Hi
Degiro won't work with the methode I explain.
I work with ICmarkets, https://icmarkets.com/?camp=75827 there are others but this one accept PayPal and its considered a very safe brooker with great reputation. Its a Forex Brooker, and that's why that they have very good spread for conversions from USD to EUR.
When we open the account, we have to create an internal account to trade in the currency we want general USD, and another on in EUR.
1 - Open an account.
2 - Choose the type of account and plataform you want to use to genociate. (I choose CTrader)
3 - Choose the main currency for the 1º Trade account. (USD)
4 - Create another interna account (Ctrader, but this on in EUR or on other currency, depending where you live.
5 - Deposit with PayPal from USD to USD (free and instant transfer)
6 - Internal tranfer on from the IC Markets website from the 1º account (USD account) to the 2º account (EUR account). - Wait a favourable USD conversion rate, start looking the charts
The spread is the cost from converting USD to EU, and sometimes is less then 0.3%. (better if you convert when you have a total of at least 1000USD.
7 - Then you can Withdrawal on the ICmarkts website from the EUR account to your Paypal account.
(you need to withdrawal to the same methode you made the deposit) usualy only takes less than 12 hours to have your money back on PayPal.
You have to aprove this withdrawal on your email.
8 - And final... sometimes just trade a micro Lot (0.01) = 1000$ just to justify have a trading account and mantain that accounts active.
I use this since 2018, and works very good for me. Save me a Lot of Money on the stupid conversion rates from PayPal and Payonner.
Good luck, and say someting if you having any dificult.
Degiro won't work with the methode I explain.
I work with ICmarkets, https://icmarkets.com/?camp=75827 there are others but this one accept PayPal and its considered a very safe brooker with great reputation. Its a Forex Brooker, and that's why that they have very good spread for conversions from USD to EUR.
When we open the account, we have to create an internal account to trade in the currency we want general USD, and another on in EUR.
1 - Open an account.
2 - Choose the type of account and plataform you want to use to genociate. (I choose CTrader)
3 - Choose the main currency for the 1º Trade account. (USD)
4 - Create another interna account (Ctrader, but this on in EUR or on other currency, depending where you live.
5 - Deposit with PayPal from USD to USD (free and instant transfer)
6 - Internal tranfer on from the IC Markets website from the 1º account (USD account) to the 2º account (EUR account). - Wait a favourable USD conversion rate, start looking the charts

The spread is the cost from converting USD to EU, and sometimes is less then 0.3%. (better if you convert when you have a total of at least 1000USD.
7 - Then you can Withdrawal on the ICmarkts website from the EUR account to your Paypal account.
(you need to withdrawal to the same methode you made the deposit) usualy only takes less than 12 hours to have your money back on PayPal.
You have to aprove this withdrawal on your email.
8 - And final... sometimes just trade a micro Lot (0.01) = 1000$ just to justify have a trading account and mantain that accounts active.
I use this since 2018, and works very good for me. Save me a Lot of Money on the stupid conversion rates from PayPal and Payonner.
Good luck, and say someting if you having any dificult.





But just in case I missed something, I just went back and re-read YOUR posts. I don't see any mention of a beach. As soon as someone gets defensive, you know a nerve has been touched! 

