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Computer Hardware / Re: Looking for a new backup system (raid1?)
« on: November 01, 2013, 11:04 »
... Besides, I've never yet had a controller card fail;  the disk is the most vulnerable item.


I am a a soon-to-be-ex Drobo owner. My experience with this has not been happy. I went with this (expensive) option to guard against drive failures. I have had zero drive failures but multiple Drobo failures. They are sensitive little flowers and if you get lucky and nothing on it fails, yea. You can read [ur=http://scottkelby.com/2012/im-done-with-drobo/]many unhappy experiences here[/url] if you think it's just me.

I've never lost any data (because of a combination of luck and many copies of important data), but I will be continuing to use a RAID system along with on the shelf external disks for an archive and Backblaze for offsite safety net. Three copies of everything is the goal.

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Symbiostock - Technical Support / Re: Dragonfly Child Theme
« on: October 31, 2013, 14:27 »
You'll find a number of useful posts about customizing your site's look on the Symbiostock forums, including the CSS changes i made to my site which is based on Slate but doesn't look anything like it :)

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Image Sleuth / Re: DMCA.com
« on: October 31, 2013, 00:23 »
..."May I ask why we can't find any reviews..."
I've seen dozens of positive reviews posted on many different sites. (Try google)

First, as noted above we already did try google and didn't find anything.

Second, if you want to encourage any of us to become customers, does that sort of flippant, unhelpful response give us a clue as to how you would treat us after we signed up? If you didn't intend it to be rude, fair enough, but it comes across that way to me. Surely you collect reviews or links to them and can share them with us.

Third, as a representative of a company, get Tyler Olsen (the site admin) to get you a verified badge for your account so we know who we're dealing with

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Image Sleuth / Re: DMCA.com
« on: October 30, 2013, 00:23 »
I had not heard of them before reading your post. I have to say that "As seen in Cosmopolitan" didn't do much to convince me they're a professional service :)

I've done takedown notices for sites that offer an automated process (Flickr, Google/Picassa, etc.) and I can't see using a service for anything that straightforward. If someone lifted my whole portfolio to put on a torrent site, that might be worth paying someone (if I thought they could really remove it permanently and not just have it shift around from site to site, each incurring another fee).

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Looking at some others images in stock agencies, they seem to be quite heavily edited/saturated & I am unclear as to whether they like that or not ? On one hand they say no (eps with the application photos in istock), but then they still seemed to get submitted. Can you give me your guidance on that ?

It's always (a) a tricky balance and (b) an answer that varies by agency. If you wanted to submit to Stocksy or Photocase, you shouldn't do heavy post processing as both are going for a more natural look. For Shutterstock, bright, colorful and no dramatic shadows will help - some people might find the vivid colors over the top, but SS generally accepts them. iStock used to be very, very down on heavy processing, and focused most on technical perfection, accepting even very boring but technically flawless shots. Lately they really seemed to have changed the acceptance criteria and accept a wide range of things they'd have rejected a year ago. Other agencies fall somewhere in the middle.

You do have to be careful not to introduce noise or color banding as you post process images, and if the shot isn't in focus or is heavily over/under exposed, don't waste any time on it. You want to improve good shots rather than rescuing bad ones.

As far as travel shots, they can sell very well, but they need to be of recognizable places (tourism or business travel) or have some general "message" - the man conquering the high mountain or happy families enjoying a day out. If it's a recognizable place, make sure you include the location information in your keywords.

Hope this helps

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Dreamstime.com / Re: Massive Refunds
« on: October 28, 2013, 20:31 »
I had 4 sales on Sunday and so far no refunds - I assume I'd have seen them by now if I'd be caught up in whatever scam you were hit by.  Sorry it happened to you.

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I still beg to differ. The whole symbiostock experience for me has been a breeze. Each to their own. There is also a lot of beta testing going on, which may give the impression its a mess to set up your own site.

I am not saying you are not right Sue, its your experience, which is what it is. If you go to the official forum, there will be a lot of people more than happy to help you. Also Leo is offering service to set up your site for you. What takes days for you, takes him 10 minutes.


I have not found it a breeze - not by a long shot. Now perhaps some of that is just bad luck, and some that I was not willing to have my site look the way it would out of the box.

My site is running and I did not have to have anyone do it for me - in other words it can be done without help - but I think it's only fair to let others considering implementing a site hear from a range of us who've done it about how we found the experience.

This isn't blaming Leo or complaining, it's just stating my experience with this (and I didn't dive in back in the early days because I just didn't think I could take on the inevitable issues of things being in beta).

Other users have been incredibly helpful - there's a great group of people to lend a hand when it's needed - but as I've seen it (since the end of August when I got started) just about everyone who puts together a site needs some help getting things up and running.

I would encourage anyone who has questions to use the Symbiostock forums where you'll get more focused help (and there are lots of already-answered questions you can use).

I'm continuing to upload, tailor my site and help others out where I can - so I am on board with the project completely - but I think new folks need to jump in with eyes wide open and a realistic assessment of what it will take.

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123RF / Re: Does 123rf have a free section?
« on: October 28, 2013, 20:15 »
It does, but you have to choose to participate (I don't). Some of the other sites offer all sizes free, but 123rf restricts the size to something that's good for blogs or tiny sizes in print, but not much else. DT has freebies as well, but again, you don't have to participate if you don't want to (I don't). I believe FT still does too.

123rf also time limits the free small size.

If I find someone using things without a license I'd rather direct them to free (but legit) stuff than have them pirate.

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The place that will do best for you financially is Shutterstock (at the moment; in the past I'd have said iStock) but I think they'd reject many of your first 10 on the basis of low commercial value (for example the steps in the snow), lighting (most of them) or composition (the lion behind a mile marker) or focus (the misty shot from indonesia). You need to have 7 of 10 accepted to become a contributor. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but there's a lot of competition and the agencies can afford to be picky.

Number 11 would have to be editorial with the council name and coat of arms; number 12 just isn't useful stock (dull light, dirty beach, blown highlights) unless that's some very famous place that people who know that area would know in an instant -the barrel distortion isn't really the primary issue.

Agencies like CanStock are more accepting, but they don't have great sales, so you might not want to spend the time.

You will be able to make links once you've made a few more posts - not sure how many.

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Thanks for the link Martha. I can read it as a NY Times subscriber (one of two newspapers for which I buy the Sunday paper as my vehicle for purchasing online access; rather bizarre but they set the pricing not me) :)

I particularly liked this idea about writing/photography/"content" being reduced "...to the status of filler, stuff to stick between banner ads." Because this is a big issue - that many sites want to use contributions to make themselves advertising revenue which they don't want to share with the creator.

My favorite example of being asked for a freebie came from a site that had found my work at 123rf and said how much they liked it, but could they have it for free. So they knew it was for sale - didn't even offer any special reason why I should give it to them!

As a user of sites (like Facebook or Twitter or Google) I can't stand the ads and do my best to ignore them. I'm puzzled that this stuff keeps growing - obviously someone must be clicking on the ads or the companies wouldn't keep paying for them. I pay for the NY Times because their writers can write and I want them to keep doing that so I can read it - the semi-literate rants on other sites with "free" content don't even come close.

On the photography side of things, I have yet to see a site with free images (not including those that peddle stuff stolen from Shutterstock) where the quality was even close to what you'll see from those of us who expect to be paid for licenses to use our work. We need to keep saying "no thanks" to people who ask for freebies and chase up the thieves when we find them.

 I think we're not that different from other areas of work where people ask for freebies. Think of those stories you've heard from lawyers or doctors about people asking for free advice on social occasions - it's anyone with an intangible product or service that gets asked I think, not just those who sell licenses over the internet. You ask for free medical opinions from a doctor you meet but not from a cabinetmaker, for example (although I don't know any cabinetmakers, so perhaps they get hit up for freebies too!)

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If SS allowed anyone at the 38 cent level to be in the Bridge and guaranteed the same earnings at BigStock as at SS, I'd be happy to have them move my SS port over there (I quit BigStock in March as I'm not part of bridge and they wouldn't permit me to opt out of the lowball royalties on subs - I asked and they said no).

Otherwise, any and all moves to undercut SS prices at BigStock is a long term lose for contributors - even those in the Bridge who temporarily have been given golden handcuffs so there is something to sell at BigStock.

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Flickr / Re: Should I join Getty Images on Flickr?
« on: October 18, 2013, 18:29 »
There are many people who have run into Getty's tight control of the Flickr group and either been banned or left as a result:

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/gettyflickr-contributors-google-deal/msg295373

You can read one ex-Getty/Flickr photographer's thinking about this as an option here

http://thomashawk.com/2010/06/so-is-the-new-flickrgetty-request-to-license-feature-a-good-deal-or-bad-deal-for-flickr-photographers.html

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy changed payment threshold
« on: October 15, 2013, 09:42 »
I'm not personally unhappy as I'm in the US and get paid by them via direct deposit (although I'm currently at a cleared balance of $97.xx and sales have just vanished, so I may never get paid!), but they apparently just don't get that they are not special enough to be able to pull this sort of stunt.

Here are the mass pay fees for the payer - in the case of a UK company paying in Euros to someone in Ireland (to pick Ron as an example), Alamy would pay only 2.0% up to 6 euros as their mass pay fee. It's not going to break the bank, IMO

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_batch-payment-overview-outside

It used to be that their royalty rate was high - they keep cutting it and on distributor sales (which I have opted out of) contributors end up with 30%

It used to be that their sales prices were higher but now most things are massively discounted from the apparently irrelevant "list price"

They take months to clear payments, offer liberal refunds, have a massively painful keywording system (I periodically get a reminder about 30 images I uploaded that I couldn't be bothered to keyword once sales just slowed to an occasional trickle) that isn't like any other site.

There used to be sales...

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123RF / Re: Anybody Sell EVO at 123RF
« on: October 14, 2013, 23:59 »
What's even more strange - and makes me think that their code is just buggy - is that if I use your link and then change last three months to "Any time", your images start showing up on page 4 (by relevance) in an all collections search.

If I change to laughing santa (instead of blue santa) and set "Past month" and "All collections" three of yours show up. I change that to "Evo" and it says there are no results!

Repeat the above two searches but with "Past 3 months" and I see three of yours for "All collections" and four of yours if I say "Evo"

The only constant is errors!

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123RF / Re: Anybody Sell EVO at 123RF
« on: October 14, 2013, 16:04 »
He's already been selling in Photoshelter for some months, if I'm not wrong.


http://seanlockephotography.photoshelter.com/

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Interesting - I had fun dong a few searches.

Couple of thoughts.

It wasn't immediately clear where to type - the huge blinking vertical insert point did eventually get my attention, but I think having the background of the search box a slightly lighter gray would have given me a clue visually that I'd have "got" faster.

I like it that you keep the current "seed" image up at the top left, but I would like to be able to see a rack of past seeds for the current search term - in case I didn't like my current branch and wanted to go back a bit. Currently the image is just visual and I'd like it to be a link to  prior search.

Even having read Sean's comment about the slider in Find similar, I didn't understand what was going on. I think that dropping the percentages and having an arrow with Keywords and Visual on either side (along with the color change which is a good visual clue).

Several times I clicked on the image I liked and it did nothing - how about making that default to a find similar with a 50/50 keyword/visual split?

I'd like to say "none of these" - perhaps a box with an X in it on the thumbnail? - for images that aren't at all what I want. I did some searches where the first few screens weren't at all what I wanted (I did one for beach and the first screen is full of people on beaches and I was thinking of a scene with no people) and I wanted to get more to choose from without the clutter of stuff that was of no interest.

I'd rather see button over the image for show details or buy now or whatever than clutter up the search refinement popup with the huge Show Details bar.

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123RF / Re: Anybody Sell EVO at 123RF
« on: October 14, 2013, 15:11 »
FWIW, I did this search and saw two of yours on the first page when looking for all collections.

Their search is pretty lame - for example, I can't say I don't want to see illustrations, and having said I wanted 1 person, the very first image is of three kids - but by narrowing the search a bit to a manageable number (just over 1K results) your images were up front by "relevance" whatever that is.

When they introduced EVO - (in 2008 I think) - and Fotolia introduced their black collection (Infinity?) they were both really boring collections of older cast-offs from the trad agencies. I have no clue how the sales have been, but if you look at the EVO results for "Santa" with a buyer's eye, I don't think you'd be willing to pay any extra for the very ordinary collection of stuff they're offering (and I think your Santa images are fine, but there are lots of nice Santa images in the main 123rf collection and some real losers in this high price collection)

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Envato / Re: Automated Payouts at Envato
« on: October 14, 2013, 10:07 »
I got their newsletter and signed up right away - I really like the set it and forget it option, so I'm glad they added this.

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Selling Stock Direct / Re: Paypal or Credit Card?
« on: October 11, 2013, 22:38 »
With sites I know and have used a lot - like amazon.com - I do use a credit card, but otherwise it's always PayPal. The big win for me is that the site has no access to my financial information, so I don't have to worry about whether their systems are secure or not.

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I gave them my 90 day notice this spring and my content was duly removed by the summer. I'm sorry things didn't work out with them, but they just couldn't seem to make up their mind what sort of site/agency they wanted to be.

I don't think blaming all the other sites and photographers for the crappy state of the market isn't much of a strategy IMO, and pretty much every communication from them (I didn't get this most recent as I was already gone) had that theme.

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Stocksy / Re: Stocksy News
« on: October 10, 2013, 20:22 »
Long may the alternatives flourish and stay profitable while paying contributors decent royalties. Nice to have some good news

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Based on being part of WarmPicture (based on Ktools) I couldn't recommend going that route. You customize the store (because it doesn't do what you want out of the box) and then when there's an upgrade you're stuck as there's no path to integrate your changes. It wasn't IMO a great option.

StockBoxPhoto (a) looks awful and (b) doesn't appear to have any real sites using its very expensive software - the "demos" don't appear to be targeting stock, but event and wedding photography. If I were going to spend that sort of money why wouldn't I go with PhotoShelter?

I am in the process of setting up a Symbiostock site, so I've obviously made my choice :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS partners with Facebook
« on: October 06, 2013, 16:19 »
I was  bit taken aback the other day to see a facebook ad for a local real estate company featuring my house!

The image is one I sell as stock and has never been on Facebook in my account (i.e. it's not one of those ads that pulls from your own images). I haven't seen anything on SS that I can identify as a sale to FB.

Here's the screenshot

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12956972/FB-ad-house.png

And this is the image it is using

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=77565013

It'd be nice to know how these show up (and it is of course possible this was an image purchased elsewhere in the "normal" way)

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Don't knock that apple, It's for early Ipads that dont have a screen rotate.  :o

Ha! But if they can't afford a new iPad, how will they afford the 135 credits or $242 it costs to buy this gem of an image (with wrong keywords) (that don't even include apple)?

And you don't even impose a cover charge for the comedy show :)

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So the "contributor" is Clerkenwell Images aka OJO Images - a getty dump

Interestingly, they have moved some of this outfit's images to the cheaper collections - 62 in Main, 5260 in the $$ section, 4293 in the $$$ section and 29,407 in the $$$$ ( I can't recall what these sections are now named)

I was thinking they'd made an effort to "curate" these items, but the crappy fruit slices and sideways apple are still in the $$$$ section, so no one looked all that closely

http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-25406435-close-up-of-orange-slice.php
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-25406521-juicy-green-apple.php

And then there's the slower-than-slow loupe - when it does come up, it's centered over the mouse, so you can't slide to the next image to the right to see that in detail without moving your mouse away to dismiss the loupe and then move it to the next one you want to see. It's really pathetic UI - and they could look at any of the other stock sites, even Thinkstock, to see better (and faster) implementation

So this sounds a bit off topic from the original question, but when you consider how little attention has been given to weeding out the junk in the OJO portfolio (which does have some really good work as well), the mass of near-identical images doesn't seem much of a surprise

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