When you win the real lottery, you get money. When you win the Unsplash lottery, you get nada.

When you post "free" YouTube videos, you get money from advertising, Patreon, sponsors, etc. When you give away photos on Unsplash, you get nada.

Who knows how many views our images get? I'm sure the top stock photographers' views blow the woman from Utah's views out of the water. The difference is, they get MONEY.

Money, it's a hit. Don't give me that do goody good...

My sales have returned to normal, if you consider lower sales every year normal.

Did everyone see the video of him getting on the plane with the wind exposing his almost completely bald head? Don't watch it while eating, is all I can say.

What bugged me about the blog post is that it showed Stocksy is willing to do a fair bit of hand holding and ruffled feather soothing if you have a popular blog or Twitter account, but they'll dismiss everyone else with a standard form email and no other feedback...after they've been kept hanging for four months.

It was clear the instant rejection after the tweet, the quick ego-soothing followup email, the chirpy, friendly comments on the blog post by Stocksy members and the sharing of the blog here were all meant to keep that photographer saying positive things about Stocksy, while also giving all other rejected photographers a condescending lesson about how they "should" react after being rejected in a much less personal way.

Icky.

Sad but true. I believe I've shared the story of the client who asked us to flip a photo of a football player over so she could see him from the front instead of the back...that story became infamous in the industry and has even come back to me as an internet meme.

Her sole purpose in life was to put the creative department through every change she could possibly think of, no matter how nonsensical.

My images aren't visible in their editor; newly uploaded images aren't showing up at all.

Clearly the rejections have absolutely nothing to do with quality. They don't want any competition for their current photographers (understandable), but they do want everyone to think they're a super exclusive club that's very hard to get into. Otherwise they could simply invite people who fill their open niches, as mentioned earlier.

You guys are super talented and deserve much more respectful treatment.

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Cultural differences my behind. Black people were forced here (the U.S.) as slaves and have been purposely under educated and locked up in for profit prisons for minor offenses because if slavery can't be legal, then you can at least make laws to target them pretty specifically, red line districts to keep them from living in better neighborhoods with better schools, and keep as many as possible locked up and out of the workforce and the voting booths (where they'd vote for liberals).

When you say "we," who are you referring to, exactly? You write as if you live in the U.S., but you actually live in Canada, a country with a much, much lower incarceration rate.

Valid points Shelma, but you make it sound like a conspiracy.
I don't think that the system has been purposely designed to oppress minorities.
Instead, the majority wants politicians to be "tough on crime" and the consequence is a system with outrageous fines and prison sentences for minor offences.
Personally, I had to pay $85 for running in the park after sunset. It's not an issue for me, but people close to the poverty line might have real trouble paying it. As seen in the stories I provided links for, there are cases where fines are significantly higher, also for minor offences. Failure to pay those fines can lead to jail.
Maybe the reasons behind the "tough on crime" expectations for our politicians derive from the general feel of not being safe Americans have. Maybe it is linked to the wide availability of guns, maybe it is linked to the exacerbated discourse related to terrorism, etc.
So it is not really a conspiracy, but rather a logical consequence of deeper flaws in our system.

I used to feel that way. Then I did some reading and found it actually is a conspiracy, unfortunately. The U.S. government has absolutely been involved in efforts over the centuries to purposely keep black people from being properly educated; has given only white G.I.s loans and access to decent housing after they return from war; has crafted laws and longer prison sentences that target specific forms of drugs (crack cocaine rather than powdered, for example, because blacks used more crack and whites more powder); has redlined housing districts to exclude blacks from decent neighborhoods, basically forcing them into ghettos where they are surrounded by crime and receive sub par education.

Studies have consistently shown that blacks (and women) receive worse health care than white men. Black people are arrested more often than white people for drug offenses, even though whites are more likely to use drugs. They receive longer prison terms for the same crimes. They're shot to death by police for all kinds of nonsense. Banks purposely charge them outlandish fees while giving white people free banking. Basically, the white establishment does everything it can to keep black people down. It's purposeful, 100%.

Yeah, a million in earnings might be worth hearing about. 100K just tells me people don't make much there compared to Shutterstock.

�I�ve been with Alamy since 2004 and have have done much better than I ever expected, with nearly $700,000 in gross sales in that time.�

If I did my math correctly he's bringing home about $2,000/month-$24,000/year in royalties, which isn't terrible, but it sounds like he's the top of the top at Alamy. So there's no way you can make a living just submitting there. In fact, he goes on to say he has to make money doing other things because he doesn't make enough shooting stock. Depressing.

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You mean like we actually get what was promised or voted for? I haven't seen anyone running on law and order where I live, longer jail sentences or more convictions. Do you make this up of do you live in the American Southwest, where crime, illegals and stupid politicians are rampant? California the land of fruits and nuts.

Assume I'm wrong then: what do you think explains that the US has five per cent of the world's population, and 25% of the world's prisoners?

US is not far from the definition of a police state.
People go to prison for being poor and unable to pay stupidly huge fines, initiating a vicious poverty circle.
There is also the "war" on drugs, one of the main reasons for unnecessary incarceration, but still a successful way for backward minded politicians to get elected.
Police has way too much power in US. It often looks like an occupation army. But "law and order" is another election winning slogan.

So much for the "land of the free"!

Right we should do nothing about people who rob and mug others for drug money. People who are poor might be going to jail for committing crimes, not for being poor. You may like anarchy until you get beat up on the street by someone who needs a few bucks for a fix.

Young black males without a high school diploma were more likely to be in prison or jail (37 percent) on any given day in 2008 than to be working (26 percent). People without jobs and without education, end up suffering the most. I think we need to fix the education system and help these people get out of poverty and the slums. First step would be schools that teach instead of warehousing kids. Then stop the liberals from passing everyone on and out, as long as they feel good about themselves, and start helping kids learn something.

Less Latinos are in jail then blacks because the illegals just get send back or deported. Don't blame crime on race, or blame the system for arresting criminals, that's racist as all hell. Blame the system that doesn't allow equal opportunity for school and jobs. When blacks are in gangs, have more out of wedlock children, or filling prisons, do say, oh its just part of their culture the white people don't understand.

If we are all the same, we all need to live together and behave the same with the same laws. There's no free pass for cultural differences, one nation. Stop dividing and start joining together. There are many other minorities other than blacks and latinos, they don't end up in prisons and the poorest areas, with high risk neighborhoods and gangs. Why is that? Maybe there is a cultural difference and some groups aren't joining into the system.

Why do the California colleges have set quotas for the number of Asians allowed into a college class, racial discrimination, but have to reserve spots for other minorities, to make sure those less qualified minorities can get into school. Cultural? You bet your ass. If we all get what we earn based on qualifications, work and skills, why do some have to get special treatment to be equal?

Pretty much everyone here doesn't like others who get accused of better treatment in the search, a better % rate, more sales because the agency might be favoring them. Then on the forum you defend the same discrimination in the culture you live in? That's strange.

People are in jail because they commit crimes and the system prosecutes. There's no bias or law and order agenda that says we need more people in prisons. We need less. My exception to this is any crime committed with a gun should have a mandatory sentence, but you would probably argue that too many people went to prison for that, at the same time crying about gun crimes? Make up your mind.

I say better education will make for better opportunities and in the long term less young people in jail because they are living in poverty and poor conditions. With education and skills they can bring themselves out of that cycle. Prisons don't rehabilitate anyone or if they do, it's a small number.

If you don't want people in prison, how would you deal with crime? That's my question?

Cultural differences my behind. Black people were forced here (the U.S.) as slaves and have been purposely under educated and locked up in for profit prisons for minor offenses because if slavery can't be legal, then you can at least make laws to target them pretty specifically, red line districts to keep them from living in better neighborhoods with better schools, and keep as many as possible locked up and out of the workforce and the voting booths (where they'd vote for liberals).

When you say "we," who are you referring to, exactly? You write as if you live in the U.S., but you actually live in Canada, a country with a much, much lower incarceration rate.

I suppose a corporate client could license an image, and then their billing department could pay for it a couple of weeks later. I think the only way to find out who licenses your images is the way you did...by stumbling on it in print (or googling yourself).

It seems that all gradually accept SS innovations?

What can you do? A whole lot of people complained, but it's clear they're not going back to the faster interface. Uploading is now slow and clunky, but there's no alternative.

It does make me like Adobe more, tho.

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