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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: February 17, 2011, 17:57 »
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Yeah, I wonder why they don't just kill it off and be done with it, whatever the problems were.
I'm told they planned to launch with 10,000 logo's and they don't even have half that. I'm amazed anyone is actually bothering to upload still as it's about 15 months behind schedule on the launch date.

This is interesting since today they said they planned to launch editorial with 5k files.  Why so many for logos?

logos are a different monster as they are a one time sale and then they are gone.  with the editorial it's like the rest of the images - they are for sale over and over again. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: February 17, 2011, 15:41 »
I'm with you.  the PTOTW is for photographers to pimp their work.  do buyers really go in there?  I mean buyers other than the contributors who like to join in on the PTOTW?  I have gone in there a few times in the past but never got any sales from it.  it's a fun place to socialize and show off your work to other contributors but I am not so sure how advantageous it is for sales.

I've never looked at the pimping threads.

I find the new rules difficult follow? Has it turned into a once a month thing? How can it be weekly if the themes are posted on the first Friday of the month and the pimping thread is on the last Friday of the month?

too many rules. it has been killed. 

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Veer / Re: veer a wasted effort for new contributors?
« on: February 17, 2011, 14:55 »
it got a huge tax 30% on some countries...for US sales.

So for Dash for Cash, i got 30% gone..and it seems the major customers are US..so i got almost 99% sales are US sales..

it is like whenever i make $100, i only got $70.. too bad.

I dont think I understand what this means, but if I'm in the US does it matter to me?

No.

cool thanks.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: February 17, 2011, 14:32 »
I think we should add PTOTW epic fail...
In the forums they ask to brainstorm along about a new way of doing it; the massive consensus is 'leave it as it is; istock controls too much already as it is", the opinions didnt matter, they're going to do how they feel it should be done anyways.

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=304702&page=1


Who cares? The PTOTW is only for hobbists with too much time on their hands anyway. I can't imagine why anyone would even bother to click on such a thread, much less actually participate. Life is simply too short for such nonsense.


I'm with you.  the PTOTW is for photographers to pimp their work.  do buyers really go in there?  I mean buyers other than the contributors who like to join in on the PTOTW?  I have gone in there a few times in the past but never got any sales from it.  it's a fun place to socialize and show off your work to other contributors but I am not so sure how advantageous it is for sales.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Buyers Bailing on Istock
« on: February 16, 2011, 17:49 »
I can care less about the acceptance rate. Our agency just cares about quality. Companies are willing to spend the money for the right photo.
Let me show you some examples of some garbage:
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-creative-work-image10178466
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photos-what-s-the-problem--image10178178
I just searched with the keywords, "laptop, man". Now tell me, if you cant tell the difference between istock and the other agencies than you don't have an eye for design. If I were a student or a freelancer with a low budget, then I would consider using canstock, dreamstime, shutterstocketc.


So these are examples to show that Istock has the superior images and other sites' reviewers need to step up?

As others have said, there is crap on all sites (including Istock). Sometimes the same crap (including Istock).

Maybe Istock reviewers need to step up too...  ;)


that's funny. I guess it just goes to show that you need to do your homework and get the facts before you post - especially around here!  :)

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Veer / Re: veer a wasted effort for new contributors?
« on: February 16, 2011, 16:47 »
it got a huge tax 30% on some countries...for US sales.

So for Dash for Cash, i got 30% gone..and it seems the major customers are US..so i got almost 99% sales are US sales..

it is like whenever i make $100, i only got $70.. too bad.

I dont think I understand what this means, but if I'm in the US does it matter to me?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Buyers Bailing on Istock
« on: February 16, 2011, 12:12 »
Kind of seems as if it is unfashionable here to be positive or even neutral about iStockphoto :) But surely it's more useful to be neutral. I'm neutral. I think there are some other great sites too. I also love flickr. So there. Despite the economy it's still a vibrant market.

Caspixel says she uses the site for various reasons - one being that it has the content she wants at lower prices. That's useful buyer info. There is someone who is quite definitely not an iStockphoto cheerleader saying something which seems to very much contradict the idea that people would be 'bailing' because it is too expensive etc.

That's anecdotal feedback worth not ignoring. Even though it seems to contradict the meme being propagated here. So there are obviously lots of issues. But it seems that the rumour that iStockphoto is necessarily more expensive is potentially bogus.

I think you mis-read her post.  here is the follow-up she posted:

So people saying that iStockphoto is too expensive but actually you're shopping there because it's less expensive.

No, I'm not saying they are less expensive than other agencies. In general they aren't, because the credits are across the board more expensive than at other agencies. What I am saying is that the non-exclusive files are less expensive than the exclusive one.

See my previous post that clarifies how I might purchase an image.

BTW, one of the main reasons I also don't want to pay a lot for stock is because I don't really buy images that require big studio set-ups and models. Mostly I buy a lot of textures and things like that. I don't see a need to plunk down a hundred bucks for stuff like that. When things were really tight last year (and iStock's prices kept rising) I actually just started making my own background textures.

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Veer / Re: veer a wasted effort for new contributors?
« on: February 16, 2011, 11:54 »
are accpetances times long at Veer?  (at least at the moment).  I've been waiting 2 weeks for my first 10 images and application to be reviewed so not sure if that is long or not.  But once I'm in can I expect this long before images are reviewed and added to my port as well?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Buyers Bailing on Istock
« on: February 16, 2011, 11:20 »
it seems to me that istock has some excellent marketing.  with that they have built a large, loyal buyer and contributor base.  I would venture to guess that many folks have been convinced from some really good marketing that iStock has the best images without actually downloading and reviewing files from other sites.  It's kind of like the microsoft v. apple or canon v. nikon -- both are good in their own right and people will believe what they want to believe.   

I don't think that the likes of Yuri, MonkeyBusiness and LisaFX only upload their best stuff to iStock and their crap work (if they actually had any!) to the other sites.  If a buyer wanted to find quality images on other sites I am sure they will find them.

perhaps the inspections at other sites (non-istock) had lower standards sometime back, but in my recent experience, I would say they are pretty much on par with istock.  I've had images rejected from the other SS, DT and FT that were accepted by iStock. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Anyone cancel exclusive contract yet?
« on: February 16, 2011, 09:23 »
I dropped exclusivity shortly after the announcement in 2009.
the download is not so bad, but the pay is very low now.

you mean the new royalty scheme announced in sept 2010? or which 2009 announcement are you referring to?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Anyone cancel exclusive contract yet?
« on: February 15, 2011, 23:07 »
i know I am beating a drum we have all heard; but if you drop exclusive, be prepared for a ton of work to get your port. on other sites.  i just drop excl. at DT and it is a ton of work to get the port. on the other sites.  Even with lightburner, it is still a ton of work.  Yes, some of the sites are a breeze but most are a royal pain, like BigStock and Panther.

This is my full-time job so must suck it up and work the long hours to get the port developed across the entire system.  Excl. is not an option at IS as I am only allowed 18 uploads a week and it would take years to get my port their.

Acceptance is going well, most sites well over 90%

I guess it depends on the sites.  I've not had much problem with the ones I'm submitting to - but I'm sticking with the top tier mostly, except for StockFresh, which I am holding out hope for.  :) I am at IS, DT, SS, FT, Stockfresh, Alamy and am waiting for an acceptance to Veer.  I find the process fairly painless as long as my images have the metadata before I upload them with the FTP. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Time to celebrate?
« on: February 15, 2011, 18:12 »
Thanks Sean.  So it is another Istockalypse then.  Wooyay.   ::)

it's the magician's trick. don't look at all the things wrong over here.. look at the shiny, fun istockalypse!  wooyay!

I used to get excited about these things and dream about attending something I could never afford.  but now it's just feels like rubbing salt into my wounds.  perhaps I'm still a little bitter over the whole royalty scheme fiasco.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Buyers Bailing on Istock
« on: February 15, 2011, 13:59 »
On the rare occasion that I might happen to purchase from iStock, I would only buy from non-exclusives at this point. I'm glad there are still other people who buy from exclusives, because I don't have anything against them, I just don't care for the greedy corporate attitude and constant price hikes coming out of HQ.

Yeah, that'll show 'em.  Buy the images where they get to keep the most, instead of supporting the people who get to keep a higher percentage.  Good thought process!

if you're referring to "where iStock (they) get to the keep the most" - technically you're right - istock keeps a higher percentage BUT it is of a lower dollar amount so istock actually makes less money off of the non-exclusive content then they do off of the exclusive content. 

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This remind me on Microsoft story. Nobody likes Microsoft but still 90% of the people are using Windows and Linux is for free.
 Why??? It's the same answer for iStock?
Well , whatever small fish do the big one will double the bait($$$)
They are too big and strong to beat them. You can join them or vanish.  It's your choice.


One more thing, who is the big fish?
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/istockphoto.com+shutterstock.com/


is the Alexa data of "reach" the same as "unique visitors" which is what the siteanalytics is showing.
Or you can look at alexa:

The last time this conflict of stats occurred, I asked if anyone could interpret the figures, and no-one offered.
Can I ask again, please? By which I mean how each site gathers their statistics, therefore why they are so different.

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StockFresh / Re: What????
« on: February 14, 2011, 10:02 »
well what do you want them to say?  I agree to the extent that perhaps they should have at least sent something to acknowledge that they had responded to your request to close your account.  But you asked for them to close it so they did.  If you were looking to have a dialog to discuss why your images were rejected, then asking to have your account closed seems to me to end that dialog. 

Perhaps you could have instead waited to get a response if you were interested in finding out why the rejection rate was so high.  It is a new site and yes, I've had a few questionable rejections myself, but I just move on as the rejected images are still for sale elsewhere.  I am assuming they are putting most of their efforts into the building and marketing of the site.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: E+ Problem
« on: February 11, 2011, 09:36 »
it's just like the people who are trying to get rid of their crown... 30 day waits have turned into 45+ 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Image Thieves targetting IS again?!!
« on: February 11, 2011, 09:35 »
Anyone else thinking that this could be another one of istock's "tests" to see how we react before making a more permanent policy change? They test price increases before launching them officially. Maybe they're testing out a policy on fraudulent charges.

DT already does this, charging all fraudulent purchases back to the contributor. istock might be looking at this as another way to get a few more bucks out of us on a regular basis.

interesting theory but I seriously doubt that.  Too large of amounts to be a "test" 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: February 09, 2011, 23:44 »
Yeah, I wonder why they don't just kill it off and be done with it, whatever the problems were.
Wouldn't that be considered an admission of guilt (or failure)?
Something iStock doesn't want to be involved with (officially).

in the past they have killed a few other ventures that failed: istockpro and BuyRequest.  so I could see it happening. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Buyers Bailing on Istock
« on: February 09, 2011, 17:20 »
The Getty badmouthing IS has been heard before, it's not new.

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Also, I would say at least once every other month I get a "Can we buy from you outside of istock" email from buyers.
   

I have sold  a lot of images and I have never had this, I'm amazed you get it every 2 months.

I'm surprised. I would think more people would have this happen. I had one today, but it wasn't quite the same. It is "Can I buy this from you, since Istock doesn't allow me to resell t-shirts with this design?" OBVIOUSLY, not quite the same as I mentioned before, and I will just refer them back to istock customer relations to discuss licensing options.

Apprently people find me to be very emailable???

is it email or sitemail? perhaps a lot of photogs dont publish their emails on their istock portfolio page.  It doesn't automatically get listed there anyhow, does it?  at least mine is not there, but my website link is.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Anyone getting files reviewed?
« on: February 09, 2011, 14:09 »
iStock usually assigns different inspectors to the different types of media/programs.  So I'm going to guess that the editorial stuff is different inspectors, although they could have moved some inspectors from one section to there and now have a shortage of inspectors for the regular queue.  but who knows.  Isn't there a rule of thumb to contact support if it goes longer than a certain time.  like longer than week for exclusives and non-exlusives if it's longer then 2 or 3 weeks -- something like that?

I dont keep track much at istock anymore.  I just upload a forget about it, since half the time once it's inspected it still doesn't show up in your portfolio for another week.  the site is so screwy right now.  I'm concentrating on building my ports at the other sites now -SS, DT, SF, FT, etc.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Buyers Bailing on Istock
« on: February 09, 2011, 14:06 »
I guess the reps are desperate to earn commission, and it wouldn't be the only industry in which commission-based reps lie to boost their own income.

I totally understand why a rep would lie to get a commission (not that I agree with it).  That's salesmanship 101.  What is surprising to me is that they would tell lies that trash part of their own company.  ???

Sadly I don't find this too surprising.  if you've ever worked a commission job with pushy sales co-workers you'll find that some of these people will trash their own mother if they felt it would get them the sale and no one else. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Freedom of speech and a hint of intimidation
« on: February 09, 2011, 10:22 »
I was just over at the forums and saw one thing that made me wonder... The forum index showed Lobo as the most recent post for the Discussion forum, but when I went to that forum he wasn't a recent poster on any of the top threads that had posts in the past hour or so (including stickies at the top).  Maybe he got his post deleted for going to far???

actually there's a update thing that is totally off on the index page.  just check it after you post something and you'll notice that you are not right away listed as the most recent post.  I'm pretty sure that was probably what you experienced since I seriously doubt that has been fixed in all these years.  it's been like that for a long time now.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Buyers Bailing on Istock
« on: February 08, 2011, 14:28 »
^^^ I note that even though the poster clearly wishes to remain anonymous, having deliberately avoided the question once, Lobo continues to press for his (or hers) identification.

yeah, first thing I noticed too.  interesting lobo added that "you can chose to remain anonymous" .. okay, so why ask the person again? 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Freedom of speech and a hint of intimidation
« on: February 08, 2011, 13:16 »

It's probably Lobo that does Twitter too, when he's not monitoring the forums. :D

I was thinking the same thing but this person did seem like a decent individual

I am pretty sure it is NOT lobo.  I am pretty sure it used to be Rob Sylvan but since he's gone I am not sure who it is.  whoever it is is much nicer than lobo and does get a lot of ranting tweets aimed at them but seems to stay very calm and civil.  

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock F5 epic fail
« on: February 07, 2011, 18:20 »
Did anyone else see this post in the Independence Day forum that Brigit (StockCube) has?  Apparently there is a backlog and people who have cancelled their IS exclusivity have been waiting OVER the 30 day mark?  some are at 45 days and counting and IS has not changed their status yet.

http://the-independence-day-forum.983074.n3.nabble.com/iStock-mucks-up-the-works-td2444013.html

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