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Dreamstime.com / Re: Can't get out of DT quick enough
« on: June 04, 2009, 16:55 »
Sure it's a hassle for buyers if images go way.   Sure DT invested some time reviewing the images.   So maybe DT should focus more on keeping contributors happy, instead of p!ssing them off with stuff like this 6 month thing.


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Dreamstime.com / Re: Can't get out of DT quick enough
« on: June 04, 2009, 11:34 »
I forgot if you can edit the keywords after acceptance in DT. In case you can, just delete all keywords,descriptions and titles or change them to something nonsensical and just become exclusive with IS. If the pictures can not be found on DT they are effectively not for sale anymore.

I think that would take a heckuva long time to accomplish, and wouldn't satisfy the requirement anyway.

I'm now thinking seriously of dropping out of DT.  Microstock is changing rapidly and the picture could be very different even 6 months from now. I don't want to be locked in to a site that isn't generating any sales for me anyway.


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Dreamstime.com / Re: Can't get out of DT quick enough
« on: June 04, 2009, 10:36 »
6 months! What a drag. 

Since their recent search changes, my sales at DT are now so low I'm seriously thinking about dropping out now in case I want to go exclusive somewhere else in the future.  I sell 10 times more on SS, and FT has pulled way ahead of DT.     

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Site Related / slower....?
« on: June 03, 2009, 13:11 »
Is it just me, or are other people finding this forum takes longer and longer.... and longer... to load as days are going by?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: what? third reject from istock
« on: June 02, 2009, 09:03 »
The market is flooded, that's it in a nutshell. The microstocks now have millions of photos, and reviewing new photos in detail costs money.  Cheaper to reject them right off the bat for subject matter.  Photos they might have wanted 2 years ago, they don't want today. 


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iStockPhoto.com / Re: what? third reject from istock
« on: June 01, 2009, 21:15 »
If you're like me, IStock will frustrate the heck out of you.  Some people will tell you that IStock's people are the embodiment of all photographic knowledge; and if you don't get it - well, just go back to whatever small town you came from, and forget the big city.   The reality is, you may get a photo rejected, then resubmit it later and have it accepted. You may see your best selling photos rejected for imaginary "artifacts", or for poor "feathering" when none was performed.    You may find it impossible to submit some photos because their "controlled vocabulary" contains no keywords for it.   Bottom line, there's  certain kinds of images, and styles, they just don't want because they think they're not cool enough for iStock's customers.  Who knows.

Your photos are fine. Nice exposure, color, lighting, focus. The one of the porch with beams and benches may not have much stock value; it's hard to assign a topic to it. The one of the dog is a nice example of a certain breed. The jet is a nice closeup - you do have to remove that trademark.

Don't let IStock drive you nuts.  To get in you need some snappy shots that just ring their bell; it's hard to guess what might do it.  If you get in, submit photos now and then, expect a lot of rejections, don't waste a lot of time trying to figure them out.




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Shutterstock.com / Re: Crisis at shutterstock
« on: June 01, 2009, 13:25 »
I agree with farhad.  I'm not affected by the tax thing, but that "make my day" post, where he threatened to delete the portfolio of anyone who annoyed him,  made me feel that by selling through SS I'm just helping some jerk get richer.  People like this guy typically have no real interest in the long term - they want to make a bundle and move on.   Knowing that a person like this is running one of the big agencies has reduced my interest in microstock overall.  Yes I know there are jerks running a lot of corporations, but they don't usually throw it right in your face.




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CanStockPhoto.com / Re: My first FotoSearch Regular - $19.80
« on: June 01, 2009, 13:19 »
It's true, patience is not normally my strong suit.  I have to wonder though if some of these companies will even be around by the time I'd start to see any returns.

After 4 months I'm in the pit of discouragement.  All my images sell, at least as 30 cent subs on SS, and sometimes on FT for a dollar or so.  But the more photos I upload, the fewer sales I get.     It just feels like the whole microstock thing is winding down, the companies now have huge archives and would like to stop spending money reviewing new ones. They're ncreasingly emphasizing past popularity in their search ranking, which means new images have little chance. 

Just my doom and gloom for the day. 

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CanStockPhoto.com / Re: My first FotoSearch Regular - $19.80
« on: June 01, 2009, 09:51 »
My portfolio is tiny at this point - just 80 images. Even so, it generates enough sales on SS  and FT that it's at least interesting and I might get a payout ever few months. On CanStockPhoto, it would never generate a payout in 100 years so all it would do is make money for them, not me. I'd never see a dime.  So I have no motivation to give them anything - I'll probably delete what I already uploaded.

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My conclusion, after a few months of microstock, is that all the sites are now de-emphasizing new photos in favor of popularity-based ranking.  In other words, try to get the search functions directing buyers to what other people have bought in the past. 

This may be a sensible strategy for the microstocks, now that they have millions of images in the bank. But it gives new submitters a sense of futility.   

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Is this one of those sites that takes 6 months or a year to start seeing results? :-\
Or is it one of those sites that just won't be here anymore, in 6 months or a year?

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Ok Warren, here's my report on CanStockPhoto.  I uploaded 20 images to test the waters.   After 1 week, I have exactly 0 views total.  Zero. Not a single view on any of the 20 images.

I think if the CIA has photos they want to keep secret, they should just put them on CanStockPhoto. It's a black hole for photography.





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Off Topic / Re: Google Wave
« on: May 30, 2009, 16:58 »
I started using Google Documents and after a while got frustrated with its limitations. Little things like no keyboard shortcuts for indent/unindent  - a big deal if you're trying to maintain an outline.  A year later, nothing had changed, except that other, smaller companies had way better online document apps. 

My impression is that Google never really finishes anything ( ok Google Maps is great). They throw out something new, bask in the glow for a while, then lose interest.  Maybe that's why they're going open source, hoping that "the mob" turns Wave into something big.

I can't wait for Google's free stock image service. Am I kidding? Not really.

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Off Topic / Re: Google Wave
« on: May 30, 2009, 13:29 »
The first guy was so boring I tuned out after about a minute.  I should probably watch the whole thing, but is it just the latest/biggest glom of email/IM/twitter/texting, one more way to keep people staring at screens of stuff like "I'm at the mall now"?   


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StockXpert.com / Re: StockXpert deactivations
« on: May 29, 2009, 09:59 »
My guess is they're being jerked around by Getty people who are cooking up new marketing schemes every week and ordering changes to StockXpert's search algorithms and priorities.   Currently there seems to be no exposure of new images.  Eventually they may turn up in keyword searches on Photos.com etc. 

Getty's brilliant "synergistic" schemes are going to turn the microstock business into a tangled mess, with prices lower than ever.   At some point after this acquisition binge they'll wake up with a royal hangover and have to decide which of these companies they're able to keep alive.






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StockXpert.com / Re: StockXpert deactivations
« on: May 28, 2009, 19:41 »
Cheer up KB.  I'm in the StockXpert "zero views" club.   

It appears they aren't even going to talk about this any more- what's causing it, why only some submitters are affected.  I quit uploading weeks ago. There's a prominent thread on their forum where the question is perpetually ignored.

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It sounds like sitting on 7 million images they do not care about individual supplier anymore :-)
Yeah, that much came through loud and clear.

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I always have a problem with a company that puts up a "forum" and thinks it's going to be a place where people gather to sing the company song.   If you can't handle negative feedback, take down the forum.




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The CEO rant post has been removed.

Hope they have him sitting down and breathing into a paper bag.

Forget taxes. The take-away here is - if you do something that annoys this guy he'll just delete all your work.  






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Obviously SS is a privately held company.  Because if it were public, and had a board of directors, a CEO who threw a public tantrum - which accomplished nothing except to alienate contributors and damage the company's image - might very well be out on his ear.  

The tax thing will be worked out in time - but this guy apparently will be around for a while. 




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This thing doesn't affect me, but I was stunned by the rude and obnoxious rant posted by SS's CEO.  It really took my image of Shutterstock down to the floor.

It reminded me that there is no commitment by these companies whatsover.  You might invest a lot of time over a period of months or years in uploading, keywording and categorizing images on a microstock - then one day a guy decides he doesn't like your forum avatar and deletes your entire account.  

Holy cr@p.

There has to be a better way to sell stock photos than through web sites run by bad-tempered kids.  


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I now have about 80 images, not much, but they bring in a few dollars a day on FT and SS.  DT, once in a while, but it's really dropping off.

I put them on 123RF a month ago and so far have made a grand total of $1.08.   


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On day 7, they reviewed and accepted 20/20.   I will wait to see what happens before uploading more - I'm not wasting any more time on dead sites (like 123RF).   


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Old Hippy, come back and deliver a rant anytime.  This place needs some serious cage-rattling.  Personally I'm not reconciled to the idea that microstock is a Good Thing, I still see it somewhat as the equivalent of an offshore sweatshop, in a place where labor is too cheap and collective bargaining is impossible.

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Old Hippy, I haven't been doing microstock long enough to have an expert opinion, but I think the sharpness expectations have been steadily creeping up and sometimes reviewers go over the top.  Remember that the people at these microstocks are a generation younger than we are (I'm an old hippy too) and have grown up in a world of CGI and vector illustrations which are basically infinitely sharp.  They are starting to see "photographic" looking images as dated and second rate. There is little to no acceptance of shots with selective DOF - they seem to expect everything in the photo to be sharp, even if that looks dumb and distracting to someone with more of a film sensibility.

There is also an expectation that these big digital images be totally sharp at 100%, even though 99.9% of the time they won't be printed at anything like that size, and should be resharpened at the published resolution anyway for best appearance.

In short I'm seeing a sort of  simplistic concept of "sharpness" in microstock.

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