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Messages - Jo Ann Snover
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« on: May 13, 2013, 13:45 »
While it still mattered to me, Photo+ was a big part of keeping earnings up. That's gonzo in the new scheme - contributors have no control over the price point.
I wish I could say that IS will make wise decisions about which files go at which prices, but honestly I think they won't be able to manage that.
And is the dollar bin going away? Files there deleted or moved to the new main collection?
4252
« on: April 29, 2013, 09:50 »
Waiting approval 162764
4253
« on: April 26, 2013, 09:39 »
The climb continues:
Waiting approval 134453
4254
« on: April 25, 2013, 19:29 »
Just now checked the stats:
Waiting approval 126199
4255
« on: April 25, 2013, 10:46 »
Waiting approval 119799 ...
And in just a few hours it's up more: 120628
4256
« on: April 24, 2013, 18:39 »
Queue now at 108963.
While we are busy posting in forum the rest are busy uploading. 
The faster they get approved the faster Getty can pass them on to Google and the lucky contributors can pocket their $6 or $12 loot
4257
« on: April 24, 2013, 14:17 »
Outdoor shots in full sun is poor lighting
That's way over-generalizing. Search for Aruba on Shutterstock and my shot is first in the list - full sun, but it makes sense for the shot. I've no idea about the OP's shots, but for heaven's sake let's not start a dogma spat over what makes good lighting. SS has a stick up it's whatsit about certain kinds of light - their privilege as it's their site. The fact that they reject a lot of crap images doesn't make every image they reject crap...
4258
« on: April 24, 2013, 11:14 »
Queue now at 108963; so they are getting plenty of new uploads, and they can't keep up with inspections despite the announcement claiming: "We don't foresee any significant increase in queue wait times in fact, we've been ramping up and training new members of the team in preparation for these changes."
And now 110,287, so up a couple of thousand in just a few hours. It was 70K just a few days ago. I'd say they're adding some large pile of new content, not just contributors getting busy.
4259
« on: April 24, 2013, 10:22 »
As I left DT when I became IS exclusive and returned in June 2011, none of my images are more than 4 years "old" (they might have been taken from 2004 on, but were made new again  I would never allow them to become free images, so I'd disable them. DT can spin it however they like, but if they have failed to sell an image that is for sale on other agencies, that's their problem, not mine and I wouldn't undercut sales elsewhere by letting them give it away.
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« on: April 24, 2013, 10:18 »
I just sent Pocketstock e-mail requesting my account be closed. Given the 90 days for termination, it will be a year since I uploaded there (June 2012) by the time I leave. I think that's a fair trial, and they're not able to produce. I have a grand total of 55 cent royalties on two sales.
4261
« on: April 23, 2013, 16:22 »
upload limits mean little to me personally, I rarely come anywhere near even the base level as it was previously, let alone my exclusive level limit, as I'm just a part timer.
But it's strange. Lots of people here used to complain about the upload limits on iStock; just do a search if you don't believe me.
Now they've effectively removed the limits (for that is what they have done, no-one is suggesting you should try and meet 999/week as a target), people complain about that and say it's ridiculous.
Seems you can't please some of the people any of the time.
I think you're misreading the reaction. It's the hypocrisy that has people P.O'd (if they're indie) and the loss of a privilege (protection from the factories) if you are an exclusive. That and the impression that they're not telling the whole story. There's also the concern that this is heralding a new wave of imported content (perhaps non Getty) as it's people with a huge portfolio to upload who will see the biggest benefit. People mostly seem to be reporting poor sales, and a huge influx of new content without new buyers isn't going to help existing contributors even if it temporarily boosts Getty's revenues. iStock used to talk about the importance of the upload limits - only uploading your best work. Now, with no explanation that makes any logical sense, they reverse a policy of many years' standing. The secret partner deals (e.g. Google) with no opt out hasn't changed, so for many, they could make the upload limits anything they wanted and it'd make no difference. But I suspect they're trolling for cash wherever they can (like the clipart.com imports) and this is just another sad attempt.
4262
« on: April 17, 2013, 19:28 »
You'll get different answers from different contributors, but I think you should stay away from the "sell the rights" options and enable the others. Some people who sell prints themselves (via Cafe Press, Zazzle, FAA, et) prefer not to sell the P-EL, but I do offer that option as I haven't seen any clear evidence I'm competing with myself (I think it's perhaps bricks & mortar stores using these licenses, but I can't know for sure)
4263
« on: April 15, 2013, 11:21 »
...It's also worth baring in mind that if you are not comfortable with the third party additional revenue opportunities you can opt out during the month of April.
I just opted out of Novel Use and the UK Newspaper scheme. I think I opted out of distributor sales (I unchecked all territories and clicked Save; there's no opt in or opt out button I could find) If anyone else wants to opt out, April is the month to do so
4264
« on: April 05, 2013, 11:06 »
Fotolia started this type of end-run around an extended license purchase in 2008 - see the discussion here: http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/prints-for-sale-through-fotolia/If there were (a) notification of contributors up front of all partner deals and (b) individual opt out for any deals a contributor did not want to participate in - because they're on Zazzle, Cafe Press, FIA or whatever - then this would be closer to reasonable. Unfortunately, Getty doesn't see fit to do either of the above and even those agencies which do offer opt outs are typically all or nothing (Bigstock for example). IMO it's ripping off contributors unless you let them choose whether or not to participate.
4265
« on: April 02, 2013, 23:22 »
I regret iStock's trail of business decisions since September 2010 but not mine to leave exclusivity (June 2011) and virtually the site (Feb 2013). At the end of 2012 (Nov & Dec) I was able to match my peak exclusive earnings from Nov/Dec 2010 so I feel that was a measure of validation of switching back to independence.
I had been indie from 2004 to 2008, so I had an easier path returning to being indie that someone who had always been exclusive with iStock - as noted above, everyone's experience is a little different. But the worse things get at iStock, the easier it becomes to slip the golden handcuffs off...
4266
« on: April 02, 2013, 14:59 »
I did a google search for it, found the front page and it still says Photographer Beta Now open. If you do an image search it still puts up the dialog saying this is limited and once it has launched all sites will be searched.
In other words I see no change at all from many months ago, and I hope no photographer has been paying them monthly fees as nothing's functional yet. All the articles Google search returned on the first page were from a year ago, so if there is anything going on, Google didn't find it.
4267
« on: April 02, 2013, 11:16 »
I see this discrepancy all the time, but it seems to straighten out after a few days - I assume it has something to do with how partner sales dribble in and different parts of their system updating at different times. That suggests some nasty spaghetti code with different parts of the system all updating at different times or in different ways.
Given how long this has been happening and how they haven't spent any time providing decent reporting on stats for contributors (total downloads and $$ per image, daily sales totals, "credits" totals for the new accounting system, and on and on) it's clear that they don't consider this a priority.
We're an expense and to be minimized, not an asset to be valued and supported.
4268
« on: March 27, 2013, 19:09 »
I lose track of how long things have been with each batch at Pond5 - it's at least two weeks and often longer.
4269
« on: March 27, 2013, 19:07 »
Working fine for me (Seattle area)
4270
« on: March 26, 2013, 20:26 »
I cannot fathom why there is a small clique of Getty apologists who refuse to believe that what Sean has said is what happened. Even further, I can't understand why they'd waste their time on MSG to set us poor country bumpkins straight - those of us who take Sean at his word.
And as for Getty's side of things, their track record speaks for itself - it'd be easier to defend Attila the Hun and Vlad the Impaler as social workers at heart than to pitch Getty as the hardly done by agency scr*wed over by the evil SuperLocke.
Go and complain about us and Sean someplace else.
Wow, way to be inclusive. Who needs any other perspective...let all us little Lemmings get back to our smug...errr...snug little bubbles 
There's a whole lot of things I can be inclusive about - but not the flat earth society, those who support having imprisoned Galileo for saying the earth revolves around the sun - I could make a list, but I'm sure you get the point. There's a saying someone else came up with that we are entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts. Sean has given us the tale of what happened and when. Having people come in here and say that - in essence - Sean is lying, is a complete waste of their time and ours. Let them send rude site mail to Sean calling him out if they really feel the need to set the world straight.
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« on: March 26, 2013, 20:14 »
I cannot fathom why there is a small clique of Getty apologists who refuse to believe that what Sean has said is what happened. Even further, I can't understand why they'd waste their time on MSG to set us poor country bumpkins straight - those of us who take Sean at his word.
And as for Getty's side of things, their track record speaks for itself - it'd be easier to defend Attila the Hun and Vlad the Impaler as social workers at heart than to pitch Getty as the hardly done by agency scr*wed over by the evil SuperLocke.
Go and complain about us and Sean someplace else.
4272
« on: March 25, 2013, 12:59 »
We've heard the "different markets" spin from pretty much every agency at this point. Especially when it comes to introducing subscriptions. Regardless of whether the admins at Bigstock believe it, I think they're wrong - just as iStock was wrong, Dreamstime, Veer...
The only thing that will assist contributors is growing the market by bringing in new buyers - Shutterstock stealing customers from Getty Images is great for those of us who aren't with Getty, but even better is a new iteration of what happened when iStock started. Companies that didn't buy stock before, or only bought in small quantities, buying images or significantly upping the volume of their purchases.
Having subscriptions at Bigstock isn't introducing anything new - it's just cheaper by a bit than Shutterstock. All it can do is cannibalize sales from somewhere else - if not SS then one of the other microstock agencies. Given the lowball royalties, there is no way this can be good for contributors (it's neutral for those in Bridge to Bigstock whose acquiescence for 6 months has been purchased by giving them the 38 cents per download they currently earn).
The only winner in this move is SS as they get to pocket more of each sale from everyone except the Bridge folks.
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« on: March 22, 2013, 18:35 »
If H&F bought Getty, how does Getty still own part of their own company with the latest "sale"? Possibly H&F never bought all of Getty? Maybe someone can explain how Getty can ratain shares in the latest sale, if they were sold in the past. 
H&F sold the company - part to Carlyle Group and part to Jonathan Klein and members of the Getty family. They effectively bought part of it back versus "still" owned it.
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« on: March 21, 2013, 20:40 »
...I interpreted Ann's remark to say that what we put up with is a statement of what we are willing to accept. If it were truly unacceptable, we'd stop accepting it. We vote with our submissions, and with our deletions. Sad but true, at least in my view.
I have the luxury of another income in the household that allowed me to refuse to put up with the lack of an opt out for dreadful deals such as the Google-Getty deal, done behind IS contributor backs and without their explicit consent. All but 140 or so of my images are gone from IS. If I were full time and if my kids wouldn't eat if I didn't collect my weekly money from IS, I'd probably have put up with their rubbish, no matter how wrong their behavior was. I'd plot an escape route - something lots of folks have been doing - and get the heck away from these foul deals as soon as I could. I can't feel high and mighty about my choice because I'm acutely aware how easy it is for me to be able to afford my principles.
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« on: March 21, 2013, 18:13 »
No surprise that the "contributor news" is full of bad news for indies. Lovely that they are offering convenience to their Getty360 top customers, but I see no reason whatsoever that they can't pay indies their contract rate (15% to 20%) on any sales made through that program - or a straight 20% like everyone else. As far as the supposed improvements in the Google deal, the missing images from a few days ago (see here) are back (including Sean's tailgate images), so any thought that they'd removed content to placate iStock contributors is out the window. Also, I do not see any license information displayed in search results as the Google text says I will - see here for the Google "Learn More" page. So there's no way to know what license goes with what. The note that you have to say "posed by model" for sensitive uses doesn't in any way address the concerns of iStock contributors - if you license through iStock, sensitive uses are prohibited (although they never seem to want to enforce those), aren't they? On the iStockalypses, the feedback I have seen via Facebook groups is that the new format is totally lame and not what you pay them money for, so I'm not sure where they got the idea they're giving contributors what they wanted. I think it's a training exercise so they can bring on new contributors to replace some of the disaffected exclusives they're losing as a result of their greedy and dishonest policies over the last few years. Edited to add that the kicker for IS exclusives is that they now get 20% for their iStock content instead of their 25% to 45% when purchased by one of the Getty360 customers. I'm sure they'll go on and on about how it's OK 'cause it's a higher price (but if you look at the complaints about the large number of low value sales from Getty mixed in with some at much higher prices, it's not clear how much more than will be) but the bottom line is that they have figured out a way to get everyone to 20% and do away with the higher royalty rates for exclusives. Now it's just the biggest customers (and I don't suppose they'll share the percentage of total sales those big customers represent; I'm guessing it's high as lots of the smaller ones have left by now) but it's just one more small change to make that apply across the board and you've effectively done away with exclusive royalty rates while keeping exclusive contributors from selling elsewhere. Geniuses!!
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