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« on: March 02, 2008, 16:32 »
For Monday thru Thursday last week there was a glitch in the search system, with many files unavailable - hence the drop in downloads. There was a big red announcement on the support page presumably because they were getting so many support emails along the lines of 'I can't find my files'.
The problems were resolved on Friday.
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« on: March 01, 2008, 14:05 »
Nicely written blog Pixels Away.
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« on: March 01, 2008, 13:17 »
Quantity doesn't necessarily mean sales. Only quality gets sales.
The girl in question has 14,000 images, but as far as I can tell from a glance through her portfolio she only has about 2,000 downloads.
In contrast Yuri has 6,000 images and over 50,000 downloads.
Over on IS, Sean Locke has 4,000 images and 275,000 downloads. Lise has 5,000 images and 700,000 downloads.
But the crown must go to Sodafish who has only 350 images and 140,000 downloads.
I wish the young lady success, but quantity doesn't mean money. Only downloads make money.
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« on: February 28, 2008, 05:59 »
... how long it will be before Fotolia changes the animated display of christmas images on the intro page.......
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« on: February 27, 2008, 04:30 »
By the look of things you're not doing too badly yourself thesentinel. Congratulations on an excellent portfolio and sales record.
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« on: February 27, 2008, 02:32 »
Lets get a few things straight about the best match, because its not unfair and its not rocket science. Here's my understanding FWIW:
The last best match change happened many months ago and it was quite a radical change which limited a non-exclusive to having a max of four files in the first 100 of a search, and an exclusive to 8 files. The limitations were imposed due to the discovery of a 'rigging gang' of three photographers who were systematically buying a copy or two of every one of their new uploads within minutes of approval; this created a huge dl/month number for all of their files and guaranteed first page placement in any best match search. They were discovered due to the large number of files appearing on first pages and the similarity of the pictures (two of them were using the same camera, studio and props and may in fact have been the same person). These two accounts were both exclusive.
The limitations of 4 and 8 were imposed in order that such rigging could never happen again. I think its only fair that exclusives should have a higher number than non-exclusives. Apart from this, there is no preference to exclusives.
EXCEPT......
There is another factor that influences the placing in the search; it isn't best match but the faster approval times. Let me explain: the main component of best match is dl/month. This is calculated not from the approval date but from the upload date.
Now imagine this situation: a non-exclusive and an exclusive both upload a highly commercial file. The exclusive image is accepted within a day; the non-exclusive takes a week. Both files get a first download one day after approval.
The non-exclusive file gets an immediate dl/month number of 4 (because the upload was a week earlier). The exclusive file gets a dl/month number of 31 (because it was uploaded just a day before).
This explains why it appears that exclusives get preferential treatment in the best match. But the only advantage is gained by files that are highly commercial and attract immediate sales; over time, the 'time advantage' gets diuted away.
I hope all this makes sense. It is of course just my own understanding of how it all works.
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« on: February 27, 2008, 02:18 »
thesentinel - how do you get those numbers? Is there a league table somewhere?
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« on: February 25, 2008, 16:04 »
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« on: February 24, 2008, 15:32 »
Dan, the highlights at the back appear to be blown. Also, watch out for composition in terms of stock sales - what might look good as an 'art' composition doesn't necessarily sell as stock.
For your picture above, note that stock buyers almost always want everything in focus, and the out of focus strawberry will probably destroy sales of this picture. See how the viewer's eye is drawn to the strawberry and away from the main subject.
Although not as pleasing composition wise, you will get better sales if you remove the strawberry thus giving the flexibility of white space to the buyer.
Nice tart. Now where's my breakfast.....?
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« on: February 22, 2008, 19:08 »
I'm not sure I agree with your drift on this one Lisa. There was a big price increase in January and this 'sale' only reverses a small part of that increase. So on a net basis isn't it the case that prices and income are still higher than before january 7th? So doesn't that mean that on a net basis you are still better off? How can that be a penalty?
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« on: February 22, 2008, 17:47 »
Miz I agree that life is best with the 'half full' approach. But you've missed my point: you haven't solved the problem - you've got two years worth of images that are not keyworded properly and somehow you've got to address that problem or they will continue to be lost in FT's system and earn a derisory income. You can piss on the past if you wish - just make sure you don't piss all over your own pictures.
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« on: February 22, 2008, 17:28 »
The free images system doesn't work. People THINK it works, but those people usually have small portfolios where a few extra sales make a big difference in monthly income.
I tried it out last year - for the whole month of September I had lots of free images staggered with various time frames. In October I had zero free images (deliberately).
My income in October was 40% higher than September.
I have tried it again this year - I had zero freebies in January and I've rotated a few in February. My income in February is less than January.
The only thing the free image facility does is devalue the microstock industry. It also attracts to 123RF customers who ONLY want free images and nothing else. I've noticed a huge number of views of my 'profile' and I've often wondered why - the plain fact is that it is by viewing a contributor's profile that a customer is then able to gain access to the photographer's free image list.
The free images get hundreds or thousands of downloads; far higher than is reasonable in relation to normal sales; I've got images with a handfull of sales but two or three hundred free downloads.
What 123RF is doing is creating a rod for its own back - because the free downloads are so huge relative to normal sales this suggests that only a small percentage of customers actually also pay for higher resolution, and that small percentage represents massive business risk because those customers will disappear if the free stuff ever comes to an end. It's a house built on sand.
Imagine this scenario: I'm a potential customer and I say to you "hey, I really like your pictures; I'll buy a few medium and high resolution copies, IF at the same time you give away for free two or three hundred web resolution images to my designer friends dotted around the world". Think how you would react to that proposal.
If you have a good quality, commercial portfolio, my own experience says you will make MORE money at 123RF by NOT giving away free images.
And think also of your customers at other agencies - how would they react when they have been paying good money to buy small images of yours, and then find you are giving away those same images for free elsewhere?
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« on: February 22, 2008, 17:05 »
Miz, you haven't had a 500% increase in earnings - what you had was 500% less income before simply because you didn't follow FT's instructions. It has always been the case that only the first seven words count, and there has always been an instruction on the upload page to reorder words into priority order before pressing 'submit'.
Yes, you can celebrate your windfall, but you should also reflect on how much money you lost in previous years.
You now need to think about how you can change all your earlier uploads - most people think that reordering existing keywords doesn't work, so the only other option is deleting all existing images and 'starting again'.
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« on: February 22, 2008, 11:49 »
Well in my opinion this is just a way of reversing some of the large price increase implemented in January. They appear to have realised that for the L, XL and XXL sizes the increase was a bridge too far, so now they've invented a way to reverse some of that rise.
As sharpshot says - you don't have a January sale in December.
I suspect that at the end of March there will be another announcement along the lines of 'our Spring sale was so successful we've decided to make it permanent'.
It's just a reversal of some of the increase disguised with some spin.
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« on: February 22, 2008, 05:28 »
Looks like iStock has reduced prices for L, XL and XXL images. New prices are already on the site but no announcement yet.
Presumably the recession in the States has get something to do with this.
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« on: February 21, 2008, 20:18 »
Any buyer looking at that selection of seagull pictures at mostphotos is likely to give up and look for an agency with better quality pictures.
If that page is representative of the stuff for sale at mostphotos they have got a real problem and will never be anything other than a third tier picture agency.
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« on: February 21, 2008, 20:09 »
FT doesn't have 80,000 contributors. As usual they've exaggerated their numbers (and how anyone can actually believe a word they say is beyond me, but there you are).
I reckon they have 25,000. Mwp1969 is the last person on this forum to join FT and he recently said he's position 22,000 with his first two downloads. So either FT's 80,000 is completely wrong (once again) or there are 68,000 contributors with zero sales.
I had hoped that FT would become more 'honest' over time, but they just shove out any old numbers and statistics. The 80,000 was probably chosen so they could claim to be the same as Shutterstock.
The last official number from IS was 38,000.
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« on: February 21, 2008, 15:50 »
Well I blow hot and cold on the exclusive thing sharpshot - one day I'm all keen on the idea, and the next day I get concerned about the 'eggs in basket' risk.
My decision to leave SV has nothing to do with that - I just don't want to be involved there and I don't want them to have my pictures. In my view they are sloppy, uncommitted, amateurish and possibly incompetent, and I don't want to be associated with what is probably the laughing stock of the microstock industry.
Just my own view, of course.
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« on: February 21, 2008, 15:08 »
Almost three weeks after my first post I've now managed to get my pictures deleted from SV.
I wrote to them asking them to cancel my account and delete my images and I got a pretty swift reply expressing concern and trying to be helpful. But I didn't get my images deleted as requested. Later they said I'd have to manually delete them all myself. For a while the delete facility wouldn't work so I had to write to them again pointing out that I wouldn't be able to delete my own pictures because that function on the site didn't work, however it them started to work again but was SO slow.
Luckily I found a 'delete complete set' button and as nearly all my stuff was in sets I was eventually able to delete it all.
I'm glad (relieved) to be away from SV.
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« on: February 12, 2008, 17:05 »
Okay, I'm with you - I see the pricing table.
But if an XS costs 57p, why on earth does it say 1 on the home page?
Think I'll delete this thread and put it all down to too much thinking too early in the morning.
But I'd still like to double my Fotolia income. Somehow......
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« on: February 12, 2008, 17:00 »
Madelaide it clearly states on the FT UK site that an XS image costs 1, not 57p.
And it clearly states on their French site that an XS costs 1 Euro.
On the US site an XS costs $1. In dollars a credit = $1 and a photographer gets 33% of that.
Are you suggesting that a buyer in the UK pays 1.754 credits to buy an XS image? This seems very unlikely. Have you ever been credited with fractions of a credit for selling an image?
Is it possible that credits cost 1 for a buyer, but are only worth 57p for a photographer?
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« on: February 12, 2008, 16:45 »
Okay, let me make sure I understand this correctly.
Sharpshot, you say your 'credits' are downvalued to 57p, so you then get paid 33% (at base level) of 57p? That's 18.81p.
The customer pays 1 for a XS photo, and you get paid 18.81p?
So that's 19% or so.
Have I understood that correctly?
If so, my first post is wrong, but also right (in a way). The fact of the matter is that for sales in Europe, nobody is actually getting paid 33% of the sale price, but much less.
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« on: February 12, 2008, 16:36 »
Ah, okay I assumed that in the UK and Europe a photographers 'credit' would be the same as the buyers 'credit'. That's clearly wrong.
But why in the UK do you only get 57p for a credit when the customer pays 1. According to the Fotolia pay scale you get 33%, but in this case they've reduced the credit from 1 to 57p before calculating your 33%.
So UK photographers aren't getting 33% of the sale price at all - they are getting much less.
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« on: February 12, 2008, 16:12 »
My original post modified on the basis of too much thinking too early in the morning......
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« on: February 12, 2008, 01:45 »
Yuri is presumably doing a search by 'most downloaded' instead of 'best match'.
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