox, Mac) and couldn't get anything to display - clicking the Go button didn't produce anything (or appear to be trying to access anything - no status messages or Connecting...).
I tried one or two keywords, different sites from the dropdown list and thumbs as well as Gallery.
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« on: July 25, 2014, 22:40 »
People ignored micro stock for a long time because it was small and new - there wasn't a lot of money at stake. Lawyers come calling more when the money is there
There is no "we're new" free pass now as crowd sourced content - the maker movement - is over a decade old. New entrants learn from the mistakes of the pioneers
I'm not so much opposing Mike as putting another viewpoint. He's not a photographer and I'm not an illustrator. We both have something to add to the discussion
If you were to build a Pinto now, you couldn't defend yourself against the lawsuits over gas tanks exploding by saying you didn't know. You need to get up to speed with the state of the business now, not start from zero each time
I care about the business as a whole, not just what I do, because if I invest time and energy to get my work there, that can be for naught if the business is shuttered over legal issues. Not to mention that I think things like this will deter business customers. They'll worry about the legal safety of licensing there
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« on: July 25, 2014, 17:42 »
I didn't know about Autodesk buying them - other than articles on a few other sites from March, I didn't see anything else about what the acquisition will mean.
However, with a larger parent company, I have to believe they'll start to be concerned about the photos that show brand names and protected designs that can't be licensed commercially. They could offer an editorial license to make this work, but it seems the photo section has no one ensuring that the work is safe for a buyer to license. I'm guessing that as they began as "mousemade deisgns" they just don't know enough about licensing photos.
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« on: July 25, 2014, 17:14 »
Thanks - I see it now I scroll down  I have a 27" monitor and the main image fills that. It never even occurred to me to scroll down! In the "It's all about you" section, clicking on a number of the icons produces just a name and "This gallery is empty". Doesn't look so good, IMO. I would hope for photographs from a featured photographer - I guess the newbie Mr. Locke has to stop being so lazy and create something
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« on: July 25, 2014, 17:05 »
"...Concerning your royalties: I recommend you to reactivate all your portfolio and join our updated API re-seller program to start selling again. I can't promise but if you expand you portfolio and your sales grow, you will be moved to the next level with higher commissions."
Did I read that right? Is he saying you'd maybe be given a boost other than by the normal process of more sales if you give them another chance? And if he can't promise, what exactly is that statement worth?
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« on: July 25, 2014, 15:05 »
I just saw that Sean is their "featured photographer" - with 0 files 
Where do you see a featured photographer? I just went to the site and couldn't find anything - I don't have an account, so is it something you have to be logged in to see?
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