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Messages - Elenathewise

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I don't know what they are smoking there in Calgary... I was puzzled for a while reading this thread - which slider people are talking about? I think I found it now, at the very bottom under "Display settings" - it says "Choose the level of importance of keyword relevance". Seriously? Why would I want irrelevant results to be displayed in my search?... ??? That's question number one.
Question number 2 - why oh why can't they just have "Show me cheap stuff" and "Show me expensive stuff" options? Wouldn't that make things simple and transparent for buyers and fair to contributors? It's depressing but I think I know the answer to this one - they think they can trick and confuse the customers into spending more money that they should. Although (sadly) it's a common practice with many companies these days, buyers are getting smarter and not taking this anymore - they just leave and take their business elsewhere. That's what I do. That's what many people who buy on Istock will do (and I know are doing already). Too bad....
 

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Well sure! what I mean is, the golden days of RM and similar is gone. I only have to look at my own stats with over 25000 RM shots in my portfolio, built up over a period of 20 years. Ten years ago they used to bring in a six figured amount,  today: less then half.


Half of six figures is still good money, IMO.   :)

But I do get your point.  Images have been way devalued, and micros are probably to blame. 


I'd say, advancing technology is most likely to blame :) Digital+internet=You can produce more images faster and get them on the web for sale next day after you shot them. Of course prices would go down dramatically, micros just took advantage of that. What we should be surprised to see is that there are still a lot of people paying 300-400 dollars for an image. I can't see this going on forever - I mean, I like my "big" Alamy sales but unavoidably these prices will go down.
Istock tries to charge more for "Agency collection" but eventually people will realize that for that price they pay for image like this:
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-16133545-global-team-celebrating-together.php?st=45b44af
they can go to Shutterstock and buy a subscription and get - what's was that, 700 images of the same composition and quality?
Buyers are not stupid - it will take time, but eventually things will stabilize at micro prices. So let's enjoy our "big" sales while we can:)
And ya, if you can't make a living doing stock at micro prices, better get into something else, like assignments or weddings or corporate shots - lots to choose from.

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I think what they really meant to accomplishment with the "SR-EL" is something like:
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Unlimited Rights EL:
- no restriction on print run
- no restrictions on seat limits
- unlimited items for resale
- unlimited electronic items for resale

etc.  The whole notion of "ownership" is foggy at best.  Why not have just offered an "all you can eat" EL?

Why there is suddently so much fuss about SR-EL on Dreamstime?... They've had that option for years and there's been many sales of that kind - I had one in the early days when removing an image from other sites wasn't a big deal (now I wouldn't do that - selling on too many sites). It looks like you've been sitting behind the tall fence of your little Istock garden for too long and know little about what's going on in a big scary world...;-)

504
I never heard of him before but now I have and he'd getting a lot of publicity by doing this.
It's a good marketing trick - it looks like these days it's not enough to be just good at what you do, you have to do something outrageous to attract attention to yourself - Charlie Sheen phenomenon...
It might be that there are way too many people on this planet and it's getting so hard to get noticed.

505
General - Top Sites / Re: March - Nice
« on: March 31, 2011, 15:00 »
Yup March has been good almost everywhere - economy's picking up? One can hope....

506
Dreamstime.com / Re: Request for "Similars"
« on: March 31, 2011, 14:51 »
ya - funny

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Albumo.com / Re: Albumo rise from the dead
« on: March 31, 2011, 14:48 »
Yup my request to delete the files also went through very quickly.
Soon they won't have any images to sell though - I don't know who'd be ok with offering high-res images for 1 buck.

508
Off Topic / Re: What's your favorite dessert?
« on: March 29, 2011, 16:09 »
bread pudding with whipped cream.... yummm...

509
Dreamstime.com / Re: Stupid policy!
« on: March 28, 2011, 11:36 »
They need editors with some graphic design background. I can't tell you the strange variety of images I've needed to find to produce the concepts that pop into my mind when designing. You can't predict it and shouldn't try. I also don't care about the photographer who took the shot I need so his/her sales history is irrelevant. It's the quality of the shot that matters. They should accept images of good ( "top") quality and not worry about the rest. If the bulging image catalog is a problem, start weeding out old images.

I really hope people on DT hear you. The "similars" rejections there are not just annoying, often they don't even make any sense. They reject images of the same model with totally different face expressions as similars. You don't have to be a graphic designer to understand that often several images of the same model expressing different emotions are used to illustrate a concept or to promote a product or a service. But your choice on DT is severely restricted because they take 3 images out of available 15.... one of the reason I started to sell from my own site...

510
Site Related / Re: Bad Mouthing MSG
« on: March 28, 2011, 11:27 »
OMG, I DID NOT want to see Chuck's hairy torso THAT close.
Leaf, that's mean, you should have posted that with a warning!

511
Off Topic / Re: It's Friday! Friday! Fun Fun Fun - LOL
« on: March 25, 2011, 20:10 »

My father was a singer for his entire life, and made a huge mark in rock music.  Cancer took him last year, but I wonder what his take on this song would be?  If you do a web search on me, you can probably figure out who my father is, lol.   :D

You dad is RONNIE JAMES DIO??? Cool!!!

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When I sort by "Date uploaded" I don't see any images with 0 downloads... Just 1 and up. They don't show zeros at this point? I presume some of my latest stuff hasn't had a chance to sell yet - I mean, I know I am good, but not *that* good  ;)

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Off Topic / Re: It's Friday! Friday! Fun Fun Fun - LOL
« on: March 25, 2011, 12:04 »
Sigh... Soon they gonna make 7-year-olds sing - that market is still unexplored, right? And after that - toddlers.

514
Adobe Stock / Re: New Fotolia ad in Photoshop User
« on: March 25, 2011, 11:54 »
I guess it's an attempt to appeal to young "cool" and "hip" and pot-smoking graphic designer crowd - just starting in the business and needing cheap images. I have no idea if this kind of add works since I definitely don't belong to that crowd.
To me - but hey I am over 40 too:) - it just looks stupid.
They are definitely not targeting my demographics.

515
I consider it my job to supply customers with enough variations of compositions on the subject (I've had many direct emails from people asking me if I had the same subject shot at different angles, with more space to the side/top/bottom, different orientations) but at the same time not offering images that are too similar. For me, it's just common sense. So, with my own store (www.elenaphoto.com) I don't see a problem - if I have 10 images of the subject showing up in a row, I know they are different enough and there is no need to mix them up.
With agencies though it's a different story - sometimes reviewers don't have a good understanding of what is too similar and what's not (Dreamstime often drives me nuts - for example, images of the same model, one smiling, one totally serious were considered "similars", one approved, one rejected). So I do mix up for agencies, but not because I supply images that are too similar...

516
Albumo.com / Re: Albumo rise from the dead
« on: March 20, 2011, 22:09 »
Elena's portfolio is still there. I checked a few other known names and didn't find anything.

I have very, very bad memories of Albumo and trying to close my account (after my time commitment was up). They were bad news - I think anyone buying the assets would want to change the name


Wow I thought they just closed their doors and disappeared, just like Lucky Oliver did. I was able to login with old info and found that my balance there shows 8 dollars:)
Now what to do - demand this big money?... :-\
This is the weirdest one ever - we've seen them closing doors officially, being sold, fading quietly into non-existence, but I never saw one re-emerge from the dead! Kinda cool actually:)
But you know what, I think I should remove my images from there. It's a bit too weird...

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Any point in uploading?
« on: March 18, 2011, 13:06 »
By not uploading you only hurt yourself, nobody else. The agencies dont care, they can replace anyone tomorrow, nobody and I mean nobody is infallable, ( did I spell taht right)?

I think you meant indispensible?
http://www.ellenbailey.com/poems/ellen_323.htm


Yeah thats what I meant, still its true though, isnt it?

Absolutely: iStock, sadly, is not infallible and we, sadly, are not indispensible. ;-)


I would like to point out that iStock is also not indispensible... ;-) Works both way, right?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Any point in uploading?
« on: March 18, 2011, 12:25 »

I am still uploading to Istock, ATM, but if they can't get the site secured, and if it becomes a regular thing to have images stolen and money taken back, I would probably have to pull the plug.  I don't kid myself that they will miss me, but at some point it isn't about whether or not you will be missed, but what you are willing to tolerate. 

Same here. Still uploading but patience is running really low. At some point (which could be very close) it just won't be worth my time and efforts. There is only so much abuse you can take for money... as my previous corporate bosses had to learn. Actually they were genuinely surprised when I resigned - somehow these people think that employees will take crap forever, just because they have mortgages and kids. I think same story will happen here - if Istock continues with their crap, many talented people will stop uploading - they can save time and earn money somewhere else where they are treated decently. I am pretty sure that will surprise the Istock bosses, too. Some other people will stay and keep getting screwed and accept it as a way of life. Not me.

519
Newbie Discussion / Re: Financial Shots (Trade Mark) Issues
« on: March 18, 2011, 12:06 »
@ GL Reviewer - nice informative post, thanks!

520
General Photography Discussion / 100 years old color photos
« on: March 15, 2011, 13:13 »
Some amazing color photos from Russia taken in early 1900s. I absolutely love the composition of some of them, too - which proves that comp rules haven't changed much in 100 years!
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/08/russia_in_color_a_century_ago.html

521
Had enough of Russia?;-)
Return per image per month - 1-2 dollars on average, unless you do only highly conceptual shots and then it could be up to 5-7.

522
General Stock Discussion / Re: Embarrassing microstocking!!
« on: March 13, 2011, 19:47 »
I don't think public embarrassment of one - notorious - agency speaks badly of microstock in general. Plus, all this sh*t started happening on Istock after Getty bought it - so really, it's embarrassment not of microstock, but of one of the major "trads". Of course "trads" - especially ones that did not embrace new business model - would be jumping on news like this to discredit the "undersellers". As to customers, they are not going anywhere - the demand is out there, if they don't buy it on Istock, they'll buy on other micros. One thing for sure: someone who wants to buy an image for few bucks won't go to "trads" to spend hundreds...

523
A thought I just had...  Perhaps the reason that Istock announced this clawback a week in advance was to see what, if anything, we were going to do about it. 

Would the organizing of an audit or a class action lawsuit cause them to rethink the wisdom of this theft of funds from their contributors? 

I think that they only real reason that they gave a week's notice was to allow 'easy payment' arrangements to be made if necessary.

With the amount of money at stake, particularly for exclusives, an audit has to be necessary. My own 'refunds' are quite suspicious and mean that on one Saturday for example I was only left with two 'real' downloads. Really? I haven't had a 'two download day' since the f*cking old king died.

Wow nice catch. I am usually too lazy to look at details like this - but people reporting here that some images got downloaded twice or unrealistically low number of downloads per day does makes you think that Istock explanation of this has nothing to do with reality.

524
I just hope whoever is doing this is caught and we do find out what they were doing with our images.  I really can't understand why a thief that had access to so many stolen credit card details would use them to buy images from istock.  There must be lots of better ways to make money from credit card fraud?

How do we know that the credit card thieves aren't buying other things besides stock images? Maybe, as someone already mentioned, the credit card thief just happens to be a photographer or designer and stealing from istock is purely for fun? That they haven't stolen electronics, games, itunes, Starbucks coffee, whatever other things millions of people purchase on a daily basis?

Purely for fun - not on this scale. We're talking about hundreds of thousands dollars here in image "purchases". Which could be explained by someone breaking into or having access to the Istock customers' credit card information and then having fun with it.

525
I'm just wondering ...
- my total loss (this month) is about 26 dollars = 5% of January sales (so the 1 in 20 rule goes for me too)
- my lowest figure in the fraudulent download list is 1,9 dollar
- my lowest sales in general (for XS size) is 0,20 dollars (average 0,25 dollars for XSmall)

Did the thieves only steal large sizes, or did Istock take back the full sales price instead of "just" our 15% royalty?

And one funny thing :  he/she stole one image twice   ;D

This is disturbing. After their first money grab I thought - who on earth would go buy images if they have access to huge credit on stolen card(s)?
Ok let's consider scenario when the thiefs make CDs with stolen content and then try to sell them. This is bad enough - Istock just plain failed to protect our intellectual property, which is supposedly now available on some pirate sites; we might as well upload our images to Flickr. Taking 85% cut and not even be able to protect images? - this unprofessional in the least, and at the most plain criminal.
But then - if someone's making CDs, why do they buy different sizes of images???
And why buy the same images twice? Plus the scale of it - who'd have access to such credit? it's not just one or two cards (as it happens with DT or other agencies) - it's hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Them not saying anything at all on this issue makes me think the issue is internal, not external. Pissed off or fraudulent employee who had access to the right data. If it was a hacker why not say so? Security loopholes get exposed and fixed on the internet all the time. But I bet it's something nastier.
Any blogs out there on this matter? All of us should write about this - let everyone know what's going on with Istock. I think it's the only real power we have.

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