I think they are well below CanStockPhoto for photos.  Mine are priced at $10, I don't sell many.

Quote from: PixelBytes on March 14, 2016, 23:35

Quote from: fotografer on March 14, 2016, 16:09

I'll take whiney over just plain nasty any day !!!!!!

+1

I'm assuming the name rose tinted glasses is meant ironically.   Either that, or he/she doesn't understand the term.

You assume correctly. You have to love the histrionics and temper tantrums that go on here for having work rejected. Little unicorns and rainbows for everyone. Some will call it nasty, but I call it a joke and * childish. What next? I won't be your best friend anymore?

Sometimes people should just accept rejections but your trolling comments are about as childish as it gets.  Try not posting if all you can do is behave like a 12 year old.  Sorry if I have offended a 12 year old

There are different rules for Yuri, he was allowed to be exclusive with istock while still having big portfolios on other sites.  I don't think there are any other contributors that were allowed to do that?

You're thinking about Getty RM images.  Not micro.  No micro agency will ever sue anyone for any reason.

I remember SS did a few years ago and a lot of us got a small payout.  It was a calendar company.

So reading this thread, three possibilities:

• They got tired of being harassed by others,
• They got tired of harassing others.
• They died.

I suspect some might still be here but have changed their name and become lurkers.

I don't want to labour the point about Envato potentially being less terrible than everyone makes them out to be... but I've had 180 Ultra High Definition sales (2K, 4K etc) there, which has netted me about $2,000 in the last 15 months. My UHD sales on every other site may result in a much higher income per sale, but my total net from all the other sites combined, over the same  period, is $480.

Yes, Envato (or VideoHive) isn't for everyone. After Effects projects sell better than motion graphics clips and motion graphics clips sell better than stock footage... but I really feel people should ignore the 'sticker price shock' when it comes to the low prices and focus on how much they have in their pockets at the end of the month. Would I rather be trotting down the high street with $480 in my pocket, over the moon and safe in the knowledge that my 4K clips sold for $99 or $199... or would I rather the doing the same with the considerably higher amount of $2,000 in my pocket... even if my clips only sold for $8/$20/$25? I know what I'd prefer.

This doesn't make sense to me.  If you didn't sell on Envato, I think you would be selling more on the other sites. So you could be making more than $2,000.  We don't know how many buyers hunt around for the lowest price but it must happen.  The problem is, when they get 4k for such a low price, they might not want to pay more.  Then we all have no choice but to sell clips at very low prices and your sales will go down because everyone will be selling at the same price.  So if we all used Envato, sales would be diluted and we would be making almost nothing.

Quote from: cobalt on March 12, 2016, 11:23

I think all agencies should stay . out of our portfolios instead of trying to micromanage what we do.

They can always hire editors that go through the collection to showcase to the customers.

Inspections should be for technical quality, logos and legal stuff, checking releases etc...

Or they add an additional "superstock" collection with extra high prices or special license that they heavily promote.

But micromanaging portfolios means destroying the marketplace.

It is a shame, I really loved pond5, I was hoping they would use their skills to increase sales of photos, not ruin their video sales

After 10 years of existence P5 still does NOT have Sales Department.
Who is doing sales there? N O B O D Y
Video sales that was generated trough SEO got ruined by competition, because buyers go elsewhere for better deals and experience.

Obviously not true because up until recently, they have been selling lots.  Most people here seem to say they are either the best selling video site or they are in their top 3.  I think there is enough real things to concern us in the past few months without having to make things up.

40% rejection after 2 months wait here. I never had that happen at Pond5, usually 100% or 95% approval. Most of the clips are new 4k clips which there is no 4k equivalent on the site. Rejection reasons like :

"Thanks for the upload but we are seeking uniquely original and vibrant content, so we have decided not to include this video as part of our collection.Please let us know if you have any questions"

"Thanks for the upload but we have decided not to include this clip as part of our collection. The clip has no motion and looks like still frame. Please let us know if you have any question."   

This is ridiculous, so locked shots are out, it takes a lot longer to upload and keyword on Pond 5 than most of the other sites, it took 2 months to review or more and then the boatload of arbitrary rejections.    Sales have been ok but trending lower compared to other sites.    The other sites accepted these clips and have started selling no problem especially the 4k ones.

I am disheartened at best and now I am frankly scared of submitting content and waste valuable time in the upload process.   I really think they need to rethink this strategy.  Maybe they have reached critical mass and do not want to have tons of content as a marketplace and more as a curated collection.

There's no incentive to upload 4k clips if a reviewer that probably doesn't really know what they are doing is going to choose what to accept and reject.  Such a shame that my favourite site, after alamy, seems to of lost the plot.  I wont bother uploading until this crazy policy is changed.  They can't have a more curated collection when they used to accept everything, it just doesn't make any sense.

I'm sticking with MostPhotos.  They have a low payout level and I hit it regularly.  The occasional big sale is a nice bonus.  Having no reviews is great, a place for all those photos that the micros aren't going to accept.

I had to close my Alamy account since I had 4 small sales from 1 Jan 2015 :| (contributing from 2009 with a portfolio of 6k+ images/illustrations only).
So I'm not sure how accurate are those ratings ... maybe the sales are better for other contributors but for me it was a big fail.

You must of been doing something wrong with the keywords to sell that little.  I don't think they are great with illustrations but I only have around 100 and get regular sales with them.

That's the problem, Envato were telling us that we were selling direct.

Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on March 10, 2016, 05:48

Truth is, Envato's cobbled-together "market" scheme does not currently work for European contributors who are liable to charge VAT. There was plenty of discussion on that here when they first implemented it. Like every other responsible EU contributor, I got out of there as fast as possible.

Yeah, that's not something I've really had to look into. Charging VAT is optional in the UK, unless you have a taxable income of over �82K. Fortunately, and unfortunately... I don't earn that much yet.

Sorry, that's wrong, this applies to any sales you make.  There is no VAT threshold.  Was quite a shock when I read it.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers/vat-businesses-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers

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