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Shutterstock.com / Re: First Shutterstock Submission
« on: December 18, 2006, 15:51 »
i agree with you very much geopappas.

shutterstock is great at letting people say what they think...

I third that. It's a very open forum ... good on them for allowing free speech.

As for noise, I've had a few rejected for that reason, but they've always been accepted again when I treat the image to a dab of noise reduction.

And there's always going to be people who complain like stink when their photos get rejected. I'm also a writer/editor and it's the same in that area. Some people think they're a second Shakespeare and take great offence when you tell them their work may ... just possibly ... need a bit of revision.

The best writers are the ones who take honest critical comments onboard, learn from it, and come back with the goods.

702
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Image Posted on Designer Spotlight
« on: December 16, 2006, 17:01 »
Well done! That's great.   ;D

703
I've no idea where my inspiration comes from. It's a mystery.

I just keep looking and listening and ... suddenly I see an image, or get an idea for one.

If I can't take a photo then and there (like I'm travelling in a car and see an interesting sight) I jot down the information in a notebook and either go back to the place later with plenty of time to spare, or I try to set up the image back at home in my 'studio'  :) which is very basic and cobbled together.

Like the other day,  was listening to someone talking about old love letters and suddenly, out of nowhere, I got the idea for an image of a tear-stained letter.

Still working on that one   :)

704
General Stock Discussion / Re: Tear Sheets - Post your finds here
« on: December 16, 2006, 04:35 »
Sorry to disappoint you dbvirage because you are a great person, but that photo doesn't use the your photos that you point to. I ran a comparative program that says that you're photos are only a 10% match to the photo. So, there is a 90% chance that you are not the father.

Wow! DNA paternity tests on photos   :)  That's a new one on me.

705
Off Topic / Re: Favorite websites
« on: December 15, 2006, 02:49 »
My favourite site (I check it every day) is ...

http://www.spaceweather.com/

Berryspun ... your husband might like that one, too.

706
Off Topic / Re: Favorite websites
« on: December 15, 2006, 02:48 »
I like http://www.smugmug.com/

I use it for private photo sharing. Look and feel can be customized, access restricted, upload originals, no advertising ... their forum is not bad too  ;)
However, they have a yearly fee depending on account type.


It looks like a great site. Is it worth the annual fee?

707
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock troubled waters my opinion
« on: December 14, 2006, 15:51 »
Bateleur, you might not like exclusivity, but apparently some photographers like it. Its good for Istock, Istock has the most photographers who are exclusive that is an advantage regarding other agencies. However, I would not choose to be exclusive. But I would not say it is bad for everyone.
Istock has every right regarding exclusivity. It is a descision of the photographers. The photgraphers who decided to be exclusive to IS gave it to IS.
I cannot see any problem with that. And well if the "Exclusive Rabbits" get "killed" from IS, they still can have a life after that at DT, SS, StockXpert, 123RF, FP, BS, FT, SPM, CS and so on :-)
Out of curiosity, how fast can you gat out of the IS exclusivity deal as an photographer?

Yes. Obviously some photographers like it, otherwise they wouldn't have any exclusives.   :)

And I agree ... it's not bad for everyone. If you're someone who doesn't have time, inclination or ambition to sell through other agencies, exclusivity is a great deal.

But there's the rub ... if you're not like that ... if you're someone who wants to retain the freedom to do with your images what you want (even ones which are not on iStock) then iStock's exclusivity deal stands right in your way. They're saying, "either you get completely into bed with us, or you take an inferior position".

That's forcing a photographer's hand, and I don't like it. I think it's unethical.

I'd have no problems with individual images being exclusive to them ... I'd submit loads, like a shot, if that was the deal.

It's the ... No RF images ... Anywhere else ... With anyone else ... At all ... that gets up my nose.


708
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istock troubled waters my opinion
« on: December 14, 2006, 04:37 »
I have no problem with their rejection rates at all. My view is that in the end it's their business so it's their decision what they accept/reject. Like a writer can't criticize a magazine for accepting/rejecting a piece s/he wrote.

I have also learned a lot from rejections and hope I will continue to learn. I believe that my photography is better for it.

What I do have a big issue with is their terms of exclusivity. Sure ... they can ask that an image is exclusive to them. That's obviously legitimate. But what they want is the photographer to be exclusive to them. That is ... if you become exclusive with iS you must not submit RF images of any sort, anywhere else in the world. Not even if they're totally different to what you have on iS.

What right have they to impose that condition? Who do they think they are?

That's like a magazine saying to a writer "you can only submit your work to us".

Now ... let's follow this logically. If a writer writes articles exclusively for one magazine then s/he is very likely to be an journalist employee of that magazine (assuming s/he can be published elsewhere if s/he wishes) and receiving a regular salary.

Are exclusives employees of iS?

No. The majority of them are still freelancers, at the mercy of 'ebb and flow', but on top of that they've had their hands tied by an unduly restrictive condition. I'm not even sure the restriction couldn't be legally challenged in some countries.

I don't know if anyone has read the novel about rabbits called 'Watership Down'. It's a great story about two wild rabbits seeking a new home because their old warren is about to be destroyed.

At one point the two wanderers come to another rabbit warren where all the rabbits are beautifully fat and sleek, but there's a strange mystery about them. The fat, sleek rabbits won't talk about it, and there's an air of 'not asking too many questions' and 'not rocking the boat' in the warren. The rabbits there are a bit too sycophantic, a bit too 'yeah ... it's great here'.

Then the two wanderers discover the secret. The farmer feeds the rabbits in the warren in order to fatten them up. Then once a week he takes two of them and kills them for the pot. No one knows who is going to be taken next ... and no one talks about it.

For some strange reason, when I was considering iStock's exclusivity deal, that story came into my mind. I wonder why.




709
Off Topic / Re: Little souls
« on: December 09, 2006, 15:03 »

Let's be honest shall we? This forum is not only anti iStock it's increadibly anit iStock exclusive. 

I don't think this forum is 'anti iStock exclusive at all.

Each person makes their own decision as to how they're going to sell their work and that is their personal decision. No one ... but no one ... can criticise that.

What does happen is that people vent their feelings about iStock here. And the reason for that is because (it appears) if you post anything critical on the iStock forums it either gets locked or removed. So ... naturally people go elsewhere.

If you read it carefully when it was posted, that controversial thread was not negative about the photographer. It was criticising iStock and their decisions.

In any event, I believe anyone should be able to take criticism without resorting to silencing the critic with superior force or sending abusive replies. Squelching criticism (by whatever method) is one of the signs of a dictatorship.


710
Cameras / Lenses / Re: Using TIFF & Saving to JPEG
« on: December 06, 2006, 01:50 »

Basic 101 workflow rules : (seelctive) noise removal, adjustments (ALWAYS use layer adjustments for Levels etc., as they do not change the actual image,but save the adjustments in a new layer), then save as PSD.
You should also create a new layer with the sharpened version of an image...


Bit of a newbie question here ...

I understand that making adjustments in a different layer does not change the actual image. But then some agencies require that the images submitted have just one layer. So you have to combine the layers you've been working on ... and the image is changed, no?

So what's the advantage of working in layers?

711
General - Top Sites / Re: How many images
« on: December 04, 2006, 12:32 »
thanks for the update. i see shutterstock has finally pass istock.

I'm not surprised. I suspect iS are losing photographers, the way they treat them.

712
iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStockphoto Upload Limit
« on: December 04, 2006, 12:28 »
I'm a non-exclusive, and my sales have shown a steady downward trend since the big shakeup ... even though I've been disambiguating (horrible word) as fast as I can bear to (it's a total pain in the posterior).

As far as I'm concerned, IS is going on the back-burner. There's no way I'm going exclusive, given the way they treat their contributors ... the lifeblood of their operation ... and why . should I for the measly rates they pay? I actually went from a bronze to a silver canister with them a short while ago, and have only just noticed. That's how much I care.

This whole exclusive/non exclusive thing smacks of Getty, trying to control the entire stock photo market ... and the photographers.

iStock seem to attract a fawning, sycophantic crowd of photographers. Just look at their forums. They announce a cut in uploads and immediately the threads fill up with "GEE! WOW! Thank you. Thank you, iStock! These new limits are SOOOOO cool!" messages. Beurk! Excuse me while quietly vomit in a corner.

I'll continue trying to take the best photos I can and submit them exactly where I want. And if Getty/iStock doesn't want them or won't let me upload them because of some measly limits ... their loss.



713

For those with disambigous woes and limited time.

arrange your uploads by number of DLs and see if any of your best sellers haven't been DLed for a couple of months and they should be top priority to have their keywords looked at.


Or another possibility is to sort the list on the 'DLs per month' column. That will pull up what were once your most popular photos.

Discombobulate them in order, from the top.

My DL/Month image (with a flame) stopped selling mid October. It wasn't until I discombooberated it that the pic started selling again.

714

Did some more searches every first page were all exclusives ?  :(

You probably had lousy sales yesterday because it was Thanksgiving in the States.

I wonder ... maybe they've tweaked their search algorithm to favour exclusives. I mean, those photographers who've thrown their lot in completely with iStock, particularly the ones with huge portfolios, must be pretty sick about the 'disambiguation' hassle. I find it a hell of a lot of work disambiguating my portfolio of some 600 images. If I had several thousand with iStock, and was exclusive, I'd be sick as a parrot.

Maybe iStock has thrown them this perk as a sweetener.

715
123RF / Re: Their model release
« on: November 24, 2006, 12:18 »
That model release is going a bit over the top, I think. I certainly wouldn't use it.

I've already had people refuse to sign the standard iStock one, which is the one I use for most situations, because they felt it was too open. I'm sure if I used that one, which spells things out in no uncertain terms, I'd get a whole lot more refusals.

In fact, thinking about it ... if someone took a photo of me, and presented me with that MR, I'd probably refuse to sign it, too. That phrase they use is scaring.

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New Sites - General / Re: New Microstock Site - mystock.com
« on: November 23, 2006, 01:49 »
The plot thickens ...  ;D

717
General Stock Discussion / Re: Microstock Royalties?
« on: November 22, 2006, 17:27 »
agreed

I would rather get 20% and have 100 sales than get 99% and get 1 sale.

Yup. And that's what iSstock offers. High volume sales. For all I complain about their high-handed ways, I still sell more images through them than any other agency.

718
New Sites - General / Re: New Microstock Site - mystock.com
« on: November 22, 2006, 17:22 »
Nice detective work Eric.  :)

I see that the original post has now been edited to remove all the "I was contacted by the creator of mystock today  ..." baloney, which seems to confirm that this was a fake piece of news.

I'm steering clear of the site. I don't really trust someone who hides their identity in that way.

I mean ... if you've started a new stock site why not say so and be proud of it? What has the guy got to hide?

719
And for those in the UK (or even those elsewhere, but who want to try to sell in the UK) there's the 'Freelance Photographer's Market Handbook 2007'

It's a bit thinner than the US one ... but then UK is smaller   :)

Anyway, it's a great reference source for the UK image market.

720
Adobe Stock / Re: Cheques from Fotolia
« on: November 17, 2006, 02:14 »
What's the fee for PayPal? I've never noticed one.

As far as I can tell, if you're outside the States, PayPal is a lot better deal than cheques. Try to cash a cheque here, in a Swiss bank, and they take about half of it as something they call 'commission'. (No wonder the ports in the south of France are stuffed with bankers' yachts.)

721

I now sail up and down the eastern pacific coast, on my 55 ft sailboat,  south in winter, north in summer, taking pics which are starting to pay for my lifestyle.  Next year, I'm off to Mexico, down to Costa Rica, and then...??? should provide a goodly amount of shots to fill my portfolio.

Ian

Sheeeeesh! ... Lucky guy. What a great lifestyle. Congratulations on achieving it.

I spent 20 years working in Africa and amassed thousands upon thousands of colour trannies as I was a keen photographer and, for part of that time, I worked in a game park. When I got back to Europe I never knew what to do with my pictures except enter them for the occasional competition ... and look at them every now and again to get nostalgic  :'( (I miss Africa)

Then I discovered these sites, started scanning the slides and submitting.

Then I got myself a digital camera and started shooting. Wow! Digital was a revelation after film. Got seriously hooked on that and I'm so busy shooting digital and processing them for submission that the scanning of the slides is on hold.

Now I do this about half-time. The rest of the time I'm a freelance writer/editor. But I'm hoping to build up the photo sales so that I can make it full-time. I really love photography ... and sailing ... and Africa.


722
Microstock News / Re: BuyRequest RIP
« on: November 17, 2006, 01:51 »
No great loss as far as I can see.

On several occasions I went out and took photos specifically for requests and posted them. They never got chosen ... fair enough ... but the challenge was worthwhile, and it boosted my portfolio.

However, most of these the requests just seemed to fizzle out. It was never possible to see which image was chosen, so the learning aspect was limited. It would have been good to see which image did win and maybe get a better insight into what buyers are looking for.

723
My guess is Auto means they did it and probably stuffed up.  Manual means you have manually DA'ed.

I think that's right. Auto means their computer's done it, with all the weird and wonderful results we've come to expect from the iStock we know and love  :)

Manual means you've gone in there and tried to sort out the dog's breakfast.

What a pain.

724
On BS, are you talking individual sales? I'm  not selling any more  shots, but most sales now are $1 rather than $.50
Yes, I've noticed my sales picking up at BS too. It seems to be a combination of more individual sales (I have had 3 already today, which is unprecedented for them), and quite a few for the $1 rate now.

Mind you, as the sales started to pick up I began uploading a whole lot more, too. So I guess that came into it.

725
iStockPhoto.com / Re: The new IS keywording and search system
« on: November 14, 2006, 02:41 »

P.S.  Apparently their system does not believe "wave" is a word.   

And I'm not particularly religious, so it doesn't bother me, but I can see some evangelicals getting hot under the collar with iStock's keyword 'God (Fictional being)'   :)

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