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I have moved up a bit, now at pos 4890 weekly ranking.

Hope it picks up after the 20th. FWIW I am seeing an interesting mix of sales. A lot of files that I uploaded last year that didn't take for the summer season are beginning to get sales now.

The queue is still very slow, but sometimes I have files accepted within a day, while the rest of the batch needs 30 days (photo ai). Illustrations move quickly, video takes 2-3 days which is perfect.

I am trying to balance the long queue by mixing content and already uploading some winter themes.

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Pond5 / Re: Pond5 down 403 error
« on: May 10, 2024, 08:32 »
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Adobe Stock / Re: Custom License as low as $0.29 now?
« on: May 10, 2024, 08:29 »
Today I got a 5 dollar sale for an image, that brings some balance


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Pond5 / Re: Pond5 down 403 error
« on: May 10, 2024, 05:28 »
i keep getting these time outs for over a week now. Sometimes everything works just fine, then I cannot get on the site.

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All libraries are full of duplicates. And duplicates of duplicates of duplicates

Ai just makes it a lot easier to copy and faster.

One thing we can do, is not use the actual prompt as the title or description.

Wont stop img2img copy, but at least makes it a little less easy.

But also with normal cameras there is absolutely massive copying happening every day.

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Initially my rank was also rising with slowing sales, now it dropped over 1000 poits from 5180 to 6340. And I consider both values very low :(

Anyway...upload, upload, upload..

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I dropped down to a weekly rank of 6340, it was many, many months ago that my rank was this low.

A lot of the content I was hoping would sell now is still in the queue, over 30 days now

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slow week, but rank moving up

it is still a holiday season in many places, people taking time off.

tomorrow is a public holiday in Germany, next week are celebrations elsewhere...etc...may is a spring holiday time.

should pick up around the 20th, if you have good summer content.

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Envato / Re: Envato acquired by Shutterstock
« on: May 04, 2024, 22:06 »
That is a great and very detailed response, thank you.

But they can just literally cut all royalties paid out in half, couldnt they? Over all plans over all their agencies, including the 60% payout for exclusive p5 content.

I hope they dont, but there is always the incentive for quick money.

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Congrats on your anniversary!

Hope your hard work keeps paying off!

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Envato / Re: Envato acquired by Shutterstock
« on: May 04, 2024, 12:11 »
"At this point they have no more contributor royalties to loot and had better hope one of these other bets pays off
"

I wouldn't be so sure of that, royalties can always go lower and the minimum payout can go down to 5 cent or even 1 cent.

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Envato / Re: Envato acquired by Shutterstock
« on: May 04, 2024, 04:07 »
While I'm not disputing that their growth is definitely slowing, there's not really anything in this chart that gives the impression they are ''going bust''.

How much of that revenue is "bought" revenue?

And inspite of buying so many customers and client contracts, they are losing business and have a strong drop in uploaded assets.

But I agree, they can probably keep doing this for years.

However I believe if they had stuck with the original team, open forums and direct intensive contact with customers and producers, the graphic designers at the heart of their business, they would have grown a lot more and could have saved themselves hundreds of millions of dollars.

Instead of buying pond5 and envato, they could have invested 500 million into growing their own business.

For the money invested, what returns did they get?


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General Stock Discussion / Re: This month's sales
« on: May 03, 2024, 17:09 »
Congrats on those excellent results Zero with talents!!

Hard work and persistence is bringing you well deserved results!

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The company where my husband works has already adapted to the new realities, they have cancelled the subscription with one of the most important stock agencies they have worked with for 15 years for another subscription with mid journey for $30.00 per month.
They are saving thousands of dollars a year with this move.

Out of curiosity do they have a feel for how much employee time is spent generating an image vs. searching a stock database for an image?

generating and post processing, I barely to 10-20 files a day. Cant imagine a designer has time for that. And if you want something really specific it can take even longer.

Will be interesting to see how this all develops, i think the ideal solution for clients are combo packages that show you both prompted files plus agency search content based on the prompt.

And then tweak your files in photoshop with gen ai.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe has blocked my account
« on: May 03, 2024, 10:18 »
all the best milo!

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Envato / Re: Envato acquired by Shutterstock
« on: May 02, 2024, 11:30 »
It is a balance of course and in principle growing market share through acquisition can be very strategic and beneficial.

But you must have a basic understanding of client needs and in our case clients and producers are often the same people.

Much worse than not being able to grow the business organically is the severe drop in uploads, especially video uploads.

And then you have to consider that their lack of growth already includes all the customer contracts they bought when taking over other stock companies.

So how bad is it for Shutterstock itself?

So between p5 and envato they spent around 500 million dollars.

I can think of a lot of things you can do with 500 million to grow organically and attract market share.

Buying smaller, specialized collections is a different thing, but p5 and envato, at least in principle, should have similar content to Shutterstock and also mostly the same buyer group, especially p5.

Overall for producers I do not think this will bring a big change.

Adobe changes nothing and keeps growing their business and their uploads from producers keep increasing.

Will be interesting to see what happens next year when ai video becomes really usable and Adobe can start building a huge ai collection.

That will attract a lot of interesting talent, so many people out there wanting to do their own little movies and clips. They have great ideas but no Hollywood budget.

Adobe can position itself as the true indie creative hotspot with that.

They can supply ai stock clips, but also buy a lot of clips to adjust with ai for their needs.

Like with images, Adobe offers both tools and resources and integrates itself smoothly into the workflow.

How will istock and shutterstock compete against that?






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Envato / Re: Envato acquired by Shutterstock
« on: May 02, 2024, 08:19 »
That report is blatantly honest - failure to grow the stock business.

Compare with Adobe is enjoying stable growth, no drama, great support, free photoshop/ creative suite for producers, great producer support team.

producers are customers, the old Shutterstock team knew that having thousands of graphic designers who are happy and keep recommending you, is a huge plus.

Would it not have been a lot cheaper, to keep the forums open, to keep a support team going and to keep growing organically instead of wasting money on buying pond5 and envato?

How many years will it take for those investments to pay themselves??

eta:

they spent 240 million on pond5, lets say another 150mio for envato, so there could be around 400mio in aquisition costs.

And so far their deal with pond5 did not bring them any growth, inspite of owning it for 3 years, they are losing customers.

Imagine they had just kept Shutterstock the way it was, used those 400mio to focus on organic growth and add their ai project...where would they be now?






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Envato / Re: Envato acquired by Shutterstock
« on: May 02, 2024, 08:14 »
Agree, their solution to "growing the stock photo business" is to buy other companies, because they don't seem to have any ideas how to create real organic growth by themselves.

It is not a bad decision, they consolidate more of the global stock pie for themselves.

Will be interesting to see what they do with the place. Envato is a much smaller company with a smaller library.

Perhaps they will bring in a flood of Shutterstock content. If they do, how will their producers react to having files on an unlimited site?

I have content on envato and I am fine with my results. Will keep adding more content when I start doing normal photos again.

But if a Shutterstock stock flood is coming in, the volume of sales might go down because of the new competition.

We will see.

I don't think this is a major disturbance in the stock force and actually will make Adobe stand out even more with their organic growth and better sales.

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I dont think the new content can raise sales immediately. 6 months from now or next year you will see results.

My sales are always down drastically after easter until september  because I dont have enough good content for the season.

Should have uploaded more suitable content 6 months ago.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: This month's sales
« on: May 01, 2024, 08:08 »
More than last year over all agencies, but less than March


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my rank improved a little bit to 5380

also selling some files that never had a sales

my test searches find my images in decent positions, but it is often different content from the same genre. looks like they are mixing things up a bit, which is probably a good thing.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Custom License as low as $0.29 now?
« on: April 30, 2024, 11:47 »
The overall collection growth also includes the endless number of duplicates of duplicates.

How much of the content added is really new??

Probably just a tiny fraction.

As a producer you need to always monitor the content arriving in your personal niche and target group.

If the new content coming is much better quality than what you are offering, chances are your sales will slag.

If what is coming in is similar or even worse quality, there is not that much too worry about.

So even if Adobe adds 500 million new files a year, I wouldn't be surprised if only 5 million are truly new and unique content.

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Well, we might be going down, but Adobe itself is still selling well. Otherwise our ranking would go up even if our sales are slowing down.

So we simply don't have the right content for what buyers are looking for right now.

I did upload quite a bit of summer content, but I think it arrived too late and just like with people I have no footsteps in the summer algos.

Next year will be better.
I do have spring and summer seasonal content, so I cant use that excuse. This Monday is even worse, I think if portal is on the downward, then its shown less. Whats interesting is that my images that are selling usually well, stopped selling but images that never sold are now selling, but are one hit wonders.

I wonder if algorithms changed?

PS: for example I have older traditional photograph that Ive made to png that use to  sell every day, its timeless, not seasonal - now it stopped. My seasonal best seller also stopped

Its strange that from this thread we are all going downwards. Did I miss anyone? Anyone is selling well?

There seems to be a shake up in the algos, all my test searches look different. But I still have content in roughly the same positions, but it is different content, often newer.

It does not seem to affect sales, but perhaps some files will get some fresh love.

This is the May first week with public holidays in many countries. Many people taking the whole week off.

Next week will be interesting.

Actually a good time for Adobe to reset algos, it will creep in gradually.

eta

over all agencies compared to April 23 I am up by 60%, but down 54% compared to March 24.

But the overall trend is encouraging, so we will see.

Illustrations are still 5-10% of my total sales, even though now nearly half my uploads are illustrations. I hope it will pay off next year.

Must do more video and normal photos...

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Well, we might be going down, but Adobe itself is still selling well. Otherwise our ranking would go up even if our sales are slowing down.

So we simply don't have the right content for what buyers are looking for right now.

I did upload quite a bit of summer content, but I think it arrived too late and just like with people I have no footsteps in the summer algos.

Next year will be better.

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I domt think it makes a big difference because ai can also copy normal photos easily.

Only editorial would be safe from ai.

But the majority of new producvers just make copies of copies of existing content, just like they do with normal photos.

However with ai, the content is now at least well lit and has a professional look.

You still need to build a port and find your niche.

After the gold rush many ai producers will move on to the next thing.

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