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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 16:27 »
what a bunch of stupidity.. being an immigrant from rumen in usa make you so nervous about that theme? i travel all the world love ukraine and russsia, indian african but this don't deny th fact that most of spammers and thieves in shtterstock come from these country. and has nothing to do with politics or xenophobia...i already said find 10 20 thieves from france, or usa...i expect.
Well, to be frank, most of the image/article thieves I've found have been in China.
That and an Irish lawyer who is refusing to answer emails or speak to me on the phone, or reply to letters. After similarly dissing Alamy.
. China is an ethic national... nking if respect of copyright of others))  wit for zero brain to attack you as racist and haters of chinese people

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 16:26 »
Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

Disproportionate? India has 1.35 billion people. 10 thieves is 0.0000007% of Indians.
USA has 325 million pops. 1 thief from USA is proportional to 4 thieves from India.
So comparing 4 thieves against 10 thieves is more or less in the same ballpark and I would not call that disproportionate.

Our dear xenophobe, should also add, as per some recent reports, Serbia, Brunei and Turkey to his list of cheating nations which already includes, Russia, Ukraine, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China, Algeria and of course, even if not on his list, USA.

If I compare 10 thieves from India with 1 thief from Serbia (out of 7 million pops), then proportionally Serbs are bigger thieves than Indians. But nobody steal as much as people from Brunei. Yes, Brunei people, with 1 thief out of 480,000 pops are the biggest thieves on the planet.

Again, it is a Shutterstock problem, thieves are everywhere.

you are sick man...go and detoxicate from trumps....really...10 are this found by a guy in a bunch of hour understand? there are hundred are, and more coming. i suggest you..live your * sofa in usa , country who welcome you as immigrant...and go live in india and open a * business..then come back year and talk again, and this has nothing to do with racism.....has to do   with the lack of any * rules who me and you consider  normal business law...go in china and open a * business ...o and visit some place where workers live and work 24 hours without any rules.

You think of yourself as sociologist able to understand and explain the root cause of certain behavioral patterns (because of poverty, communism, corruption, bad social fabric, etc, etc, etc...)
Let me break some news for you: you are NOT a sociologist, you are a xenophobe. Sociologists are always attempting to explain why people behave in certain ways, by using advanced statistics to prove their hypothesis.
It's not as simple as you think. Analyzing 10 cases means nothing statistically. 0.0000007% means nothing. These people may well be part of a forum or some group, where a dishonest idea has been shared. In other words, that group is very different than the rest population or contributors from that country you wrongfully accused. It's always a possibility.
But it's much easier to jump to conclusions and explain everything with your xenophobic bias.

It's very telling that when I try to bring you simple numbers to present a different view on the same topic, you reply with insults. You swiftly move between insulting nations and insulting persons. As I said above, your only arguments are childish "name calling" and "ad hominem".

So I'll repeat: it's a Shutterstock problem, not a people problem. Shutterstock rules are not strong enough. They need a better fraud detection algorithm. Whatever happens with governments in those countries is secondary and clearly not part of the solution.

Those xenophobic proposals to ban half of the world from contributing or to make things harder for ALL people coming from all those countries, will only make honest and hard working poor people's lives even more difficult.

nobody want ban hal f of the world...you are telling words nobody has told...and this make you a little piece of crap.

India + China + Pakistan + Bangladesh + Russia + Thailand +... = ~3.4 billion people
That's 45% of the world population. Not half.

My mistake! You got me!  ;D

idiot you understand that we are talking about contributor of ss?

You are not talking about SS. You are talking about how morally decayed people from certain parts of the world are. You even have "explanations": it's because of "poverty", "communism", "lack of social fiber", "corruption", etc, etc, etc...

You are the perfect example. I'm not blaming your co-nationals for the way you behave on this forum. You are very rude and you use insults in almost every sentence. It's not the fault of your co-nationals for sharing the same country with such a rude individual.

Are you still with me? If yes, read further:

SS should take action against their bad behaved contributors, no matter what country they come from, without penalizing other honest and hard working co-nationals.
Similarly, MSG forum admins should take action against their bad behaved members, like you, without penalizing all your co-nationals.
When others are forced to witness your insults, it's because there is little or no moderation on this forum, not because your co-nationals are morally decayed.

Do you see what I mean?
. Maybe in romania you drink too much, is the only clear explanation for this conplete nonsense.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 12:51 »
Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

Disproportionate? India has 1.35 billion people. 10 thieves is 0.0000007% of Indians.
USA has 325 million pops. 1 thief from USA is proportional to 4 thieves from India.
So comparing 4 thieves against 10 thieves is more or less in the same ballpark and I would not call that disproportionate.

Our dear xenophobe, should also add, as per some recent reports, Serbia, Brunei and Turkey to his list of cheating nations which already includes, Russia, Ukraine, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China, Algeria and of course, even if not on his list, USA.

If I compare 10 thieves from India with 1 thief from Serbia (out of 7 million pops), then proportionally Serbs are bigger thieves than Indians. But nobody steal as much as people from Brunei. Yes, Brunei people, with 1 thief out of 480,000 pops are the biggest thieves on the planet.

Again, it is a Shutterstock problem, thieves are everywhere.

you are sick man...go and detoxicate from trumps....really...10 are this found by a guy in a bunch of hour understand? there are hundred are, and more coming. i suggest you..live your * sofa in usa , country who welcome you as immigrant...and go live in india and open a * business..then come back year and talk again, and this has nothing to do with racism.....has to do   with the lack of any * rules who me and you consider  normal business law...go in china and open a * business ...o and visit some place where workers live and work 24 hours without any rules.

You think of yourself as sociologist able to understand and explain the root cause of certain behavioral patterns (because of poverty, communism, corruption, bad social fabric, etc, etc, etc...)
Let me break some news for you: you are NOT a sociologist, you are a xenophobe. Sociologists are always attempting to explain why people behave in certain ways, by using advanced statistics to prove their hypothesis.
It's not as simple as you think. Analyzing 10 cases means nothing statistically. 0.0000007% means nothing. These people may well be part of a forum or some group, where a dishonest idea has been shared. In other words, that group is very different than the rest population or contributors from that country you wrongfully accused. It's always a possibility.
But it's much easier to jump to conclusions and explain everything with your xenophobic bias.

It's very telling that when I try to bring you simple numbers to present a different view on the same topic, you reply with insults. You swiftly move between insulting nations and insulting persons. As I said above, your only arguments are childish "name calling" and "ad hominem".

So I'll repeat: it's a Shutterstock problem, not a people problem. Shutterstock rules are not strong enough. They need a better fraud detection algorithm. Whatever happens with governments in those countries is secondary and clearly not part of the solution.

Those xenophobic proposals to ban half of the world from contributing or to make things harder for ALL people coming from all those countries, will only make honest and hard working poor people's lives even more difficult.

nobody want ban hal f of the world...you are telling words nobody has told...and this make you a little piece of crap.

India + China + Pakistan + Bangladesh + Russia + Thailand +... = ~3.4 billion people
That's 45% of the world population. Not half.

My mistake! You got me!  ;D

idiot you understand that we are talking about contributor of ss?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 12:25 »
Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

Disproportionate? India has 1.35 billion people. 10 thieves is 0.0000007% of Indians.
USA has 325 million pops. 1 thief from USA is proportional to 4 thieves from India.
So comparing 4 thieves against 10 thieves is more or less in the same ballpark and I would not call that disproportionate.

Our dear xenophobe, should also add, as per some recent reports, Serbia, Brunei and Turkey to his list of cheating nations which already includes, Russia, Ukraine, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China, Algeria and of course, even if not on his list, USA.

If I compare 10 thieves from India with 1 thief from Serbia (out of 7 million pops), then proportionally Serbs are bigger thieves than Indians. But nobody steal as much as people from Brunei. Yes, Brunei people, with 1 thief out of 480,000 pops are the biggest thieves on the planet.

Again, it is a Shutterstock problem, thieves are everywhere.

you are sick man...go and detoxicate from trumps....really...10 are this found by a guy in a bunch of hour understand? there are hundred are, and more coming. i suggest you..live your * sofa in usa , country who welcome you as immigrant...and go live in india and open a * business..then come back year and talk again, and this has nothing to do with racism.....has to do   with the lack of any * rules who me and you consider  normal business law...go in china and open a * business ...o and visit some place where workers live and work 24 hours without any rules.

You think of yourself as sociologist able to understand and explain the root cause of a certain behavioral patterns (because of poverty, communism, corruption, bad social fabric, etc, etc, etc...)
Let me break some news for you: you are NOT a sociologist, you are a xenophobe. Sociologists are always attempting to explain why people behave in certain ways, by using advanced statistics to prove their hypothesis.
It's not as simple as you think. Analyzing 10 cases means nothing statistically. 0.0000007% means nothing. These people may well be part of a forum or some group, where a dishonest idea has been shared. In other words, that group is very different than the rest population or contributors from that country you wrongfully accused. It's always a possibility.
But it's much easier to jump to conclusions and explain everything with your xenophobic bias.

It's very telling that when I try to bring you simple numbers to present a different view on the same topic, you reply with insults. You swiftly move between insulting nations and insulting persons. As I said above, your only arguments are childish "name calling" and "ad hominem"

So I'll repeat: it's a Shutterstock problem, not a people problem. Shutterstock rules are not strong enough. They need a better fraud detection algorithm. Whatever happens with governments in those countries is secondary and clearly not part of the solution.

Those xenophobic proposals to ban half of the world from contributing or to make things harder for poor people coming from all those countries, will only make honest and hard working poor people's lives even more difficult.

nobody is insulting people...or nations...you are presenting others problems...because you have a distorted view of reality made uo of your conditions and hate towards trump mostly, so you see   everybody as racist....other people told you the same....

probably you never go out from your sofa, just to shoot some nightcap of new york...or go back to your country,  take a flight and live in other country instead of talk about something you clearly don't have any clue.
if there are 10000 indian country and 100 steal is not a little problem is great problem...considering that probably there are not even 1000 and mostly steal is a big problem. is not abut 10...ten are those discovered by a simple research.

telling the problem is not caused by theft but by those who don't control...is like saying that raping  a woman is not a fault of who assault her but the faulty was of her dressing in a sex manner.

"Ad Hominem" at its best.

About the "rape" nonsense: it's the very opposite of what I'm saying.

What you are saying is that ALL men are guilty because one of them (or 10) is a rapist.
Or the classical: Mexicans are rapists, because we caught one.

That's what YOU are saying when you see everything through your xenophobic glasses.

So I'll repeat: it's a Shutterstock problem, not a people problem. Shutterstock rules are not strong enough. They need a better fraud detection algorithm.


this is the same as giving the fault to the victim of a rape cause he has high heels and mini skirt....the fact that even in the last message you tried , with mediocre results, to present your words in another form show exactly you nature...the example of median show exactly your anti trumps taken everywhere even in a photo   forum..most of theft in microstcok come form india russia and other third world country..is a fas proven. the rest are the crap you are telling...mandriotu..go back to ss forum..who probably you even work for ss.

I "probably work for SS"! Lol! You got me!
Another example of how accurate your conclusions are! That's really impressive!

It's my mistake to try to reason with you when it's obvious that You can't root with the hogs and have a clean nose

what you said everybody can read...no point in discussing with you...you justify stealing giving the fault to lack of control of ss...this is mentality from russai    RUMENIA and india...that'si

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 11:57 »
Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

Disproportionate? India has 1.35 billion people. 10 thieves is 0.0000007% of Indians.
USA has 325 million pops. 1 thief from USA is proportional to 4 thieves from India.
So comparing 4 thieves against 10 thieves is more or less in the same ballpark and I would not call that disproportionate.

Our dear xenophobe, should also add, as per some recent reports, Serbia, Brunei and Turkey to his list of cheating nations which already includes, Russia, Ukraine, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China, Algeria and of course, even if not on his list, USA.

If I compare 10 thieves from India with 1 thief from Serbia (out of 7 million pops), then proportionally Serbs are bigger thieves than Indians. But nobody steal as much as people from Brunei. Yes, Brunei people, with 1 thief out of 480,000 pops are the biggest thieves on the planet.

Again, it is a Shutterstock problem, thieves are everywhere.

you are sick man...go and detoxicate from trumps....really...10 are this found by a guy in a bunch of hour understand? there are hundred are, and more coming. i suggest you..live your * sofa in usa , country who welcome you as immigrant...and go live in india and open a * business..then come back year and talk again, and this has nothing to do with racism.....has to do   with the lack of any * rules who me and you consider  normal business law...go in china and open a * business ...o and visit some place where workers live and work 24 hours without any rules.

You think of yourself as sociologist able to understand and explain the root cause of a certain behavioral patterns (because of poverty, communism, corruption, bad social fabric, etc, etc, etc...)
Let me break some news for you: you are NOT a sociologist, you are a xenophobe. Sociologists are always attempting to explain why people behave in certain ways, by using advanced statistics to prove their hypothesis.
It's not as simple as you think. Analyzing 10 cases means nothing statistically. 0.0000007% means nothing. These people may well be part of a forum or some group, where a dishonest idea has been shared. In other words, that group is very different than the rest population or contributors from that country you wrongfully accused. It's always a possibility.
But it's much easier to jump to conclusions and explain everything with your xenophobic bias.

It's very telling that when I try to bring you simple numbers to present a different view on the same topic, you reply with insults. You swiftly move between insulting nations and insulting persons. As I said above, your only arguments are childish "name calling" and "ad hominem"

So I'll repeat: it's a Shutterstock problem, not a people problem. Shutterstock rules are not strong enough. They need a better fraud detection algorithm. Whatever happens with governments in those countries is secondary and clearly not part of the solution.

Those xenophobic proposals to ban half of the world from contributing or to make things harder for poor people coming from all those countries, will only make honest and hard working poor people's lives even more difficult.

nobody is insulting people...or nations...you are presenting others problems...because you have a distorted view of reality made uo of your conditions and hate towards trump mostly, so you see   everybody as racist....other people told you the same....

probably you never go out from your sofa, just to shoot some nightcap of new york...or go back to your country,  take a flight and live in other country instead of talk about something you clearly don't have any clue.
if there are 10000 indian country and 100 steal is not a little problem is great problem...considering that probably there are not even 1000 and mostly steal is a big problem. is not abut 10...ten are those discovered by a simple research.

telling the problem is not caused by theft but by those who don't control...is like saying that raping  a woman is not a fault of who assault her but the faulty was of her dressing in a sex manner.

"Ad Hominem" at its best.

About the "rape" nonsense: it's the very opposite of what I'm saying.

What you are saying is that ALL men are guilty because one of them (or 10) is a rapist.
Or the classical: Mexicans are rapists, because we caught one.

That's what YOU are saying when you see everything through your xenophobic glasses.

So I'll repeat: it's a Shutterstock problem, not a people problem. Shutterstock rules are not strong enough. They need a better fraud detection algorithm.


this is the same as giving the fault to the victim of a rape cause he has high heels and mini skirt....the fact that even in the last message you tried , with mediocre results, to present your words in another form show exactly you nature...the example of median show exactly your anti trumps taken everywhere even in a photo   forum..most of theft in microstcok come form india russia and other third world country..is a fas proven. the rest are the crap you are telling...mandriotu..go back to ss forum..who probably you even work for ss.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 11:44 »
Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

Disproportionate? India has 1.35 billion people. 10 thieves is 0.0000007% of Indians.
USA has 325 million pops. 1 thief from USA is proportional to 4 thieves from India.
So comparing 4 thieves against 10 thieves is more or less in the same ballpark and I would not call that disproportionate.

Our dear xenophobe, should also add, as per some recent reports, Serbia, Brunei and Turkey to his list of cheating nations which already includes, Russia, Ukraine, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China, Algeria and of course, even if not on his list, USA.

If I compare 10 thieves from India with 1 thief from Serbia (out of 7 million pops), then proportionally Serbs are bigger thieves than Indians. But nobody steal as much as people from Brunei. Yes, Brunei people, with 1 thief out of 480,000 pops are the biggest thieves on the planet.

Again, it is a Shutterstock problem, thieves are everywhere.

you are sick man...go and detoxicate from trumps....really...10 are this found by a guy in a bunch of hour understand? there are hundred are, and more coming. i suggest you..live your * sofa in usa , country who welcome you as immigrant...and go live in india and open a * business..then come back year and talk again, and this has nothing to do with racism.....has to do   with the lack of any * rules who me and you consider  normal business law...go in china and open a * business ...o and visit some place where workers live and work 24 hours without any rules.

You think of yourself as sociologist able to understand and explain the root cause of certain behavioral patterns (because of poverty, communism, corruption, bad social fabric, etc, etc, etc...)
Let me break some news for you: you are NOT a sociologist, you are a xenophobe. Sociologists are always attempting to explain why people behave in certain ways, by using advanced statistics to prove their hypothesis.
It's not as simple as you think. Analyzing 10 cases means nothing statistically. 0.0000007% means nothing. These people may well be part of a forum or some group, where a dishonest idea has been shared. In other words, that group is very different than the rest population or contributors from that country you wrongfully accused. It's always a possibility.
But it's much easier to jump to conclusions and explain everything with your xenophobic bias.

It's very telling that when I try to bring you simple numbers to present a different view on the same topic, you reply with insults. You swiftly move between insulting nations and insulting persons. As I said above, your only arguments are childish "name calling" and "ad hominem".

So I'll repeat: it's a Shutterstock problem, not a people problem. Shutterstock rules are not strong enough. They need a better fraud detection algorithm. Whatever happens with governments in those countries is secondary and clearly not part of the solution.

Those xenophobic proposals to ban half of the world from contributing or to make things harder for ALL people coming from all those countries, will only make honest and hard working poor people's lives even more difficult.

nobody want ban hal f of the world...you are telling words nobody has told...and this make you a little piece of crap.

357
Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 11:42 »
Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

Disproportionate? India has 1.35 billion people. 10 thieves is 0.0000007% of Indians.
USA has 325 million pops. 1 thief from USA is proportional to 4 thieves from India.
So comparing 4 thieves against 10 thieves is more or less in the same ballpark and I would not call that disproportionate.

Our dear xenophobe, should also add, as per some recent reports, Serbia, Brunei and Turkey to his list of cheating nations which already includes, Russia, Ukraine, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China, Algeria and of course, even if not on his list, USA.

If I compare 10 thieves from India with 1 thief from Serbia (out of 7 million pops), then proportionally Serbs are bigger thieves than Indians. But nobody steal as much as people from Brunei. Yes, Brunei people, with 1 thief out of 480,000 pops are the biggest thieves on the planet.

Again, it is a Shutterstock problem, thieves are everywhere.

you are sick man...go and detoxicate from trumps....really...10 are this found by a guy in a bunch of hour understand? there are hundred are, and more coming. i suggest you..live your * sofa in usa , country who welcome you as immigrant...and go live in india and open a * business..then come back year and talk again, and this has nothing to do with racism.....has to do   with the lack of any * rules who me and you consider  normal business law...go in china and open a * business ...o and visit some place where workers live and work 24 hours without any rules.

You think of yourself as sociologist able to understand and explain the root cause of a certain behavioral patterns (because of poverty, communism, corruption, bad social fabric, etc, etc, etc...)
Let me break some news for you: you are NOT a sociologist, you are a xenophobe. Sociologists are always attempting to explain why people behave in certain ways, by using advanced statistics to prove their hypothesis.
It's not as simple as you think. Analyzing 10 cases means nothing statistically. 0.0000007% means nothing. These people may well be part of a forum or some group, where a dishonest idea has been shared. In other words, that group is very different than the rest population or contributors from that country you wrongfully accused. It's always a possibility.
But it's much easier to jump to conclusions and explain everything with your xenophobic bias.

It's very telling that when I try to bring you simple numbers to present a different view on the same topic, you reply with insults. You swiftly move between insulting nations and insulting persons. As I said above, your only arguments are childish "name calling" and "ad hominem"

So I'll repeat: it's a Shutterstock problem, not a people problem. Shutterstock rules are not strong enough. They need a better fraud detection algorithm. Whatever happens with governments in those countries is secondary and clearly not part of the solution.

Those xenophobic proposals to ban half of the world from contributing or to make things harder for poor people coming from all those countries, will only make honest and hard working poor people's lives even more difficult.

nobody is insulting people...or nations...you are presenting others problems...because you have a distorted view of reality made uo of your conditions and hate towards trump mostly, so you see   everybody as racist....other people told you the same....

probably you never go out from your sofa, just to shoot some nightcap of new york...or go back to your country,  take a flight and live in other country instead of talk about something you clearly don't have any clue.
if there are 10000 indian country and 100 steal is not a little problem is great problem...considering that probably there are not even 1000 and mostly steal is a big problem. is not abut 10...ten are those discovered by a simple research.

telling the problem is not caused by theft but by those who don't control...is like saying that raping  a woman is not a fault of who assault her but the faulty was of her dressing in a sex manner.

358
Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 10:02 »
Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

Disproportionate? India has 1.35 billion people. 10 thieves is 0.0000007% of Indians.
USA has 325 million pops. 1 thief from USA is proportional to 4 thieves from India.
So comparing 4 thieves against 10 thieves is more or less in the same ballpark and I would not call that disproportionate.

Our dear xenophobe, should also add, as per some recent reports, Serbia, Brunei and Turkey to his list of cheating nations which already includes, Russia, Ukraine, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China, Algeria and of course, even if not on his list, USA.

If I compare 10 thieves from India with 1 thief from Serbia (out of 7 million pops), then proportionally Serbs are bigger thieves than Indians. But nobody steal as much as people from Brunei. Yes, Brunei people, with 1 thief out of 480,000 pops are the biggest thieves on the planet.

Again, it is a Shutterstock problem, thieves are everywhere.

why you talk about india population ....we are talking about shutter stock contributor...nobody  ever talked about india as country....if there are 1000 contributor from india and 100 are theft or summer...there is a problem....you are mounting an anti racist campaign, but i already showed you that i travel to poor country and live in ukraine and russia...that's why i have the experience to see that in most of those country there are simply zero rules about business...zero. only counts money and profits the rest, those law that are a normal thing in many country simply doesn't exist. we are talking about country like india where still some people are considered inferior and not worth a job or vote right.


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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 09:49 »
Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

Disproportionate? India has 1.35 billion people. 10 thieves is 0.0000007% of Indians.
USA has 325 million pops. 1 thief from USA is proportional to 4 thieves from India.
So comparing 4 thieves against 10 thieves is more or less in the same ballpark and I would not call that disproportionate.

Our dear xenophobe, should also add, as per some recent reports, Serbia, Brunei and Turkey to his list of cheating nations which already includes, Russia, Ukraine, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China, Algeria and of course, even if not on his list, USA.

If I compare 10 thieves from India with 1 thief from Serbia (out of 7 million pops), then proportionally Serbs are bigger thieves than Indians. But nobody steal as much as people from Brunei. Yes, Brunei people, with 1 thief out of 480,000 pops are the biggest thieves on the planet.

Again, it is a Shutterstock problem, thieves are everywhere.

you are sick man...go and detoxicate from trumps....really...10 are this found by a guy in a bunch of hour understand? there are hundred are, and more coming. i suggest you..live your * sofa in usa , country who welcome you as immigrant...and go live in india and open a * business..then come back year and talk again, and this has nothing to do with racism.....has to do   with the lack of any * rules who me and you consider  normal business law...go in china and open a * business ...o and visit some place where workers live and work 24 hours without any rules.

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2 smugmuh photo shelter photodec kind of website
3-shopify


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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 08:01 »
I don't like jonbull but completely agree on this one. 5 out of six is still "most from east".

Sure, I also agree with "5 out of 6 are from east".
The problem is his extrapolation from a few examples to entire nations, including droves of decent hard working contributors.

Idiot i already wrote you we are talking about thenpopulation pf shutterstock contriboutor... not all
Country. Other have tried to tell the same
Thing but you are in a period of life after trump
Electikn where you see racist everywhere.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 07:58 »
Here is another if half a dozen isn't enough, with a different sky and very strange horizon.
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/dubai-skyline-sunset-1243533760

Whaaat? You don't say! Jack Foote from The United States?

I thought thieves are only from Russia, Ukraine, Algeria, India, Pakistan, Thailand and China... or from poor countries... or something about communism...

What about that, what about that...

Apart the fact that it must be seen thatnis from
Usa... lot of russian contriboutor
Put western countries for example... but really you deny the reality... mandriltu go out hyoir immigrants mentality and you wont see rackst at every corner.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 18, 2019, 07:56 »
What! Another idiot

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 12:42 »
Ok, so the so called "explanation" has evolved from Russians, Ukranians, Indians, Algerians, Bangladeshi, Chinese, Pakistanis or Thai people are cheaters to "poor people are cheaters".

What about saying that "brown people" are cheaters, or "Hindu people" are cheaters, or "Orthodox Christians"?

All these "explanations" are as "valid" as any! All of them are baseless and offensive!

a complete idiot. really. the fact you don't realize you are an idiot make you even more idiot....go back to ss forum to   spread this politically correct crap.m

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 12:18 »
.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you, some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad that you don't even realize it!


only in the last two days, with minimal efforts brasilnut found at least 10 15 thieves from india. why not from usa or other country?

I look for them and they happen to be predominately from India, Pakistan, Thailand, Bangladesh and Russia. Not sure what % are fraudulent but wouldn't say it's 99%. Pity for other otherwise legitimate contributors from those countries that give them a bad name, especially India which is such a rich and colourful country. Some of those contributors just need to step out the door and see the beauty.

SS have a 90-day "high-fraud risk" list of countries before they can withdraw, so it's not by accident that those places are more likely to have thieves than others. Nothing to do with DNA or nationality/ethnicity or the fact that their staple food is rice other than potatoes, it comes down to education or in many cases, lack of. Also corruption is ripe in many of those countries and there's a kind of free-for-all and lack of social fabric that is found in more egalitarian societies. 25 cents in many of those countries is worth a lot more than 25 cents in our western developed world, so we're likely to see the proliferation of thieves in the coming years while QC standards become increasingly non-existent.

No excuse, still thieves and need to be shut down and educated. 

p.s how they let the same image be distributed by 6 people is beyond me and close to negligence for a publicly listed agency with audited accounts and a compliance dept

completely agree...having live and traveled in most of the countries, and having many friends there what you wrote is exactly this.....russia is a rich country but compared to  western country look like middle age as far as working and business ethics...ukraine not even talk, thailand the same...china? go and watch the conditions of workers...there are no ethics in those country, and has nothing to do with trump...most of them come from communist era, and after the fall of communism the so called freedom become more a jungle where surviving makes people cheat practically everyday.
as you said  100 dollar are something in india compared to usa, that's why in the last time you see indian contributors popping out like mushrooms with fas account and stolen images, same for ukraine and russia....i know people living in siberia who earn    300 dollar months working 6 days 8 hours and more...that's why a lot cheat spam use any means to makes money in ss.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 12:12 »
.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you, some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad that you don't even realize it!


only in the last two days, with minimal efforts brasilnut found at least 10 15 thieves from india. why not from usa or other country?

I look for them and they happen to be predominately from India, Pakistan, Thailand, Bangladesh and Russia. Pity for other contributors from those countries that give others a bad name, especially India which is such a rich and colourful country. Some of those contributors just need to step out the door and see the beauty.

SS have a 90-day "high-fraud risk" list of countries before they can withdraw, so it's not by accident that those places are more likely to have thieves than others. Nothing to do with DNA or nationality/ethnicity or the fact that their staple food is rice other than potatoes, it comes down to education or in many cases, lack of. Also corruption is ripe in many of those countries and there's a kind of free-for-all and lack of social fabric that is found in more egalitarian societies. 25 cents in many of those countries is worth a lot more than 25 cents in our western developed world, so we're likely to see the proliferation of thieves in the coming years while QC standards become increasingly non-existent.

No excuse, still thieves and need to be shut down and educated. 

p.s how they let the same image be distributed by 6 people is beyond me and close to negligence for a publicly listed agency with audited accounts and a compliance dept

another * racist:)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 11:57 »
you are a total idiot really...we are talking about shutter stock...not india or china complete population....


here a photo that show my kukuxlan friend in soweto, famous white supremacist ghetto in africa, a place where you would be even scared to stroll inside a car,

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 11:45 »
.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you, some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad that you don't even realize it!


only in the last two days, with minimal efforts brasilnut found at least 10 15 thieves from india. why not from usa or other country?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 11:44 »
.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad you don't even realize it!

what a bunch of stupidity.. being an immigrant from rumen in usa make you so nervous about that theme? i travel all the world love ukraine and russsia, indian african but this don't deny th fact that most of spammers and thieves in shtterstock come from these country. and has nothing to do with politics or xenophobia...i already said find 10 20 thieves from france, or usa...i expect.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 11:29 »
india, bangladesh, algeria.....as i said we have seen not even the point of an iceberg....ss is imploijg, and too we will see 3 4 million files per week mostly stolen...there is billions of poor with intent and a pc, in most country even 100 dollar makes a difference. unfortunately is clear that micro stock is in the last phase.
the only thing that can change something would be a *  terrible q4 for ss who take their stock in the garbage. but i have  zero hope at this point.

....

and ss has been added a lot of languages..so even those unskilled who doesn't know a word of english can now upload stolen images or spamming with snapshots taken by their iPhone 3.    unbelievable.


Funny you say that because your posts are not really the best examples of using correct English ;)

People from Algeria, Bangladesh or India have exactly the same rights as us, Americans or Europeans to upload and sell our work through Shutterstock.

Cheating has nothing to do with nationality. The solution is not to close the door to new talent coming from across the world, but for SS to improve their fraud detection algorithms. So focus on the real issue, stop belittling other nations,
stop acting like a Trump with his "crap-hole countries" rants and get ready to face the competition.
...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 11:28 »
india, bangladesh, algeria.....as i said we have seen not even the point of an iceberg....ss is imploijg, and too we will see 3 4 million files per week mostly stolen...there is billions of poor with intent and a pc, in most country even 100 dollar makes a difference. unfortunately is clear that micro stock is in the last phase.
the only thing that can change something would be a *  terrible q4 for ss who take their stock in the garbage. but i have  zero hope at this point.

....

and ss has been added a lot of languages..so even those unskilled who doesn't know a word of english can now upload stolen images or spamming with snapshots taken by their iPhone 3.    unbelievable.


Funny you say that because your posts are not really the best examples of using correct English ;)

People from Algeria, Bangladesh or India have exactly the same rights as us, Americans or Europeans to upload and sell our work through Shutterstock.

Cheating has nothing to do with nationality. The solution is not to close the door to new talent coming from across the world, but for SS to improve their fraud detection algorithms. So focus on the real issue, stop belittling other nations,
stop acting like a Trump with his "crap-hole countries" rants and get ready to face the competition.


mandrio...ops zero talent...listen if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality. everybody can upload from any country. the point is most spammers and thieves come from those country. it's a fact proven. now i know you would say hat thieves are from anywhere but clearly won't be able to bring any samples...i'm not native english, and myenglish is enough believe me......i speak 4 language...how many you apart from rumenian and american?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 09:16 »
Zero quality control and similars are a big problem but lately the huge increase in fraudulent portfolios stealing others images and reselling them without any action is getting to be a big problem.

Some great examples here:-
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96209-thieves-thread-update-week-ending-jan-13/
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96153-what-can-i-do-to-make-shutterstock-take-copyright-infringement-seriously/

They don't appear to care that their library is filling up with low quality, similar, badly keyworded images OR that a fairly large scale theft and reupload empire is growing there too.

india, bangladesh, algeria.....as i said we have seen not even the point of an iceberg....ss is imploijg, and too we will see 3 4 million files per week mostly stolen...there is billions of poor with intent and a pc, in most country even 100 dollar makes a difference. unfortunately is clear that micro stock is in the last phase.
the only thing that can change something would be a *  terrible q4 for ss who take their stock in the garbage. but i have  zero hope at this point.

and ss has been added a lot of languages..so even those unskilled who doesn't know a word of english can now upload stolen images or spamming with snapshots taken by their iPhone 3.    unbelievable.   

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 09:15 »
Zero quality control and similars are a big problem but lately the huge increase in fraudulent portfolios stealing others images and reselling them without any action is getting to be a big problem.

Some great examples here:-
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96209-thieves-thread-update-week-ending-jan-13/
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96153-what-can-i-do-to-make-shutterstock-take-copyright-infringement-seriously/

They don't appear to care that their library is filling up with low quality, similar, badly keyworded images OR that a fairly large scale theft and reupload empire is growing there too.

india, bangladesh, algeria.....as i said we have seen not even the point of an iceberg....ss is imploijg, and too we will see 3 4 million files per week mostly stolen...there is billions of poor with intent and a pc, in most country even 100 dollar makes a difference. unfortunately is clear that micro stock is in the last phase.
the only thing that can change something would be a *  terrible q4 for ss who take their stock in the garbage. but i have  zero hope at this point.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "It's not stock, it's Shutterstock"
« on: January 17, 2019, 09:08 »
Zero quality control and similars are a big problem but lately the huge increase in fraudulent portfolios stealing others images and reselling them without any action is getting to be a big problem.

Some great examples here:-
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96209-thieves-thread-update-week-ending-jan-13/
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96153-what-can-i-do-to-make-shutterstock-take-copyright-infringement-seriously/

They don't appear to care that their library is filling up with low quality, similar, badly keyworded images OR that a fairly large scale theft and reupload empire is growing there too.

unsplash site and other free sites are the most used photos by those thieves....is clear that from the born of those free sites everything is falling down.
personally i don't blame them....mst are indian, with a 300 400 dollar they can survive , most have internet connection, and unfortunately this is only the begin. it will be worse...still african and poor chinese don't have discovered micro stock.

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