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« on: October 03, 2020, 09:26 »
It's just their name for the unlimited subscription programme. Bit like Envato Elements and Motion Array. They used to have an unlimited subscription and a regular marketplace for individual downloads (with content that wasn't in the subscription), but they ditched the regular marketplace.
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« on: October 02, 2020, 17:14 »
Average for the last half of 2019, about $235 a month... average for 2020, about $425 a month. They've sent out emails saying they've increased the revenue pool four times since they moved over to just the membership library, but nobody knows how big that pool is or how many it's shared between, so not all that transparent.
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« on: October 01, 2020, 22:53 »
Imagery from NASA is public domain, although they do request that you add a disclaimer along the lines of 'contains imagery furnished by NASA' when using their content. Also, anything that contains logos or recognizable people can't be used commercially.
I remember listening to a podcast back in the day, and the head of media (or some similar title) at NASA was being interviewed... and he was specifically asked if people could sell NASA content as stock footage and stock images, and he said that it's absolutely fine.
It's still up to the agencies whether they accept it or not but most do as far as I'm aware.
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« on: September 29, 2020, 11:05 »
i think that you must own the copyright of all elements you use in your renders (3d models and textures). Maybe there are websites that allow you to use the textures for microstock, but i'm not sure about this. Personally i use only textures created by me (procedurally or from my shots). If you use C4D i think that's fine to use the texture library that come with the software.
Can you provide the law where that is written? i am kind of curious. The way you put it, it seems that people cannot even take a shoot of an ikea chair (which have design) or any other object in the world. I don't see people in movies own the copyright of all objects like sofas tv and so on that they buy for the film clip shoot. And i see a LOT of this objects being used in microstock clips. Furthermore I can advance that there is no such thing in EU law that i am aware of it.
It's usually less about 'the law' and more about the terms of the sites in question... plus copyright law. i.e there's not really any law that says you can't do 'x' when it comes to your use of a texture/model, but there are license terms, and doing something with the item that isn't allowed means you've breached the terms of the license, so you don't have the right to use it. If you don't have the right to use something, it's then an issue of copyright law. For example, the terms of TurboSquid: You may NOT publish or distribute Creations of Imagery through another stock media clearinghouse, for example as part of an online marketplace for photography, clip art, or design templates. So unless you've created your models and textures from scratch, you need to check the terms of service to see what is and what isn't allowed. That's for models and textures... when it comes to household objects, products, logos etc, they're usually all covered by some form of copyright protection, and what's allowed will vary considerably on the item in question, how prominently it features in the shot, end usage etc etc... plus how stringently the stock site wants to apply those rules when accepting content.
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« on: September 27, 2020, 19:30 »
Mine are set at $19 for HD and $39 for 4K. Those are single use licenses though... for the multi-use license I go with $79 and $159.
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« on: September 19, 2020, 15:57 »
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53998711
Interesting 'viewpoint' from Netflix!
"You can't copyright mother nature!" Oh purleeze are netlix really so dumb! 
Quite the opposite. If they'd said "you can't copyright a photo of a natural phenomenon produced by mother nature" (for example) then that would have been a lie... and pretty dumb. And if they'd said "We used your copyrighted photo without permission and were fully ware what we were doing" then that would probably be true... but also pretty dumb to admit to. "You can't copyright mother nature" is true... so they've provided a factual statement that while accurate, is unrelated to the issue at hand. As a result, there's a super-minimal chance the photographer might have though "oh right, I wasn't aware of that. Ah well, forget it then". Either way, Netflix are in the wrong. They should be held accountable, and pay the applicable compensation... but they have a legal team for a reason, and I guess you can't blame them for giving it a try.
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« on: September 18, 2020, 08:57 »
1) You set it up Playstock because "...we could never be 100% satisfied with whats out there. We wanted to discover new, more varied sets of themes, subjects, types. We were constantly in need of a previously undiscovered, perspective-changing stock footage hidden somewhere deep in someones hard drive."
...which is great and all, but how does Playstock solve that issue? Just opening a new stock agency doesn't automatically mean you're going to get new and more varied themes, subjects and types of footage. Unless you have something up your sleeve that you've not yet disclosed, then there's no reason to assume your content selection won't be exactly the same as all the other agencies.
2) I'd rather you start with a higher percentage and put it down in the future.
3) 0 to 5% is worrying. I think most people are quite happy to get 50% or more as they have a vague understand of the cost involved in marketing and running a successful stock agency. If you insist on starting the commission low and putting it higher later, I think 20% to start and 40% when you're fully up and running would be better.
4) You need to stop with the TB nonsense! Go for number of downloads only. Seems like the TB allowance for downloads (and the portfolio size in TB on your survey) is purely as a way to figure out costs when it comes to hosting and transfers. That's fine from a planning standpoint, as it's an important cost to factor in to your business plan, but I can't see any benefit to using it as a download limit. Confusing for buyers... especially if they're hunting around or clips when they have 100MB left, for example. If you were taking more than 0 to 5% then you'd probably be able to worry a lot less about bandwidth charges.
5) The subscription fee is low. Even Envato Elements is around twice that for a year. So while your 'bumf' seems to indicate you're looking to market yourself on unique and diverse content, your prices indicate you're looking to purely compete on price.
6) I'd be happy to upload a chunk of my portfolio to give it a try. What's the worst that can happen... I don't make any sales, lose a bit of time, and I can stop uploading or remove my content. But I can't... as due to your incentive the terms state that whatever I upload is on your site forever. There's no way I'm doing that if you haven't yet fully decided on royalty rates and subscription fees. I probably wouldn't do it even if you had.
7) As a result... you should give the option to take the incentive and keep your content on forever (which people are unlikely to go for... unless they have a bunch of stolen content!), or not take the incentive and remove your content whenever you want.
I wish you well, but it's just not very appealing right now.
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« on: September 02, 2020, 23:58 »
Sale reversals maybe?
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« on: July 05, 2020, 07:34 »
No need for them to lie... investors don't care too much about upload numbers if the profits are up. The only reason they had to 'big up' the upload numbers previously was because the percentage increase on profits were gradually decreasing, so they needed something positive-sounding to deflect from that.
Now they can just say something along the lines of... "upload numbers are down, as we expected due to the changes, but they haven't really impacted buyer numbers and net profits are up as a result. But just you guys wait until January... it's gonna be a doozy!"
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« on: July 02, 2020, 02:02 »
More likely the poll figures are just as a result of the boycott... I mean, if 50% of the people here have disabled their portfolios, then all things being equal (including the number of sales SS are getting), sales will appear to have dropped by 50% on the poll.
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« on: July 01, 2020, 12:43 »
One post was removed for harsh / insulting / rude language. Please keep the conversation civil.
I was directly quoting comments across several posts from the same author, none of which have been removed for harsh / insulting / rude language. Just an FYI.
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« on: June 28, 2020, 13:10 »
I am not interested in creating any agency.
What's the difference between an agency and the 'platform' you're proposing?
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« on: June 26, 2020, 21:22 »
Is blackbox still on shutterstock? If they are and you are contributor. Do you have anyway to get your video out of shutterstock? How much is your royalty on .34?
Still on there and no plans to leave SS as far as I can tell. Unlikley they'd let everyone remove their footage from just SS but you never know. They'll be at 40%.
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« on: June 26, 2020, 02:12 »
Curious - is shutterstock now just 'punishing' contributors with $0.30 VIDEO downloads?
No idea how they could get it down that low, unless they are keeping the majority of the commission...
Obviously seems everyone is making a difference for them to decide to make it a super low comission...
Did you realize about last 1 june payment rate changes??
Not really related to the June the 1st changes. Even without the changes, the headline would still be "lots of $0.60 VIDEO downloads?? from shutterstock?" or something along those lines.
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« on: June 25, 2020, 19:46 »
Yay, 9 video sales in one day!  A total of $2.06!
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« on: June 24, 2020, 15:12 »
A condition of having to work very hard...
You don't have to though, that's the difference. As a result, it's highly insulting to compare SS to slavery for anyone who is, was, or has an ancestor who was enslaved. But sure, if you ever meet somebody who used to be an actual slave, and they're recounting their situation to you... feel free to say "Yeah, I hear that.. I used to submit to Shutterstock back in the day. I know how you feel." I'm sure that'll go down really well.
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« on: June 19, 2020, 12:55 »
Surely you could only sue them on or after the day of your death... as only then would you know whether you've made minimum wage for the content you created. Otherwise, how would it work? Could somebody who has been selling their images on Shutterstock for a week sue, as they've not yet made minimum wage? What would be the cut off point... a year, five years, ten years?
How would you account for economies of scale? Should the rule be the same if you upload 100 images a month and I upload 1? What about equipment... if you use a Canon 700D and I use a Hasselblad, should that be reflected in the calculation? What if the calculation reveals that two people who have the same number of items and person A makes $5 less than minimum wage and person B makes $5 more than minimum wage... does person B receive nothing for being more successful and person A receive extra money for being less successful? Surely the ends don't justify the means? But 'the means' allow for somebody to earn more than minimum wage, so are the means at fault?
And even if you could sue for this, the perfect defences by the agencies would be to present a bunch of people who do make minimum wage on Shutterstock. The question for those who don't would then be... all things being equal, why do they make minimum wage and you don't? And if this did become a thing, then it would open up the floodgates for similar cases at every stock marketplace. Not just those, but Etsy, iTunes, eBay, Spotify, Youtube. Could farmers sue the farmers market if they don't earn enough in a day? When does it end?
Say that happens and everyone wins their cases... what happens then? You get your cheque in the mail and then the majority of these places would go bankrupt... those that don't would kick out anybody that wasn't making minimum wage, just keeping the top sellers onboard. And if we can sue them for not paying minimum wage then I'm guessing you feel we should be able to sue them for unfair dismissal? Congratulations... every single one of them has now gone bankrupt... there's not a single site platform left for content creators to distribute on other than creating their own.
We're not employees. We're not independent contractors. We're not freelancers that have been commissioned by the agencies. Shutterstock is a platform that we choose to use, or we choose not to use... and they are under no obligation to ensure we receive a minimum wage.
I'm sorry, but it's never going to happen and it's ridiculous to think it ever would.
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« on: June 19, 2020, 00:49 »
What would you sue them for?
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« on: June 17, 2020, 10:42 »
I'm with you dude... give 911 a call and let us know how you get on.
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« on: June 11, 2020, 03:09 »
Global Partner Program. The Global Partner Program allows you to distribute your work to a group of hand-selected resellers and high-volume customers who have not previously used our marketplace. Pond5 has officially signed eight hand-selected distribution partners, including a new partnership with Adobe, the industry-leader in creative desktop and mobile apps.
By participating in the Global Partner Program, Pond5 Artists will receive royalties comparable to selling directly through our partners, while also benefiting from unique sales and marketing opportunities, premium pricing, and the ability to earn additional royalties from enhanced license sales all through one upload to Pond5. As always, Pond5 artists will receive their industry-leading revenue share of all sales Pond5 generates from these collaborations.
If you are opted-in to our Global Partner Program, there is nothing additional you need to do to take advantage of this partnership. If you already contribute content to Adobe Stock or one of our other resellers, no action is needed, as they will be working to prevent duplication on their sites. You can opt out in your settings if you'd like.
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« on: June 11, 2020, 03:04 »
12 new sales... nice! I'm assuming they're sales through some kind of partner site or something, and they get reported in chunks rather than every day.
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« on: June 09, 2020, 02:11 »
My last video sale there was 2016... wouldn't recommend bothering!
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« on: June 08, 2020, 03:17 »
Will probably stay steady for the Q2 results, won't be until the Q3 results come out that it starts to increase.
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« on: June 05, 2020, 06:23 »
True, but but this thread is about Shutterstock being stubborn, dumb and making a mistake. If this does result in SS having a much larger market share then is that a lose/lose for them?
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« on: June 05, 2020, 05:27 »
Completely agree with Fern... buyers will probably not even notice the drop in files, and even if they do, give it two or three weeks and they'll have more content than before any of this was all announced. I think it's probably a little bit naive to assume that the 0.3% of content that's gone was amazing, and current, and of an exceptional quality... and the remaining 99.7% is outdated, low quality and taken on a smartphone. If that was the case, buyers would have left a long time ago. SS knew exactly what they were doing, they ran the numbers, analysed the potential risks and they'll be just fine... but with a much higher profit margin.
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