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There's no error. 50 is max for best acceptance ratio(80-100). Lower than that you only get a part
Users with an approval percentage of between 50-80% can upload the fifth part of the maximum amount of images daily.

wow, is this so?  at close to 80% but not quite there, and you only get  a fifth of the max , ie.10?
that 's not even proportional. what kind of arithmetic is this?  :D

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Limited Commercial Value
« on: January 18, 2010, 18:22 »
you already have many helpful comments here and from even one astute top seller.
i think it's also not a good idea to simply re-upload again without at least contacting support, as some sites do penalize you for re-uploading a rejected image that is not set for CAN RESUBMIT. 
furthermore, this is not IS, so i am not even sure if you will get any recourse from Support either, as i remember once a long time ago i got something like "we don't get involved with a reviewer's decision", or words to that effect.

it's a pity though, as these images do have CV and i too feel you got the short end , probably by some reviewer who had a personal vendetta on you. (ok, maybe not, as i don't want to bring up the conspiracy theory).

maybe it was the xmas help, as i did receive some truly ununsual rejections during the christmas hols, which i simply ignore as just that.  the evidence to my support of this being, i no longer get any more such rejections as soon as the hols were over.

lastly, it sounds like maybe you're trying to beat a dead horse.
maybe just leave it, chill, and after a few months, try a resubmit.
hopefully the rogue reviewer may be more trained to recognize the CV  by then  ;)

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10 years ago nobody would touch cheap Chinese junk. Now there is only cheap Chinese junk :-) Microstock will eliminate all other competitors and then standards will not matter if there is no choice.

very profound,mela. congrats.
much like if you were born listening to madonna and rum dmc or whatnot, and never heard of charlie parker, monk, trane, or even jerome kern, gershwin,etc...
or instead of tolstoy and herman hesse, you were weaned on your local tabloids,etc... you wouldn't even know what you're missing out .
or like from day one you've been fed fast food with pop, you would not like cordon bleu culinary served with a glass of  chardonnay or shiraz, even if you hit your head walking into the restaurant  ;)

fine points,mela.

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Off Topic / i am a 5 star hotel? rofl
« on: January 18, 2010, 15:26 »
btw, what are those stars above BRONZE MEMBER
to the top left of my PM.

i don't remember being told i am a 5 star hotel  :D
if i were in the army , i would be like a general or something.  ;D

when can i cash those stars? how many stars do you need to get a washing machine or one of those cool vacuum dry cleaning carpet hoovermatic or whatnot?

 :D :D :D :D

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Location doesn't matter so much .. at least in that case. That client was located in Dallas, TX which is I dunno 10-13 hours from me. Honestly, I thought they were asking for pretty generic stuff too (that's why I loved doing it .. easy money LOL) All I can say is some companies have a lot of funding behind them. When you own a company who is bringing in millions on a monthly basis a couple thousand bucks for some photos is not a big deal. That client ran a online dating site. Not only did they spend that on the shoot but a few weeks later they noticed one of my models and asked if I would ask her to fly down there and shoot a 20 second video. They paid for her airline tickets from Kansas City to Dallas, hotel for the entire weekend and paid her a few hundred bucks to sit there and giggle while pretending to chat with somebody online for 20 seconds in front of a camera. Places that have money don't have a problem spending it and the more money they have just means the more money they need to try and spend so their accounts can work those numbers into their expense goals.

I use to have my email posted in some of my profiles as a way of making contact .. but I started getting bombarded with more spam than anything so .. bad idea LOL. As for being a reviewer I actually get paid pretty good. I'm probably not allowed to say how much but it's what most people would call a full time income and I've been doing it since 2004 so it's just second nature at this point. That and it's kinda fun .. my wife says you get to travel the world everyday. :) ... I'm actually thinking about starting up a new educational microstock website that focuses on learning the acceptance/rejection side of micro. Everybody is always talking about not understanding the rejection process on the forums .. since I'm a 5 year reviewer it kinda makes sense for me to start a blog or something on it. (I always need to stay busy LOL)

Out of interest do you read your stuff back to yourself before posting it and ever ask yourself whether it sounds credible or not.

As for your educational blog, maybe one of the first subjects could be explaining how you've got a significantly higher number of images on the site you're a reviewer at than all the others you submit to. Most people understand the rejection reasons - the reviewer  :D

no RT, you cannot use your reviewer pass to get your own portfolio approved.
that would be  gross conflict of interest  8)

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Twitter Manual
« on: January 18, 2010, 11:53 »
maybe i am old fashioned.. no, correction, actually, i AM old-fashioned..

twitters, facebook, flickr,etc.. whatever...
it's just a place where ppl talk but don't listen. it's like most rap music or saloon/bar/ talk...

they write you, ask you how are you, and when you write them, they poke poke poke.
nothing else.

quite honestly, give me the old pub conversation over a pint anyday.

you know , in the old days of our youth,  we used to call some "dudes"  twit ???
 well, twitters are for twits. :D

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Off Topic / Re: Need your help-what text on my business card
« on: January 18, 2010, 11:43 »
you know how the great artists (musicians, painter, photographers) always say, "let my work speak for me" ?

you should do the same. my business card is a little bigger than the typical business card.  the dudes in the office look at it like "duh, so big?" , but my clients, bankers,etc... use it for both contact reference and display on their desk.

you sell photographs, you make images that speak for your clients,etc..
as my best friend (she's in real estate) keeps reminding me, "let your work speak for you".  iow, if you're a writer, worry about verbal presentation, if you're in imaging, find the one image that will speak for you.

be aware of composition, colours (certain colours attract attention, others turn people off, yet others get ppl to look at it then forget it), ...
pick one image that stands out for that little size of the business card.
many images that look incredible at 4MP look weak business card size.

what i do is i print my selections, throw them all on the carpet,
and leave them there. the one that my eyes keep looking at, that one i print as my next business card.

hope it helps.

as for text, nothing much is needed,  name, business name, phone, email...
sometimes, esp when i travel, i don't even bother with address or phone, as they change. if you have a mobile , sure... as long as you know it's not going to change.
email. yes... most ppl communicate with you via email nowadays.
phone numbers are not even that important anymore, as most of my clients contact me first via email.

but you know the rest.





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I'm actually thinking about starting up a new educational microstock website that focuses on learning the acceptance/rejection side of micro. Everybody is always talking about not understanding the rejection process on the forums .. since I'm a 5 year reviewer it kinda makes sense for me to start a blog or something on it. (I always need to stay busy LOL)

It doesn't make any sense to start a blog, as it would only help increase your competition's skill level which would decrease your sales.  Take up crochet or something :)

 ;D ;D ;D  touche Mr Locke.

moreover, if it's philantrophy, there is a thread on Doctors without border where you can volunteer.

in the late 80's when i was hired to conduct seminars to pro photographers, they paid me  $35/hr . (they charge more now i am sure).
 why not do the same if you feel you have the expertise  to train someone  ;)

i am sure many will agree that we already have too many freebies and cheapies (subs) in microstock.

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i don't use cell phones, only land line, i'm one of those ppl who never quite like the idea being contacted by phone literally wherever i am.
I thought I was the only person left on the world without a cell phone!  :D

ya, isn't it nice to be the few left without a prosthetic ear  :D

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Interesting responses. Certainly pushes me closer towards exclusivity.

so glad someone found a use for this thread.
i felt it was going to be useful, as having been here in this forum we all know
the 1,001 reasons why NOT to go exclusive from the  majority of our honourable participants here  ;)

but aside from a handful of ppl who has gone exclusive, we don't get to hear the other side of the coin.
reason is obvious, exclusives who are happy don't need to come in here to rant or complain.
as they say, an empty vessel (me included) makes the most noise (arghh, bad pun ).


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Actually, I guess you could ask Support specifically about that, they might give permission on a case by case basis. But it's the principle that you have to do that - for instance I've used photos taken on a mobile phone - the pics are only used on the Smartboard, they don't have to be 'pixel perfect'.

i'm sorry if i misread.
did you say you actually got a picture approved by Istock taken with a MOBILE?

No. What I said was that in many cases a photo taken on a mobile is adequate for many school uses but still iStock's exclusive rules would prevent an exclusive from offering them to a file-sharing site. (basically I was saying that iStock would never want the photos, but exclusives can't freely share them, which I find a real pain)

phew, thx ShadySue.

yes, i have to admit there are still certain "quirky" conditions that seem a bit unreasonable:
one being what you just mentioned,
the other being .... rejected images.

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Actually, I guess you could ask Support specifically about that, they might give permission on a case by case basis. But it's the principle that you have to do that - for instance I've used photos taken on a mobile phone - the pics are only used on the Smartboard, they don't have to be 'pixel perfect'.

i'm sorry if i misread.

did you say you actually got a picture approved by Istock taken with a MOBILE?
i don't use cell phones, only land line, i'm one of those ppl who never quite like the idea being contacted by phone literally wherever i am. i leave all contact to leave me a voice mail.

going back to the "pixel quality" of mobiles  (cell phones...to those of you living in North Am). are they really deficient in resolution?

if so, how did that get past the reviewer of IS? :o

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thx gannet77...thx all... you have a good sunday..

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Vonkara, it seems you think that a refugee or displaced people camp is a kind of summer camp.  I guess you have never been close to any tragedy.   :-\

yes, i got that impression too, as many youngsters think it's all fun and game with NGO volunteerism.

Perseus, there are many volunteer work here, and I know at least one international agency who organizes volunteer travels, but I never heard of this citizenship thing.  Also many churches organize field trips in the developing countries, especially for teenagers, what I find very interesting for developing humanitarian values in a society that is growing ever so selfish.

it's probably not so common nowadays as the last time i visited your country
many favelas have been transformed to something encouraging and liveable.

back to this citizenship offer.
 it's was around 1994-1997, a long time ago. i think it was somewhere in maranhao or some then remote areas in Brasil . you go to a place where the sertao is prevalent, and you're in the middle of nowhere except for the cardboard boxes or shacks of the favela. and you actually construct houses, put tires on the side of hills to prevent erosion, built roads, dug wells, connect electricity ,etc.. literally get a place liveable for the poor and destitute. not sure if it was in Minais, or Bahia, or somewhere where it is mostly uninhabitable.
i met a young european boy when i was in Sampa , and he told me he was from a missionary family, and he sent me to a site that had all these infos.  and yes, 5 years as a missionary and you attained naturalization to become Brasilero.



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As for regrets - well, if I had any, I would drop exclusivity.  It's not a life sentence.

good point.
so i construe this :
 the ones who are not IS exclusives ...are not because they cannot... rather than they do not wish to be.
it's pretty obvious , esp now that there is a lot more carrot waving to be IS exclusive.

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i also project  to put most of my future works in RM with Alamy, as for now, i have 100% approval there but all in RF..., and i am told i can still maintain Alamy with IS exclusivity.



I'm not sure I have interpreted you correctly here, but you can't maintain Alamy RF with IS exclusivity - only Alamy RM.

You will have to remove all Alamy RF to apply for IS Exclusive - or convert to RM, if Alamy will permit.

yes, you are right, i should have said i meant keep the RM, and give Alamy enough time to remove the RF. and no, you cannot change the licensing with Alamy. only request deletion of your port.
rightfully so, as who wants an RM that had RF history.

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- i also have been getting whatever resubmittable rejections  approved
 how does RESUBMIT approval figure in approval ratio ?
is it one reject, one approval ? or one approval?

It's one reject, one approval.

Missing MR don't count as rejections.

thanks MichaelJay. and also for your elaborate insight.  i can relate to most of it.
one being it will certainly be more sensible to just have IS as most of my submission to them is almost straight off the camera except for spotting and cc. and isolation...
as IS preference to as little post processing suits me just fine.
i am not a big fan of increased contrast, saturation,sharpening,etc..

i also like the simplicity of IS keywording. no abstract, just the description of what the images entail.
simply because my keywording stinks, lol... but asking me to just simply describe the image is cool.

but really, the thing that points to IS is that you now have the premium collection which contains a lot of creative images and of course more money for dls. it's nice to finally see that there is a place where the cream rises to the top.

quite a bit change from my initial impression of micro stock and it's direction for this new decade.
have a good sunday.





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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question but depending on your image acceptance rating you just need 250-500 downloads to apply for IS exclusive and I don't think there's a minimum timeframe. I think that's pretty attainable in a short amount of time even with a small portfolio.

no, perharps it's my own error, Paulie.
so it's not how many images you have in your port, or how long you serve, but more so,the 250-500 dls that is the criterion.thanks for pointing it out.

 and i do much appreciate that you came in here first to get this thread ADDRESSED TO IS EXCLUSIVES started.

enjoy your sunday.

p.s.
also, now i see the sensibility of IS limit to uploads. or else it won't be difficult for someone with 6000 images to get 500 dls. moreover, i can appreciate someone with 100-150 images getting 250-500 dls  deserving IS exclusive status.


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Went exclusive about a year and half ago and have no regrets. For me it was about the time and the money. I tried non-ex for about 10 months and my iStock earnings never dipped below 70% of the total. Others have had different results of course. Time: I realized I'd much rather spend that extra 30% of my time (uploading, keywording, and categorizing the other sites) actually shooting and planning. So for me it was a no brainer.

I think I had around 800 or so images.

time saved. that's a prime mover for me in considering exclusivity too. i see really only FT, DT and IS as worth the trouble, but i also see from my peers i've PMed that IS is really where you want to be because you can go from there to better things with your performance history.

i am consistently above 50% approval, so that is not a fence i need to jump. i have that already .

i also project  to put most of my future works in RM with Alamy, as for now, i have 100% approval there but all in RF..., and i am told i can still maintain Alamy with IS exclusivity.

my problem is trying to get the existing RF off the other Big 6  when the moment comes when i meet the other requiement of IS exclusivity.

ps
two lingering questions though:
- i have in the past 3 months 100% approval with StockXpert who approve my work within hours. i guess i will also have to leave StockXpert too , huh?
- i also have been getting whatever resubmittable rejections  approved
 how does RESUBMIT approval figure in approval ratio ?
is it one reject, one approval ? or one approval?

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I thought I was having Deja Vu. http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/how-many-years-to-become-exclusive-any-regrets/msg129684/?topicseen#new

For me, good move.

Reasons? Sales performance, professionalism, efficiency.

How long? One year. Mostly due to images being locked in elsewhere.

Images? Dunno. Maybe around 150-200.


wow, that's really impressive Paulie!
i was under the impression that it takes at least 5 years and a lot more like 6,000 images
if you intend to be an IS exclusive.


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I think it certainly used to be that people with little experience could be moulded into iStock's ways more quickly than those with a lot of experience in other fields of photography, who know that sub-optimal photos are often used to great profit elsewhere and railled at the thought of images, being sold for so little, have to be pixel perfect. They probably had a steeper learning curve than those who only know where the 'take' button was.


that may be also a very good point, but  i tend to agree more with Mr.Locke's point of view.

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I dunno.  I keep seeing plenty of threads from newbies who "love rejections" because it helps them grow, and how great iStock is as a "learning experience" because they knew nothing about taking pictures.

well pointed out, Mr. Locke.
could that be because those who gave them this impression   were many years ago themselves clueless about photography and they were able to become "stock photographers" simply because  microstock was a fledgling , and
as you pointed out initially , Mr. Locke, it used to be easier to get their pictures approved . repeat "USED TO BE".

which is why there is so much emphasis every year on them buying next year's model to "make better pictures for micro stock" ?    ;)

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dp

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ADDRESSED TO IS EXCLUSIVES

IS has made quite a remarkable impression since the days when they got everyone pissed off with them a while back.
for me, as an indie and a very very recent IS contributor, it is the change in the attitude of the reviewers to be specific and more communicative that truly made IS review system commendable . as we know FT and the others are still giving those of you rejections with reasons that boggles your mind and vague reasons to say the least.

but i am not interested in your problem of rejection here.
i am more interested in hearing from those who have gone exclusive in the past couple of years, to ask them if they regret or feel it was a great move.
if it's the latter, why? other than having one site to upload RF.

also for everyone else of the exclusive IS, how long did it take you to be exclusive material. and how many images did you have in the portfolio before you decided it was time .

thank you in advance for sharing your insights.

ADDRESSED TO IS EXCLUSIVES

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to be a philantropist, you usually pay your own passage. if not, that would not be volunteerism.
if it's to help mankind, and to go to a place where you can also use your camera for editorial usage,  there are lots of such NGO (i think that's what they used to call them) organization  that are based in these places, central am, south am,etc..
some even give you citizenship if you remain with them for 5 years.
if it's for other reasons, such as excavation sites for archaelogy, there are similar organizations are well.

it's been a long time , but i know that was so with favela-ridden Brazil where you volunteered to help build communities. lots of young ppl, mostly from europe, during my days of travelling constantly used to volunteer to become "missionaries" to help with building houses, digging wells, building roads, education,etc.. in the most remote areas of Brazil.

maybe madelaide would know if it's still prevalent, but i know , as i said, many many years ago, Brazil used to  highly values such services to , as i said, even offer you the choice to become Brazilian citizen after 5 years of volunteerism.
you pay your own passage naturally.

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