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Adobe Stock / Re: Keyword management tips?
« on: August 17, 2017, 17:52 »
@steheap
Thanks for mentioning https://www.keyword.io/tool/stock-photo-research, please note that the order is based on the likelihood of keywords being relevant for your query, not the sales!

In consequence, the top keywords are most likely the most generic ones, so you might want to double-check before pasting them :)

Nice looking site. How is it I can type in a keyword and get blank, no match, no similar, no nothing? Where do the words available come from? I mean are they harvested from sales or do you have to seed them, before the software finds the rest? Anyway, lovely design, the matching words and ability to copy is a nice treat.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock daily stats! where??
« on: August 17, 2017, 17:44 »
Thanks for your help I will try that. cheers!

Note, I wrote the same thing yesterday and got a snarky remark about being four days late and called a *? Wow!

Here's something useful. It shows your sales and files and sorts things very nicely. There are times when the site is slow and you must reload, it's very popular. But someone made a site that does what IS should have done for us.

https://www.todayis20.com/

Well I was in a bit of a bad mood! anyway thanks for your help I appreciate it! ...frankly I dont know why IS makes it so difficult or rather this esp crap?

I think we can agree there and this one too.

a) They don't care  b) They are incompetent c) they don't like to make it too obvious how much they are creaming off or a combination of all the above.

Getty was in a big hurry to get things moved to their servers. Been said before, this is accounting and files, that's why the formats changed, to match Getty. ESP was activated while it was barely functional, with promises. We get a little nibble every month and more promises.

Consolidation of service, cut expenses, cut employees. Remember most of the contract mods on the forum got the axe. If people in the company end got the axe, I missed it, but I bet the last of the Canadian people got moved out. Transfer or told to go find another job.

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Does anyone know which is best for getting paid into a gbp bank account, payoneer or paypal? I can't seem to track down exactly how much they take on top of market exchange rates  and a lot of the fees for payoneer seem to relate to a credit card that I am not interested in.
I just want to know which is cheaper for getting my ss payments.

Payoneer charges $1 for bank transfers, Paypal doesn't ... and Paypal has a debit card ... Payoneer Doesn't
Edit:I wasn't aware that they had a card ... still, they charge a buck for transfers ... :(

I believe the big issue, which doesn't effect most of us, is the people in countries where PP doesn't operate. Nice that SS can adjust and add this option for those people. I won't change, I'm happy, but some were getting big exchange fees and expenses, just to get their hard earned money. Some had no way to get paid except checks or other slow costly methods.

The PP API works fine on my websites also the code for instant purchases for goods also works just fine, it's free. I don't mind paying a small fee which is the same as Credit Card processing, to get people to order on my website. I get paid, they get the goods, we're all happy.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock daily stats! where??
« on: August 17, 2017, 09:48 »
Thanks for your help I will try that. cheers!

Note, I wrote the same thing yesterday and got a snarky remark about being four days late and called a *? Wow!

Here's something useful. It shows your sales and files and sorts things very nicely. There are times when the site is slow and you must reload, it's very popular. But someone made a site that does what IS should have done for us.

https://www.todayis20.com/

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Are new images selling?
« on: August 17, 2017, 09:46 »
The upload age doesn't matter as much as what is the image! New and old sell if buyers want them. I have new that sell the first week and old that sell over and over for years. I also have flops that have never sold in years and some that are new that will probably never sell. It's not the age that matters, it's the what is it.

Not necessary. The same image on different sites with the same keywords have a different behaviour.

Also buyers on different sites are different. I have photos that have never sold on SS in years, that have 25 downloads on FT in under a year. But true same keywords on different sites, have different results, we have no control.

As for any agency pushing lower earning contributors to the front, there's has never been one letter of proof or speck of evidence that this is true. Just people on the forum making up a conspiracy that could be true.No Proof ever! And I have a friend who says so, or why do so many people say so, isn't proof. It's just believing that something that's possible is true, because we are looking for answers where their are none evident or available, except rumors, suspicion and conjecture.

For those here who repeat the conspiracy and make up financial reasons, show me proof, not inventions or personal theories.

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I don't care. I'm not a stockholder, I don't make monograms with initials, which is all these are. I don't run the agency and what this guy does or what SS accepts of this sort, has no effect on my images or sales? Same with the marijuana guy. Buyers looking for what I shoot will never see either of these two, or any of the other who have one image done 1,000 ways. I must add, just because someone has a collection of this junk, doesn't mean they make any sales from it.  :)
What does puzzle me though is why? I cant imagine its profitable but then why would they do it?

SS or the contributor? If the contributor, they get one sale and imagine great wealth by putting up 1000 of the same thing. Like same eye with a different flag hundreds of them or construction workers same shot over 300 different backgrounds. The monograms are something else, he would have to have, every letter of the alphabet in every combination, so what's that? 676 of two letters? Then find a different shap and start all over again.

Why SS does it? I'm to the point that they are just growing to the biggest and have no cares about the best or quality any longer.

But when you see people still shooting tomatoes isolated on white, don't you wonder the same? I can't imagine it's profitable, why do it?  :D
Certainly agree SS do it because they still boast about the number of images in their reports....like a supermarket boasting they have 99 variations of baked beans .....though supermarkets grew out of this a while back and most mature industries look to minimise their inventory. After doing those 676 and getting no profit you'd think he/she might review the approach rather than do it all over again...

No doubt you are right on both counts. This one slid past so fast, I missed it.  151,585,188 royalty-free stock images / 1,171,926 new stock images added this week. Not that 151 million is much different than 150 million. Now adding more images a week than what they had total in the first years?

Contributors are chasing their tails most of the time, or looking for the magic answer. I just sold a shot of dog poo, so I'll go search for 100 more piles to photograph, it must be how to make money.

Others just go look for most popular and copy that. Heck, it's been done, it's covered and new files will usually be buried unless they are exceptional and better than what's being copied. FT doesn't take many of them anymore, rejected as similar. So the guy with the marijuana, has a niche, we don't know if he makes money or not, or just samples the props and makes another 1,000 stock shots.  :)

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Off Topic / Re: lol. Facebook callout.
« on: August 17, 2017, 09:16 »
Facebook will only remove images for the copyright holder, they won't even look at whether things appear to be stolen, no matter how blatant it is.

FAA is another place that doesn't care about infringing or stolen images.

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Off Topic / Re: Bored Panda (I like this site)
« on: August 17, 2017, 09:13 »
Thanks, interesting works.

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Diamond D's brothel began construction on an expansion of their building to increase their ever-growing business.

In response, the local Baptist Church started a campaign to block the business from expanding -- with morning, afternoon, and evening prayer sessions at their church.

Work on Diamond D's progressed right up until the week before the grand re-opening when lightning struck the whorehouse and burned it to the ground!

After the brothel burned to the ground by the lightning strike, the church folks were rather smug in their outlook, bragging about "the power of prayer."

But late last week 'Big Jugs' Jill Diamond, the owner/madam, sued the church, the preacher and the entire congregation on the grounds that the church ..."was ultimately responsible for the demise of her building and her business -- either through direct or indirect divine actions or means."

In its reply to the court, the church vehemently and vociferously denied any and all responsibility or any connection to the building's demise.

The crusty old judge read through the plaintiff's complaint and the defendant's reply, and at the opening hearing he commented, "I don't know how . I'm going to decide this case, but it appears from the paperwork, that we now have a whorehouse owner who staunchly believes in the power of prayer....and an entire church congregation that thinks it's all Bull

What an interesting turn of events in Pahrump, Nevada...

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock daily stats! where??
« on: August 16, 2017, 10:42 »
rather childish actually, all I look at is the monthly sales-reports. I was asking if the ESP is showing any stats? apart from the stupid spinning wheel!  whats this the 15 year old brigade replying?

btw dont bother answering unless you can find something useful to say.

And some people say, stupid question, stupid answers? You missed the switch, over 8 months ago, but you're here every reading day?

Here's something useful. It shows your sales and files and sorts things very nicely. There are times when the site is slow and you must reload, it's very popular. But someone made a site that does what IS should have done for us.

https://www.todayis20.com/

and youre here four days too late forum-guru!!  go do some photography your port needs it badly! and in that case stop sending me PM's telling how bad everything is and others here! or maybe youve forgotten hey?  bye, bye. Twatt!!!
 ::)

Never sent you any PM Chris?

Sorry mate I must have immagined it!  silly me! hehe. never mind no hard feelings!

Same here, have a nice evening.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock daily stats! where??
« on: August 16, 2017, 09:30 »
rather childish actually, all I look at is the monthly sales-reports. I was asking if the ESP is showing any stats? apart from the stupid spinning wheel!  whats this the 15 year old brigade replying?

btw dont bother answering unless you can find something useful to say.

And some people say, stupid question, stupid answers? You missed the switch, over 8 months ago, but you're here every reading day?

Here's something useful. It shows your sales and files and sorts things very nicely. There are times when the site is slow and you must reload, it's very popular. But someone made a site that does what IS should have done for us.

https://www.todayis20.com/

and youre here four days too late forum-guru!!  go do some photography your port needs it badly! and in that case stop sending me PM's telling how bad everything is and others here! or maybe youve forgotten hey?  bye, bye. Twatt!!!
 ::)

Never sent you any PM Chris?

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DepositPhotos / Re: Big Day on Deposit Photos
« on: August 16, 2017, 09:28 »
I put a number of photos on Deposit Photos a couple of years ago and have been making about $20-$30 a month since.  I haven't uploaded anything there in a couple of years. 

However, last month I had one day where I made $61 all from on demand sales.  Great, but I figured it was a one off thing, I just checked my numbers for July and in July I had one day with $125 in on demand sales.   Apart from these two days, every day in June and July has been a buck or two as normal.  Anyone know what is happening to get me these big days, and if there is anything I can do to get more of them?

With 30 photos for $29 why would anyone use On Demand at all? Hope it's real.

Has anyone here ever had the free photo of the week on DP? Do they pay for a huge number of subs, since we aren't free? That could be nice.

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"their product"? You mean our product

Right thinking. Also the problem is that as soon as they take down one site or plug one loophole, the crooks are finding and using another. Just makes me wonder how many of the little sites are Swiss cheese and that's where most of the stolen images come from on the free sites? I won't upload to anything but major top four sites anymore. We already found DP selling out the back door on another site they owned.

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Hi there- I've noticed that Adobe Stock requires the top keywords to be ranked or at least put at the top of the list. I guess this helps them assign weights to each keywords to improve the search relevancy. 

Do you know if Shutterstock assigns weights to keywords ? It does not seem to be a requirement to upload. But maybe they generate that ranking in order to determine which weights to give to keywords.

Is it in my interest to rank the keywords when submitting to Shutterstock ?

Thanks a lot

Not that we know of, but SS has reordered my keywords after upload. They don't say that word order makes a difference like some sites do. Best advise is always put the best and main words first, for all sites.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock daily stats! where??
« on: August 16, 2017, 08:53 »
rather childish actually, all I look at is the monthly sales-reports. I was asking if the ESP is showing any stats? apart from the stupid spinning wheel!  whats this the 15 year old brigade replying?

btw dont bother answering unless you can find something useful to say.

And some people say, stupid question, stupid answers? You missed the switch, over 8 months ago, but you're here every reading day?

Here's something useful. It shows your sales and files and sorts things very nicely. There are times when the site is slow and you must reload, it's very popular. But someone made a site that does what IS should have done for us.

https://www.todayis20.com/

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I don't care. I'm not a stockholder, I don't make monograms with initials, which is all these are. I don't run the agency and what this guy does or what SS accepts of this sort, has no effect on my images or sales? Same with the marijuana guy. Buyers looking for what I shoot will never see either of these two, or any of the other who have one image done 1,000 ways. I must add, just because someone has a collection of this junk, doesn't mean they make any sales from it.  :)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Black and white Images
« on: August 16, 2017, 08:30 »
I have a number of photos of fruit bats hanging from trees which have severe chromatic aberration. It's so prominent that you don't even need to zoom in to see the colour fringing. They weren't shot with a cheapie lens (though it was a zoom and the subjects were against a bright background.) I couldn't get rid of the colour fringing in Lightroom, only reduce it a little. With the amount of CA that these images have, I doubt many stock agencies would accept them. Though I was thinking of converting them to B & W and trying my luck.

Good thought for shots or subjects that would lend themselves to this kind of grayscale version. I know the old line, rejected, now it's one of my best sellers, but I had one that was color and rejected. A year later I thought of converting and working with it, made into B&W and it is one of my top ten photos. I can see 99 other images of mine that as B&W would probably do nothing.

I think Mat's suggestion is a good one. Let the buyers decide. But I'd also say if a photo has CA or other color flaws, like you point out, but is sharp and good contrast, it can work as B&W. There's never one answer to any of this. In fact bright colorful images sell best! It's more about each image, instead of, make things B&W and more get sales. There's nothing more magic in Micro than thinking and giving each subject or photo the treatment that suits it best.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: "Filters" button at SS
« on: August 13, 2017, 21:03 »
Im set to popular always and what I see is NOT!! my Most Popular and never has been. i gave up asking them why.

Define what SS is calling popular? What does popular mean according to their search? I'd like to know what it's supposed to be.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Have you received July SS payout yet?
« on: August 13, 2017, 21:01 »

Thanks for the ones that took the poll so far.  Looks lik only a couple of us still waiting.  Wonder what's up? 

Rinder, I would respond to your post, but I don't really understand it or how it relates to the question.  I do know for sure I'm not the only one who relies on microstock and SS in particular to pay bills. Thanks for taking the poll if you did.

Doesn't usually relate to anything current anymore except complaining about what used to be. Most of us have moved on and into the changes that the market has caused. Sure I'd like it to be the way it was.

Living in the past is futility, clinging to what was, instead of growing with what is and will be, into the future.

Pay takes until Monday many times, when it's cycled through on a weekend. Some will get money on Monday, it's not like dropping 40,000 payments at once and crashing PayPal.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SSTK Q2 2017 poor results
« on: August 05, 2017, 09:57 »


yes, 2 scenarios possible ; one good for us, other tragic.
1) Oringer short the stock and waiting for the price to collapse then go back in to buy up everything, then declare SS private
2) Getty also short the stock and wait also for the price to collapse then become the main shareholder and we are all dead ducks ...
as money will not make us happy, because it 's money Getty intends to keep for themselves.

scenario on is unlikely, as Oringer already makes enough money , he does not need to own SS anymore as if already mention, micro is dead, why would he bother to keep ss???


Oringer appears to be buying shares in Shutterstock

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/sstk/ownership-summary


Did he buy those or did he get those awarded? Not the same thing. He is paid $1 a year but has stock options and rewards for company performance.

Why does Warren Buffet keep running his company and investing? He's a billionaire? Just like the others on that list, they like what they do, it's not for more money, they have all that a small country could need to survive.

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Funny how people don't think when they have high sales that SS is manipulating the system....thats down to their brilliant photography of course ;-)


This is also known as the 'Headwinds Paradox', interesting paper on the subject:

http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2016-56495-001

Synopsis:

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Barriers and hindrances command attention because they have to be overcome; benefits and resources can often be simply enjoyed and largely ignored. As a result of this headwind/tailwind asymmetry, Democrats and Republicans both claim that the electoral map works against them (Study 1), football fans take disproportionate note of the challenging games on their teams schedules (Study 2), people tend to believe that their parents have been harder on them than their siblings are willing to grant (Study 3), and academics think that they have a harder time with journal reviewers, grant panels, and tenure committees than members of other subdisciplines (Study 7). We show that these effects are the result of the enhanced availability of peoples challenges and difficulties (Studies 4 and 5) and are not simply the result of self-serving attribution management (Studies 6 and 7). We also show that the greater salience of a persons headwinds can lead people to believe they have been treated unfairly and, as a consequence, more inclined to endorse morally questionable behavior



Now there's some meat for thought. Mom always liked you best, SS favors everyone else in the search, except me.  ;D

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"The chance of Red or Black is 16 in 38 every spin". eh? I believe most roulette wheels are 0-36 so in fact the chance of red is 18/37 black 18/37 zero 1/37 which adds up to 1 which all probabilities do. Therefore the chance of four blacks in a row is 18/37*18/37*18/37*18/37 in the same way as the chance of say red/black/red/black or any other sequence. Correct the balls have no memory so if for example red has come up 14 times it is no more or less likely that it will come up a 15th time things that have occurred in the past have a probability of 1. However a run of 15 reds remains unlikely (but statistically it will happen at some point) ;-). It wouldn't matter if you changed colour Martingale just says double your stake and sooner or later it will come good which is true but you could be bankrupt before it happens.

While I don't think SS is dying I don't think its being run as well as in the past and is overpriced on the stock market. As a business there's plenty worse out there but I would rather put my money on red than buy SS shares at the moment ;-). But they remain my safest bet for selling images.

assuming you are in Europe, and you are, the wheels has 37 slots. 18 red, 18 black and one green. 18 in 37 you are correct. The point is, what happened on one wheel in one location in one spin is not going to change the probability for the next spin. It's hard for humans who are superstitious to believe or understand. Probability is the same each spin, as an individual event. It's always 1 in 37 or 18 in 37 or anything you play. In fact every bet on the roulette wheel is the same. There's no advantage to playing any number or combinations of numbers. Perfect game.

The possibility, a different word make a note, that Red will come up 15 times in a row, is unlikely. I've seen it happen. This does not change Probability of the next spin, in any way. That's why casinos make good money. People think they can predict what the cards or dice will do, based on the past, when the past spins have no relevance to the current spin.

One spin doesn't effect the next, unless the game is rigged.

True I'll sell more images on SS than at the casino, and I won't bet against any streak on roulette. I do like it when I hit a steak of sales on some new image, where it hits and keeps selling. We mostly can't predict sales on the little sold or unsold images. Those are need of an individual buyer and then they go away. Regular repeat selling images, my favorites, I have some, are the bread and butter.

Oh and yes SS stock is over valued on the market.

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I averaged 10 a day in July (slow month), usually it's 12/13 a day.

So 0 in any given day is unlikely but statistically possible. Kinda reminds me of the martingale system in roulette where you put a minimum stake on black/red and double everytime you lose until reaching the table limits. The probability of the same colour showing up 4 times in a row is 5.6%.
Nope....the probability of red four times in a row is 1/16 similarly black so 2/16 (assuming no 0)   12 1/2%. In any event going from 1000 to 0 is less likely that 100 to 0. The term significant though has a particular meaning for statisticians so serves to confuse.

Don't ever go to a casino until you understand probability better. The chance of Red or Black is 16 in 38 every spin. The previous spin has no effect on the future. It can come up 14 times in a row Black and the next time, it's still slightly under 50/50, because of the two greens or one in some countries.

The house edge on a European wheel is on 2.63% and US wheel 5.26% Every spin is an individual event, nothing must come up, just because it hasn't. Of course if I ran a casino I'd be saying how right you are, red five in a row, double your bet on black "it's due".  ::)

Now back to microstock. SS isn't dying, our piece of the pie is shrinking. Everyone here has probably read by now that there are 150 Million images now. Growth of 57% last year? 1 million new added each week. A year or two ago, Stockmarketer plainly explained the math. We can't keep up with 1,000,000 new images a week, if we are making 100 a week. I Barely average 400 a month.

Sales are nearly identical for SS but we are dropping? What does that say? More people are getting less sales each, but SS is still making the same number of total sales.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SSTK Q2 2017 poor results
« on: August 03, 2017, 17:30 »
Revenue per download increased for them. It doesn't necessarily mean it increased for us. As someone pointed out earlier, pushing new contributors with lower royalties to the top of the popular search could increase their RPD because they keep more of the moolah.

Could, but there's no proof or evidence that they do. They could have purple cows that give green milk. Show Me?

I liked your other idea better. Competition up 57% will hurt sales.  :)

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Got a mail from Shutterstock. Shutterstock prompts me to reset the password? Could it be a phishing mail?

From what email address has been sent the email?
Did you see all headers?

No, I can't. I am led to this link. What do you all mean? I think, it's suspicious! And I have NOT forgotten my password!  https://behindtheshutter.com/my-account/lost-password/

Never follow a link in an email. If it's at all possible that it's really from SS, go to the known site. NEVER follow a link in an email, not for banks, CCs, agencies or anyone. Also if you believe them, going to  the Shutterstock site and changing your password, harms nothing.

Looks like it's not SS at all
Registrant Contact
Name:
Salvatore Cincotta
Street:
Salvatore Cincotta Photography
108 Callaway Court
City:
Ofallon
State:
Illinois
Postal Code:
62269

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