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Dreamstime.com / Re: Featured artist
« on: February 19, 2013, 13:30 »
Wow stunning work.  It's almost a crime that images like that are selling for pennies.

Agreed. It's not just the originality and the quality of the execution but also the time it must have taken to create such images. She would surely have done better as an Istock exclusive with many of her works in the Vetta collection.

Yeah, way too good for stock but, then again, I guess the music industry shows that it's probably ok to sell electronic copies of actual art at a low price along side the "file under product" pap that is popular.

What is interesting about the IS port is that it's about the same age but smaller with a lot less sales.  Is it at all possible that IS reviewers have actually rejected some of these pieces?   :o

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Dreamstime.com / Featured artist
« on: February 18, 2013, 18:41 »
http://www.dreamstime.com/annnmei_more-popular-photos_pg1

All I can say is wow!!  Too good for stock but seems to sell really well without a "businessman" in sight.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: January PP's on the way.
« on: February 18, 2013, 10:35 »
Last two months at IS have been terribly low. Last two months at IS PP have been just as bad.

There is no doubting some buyers have shifted elsewhere.

OK tiny port there but was making an average of $0.80 per image (IS+PP)  until last November and since then it's like I deleted everything. 

Edit, what was that exclamation again, woo what?

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Adobe Stock / Re: Keyword spamming at Fotolia
« on: February 17, 2013, 10:38 »
There is outragous spam everywhere - sites allow too many keywords

730
General - Top Sites / Re: $0.25 versus $0.38
« on: February 17, 2013, 10:33 »
The bottom line here is that +/- 50% is huge no matter what level you are at. 

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I believe ponke was responding to the comment "nothing has really changed" not the title of the thread. Tickstock says that sales are no more down than to be expected and the change is not drastic, nor can I see any inference that ponke had suggested otherwise, so no words put in anyone's mouth.

732
iStockPhoto.com / Re: to recap and review...
« on: February 14, 2013, 09:07 »
De Nile is a river in Egypt, other cliches involving ostriches also springing to mind reading some of the posts  ???

733
did you have something in the queue already?  On IS each image inspected in sequence but on SS when they get to your first one, they do everything

734
iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 12, 2013, 13:52 »
You've completely missed my point.
Is your point not that some files should attract a higher price because they are somehow better or because they would generally not be mainstream MS subjects and, thus, sell less often?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 12, 2013, 11:48 »
Gostwyck, what you are missing is that not all files are equal.
Yes, some files will sell many times over and make more money as microstock/subs. Others will sell much less often but can command a higher price. The trick is to work out which is which.
I know IS didn't always get it right with Vetta/Agency, but they had the right idea. It was very worthwhile to have those V/A files, especially in the early days when they seemed to have the pricing right.
As I seem to keep on saying, it's a pity they wrecked it.
We are not selling art (when it's sold, it's sold), we're are selling the right to use a copy for a specified purpose and can do it over and over again - like cd's / music downloads, cinema tickets, books, videos etc and, like these other commodities, there may be inate difference in quality (whatever that means subjectively) but that is NOT reflected in the unit price.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Banned from Istock club
« on: February 11, 2013, 20:20 »
I don't believe Lobo is the problem, just a symptom

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: sjlocke was just booted from iStock
« on: February 11, 2013, 14:42 »
I really am shocked. Whoever made the decision needs to lose their job.  What an absolutely stupid thing to do. They really are slowly digging their own graves!!!

I'm actually not surprised - for corporates loyalty is a one way street.  I think the graves are now dug and burying has commenced - it's not just the loss of the portfolio but the complete and utter loss of credibility - I can't imagine that any exclusive is not thinking about an exit strategy and, without them, all IS can offer is high, convoluted prices.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia earnings lower than Dreamstime
« on: February 11, 2013, 11:19 »
I always have more sales at FT than DT but DT usually makes more $$ (even taking into account that FT is in )

739
iStockPhoto.com / Re: Will it be sensible to join istock now?
« on: February 10, 2013, 12:26 »
.... My portfolio numbers are:
Dreamstime 6
Depositephotos 44
Fotolia 7
123rf 18
bigstock 6
Canstock 0 ....

You know, with around 400 less than stellar performing images, I consider mid and low tier sites just not worth bothering with (have given 123 a shot but as I'm above payout now will disable everything at the end of the month).  As someone mentioned, you need to look at SS as well as IS - if they are a bit tougher in terms of reviews it will make you up your game and at least they have the customer volumes that give whatever you upload a good chance of selling. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Will it be sensible to join istock now?
« on: February 09, 2013, 21:00 »
If you would like to contribute your hard-earned money to a company that is non-communicative, doesn't respect the work of their contributors and doesn't care about the contributors themselves, then by all means join iStock.

I wouldn't disagree with any of this.  However, business is about spending as little as possible to make a much as possible and I don't believe any site actually cares about its contributors - IS and FT are just a lot more blatant whereas SS, for example, understand that alienating people is not good business.  Still, if you are selling it seems sensible to sell where you get the best return.  I completely understand that those depending on this for a living and who are very exposed at IS because of the google deal need to limit that exposure as much as possible.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Will it be sensible to join istock now?
« on: February 09, 2013, 19:11 »
On the other hand, I made more last year with 30+ images on IS @ 15% than 300 images @ 50% on 123..   :o

742
So, out of curiousity, would anyone agree that, on 123, 1 image will yield approximately 1 RC?

743
Interesting - lots of us in the same ballpark, in terms of DLs as a percentage of port size, I reckon about 33% on SS, 90% on IS+PP, 10% on FT and 5% on DT but lots of variation in RPD so the money doesn't follow the same pattern.

I'd guess the good vector folks numbers are much higher.


744
Who knows what any of these guys will do but SS have done nothing in my brief time there to suggest they will do such a thing.  So far, they have done a good job keeping the suppliers happy (rejection complaints aside) and I'd suggest they are not dumb enough to "fix" something that ain't broken.

745
General Stock Discussion / Re: The single most annoying thing?
« on: February 07, 2013, 17:17 »
The single most frustrating thing there is for me is FT rejections and their accompanying email full of BS
No point in being bothered by rejections where you find one site out of step with the others - figure out what they are likely to accept and be selective what you feed them.

746
http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/last-ss-raise-may-13-2008/msg296918/

Joanne has included the info about half way down the first page

747
As an newly independent contributor, I am confused on which agencies to upload to. I have started uploading to shutterstock and GL this past month. Looking on the right side of the board, fotolia and dreamstime is still top tier but there are negative comments for both these agencies that leads me to hesitate applying to those sites.

Should i apply to fotolia and dreamstime? Would i be foolish not to? What other agencies should i really consider? I have mainly vectors.

I don't think it would make sense to ignore the right side of the board.

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Dreamstime.com / Re: DT redesinged - check it out!
« on: February 06, 2013, 15:25 »
Is it just me or does anyone else think the centered text everywhere, even the forums looks horrible, I'd go as far as to say almost offensive?

Ah, just noticed it looks fine on Chrome.

749
Wouldn't it be easier to list the "fair" agencies?  ;)

Yes, I would like to turn the conversation in that direction as well.

For me, aside from commission rates and traffic, two important characteristics for a distributor to have are: 1) a standard licensing agreement that includes sufficient prohibition of sensitive use, and 2) ingestion that does not strip the copyright information from the metadata.

As of this moment, the only two distributors that I am aware of that offer both of the above are Fotolia (by opting out of sensitive use) and istockphoto (Google post-license actions aside). I welcome accurate input from others so that I may add to my personal list.

I could add 3) transparent reporting to that as well, but have no history or means of investigating this outside of istockphoto, which I believe could be more transparent.
Did you say Fotolia?

For me the only site that actually does what it says on the tin is SS

750
Discuss...   :D

Nope.  Pointless.


 ;D Possibly, but then the vast majority of threads here and on site fora are pointless and very repetitive if viewed objectively - maybe 10 themes in total???  I actually agree that one rate for all is the correct way to go and am not making any historical moral judgement about any site - just pointing out that RCs are essentially about port size (anyone with < 1000 images keep 50% on 123?).  The DT arrangement is the only one where "size doesn't matter"  ;)

Dreamstime lowered their royalty rates for the levels system, it has screwed over contributors and you think that's the model for a good arrangement?  It used to be 50% per sale now it's as low as 25% and if you sell a lot you can get up to 45%, still happy about it?  Compare the old royalties to the new ones.  http://web.archive.org/web/20070210004541/http://www.dreamstime.com/sellimages


Sorry, where did I say that DT is a model for a good arrangement?  The thrust of the thread is that RC is about volume and DT is the only site that actually rewards quality this is a logical conclusion and nothing to do with which of the bullies stole your lunch money recently.  Im amused at the negatives Lisa has got for staying on topic.

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