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« on: March 17, 2009, 20:00 »
They had a thread on iStock and I replied them technically. Basically, it's a glorified FTP uploader from one point, they need your passwords, and of course you have to pay. I'm fine with Filezilla.
627
« on: March 17, 2009, 19:55 »
SS threads are crazy. Some posters there have 3-4000 posts. I wonder when they make pictures.
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« on: March 17, 2009, 19:51 »
Any theories? New big, EL-only buyer subscribed? Buyer doing a big project? Hmm.... I had an EL on March 11, a detail of a nose wheel of a commercial airliner. I never expected the shot (a) to be accepted and (b) to sell, let alone an EL. What was the nature of your EL?
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« on: March 17, 2009, 19:32 »
I submit to at least 50 sites. File sizes total a few petabytes. I bought a brand new black Hasselblad. I gave it away, it was just a fad... Ever considered to be ghostwriter for Eminem? ;-)
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« on: March 17, 2009, 10:05 »
LE: You only get to upload 10 photos for free. For more, you must pay. Not interested. No, it's 100 pictures for free, you can set your own prices, and they don't charge a commission on sales, except PayPal.
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« on: March 17, 2009, 04:36 »
Did they ever announce anything...  Fotolia always makes me think of the final line of Cool Hand Luke (Paul Newman): "What we've got here is a failure to communicate."
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« on: March 17, 2009, 04:12 »
I think it's my fault. I clicked on "Best Collection" button. Now I'm getting about 5 boxes in the frontpage saying "Sorry, there was a problem for the server. I could access it after a very long wait for about 10 minutes. Now it's back on http://colourbox.com/Error. What I saw on the home page is amazing marketing. 50 euro for one image, 250 euro for 10 images, and... 150 euro for unlimited download for a month. That's far below the subscription price of SS, while SS puts a limit of 25/day on its package. For a sum of 150 euro (or 3 regular photos), anybody could leech the site dry in a month. With unlimited download, there is also no way they can project a guaranteed income per photo for anybody. The same flawed approach as Vivozoom. Next!
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« on: March 17, 2009, 03:34 »
A client of mine subscribe to a stocksite called Colourbox. (www.colourbox.com) I've never heard about it before and haven't seen anything about it in this forum either. Considering you are a new member and this is your very first post, would it be too bold to assume that you are connected with this Danish site?  It is out now by the way. Even Cubestat.com can't connect. Traceroute takes ages. Is it on a garage server or on a mainstream hoster?
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« on: March 16, 2009, 19:19 »
I'm really satisfied and I'm happy that I found this wonderful piece of software. In downloaded/installed it, but I can't find any support for IPTC metadata, let alone batch treatment of selected IPTC fields like Irfanview.
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« on: March 16, 2009, 18:35 »
Looking for some advice on new software. Bridge has constantly crashed since I upgraded to CS3, and I need to find a replacement. I like the RAW editor in CS3 and am happy with Photoshop, but Bridge has become unusable. Before jumping to conclusions, you can try CS4. The full functioning version works for 30 days. The RAW is much better than CS2 and even CS3. You might just check if your bugs are still there. Ranking and slideshows are already standard in the Vista File manager.
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« on: March 16, 2009, 12:52 »
I left BigStock because I wasn't satisfied of how my portfolio relevence was showing. Do you kill your dog when it has lice?
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« on: March 16, 2009, 10:56 »
I've been reading about SS and IS but want to build the portfolio and work my way up to that level. Is 123 a good stepping stone? 123RF is one of those nice quiet low-maintenance sites with no catgeories, easy upload, no drama, and the fastest and best MRF attach module around. Some months they are almost the same as DT, some months just 1/5th of DT. Their FTP upload is flawless, the import fast. They automatically pay out by PayPal whenever you reach 50$. You can give a fraction of your port a boost in the search engine by adding them to your favorites. 123RF is a go by all means, since upload virtually doesn't take time, and it's just an extra tab in the Filezilla site manager.
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« on: March 16, 2009, 10:31 »
Maybe the lapse in uploading is the reason for my BS lack of activity? The search engine of BigStock isn't the best around, or they over-emphasize view count. The result is that in general images start really selling after 6 months or so. It's a quiet and friendly site that you just have to upload to and forget.
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« on: March 16, 2009, 10:26 »
- Address the search engine breakdown by new keywording standards:
a - maximum 20 keywords in order of importance; search algorithm takes this weight into account; b - 3 classes of keywords: [1] the usual one, [2] a conceptual one (maximum 5) that will replace categories, and [3] for travel/landmarks/editorial the exact location/sublocation/country (with geopos) that can be extracted from the IPTC field (YAY does this for the country).
For SS only: use the short title and not the long description as image title.
- Model Release key embedded in the metadata (Adobe is working on an extended IPTC standard that allows it).
- Abolishment of categories.
- Introduction of support for a unique PID or picture identification number like the ISBN embedded in the EXIF and generated by the cam.
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« on: March 16, 2009, 09:55 »
Your example is not spamming, many people may want a photo of a businessman wearing a suit and necktie and as such these images are correctly keyworded. Using the word 'NOT' also works on many search engines for example 'businessman NOT necktie'. This has a rather funny consequence that one can spam by not adding a keyword.  Imagine I put an image of a businessman in suit and necktie online in a conversation with his secretary. I obviously will need most of my 50 (maximum) keywords to emphasize the teamwork and interaction concept and a necktie seems just an obvious attribute of a corporate businessman, so I don't mention it, as I won't enumerate all that is visible in the shot. Looking for "businessman NOT necktie" will produce my image of a businessman with necktie then.
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« on: March 15, 2009, 13:54 »
Finally, I could see the "peopless" searches being handy. I'm currently using "nobody" for person-less shots, "person, one" and "person, two" for 1-2 people, and "people" only for crowds or more than two persons. I think that iStock introduced that convention.
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« on: March 15, 2009, 01:57 »
Flemish, I can understand your point, and your very correct, but I think that when you have the time to visually go shopping, is fine to get out of your shopping list and buy something that was not your intention to buy in the first place (just because it caught your eye) I've done it a million times myself, but when you're on a deadline for a project, I find nothing more frustrating and aggravating that having to go thru 5+ pages of unrelated products (pictures) before you can actually get to what you're looking for... It's equally aggravating for a contributor to see his images burried under piles of irrelevant ones, but I'm not so sure that all those are blatant keyword spammers. The blatant ones are obvious (they even add irrelevant keywords after the picture comes online, avoiding any reviewer scrutiny), but there is a large gray area of conceptual and related keywords that spoil the searches. How strict should one be in keywording? Is it spam for instance when you add "meteorology" to a sunset with a very flamboyant cloudscape? The simple reason for search engines fooling up is that all tags are valued with the same weight in a search. In databases of over 5M images, that's heading for disaster by design. The vast majority of contributors are honest keyworders but they might have different degrees of relaxedness about conceptual and related keywords. A fundamental solution would be only to allow like 10-15 keywords, or to have a limited class of essential keywords and an additional class. As it is now, it's just too easy to blame contributors for spamming when the sites (except iStock) don't make any effort to differentiate between keywords as to relevancy.
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« on: March 15, 2009, 01:40 »
It's fun to look at Dreamstime on the wayback machine. In 2001. Distributing your Dream CD with images. Somewhere in 2003 they disappeared to resurface in july 2003 anouncing a brand new concept. The logo was still a film roll. Dreamstime will re-open soon along with a brand new concept. Photographers and designers using film or digital equipment will be enabled to sell their portfolio of images online. Our new concept is based on creating a powerful photo community, providing royalty free images and royalty free stock imagery or photos to DTP designers, web designers, photos for printing brochures, advertisements, magazine or newspaper ads, and electronic use on websites and Flash interactive animations. We're looking for photographers and designers! The rebranding took a long time, and Dreamstime as we know it opened on March 9, 2004 with 25 photographers listed on the front page. Around July 2004 they already had 200 photographers. Statistics October 2004: Online files: 19296 Users: 3923 Photographers: 487 Statistics end of 2004: Online files: 31388Users: 7006 Photographers: 767 On March 5, 2005, the spiral logo first appeared as a dot on the i of Dreamstime. Photoshow has 367 images online, and Andresr 601. Online files: 44656. On April 13, 2005 the homepage was much (too?) simplified for non-logged in visitors. 55,204 images online. July 1, 2005 has 81,599 images online. I joined August 3, 2005 when there were 94,091 images live. End of 2005 there were already 211,847 images online, more than 100,000 added in 4-5 months. Everybody seems to discover microstock. End of 2006 gave 861,473 images, 600,000 added in one year. That's around the time LuckyOliver and Featurepics started, not realizing the first mice got the cheese already. Milestones can be followed from now on in the DT milestones thread on Dreamstime itself. Over 10,000 images are added per week. End of 2007, 2,149,835 images online, 1,300,000 added in one year. One year ago, 4 months later (April 1, 2007), there were 2,680,851 images online. End of 2008, Tangie said: "we reached 4,500,000 images online only a year after announcing the first million". Actually, from end 2007 to end of 2008, 2,350,000 images were added. End February 2009 was the 5 million milestone, less than 2 months after the 4,5 million. Extrapolating this over 2009 would give 3,000,000 images added in one year, and 8,000,000 images online end of 2009, 10,000,000 somewhere late Q1 in 2010. My bet is that DT won't count photographers around 2020 any more in absolute numbers but in % of the world population with about 100 billion images online.
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« on: March 14, 2009, 23:18 »
FlemishD, doesn't Fotolia limit it to 7 keywords ? and going with what you said about girl.. attractive... and NUDE ! that's a favourite one. even for not so nude ones. I have some images online with mostly skin visible. They get huge view counts but no sales. That's it. They are just useless for commercial stock. Fotolia always has been said to value the first 7 keywords higher. Some posters here tested that assumption recently and they found out it isn't true. Maybe they abolished that feature in one of their remakes or it has been an urban legend all the time. Maybe Matt could tell...
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« on: March 14, 2009, 23:12 »
I'm with you hoi ha 100%, if I'm looking for a photo of a cow, that's what I spec to find in my search as a buyer.. Spam works as a detracting and flagging factor. If spam (as all blatant commercials we have to endure in daily life) didn't work, nobody would use it. On DT I observed that 50% of my images is downloaded without any relevant search terms. That means buyers rely heavily on visual search and start to browse around till some image catches their eyes as totally fit to what they need. Fitting your needs and what you want is not to objectivate in keywords totally. Seeing still is believing and you might end up (at least I did sometimes) with an image you weren't looking for in the first place. We all experience this phenomenon when setting off to a journey to a mall to look for a tripod and we came home with this totally cool PC gadget. Window shopping, getting detracted, browsing and finding something cool and neat we weren't looking for in the first place is one of the rules of shopping. It's even true in commodity shopping. Who claims going out to the food supermarket and sticking 100% to his shopping list?
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« on: March 14, 2009, 22:56 »
I can only say that as a buyer I HATE SPAM because it is a massive waste of my time and feels like cheating to me. This could all be solved easily by limiting the number of allowed keywords per image to 15 or so. In a more relaxed mode, one could add more keywords but the ones beyond 15 would just be marginally relevant in the search. I defy anybody to claim she/he needs more than 15 keywords per image. Any girl is "sexy, attractive, young, female" right? It's implicated in the term "girl". Nobody submits images of dull and unattractive "girls". I have some shots of an isolated stethoscope in the pipeline and I'm going to try an experiment with just 3 keywords, which are stethoscope, isolated, medical. Any other keyword would be "spam". I totally disagree with Keith from Zymmetrical who is OK with the use of "doctor" in an isolated stethoscope image with nobody (specifically not a doctor) on it. Blatant spam is very easy to identify but there are many cases where the thin red line becomes a large gray area. I remember having a long discussion with BigStock about my waterfalls. Searching on "waterfall", there was a series of images at the top that had an isolated champaign glass with pouring liquid in it. Obviously, the tag "waterfall" was somewhere in the meta. You could eliminate these gray cases by limiting the (relevant) keywords to the first 10 or 15.
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« on: March 14, 2009, 22:28 »
Out of sheer interest, I made a blogpost a few years ago about search strategies, keywords and number of images. That was the time that DT had about one million images online. It's a bit of math and I won't repeat it here but if you make a few assumptions like a set of M equivalued keywords per image and a search based on one or two keywords, the strategy will break down from N = 3 million images on. That means you'll get many hundreds or more of search results. The spam is obviously a disturbing factor but the sheer number of images is the real reason for this breakdown. Now, in 2009, we already have over 5 million images on the top sites...
To tackle this problem there are basically three solutions. One is limit the set of keywords per image, an approach CanStockPhoto tried a year ago and which raised a lot of protest from contributors. The second one is a controlled vocabulary like done by iStock. Same remark. The third solution is less drastic and consists in ranking keywords for relevance, and putting more weight in searches to the first keywords. Fotolia was supposed to do it. The problem is that most sites don't preserve ranking and rerank the keywords alphabetically. Nevertheless, this is one of the right approaches to make searches more relevant.
As for now, relevancy is done by some black magic. Some sites (DT, BigStock) use the repeat of keywords in title and/or description as a boost for relevance. Also the view and sales count enters into the equation, but that is irrelevant since it accumulates by age and for a buyer, the most relevant picture might be amongst the newest. SS makes newness a relevancy criterion but that has the disadvantage that older pictures (which might in fact be more relevant for a particular buyer) get burried. Also, popularity in se is a very bad criterion for being fit for the purpose of a particular buyer.
As for the stethoscope example, I was very amazed that Zymm would allow for the keyword 'doctor' in an image of an isolated stethoscope. This strategy is sortof OK for a database with a few hundred of thousand images but not for a few millions.
Most microstock sites grew out of amateur photo sharing sites and the key - search engine - is treated rather amateurish. The buyer is the victim.
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« on: March 14, 2009, 21:09 »
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« on: March 14, 2009, 21:01 »
Photoshop, and not that well either, if you watch the bit of video where he shows the camera with different coloured backgrounds watch the bottom part of the camera grip and you'll see where the outline is jagged. With only dodging (soft brush) I never get jaggies. I only get jaggies on selections when the feather is set at 0px. You can only put an integer value there, line 0,1,.. 1px is often too soft but you can lose the jaggies easily by selecting feather 0px, then go to the menu Select > Feather and there you can fill in a fraction, like 0.6px. That loses the jaggies and the selection looks very sharp.
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« on: March 14, 2009, 20:54 »
A part of my problem is having NO studio or equipment. My products are usually laying directly on the background. Overexposure isn't really possible ... unless you have a few secrets to share?  Since I move back and forth between Asia and Europe and luggage allowance is only 20kg and unsafe (all the time things get broken in checked luggage) I'm limited to carry-on for valuables like laptop, cam, usb disk, strobes. Some airports strictly enforce the 7kg limit on carry-on so extra strobe heads are out of the question. You can isolate on non-overexposed backgrounds too as long as they are clean. It just takes much more work in the postproduction. I did some experiments outdoors with giant lightboxes (fabric is incredibly cheap in Asia) but the models can barely endure the tropical sun for more than 2 mins. Tricks I'm planning to use next April are from the strobist and putting the model in a tight plywood tunnel that is painted white all over so you get maximum reflection. Use a portable strobe with ceiling-bouncing of course. I did some experimenting last December in my shower/bathroom which is narrow, deep and totally white, and I could reach even F11.0. If you can't solve it with brute force like softboxes, you can exploit the reflection and triple the light that reaches the subject by a tight enclosure of white walls. With softboxes in studio, only the light from the frontal surface reaches the subject and the rest gets lost in the studio. You'll get a gradient this way on the background from pure white near the top to light gray near the hips, but the top is the most important for the hair and my subjects wear dark clothes like suits or jeans along the hips so that's very easy to dodge there.
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