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General Stock Discussion / Re: Coronavirus ?
« on: March 27, 2020, 15:58 »
Meanwhile, Boris  has tested positive
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52060791

What....no herd immunity?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Coronavirus ?
« on: March 23, 2020, 07:34 »
You can ignore the confirmed cases numbers because the UK has also pretty much not been testing compared to lot of other countries. Another thing the WHO was pleading with them to do more of.
Testing regimes vary widely so I think its probably an unreliable statistic for comparison. Its probably something that can't keep pace while the cases are accelerating. Its accepted in the UK that only those that have potentialy serious effects are being tested. If we have mild indications we are just told to self isolate.

Good points both. China just said "no new cases reported" Which the last word is most important. Plus what both of you pointed out, if someone isn't tested, they aren't confirmed. Self Quarantine in home if you suspect you have the virus, is a good plan, but none of those are counted.

Please folks, stop blaming, accusing, and debating politics, and stick to the virus COVID-19 problem?

Or maybe blame the cause, which seems to be ignored and some are defending, poor sanitary conditions, open markets with animal slaughtering. We can't call this the Wuhan virus, because we're all being politically correct? Yet, there's a never ending attack on just about any leaders or people in power, now "capitalism". LOL

COVID-19 came from China (a Communist country by the way), wet market, where they slaughter live animals in public. And now people are calling for Trump, Putin, Boris and others to fall because of that? Some are blaming humans for being on the planet, global warming, and the vegetarians even more the uppity self-righteous Vegans who blame anyone who eats meat. I read how God is punishing us, how this is a plot, blaming the East, The West or someone else, depending on where the person lives or their political leanings.

What I'm asking it this. Can we stop the endless, useless, politics and blame? COVID-19 is here. Attacking others, other countries, or leaders isn't doing anything but create division and anger, when we need to be more together. Blame or hate is not a cure for anything.

Yes, but well never learn and change our ways if we dont look at history and see that many of our pandemics...the Spanish flu, HIV, SARS, Mad Cow, H1N1, Covid-19...come from our obsession with eating meat. We catch things from chickens, pigs, bats, cows, monkeys, not because we happen run across them, but because we pack them and ourselves into relatively cramped spaces and slaughter them, exposing ourselves to their diseases in unnatural conditions. And of course, here in the U.S. and increasingly around the world (as our crappy diet takes over) we also suffer from conditions like obesity, diabetes, cancer and heart disease, all caused in large part by eating too much meat and dairy.

Not to mention climate change and mass extinction, also caused by tearing down forests in order to raise animals for slaughter.

Were killing ourselves and the planet by not eating what doctors and nutritionists recommend, which is a plant-heavy diet.

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A lot of advertising assignments are being put on hold, and we freelancers are not getting any work. So Id guess therell be a negative impact.

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General - Top Sites / Re: Frustrated with Shutterstock reviewers
« on: February 18, 2020, 07:24 »
Follow the money.

1. Reviewers get paid per image, so if they reject everything in two seconds and then accept in two seconds when resubmitted they get paid twice.

2. If youre an established contributor, you make a higher royalty rate and SS keeps less of the money, so your work gets rejected more often and when accepted automatically gets pushed back in the search. That way new contributors can flood the site with images that get pushed to the top, and SS keeps more money by paying lower royalties.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Freepik
« on: January 03, 2020, 19:29 »
Any time I see people discussing this scummy operation I feel compelled to remind everyone that they started out by stealing illustrations and offering them for free, including dozens of my illustrations, which they gave away for years. Theyre common thieves who for some reason are still allowed to be SS affiliates despite the fact that I reported them to SS for their thefts.

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https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/1-billion-contributor-earnings

I was surprised to see that my earnings hit a pretty big milestone at some point this year, despite my not uploading anything in months and months (though my monthly earnings are dropping).

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock reviewers are idiots
« on: December 09, 2019, 07:20 »
Reviewers are most likely paid per image, so they make twice as much money by mass rejecting everything and then mass accepting when you resubmit.

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I uploaded files buyers specifically requested with elements theyve already approved and they rejected them for not having reference images. I really dont know if I can be bothered re-uploading with screen shots from their own freaking site in order to make 38 cents. I haven't uploaded anything since their stupid requirement to make the illustrations as large as billboards and wouldn't have bothered with these if they hadnt been requested.

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General Stock Discussion / California AB 5 and NJ S4204
« on: November 22, 2019, 08:42 »
Anyone in NJ and California familiar with these bills? Any idea how they might affect working with the stock sites? I'm guessing stock companies' argument would be that they're technology companies and what we do is outside the scope of their regular work, and that they don't employ us but represent us. However, in NJ they're limiting freelancers to submitting 35 works of art or writing per year per business...

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Thats the beginning of the end for Getty, as RM people realize they can make more by spreading their work around.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: vectorstock customization service
« on: October 26, 2019, 09:54 »
I see it.

What is Hire a Designer?

Hire a Designer is a VectorStock service that customizes one of our vector images on your behalf.

We have a group of talented artists that can quickly make changes to the artwork and send you the altered image in a format of your choice. All you need to do is describe what you want changed and provide the artist feedback as they make adjustments.
Perfect if you dont have the time or ability to make the updates yourself.

Suitable for:
Removing elements (eg. background layers)
Adjusting colors
Customizing the text (eg. change "Lorem Ipsum" to your company name)
Incorporating your logo or symbol in the artwork
Minor edits (eg. switch an image from facing left to right)

Not suitable for:
Designing new artwork or creating new elements

Pretty obnoxious that they have staff wholl make more money making slight changes to our art than we do creating it in the first place.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Good bye Adobe Stock from Venezuela.
« on: October 21, 2019, 14:08 »
Universal health care, while imperfect, is generally a good idea for for low income and middle income people. In the United States, the richest 5% of tax payers pay 56% of federal income tax

Even putting aside the talk of universal health care, almost all people in the United States are net beneficiaries of taxes from the ultra wealthy, all because the ultra wealthy pay the majority of taxes.

"The top 5% of households, three quarters of whom had two income earners, had incomes of $166,200 or higher."

That means in a lot of those cases, each person in a two-earner family earned an average of $83,100 per year. Not exactly ultra-wealthy.

However, there are a few dozen families who ARE ultra-wealthy, and this year their tax rate fell BELOW that of the middle class for the first time.

It's sick that the ultra-wealthy have bought our government representatives and had laws passed that give them ever greater wealth while simultaneously having laws passed that give them lower tax rates.

They game the system so that money is extracted from the lower classes and passed up to them....whether it's through stagnant wages that give them unprecedented corporate earnings and bonuses, predatory lending practices that keep the poor in debt and paying exorbitant interest rates, creating a gig economy that keeps workers from getting benefits, and any other number of nefarious means.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Good bye Adobe Stock from Venezuela.
« on: October 12, 2019, 07:20 »
Sean I have been to all those places. Very high taxes, some have free health care but poor care. Many of those people with money come to America to get great heath care. Even Mic Jagger came to California to get his heart worked on. He is from the UK and they have really poor free health care. Not even sure if Mic would have been cover because of his old age in the UK.  Sean it seems you clearly like Socialism in America. That is your right. For me Socialism is just a pre- word for communism. Sean is the world going to come to an end in twelve years for our abuse of the pollution in the world. You don't even need to answer that, AOC says it will come to an end.....We all know AOC is so smart...

Secede. Seriously. Get by on $1 back for $1 paid in tax. New York gets back only 80, yet THAT'S where MicK Jagger went for his heart operation. My mother lay in the hallway on a gurney for 24 hours when she went to the emergency room...in New Jersey. She was seriously injured by subpar medical care...right here in the USA. Right here in the USA, where getting subpar medical care not only injures you but also bankrupts you. These are the countries with the best medical care:

Canada
Qatar
France
Norway
New Zealand
Germany
Hong Kong
The Netherlands
Switzerland
Singapore
Luxembourg
Japan
Sweden

The U.S. ranks #37.

Coincidentally enough, Texas ranks #37 in health care in the U.S. Maybe that's why Jagger didn't go to Texas for his operation.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Creative Cloud Bonus Program
« on: October 11, 2019, 10:14 »
Got mine today! Ha ha! Just kidding! Im a worthless illustrator!

What about animating your illustrations and uploading it as video? If your subject matter is suitable, you could try that.

Are photographers required to animate their photos to get Photoshop?

Please explain why only one group of contributorsa very successful group that consistently brings in a lot of sales for stock sitesare left out of this.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Good bye Adobe Stock from Venezuela.
« on: October 09, 2019, 20:11 »
I don't know who mj007 is or where he/she lives, but I have noticed that it's usually people who live in the taker states and use our "socialist" programs the most who yell the loudest about "socialism." I rarely hear anything about fear of "socialism" from the giver states that pay the most in federal taxes and prop up the taker states...in fact, we're willing to pay a little more for the betterment of society, and that includes helping the "socialists" who are currently using up the tax dollars we're already donating to them but are simultaneously terribly afraid of so-called "socialism."

Texas...We have a great economy. Our unemployment is almost zero. The housing prices are going up because of all the California folks moving to Texas. Why move to Texas, We have jobs, no State income tax, cheap housing cost and we love and carry guns. The folks that are moving to Texas which is about 50,000 people a month love the fact they can buy a 4000 sq foot home under 300K. Try that in California.

Texas gets about $1.40 back in federal benefits for every $1.00 paid in federal tax. Taker state. That's why you can buy a house dirt cheap there...we're supporting you. California gets 90 back for every dollar. Giver state. Delaware gets back less than 50 per dollar. Giver state. New Jersey, where I live, gets back 85. Giver state. New York, 80...giver state. You suck up all our tax dollars and then whine about socialism. I say secede and fend for yourselves.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Good bye Adobe Stock from Venezuela.
« on: October 09, 2019, 16:14 »
I don't know who mj007 is or where he/she lives, but I have noticed that it's usually people who live in the taker states and use our "socialist" programs the most who yell the loudest about "socialism." I rarely hear anything about fear of "socialism" from the giver states that pay the most in federal taxes and prop up the taker states...in fact, we're willing to pay a little more for the betterment of society, and that includes helping the "socialists" who are currently using up the tax dollars we're already donating to them but are simultaneously terribly afraid of so-called "socialism."

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Creative Cloud Bonus Program
« on: September 14, 2019, 17:02 »
Got mine today! Ha ha! Just kidding! Im a worthless illustrator!

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Adobe Stock / Re: Keywords Changed
« on: September 08, 2019, 05:59 »
What a depressing thread. Adobe replaces your keywords and then shows you different versions of keywords depending where you look? Insane.

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Shutterstock.com / SS continues to deteriorate
« on: August 29, 2019, 10:14 »
My apologies if this article has been posted previously.

The company reported anemic revenue growth figures, and revenue growth deceleration is becoming a major problem.
Enterprise revenue growth has fallen off a cliff and actually shrunk this quarter after being a prior source of optimism.
The $1.2B company has $260M in cash, but the business is struggling.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4288413-shutterstock-continues-deteriorate

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So I was wondering if essentially 'owning' your own site that was as easy as creating an account would be appealing.
always promised, never realized

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I will give some thought to the marketing aspect though - just as I was writing this had an idea that might be appealing, going to think about it to see if it would work...

are you saying you HAVEN'T yet given  'some thought' to marketing!??! and you wonder why no one takes your proposal seriously .

The original question was with respect to setting up the site itself, nothing to do with marketing. As an aside though, something occurred to me that might work marketing wise as well.

The number one question here is, do you have buyers lined up? Because as others have pointed out, marketing the site is our number one concern. And as others have pointed out, someone shows up here every few weeks with the idea of starting independent sites, but not one has ever thought about marketing and each one gets miffed when asked about it and complains that were negative or whiny. Dozens of us have tried it and spent time and money on it and the end result was a loss of time and money because there was no coordinated marketing. The title of your post is how much would you pay for your own site? The answer is zippo. All the big sites charge us nothing and have marketing in place. Your goal is to make money for yourself by selling us sites. Our goal is to make money for ourselves, not for you.

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A lot you have shared your thoughts and I appreciate it.

I wanted to respond to a few questions in particular

Yes perhaps $5 sub is too low, but who knows. Im not a marketplace with hundreds of million of images, whereas Shutterstock and others are. Yes a two buck site for each download would also work. Though the initial thought was looking for a way to draw traffic/customers to me.

Regarding selling myself short at $5 sub plan. Obviously that amount is silly, BUT unfortunately the entire industry is forever moving downwards in price. We all understand the only way to compete now is by price. There is no reason for a graphic designer to come to my site if it isnt a lot cheaper. Otherwise their time is better spent going to Shutterstock or wherever.

I use to be a graphic designer. Ive worked for 3 different very large advertising firms in New York City. I used to buy stock photos while I was a graphic designer. I have a good understanding what graphic designers are thinking when they buy images. Given how busy I used to be as a graphic designer, I would never go to someones personal site to find images, it would be a waste of my time. I was very busy and I worked on multiple accounts. Thus I already understand the bar to get busy graphic designers to go to a non-mega big stock site is quite high. Hence the thought of $5 sub plan. Plus look at the math, 4,000 accounts at $5 per month is $20,000. Which is more than I make now.

Regarding cold calling Ad agencies. I use to work for large agencies. For the biggest agencies, I could just stand outside on the road with a sign and business cards to give out. For the smaller agencies, it would be easy to just walk in and talk to front desk and drop of some cards. I can also reach out to very old contacts from the past. Though the most time effective way to market is to get on design blogs.

Anyway, I started this thread to sound off thoughts in my head and to see what others opinion might be. It is fairly obvious to me that the odds me trying it out are close to zero at the moment. Mostly because Id have to cancel the exclusive contract to try it out and the drop in income would be too much for me to bare. Though perhaps in 2 years time I might be in a better position to test it out. That is when an unrelated investment (non-stock photo) that Ive made in might bare fruit, and if so, it should pay out quite nicely.

If youve worked in advertising and know people in the business and have had success standing outside handing out cards, why would you not try to get custom shoots? I would think that would be much more lucrative than selling $5 sub plans to 4,000 people.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Creative Cloud Bonus Program
« on: August 21, 2019, 16:43 »
Wheres my code?

Oh wait...Im an illustrator. No soup for you.

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Shutterstock used to encourage this, and afaik they havent changed their policy, but maybe green reviewers would see them as similars now with their supposed crackdown. There were a few times they rejected my vectors as being identical to rasters when they allow it.

Thank You, I searched and didn't find anything about whether vectors were available as rasters, doesn't mean it's not there...  ;)

So from what I can guess, they might be considered a similar, even though they are different formats? AS must assume that anyone who downloads a vector has a way to convert it to a simple JPEG file or GIF.

Its best to upload both versions at the same time. But theres no guarantee a reviewer will be familiar with their rule about being able to sell both raster and vector versions of the same illo. Unfortunately a few reviewers have accepted my raster, then rejected the vector, and of course vectors generally sell much better.

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Shutterstock used to encourage this, and afaik they havent changed their policy, but maybe green reviewers would see them as similars now with their supposed crackdown. There were a few times they rejected my vectors as being identical to rasters when they allow it.

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