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Shutterstock.com / Re: How are your footage sales at SS
« on: February 08, 2015, 03:52 »
Are you submitting to Pond5 as well? IMO your clips, in general, should do well. My experience has been to avoid under-valuing the clips thinking cheaper attracts more sales. Buyers with P5 associate price with quality - that's been my experience.

Nowadays due to ongoing Public Domain free giveaway project buyers can hardly find anything on Pond5, regardless of pricing.

One of the footage veteran SevArt says:
SevArt 30 Jan 2015 12:35
"The result with blank search box my first clip (sold 76 times) is in the 1587th place.
What can I add more? after I sold thousands of clips on P5.
What is the result of P5 changes?
For the first time EVER (in years), SS take the 1st place in number of sales per month THIS MONTH!!! with only 28% clips compared with P5.
I never believed but this month happened."

More on the issue here:
https://www.pond5.com/community?forum=629&thread=39986639&lp=1


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General Stock Discussion / Re: Free is the new black
« on: February 08, 2015, 03:37 »
Deleted!


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General Stock Discussion / Re: Free is the new black
« on: February 07, 2015, 21:06 »
Notice Canva is off the list now. Good was done in the end by this post... :)

oh la laaa....good to know that naming and shaming actually works here.  :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock sales is sinking deeply...
« on: February 07, 2015, 13:54 »
I've said it before, Tyler has the power to turn this forum into a successful stock agency. We've got the sellers who are tired of being ripped off and we got enough buyers reading this forum. MSG is well known out there. There are enough skilled designers and programmers here to get started. Just imagine if this forum turned into a stock agency one day, the potential it could have, agencies would freak out and maybe that is exactly why this will never happen. I would like to know what Tyler thinks of this idea though, then again maybe he gets enough return from this forum and his portfolio and doesn't care.
Deep down we all know we are being ripped off but since the money is still good we let them abuse us a little longer, which seems to last forever ;)

+10
So true, cos ppl and all the contacts are on MSG already.


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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock sales is sinking deeply...
« on: February 06, 2015, 16:04 »

I see that we are becoming more and more people that we complain about the current situation, regardless of the quality or size of our portfolio.
I do not know how this thinks can help us, may be just to see that we are quite many who suffer from the same problems. My guess is this cries will not help us, but even to become increasingly more upset and frustrated.
Why do not try to come up with solutions / ideas, regardless of their nature? I find that we will have much more to gain!

hi Sebalos...this is a good point, and sometime ago i've said the same :)

but in this forum complaining and pessimism is the only welcome thing...in addition one "self proclaimed top photographer" answered (to an intelligent post like your) that he was not going to share his super good revolutionary ideas with his competitors (aka us)  ;D

so don't expect any good answer because the forum is just a whining wall....

Thanks mojaric!
Sad but I get the point ...

What to do?

So we all stop uploading pix, hire developers to make our new platform, all become shareholders. When website ready we withdraw from all other agencies and only upload to ours.
Who is in?  :)

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wait...isn't this the same as ImageBrief?
http://www.imagebrief.com/

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Pixta setting a good example
« on: February 06, 2015, 14:59 »
I am not on pixta. But if they are just offering a special and keeping your rates the same. Whooooorahhhhh.

Apparently yes....Whooooorahhhhh!!!!  :)

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Off Topic / Re: How to waste money on promoting free content
« on: February 06, 2015, 14:51 »

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Free is the new black
« on: February 06, 2015, 06:12 »
Is this thread a special resource for the convenience of people who don't want to pay for our pictures?

we better be aware of this trend...but yes, happy to delete it if you guys think this is counterproductive.

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Pond5 / Re: Pond5: What should we improve?
« on: February 02, 2015, 06:01 »
I can't even believe that this thread got revived ...

Mostly right now I feel like Pond 5 needs customers ... I visit daily and have a couple sales there but, I feel like they've ramped up on trying to sell footage (for very little as people have noted)

Also, as others have said, that upload process is a bitch ... Honestly, the only reason I keep many of the middle-lower tier sites is that if I'm already uploading I might as well upload everywhere since my internet will be tied up for a minute ... but, when the process becomes a good 2-3 minute questionnaire for every image? It's quite a bit less worth it. ....

and it's none of your * business what software I use Pond 5, the notion seems fun but, * off ...

And I feel like they need a brand new management!!!


They are slowly diving into Low Earners Tier.


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Pond5 / Re: Pond5 launches The Public Domain Project
« on: February 01, 2015, 18:09 »
Sorry if I'm being obtuse, but it's hard for me to see how yet more free images, more readily available, will increase sales in the long run.   In the short run it may bring business to Pond5 at the expense of other agencies. Once they're all forced to offer PD imagery, any "purchase" of a PD image arguably comes at the expense of a real sale. 

Of course eventually the agencies may find legal ways to profit from PD images - say, by making it part of a subscription package.   I look forward to the exciting news.

This is all a PR stunt in attempt to increase web site traffic. And probably it did increase it and possibly sales jumped a bit for very short time (yet to see that though!).
BUT the question is how many more PR stunts like this they have to organize to be able to constantly keep traffic up and therefore potentially increase sales? And how risky this approach is?  :o

I only wish they invested in promoting our media files as much as they did promote this free offer gig. It's kind of a bad taste to brag so much about public domain free stuff, as our files don't exist!  >:(

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Pond5 / Re: Pond5 launches The Public Domain Project
« on: January 31, 2015, 16:53 »
How about the "our contributor console doesn't strip out capital letters" project? How's that coming along?


O. M. G.

They fixed it.


OMG can somebody inform Sean about it?...It took him almost 2 years of begging to get this fixed.
Oh well... then party time totally makes sense!  8)  :o  ::) - http://www.microstockgroup.com/off-topic/how-to-waste-money-on-promoting-free-content/msg406671/?topicseen#new

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Just got an invite to this... >:(

Hello! 

This is just a quick reminder to join the Pond5 Team tomorrow night as we celebrate the launch of our Public Domain project with a Pond5 Industrial RE:volution Party at the Westin Mitchell Warehouse (737 Kohler St., LA, 90021) at 7pm, featuring music by Deap Vally.

If you'd like to attend, please reply to this email and dress to impress!

Thanks

The Pond5 Team

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Elenathewise, congrats!
Any news/update from Joshua's case?

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Pond5 / Re: Video - Pricing at Pond5
« on: January 31, 2015, 01:50 »
No point pricing when nobody can actually find your clips.

 :o
Taken from Pond5 forum:
Wideweb: "This does not make sense at all. Public Domain clips with 0 sales infiltrate the lines of clips with tens or hundreds of sales.
Search for something, sort by sales. You will see that more than 20% of the search result at the top of the page is PD with 0 sales.
For example, search with blank search box, you will see PD clip with 0 sales between two files with 283 and 275 sales.
What's the point?"

http://www.pond5.com/community?forum=629&thread=39986639&lp=1

 :-X

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia Joins Adobe
« on: January 28, 2015, 16:46 »
Fotolia under Adobe will rock... remember my words folks!  8)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock sales is sinking deeply...
« on: January 28, 2015, 03:35 »
"Soon Shutterstock will only have artists from poorer countries, as the rest of us can't live on the income we receive, and will be forced to use our talents elsewhere."

+1000

they have been Farming those countries for a few years.


Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.


I live in Canada, but was born in one of those "poorer countries". One of the cultural shocks I had to overcome is how much housing actually costs here. Food and clothing or even a car compared to your rent or mortgage is nothing. Most of your income is spent on having a roof above your head. So, count yourself lucky still - you don't have to work your behind off just to avoid sleeping under the bridge.


My comment was only intended to illustrate the fact that in some parts of the world, $1000 for example, is a substantial monthly income, whereas in other places, it won't even cover the rent.

+10

Average Monthly Disposable Salary (After Tax)
London 3,225.03 $   Buenos Aires 1,264.91 $
   
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=Argentina&city2=Buenos+Aires&displayCurrency=USD

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock sales is sinking deeply...
« on: January 28, 2015, 03:28 »
Poorer countries? I am from the Balkans and I can tell you that food/clothing prices are the same or higher than in the US. Yes, we have a crap but cheap healthcare system and housing/renting is much cheaper but the prices of the main commodities are getting more and more similar across the globe. The main difference is in wages.



Go to New York, take a beer, cigarettes, go to restaurant and then after maybe go to disco.
Than come back here and look your post


+10

You would need around 15,510.52kn (2,286.81$) in Zagreb (Croatia) to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 6,800.00$ in New York, NY (assuming you rent in both cities).

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Croatia&city1=New+York%2C+NY&city2=Zagreb

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Pond5 / Re: Pond5 launches The Public Domain Project
« on: January 25, 2015, 16:31 »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries%27_copyright_lengths

Very interesting... regarding Public domain

I do lot of PD but I upload  ONLY after lots of documentation and ONLY when I'm 100% that the work is in Public Domain. Most times it's a very tricky job  ;)


Exactly that!

P5 Content License Agreement - http://www.pond5.com/legal/license

8. Public Domain Content.
A work designated on the Website or otherwise by us as being "Public Domain Content" or otherwise as being in the public domain (collectively, "Public Domain Content") is designated as such when we believe that the works is considered under copyright laws of the United States to be in the public domain. However, such work may not be considered to be in the public domain in other counties and notwithstanding the foregoing or anything else in this Agreement, we assume no responsibility whatsoever, and you are solely responsible, for reviewing the Content Information and if necessary confirming that the Public Domain Content is in fact in the public domain in the United States and every other country where it or Works For Distribution including it will be used, copied, distributed, transmitted, broadcast, telecast, displayed or performed or derivative works created based thereon and obtaining any rights that are legally required with regard thereto.
Notwithstanding anything else in this agreement, the restrictions in Sections 4 (c), (e), (f) and (h) and 7 and the warranties in Section 9 (a) and (b) and 10 do not apply to Public Domain Content.
Generally, no releases have been obtained for any Third Party IP or musical, dramatic, choreographic or literary work depicted, performed or contained in Public Domain Content, so to the extent that any Public Domain Content depicts or contains any of the same, it should be considered to be Editorial Content.


If I am correct P5 does not offer the "Limits of Liability". With SS that's US$10,000.00.

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