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Shutterstock.com / Re: Why not accepting the 10 cent sales?
« on: July 06, 2020, 18:14 »
$0.10 is the new $0.00 - In other words, no thank you Shutterstuck. You can keep that little bit of chump change your offering for peoples valuable content. Dont need it cause I got my sights on earning more than only enough to buy a lens cap.

Something a bit ironic in all this is that I had also first learned about the pay cut from the email I received from SS about a week ago, but I didnt actually think that much of it or about it in detail at the time (for whatever reason). Maybe I was busy, or maybe I was even distracted by something else at the moment, but somehow I even almost managed to forgot about it.

Then, around the 2nd of June, I decided to check in on my SS sales for the last 5-6 days, which is something I often do. Thats when I saw the $0.10 royalties had started coming into my account and thats when it really sunk in. Then, and I dont think it took more than another 30 seconds, before I opened up the settings in my SS account and disabled my portfolio completely. It was as fast as that and it was as if something that I had never even considered before was then suddenly decided for me in the blink of an eye. I didnt really care to hear what might even be the reason behind it. I just simply decided right then and there that me and my pictures are worth more than that. And it was only after I disabled my portfolio that I came here onto this site and realized there was already a big movement about it and that so many other people were also pulling out of SS en masse like I did. I didnt actually think the decision I made so quickly would have been so equally instinctive for so many other people too. That was my underestimation, but it was deeply comforting to see that I was by far not alone in my thinking.

I do realize though there are also a lot of contributors on SS who have much larger portfolios than me, who are heavily invested in their content, and who really rely on the SS income to put food on the table. For those of you I hail, you truly have my sympathies because its horrible to be pushed into a position where you feel you need to allow yourself to be exploited only because you have no other choice. My heart definitely goes out to you all.

I do hope though that from all of this something great will emerge from the ashes which will allow everyone to regain their dignity and income as image creators in this industry that has been on the downhill for everyone for nearly a decade. Lets see what happens and try and remain positive for the moment. Its only been a few days that things have begun to really percolate and maybe it will start to boil over in a positive way very soon. This to me feels like this could finally be the thing thats big enough to cause the paradigm to shift in a positive way for the valuable creators in an industry where there has been much needed change for so very very long. The revolution has begun!

I disabled everything while they still owe me a payout. I dont have any reason to believe I wont get it and I see no reason to delay disabling. They rightfully owe the money and so they will pay it. Screwing contributors on what they rightfully owe them is not how these large companies operate. Its my right to disable my portfolio at any time and it doesnt mean they are no longer obliged to pay me my royalties if and when I do so. No rules have been broken on my side and I have not violated any terms of the supplier agreement.

Checked the numbers on the 27th of May and again today... total images on SS have increased by 0.2%, and total videos have decreased by 0.36%. Just an FYI.

I doubt those counters are a reflection of anything in regards to the vast number of contributors now either pulling their portfolios or shutting down their Shutterstench accounts completely. Its probably just a simple running counter that counts the total number of images and videos that have been uploaded since the beginning and it doesnt reflect when images and videos get removed from the archive.

I think over the long term the reality is that Shutterstingy will end up losing about 50% of its contributors from this pressing of the self-destruct button. Greed has often been the cause of demise in many instances throughout world history. This event will likely prove to be another reconfirmation of that narrative. Or a more simplified and philosophical way of looking at it: Karma is only a b*tch when you are.

Just pulled all of mine. 0 love loss there. Bye bye Shuttercrook.

The royalty rate target increase of 25% (across all tiers) is by no means a little pin prick to the finger. It is an outright knife in the back!

Keep lowering prices of pictures, keep lowering royalty rates, and keep increasing the size of the collection with anything that anyone is willing to upload. What could possibly be more incentivizing for contributors?

Thank you both. Both methods are very useful.

^ That's not too hard to implement. Have put it on the list. Thanks!

Thank you Franky. Also, is there any way to view only the current month's Statistics without first deleting all the older Statements from all the previous months and then having to restart DM first just to see only the current month's Statistics?

It would also be great for example if there was simply a drop down menu in the Statistics tab where you could select the time period you would like to view as per below and without having to first delete any Statements at all:

Current Month
Last 60 Days
Last 90 Days
Last 6 Months
Last 1 Year
All Time

Check out this DM guide page: https://www.deepmeta.com/en/GettingStarted/FileDetails
Under the heading "Releases" (about the middle of the page). The red triangle is explained.

In short: Getty requires you to enter the Date of Birth of the model in a separate field. (besides it being written on the release PDF as well).
Double-click the model release in the list and enter the Date of Birth for the model.
(I've attached a capture of the explanation page and of the release form with Date of Birth field)

As for updating to a new version. You can also download from the site:

After download: install and then you can delete the installer.

If you bump into any issues, you can always mail directly (support at deepmeta dot com).
Always there to help you out quickly.

Hi Franky. I am wondering if there are any plans in the future to add a function to DM which allows the user to increase the thumbnail display size on the Statistics tab?

It would be very useful as the current thumbnail size is very small and sometimes hard to see the thumbnails clearly if you are using a very high resolution monitor where everything is made a lot smaller on the screen. Thanks

Unsplash is an image sharing website where photographers share high quality/res work and it is 100% royalty free. It seems, for all intents and purposes, like the 'race to the bottom' that is plaguing the stock photo industry has gotten Zack unhinged. Zack nails it and very briefly mentions iStock:

<a href="http://youtu.be/6M_OZWtpokc" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://youtu.be/6M_OZWtpokc</a>

Nice idea, but there may not be enough exclusive contributors that are active on this forum to provide useful poll results. Best wishes...

iStockPhoto.com / Re: From Getty With Love...
« on: December 25, 2017, 06:26 »
None of this actually bothers me. I was only in it for the lens cap money anyway ::)

iStockPhoto.com / Re: From Getty With Love...
« on: December 24, 2017, 10:17 »
Guess too many contributors got a little too close to the higher royalty rate levels this year for comfort. By nudging up the targets 10% higher next year, they will sleep better at night knowing there is less of a threat of contributors hitting the higher tiers next year. Got to keep making sure Getty's profits continue rising.


Sounds like you got it exactly right.  They collect money from our violated copyrights, but do we ever GET any of the money?

Do you even need to ask that question?

This is the pot calling the kettle black for sure but still worth signing. Video is good to share as well.

Agreed, video is well presented:

iStockPhoto.com / Re: IStock 2048x1365 image preview
« on: September 13, 2016, 08:20 »
Stop uploading on IS !!!!

Meanwhile you have nearly 3,000 snaps on IS, lol.

iStockPhoto.com / Classic View Gone From Portfolio Page
« on: August 06, 2016, 12:45 »
Up until a few days ago, I was still able to pull up the classic view on my portfolio page to at least see how many subs downloads my images had. That now seems to be gone too.

This definitely seems like the lead-up to a iStock September Self-Destruct v3.0 as they drop everybody's royalty rates to the flat Getty 20%.

Agreed, but the part I can't work out though is how they are going to justify only paying people 20% when all the other micros are paying much higher.

Also, there will be this mass exodus of Exclusives when that happens, as there will be no economic benefit to being exclusive anymore. But maybe that is no longer a relevant concern to them either.

I can see paying Getty content creators 20% when the average download price is over $50 a pop. But when people are now paying mostly subs rates for a download on iStock, and you cut the royalty rate in half for exclusives, it leaves you with a royalty of only a few cents on a download.

Then again, Shutterstock only pays you on average $0.33 on a download too. So I guess it wouldn't be much different. But at least the volume of downloads on a file on Shutterstock is many multiples of what it is on iStock.

you don't meant to hijack this post, or go off topic here, but then you do.

this is an istock thread, ask your question here http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/

Sheesh. That's not cool. The poster just offered some useful information in his/her previous post and then was very polite about asking some questions.

I see many people hijacking posts on this forum all the time and are never polite about it at all in any way. At least this person had some polite etiquette and should be recognized for that.

In fact, within this thread there are already various mentions of other sites and their policies on removing images and portfolios, Alamy, etc. So I don't see the questions of this poster about removing images from Shutterstock to be unrelated to this thread at this point.

Is August 20th conclusively the date after which you wont be able to self deactivate files anymore or is this just an estimated date based upon the announcement?

iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Sitewide Outage Again?
« on: July 02, 2016, 05:50 »
Once again  ;D
If I remember correctly this is the third or fourth time within a month. This is just ridiculous.
If it wasn't so sad, I'd just laugh my ass off.

If they go down 5 times in a month, and then give buyers a 20% discount coupon each time, pretty soon your files will be given away for free.  ;)

All on account that they aren't willing to spend what it takes to feed the hamsters enough to keep the site spinning.  :-\

iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Sitewide Outage Again?
« on: July 02, 2016, 05:44 »
Back online now. Thank goodness for this thread or they may have never ever even known.  :o
It's on their forum and at least one of their Fb groups.

I looked earlier, before I started this thread, and couldn't find anything in their forum. Also, don't think any buyer would be hunting around forums, looking for answers. They don't have time for that. Would already be buying their content elsewhere by then. And aren't the forums only accessible by contributors anyway?

I also don't use Facebook. And Facebook, is that how a multi-million dollar company sends out important announcements (like site outages) to their customers and contributors? How about an email to everyone notifying them or at least a message on the website (the most obvious place). You can't even make this stuff up.

iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Sitewide Outage Again?
« on: July 02, 2016, 01:43 »
Back online now. Thank goodness for this thread or they may have never ever even known.  :o

iStockPhoto.com / iStock Sitewide Outage Again?
« on: July 02, 2016, 01:03 »
All I get is: An error occurred while processing your request.

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