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Nobody except themselves. To be Lik I would guess you need enormous self-confidence, marketing skills, business acumen, energy and, no doubt, a fair amount of luck. Not many have that mix.

in the case of Peter Lik it was all about location and luck ... after selling postcards he got the foot in the door of the art world and had two galleries in australia but he never got rich with it, he sold them and opened in the US and it was a fiasco as well ... finally in despair he claimed he had to "go big or go home" and opened in a prime location in Hawaii and it was a success, from this "mother shop" in Hawaii he got the banks lending him a sh-itload of money to open in Vegas and the rest is history.


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I was there 2004, when things started. Jon Oringer just was lucky to be at the right place at the right time. That has nothing to do with him being a genius or whatever.

at the time the ONLY factor that made SS stand out from the crowd were the SUBS.

Subs have been popular in the news wire industry since forever so Oringer has pretty much nothing to claim he invented himself ...




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"I never imagined that Shutterstock would provide people in emerging economies with the opportunity to earn a decent living."

hahaha it sounds like an admission that ONLY in the third world a contributor could ever survive with his shutterstock's earnings.

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Everybody is a photographer these days.
The price of the imagery is crippled by the abundance of images. The same thing happens with any other product when the offer exceeds the demand.
The rest is just business.

that's true only for quantity but for anything else the world is being flooded by an ocean of unkeyworded and uncaptioned and unedited photos that are 100% worthless so there's no reason for us to worry too much not to mention half of them are selfies and people shooting their dog and their girlfriend.

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if they need Getty on board it must be about a News App for mobile platforms to integrate with Bing and Bing Maps, what else they could mean for "image rich products and services", they already own Corbis.


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Off Topic / Re: Why No One Will Hire You As A Photographer
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:31 »
being a generalist professional has never been a recipe for success in any field.

succeeding in commercial photography or fashion is also very hard nowadays, i did some fashion in the past but i've never been pleased with the results as i've nothing to do with the fashion world, i just can't understand the whole logic behind it.

sure, i could try fashion or news or events or nightlife but they're just not my cup of tea and i would compete with pros who are very good at it.

by the way, if commercial brands find it so hard to sell their cr-ap without hiring a bunch of artists on acid maybe the problem is themselves and their sh-itty products !



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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 07, 2015, 00:27 »
A lot of small bloggers will not be able to afford the new prices and the sales volume will drop for those contributors who stayed with the agency..
The small bloggers will lose their audience, and the ripple effect will continue, The advertiser revenue will drop, and so on.

not a single one of the small bloggers could afford to pay for a 10$ stock image in each article anyway.
but this means their business model is not sustainable unless they blog in text-only or stick with free or CC-licenced images, how is it our fault ? and why should we be concerned ? they're not out potential customers, and actually are the ones who steal images left and right giving nothing back.

same logic for enslaved underpaid guys grilling burger for minimum wages : either they accept earning a pittance or they go in street begging for money, which is probably much more profitable, and let burger king and mcdonalds figure out a solution for the sudden "lack of talent" ... again not my problem and by the way let the "market" fix itself as they say ...

grilling burgers and cleaning toilets is a sh-it job ... much harder and dirtier than an easy white collar job, i don't know in the US but in europe many blue collars are paid fairly exactly because no one want to do heavy jobs, i know people in construction jobs making more than a doctor and same for plumbers, electricians, and other skilled crafts where there's a lot of money going on.



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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 07, 2015, 00:16 »
Exactly! how can you be a fan of a ticking bomb?

I'm with you, but you have to be aware that Detroit has been destroyed by exactly the same failed policies debated in this thread. The American capitalism, at least the one that you have in mind, has been forgotten by the Detroit law makers who offered freebies from borrowed money only to get re- and re-elected again until the bubble exploded.

well, i say that mixed economies are the least evil option because i've seen it first hand in europe in the '70s and '80s and also now in china and in a few other less known cases in asia.

nothing will ever stop the horrible injustices going on in the world but when the government at least guarantees the BASIC human needs like housing, education, water, heating, all for a fair price, well that's certainly a step forward compared to a mercyless system like the US economic model.

detroit leaders exploiting democracy only shows that democracy is a failed concept, in china they gave death penalty to many corrupt politicians in the last 15 yrs, including the biggest crook of all, the mayor of Shanghai ...

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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 07, 2015, 00:02 »
Giving loans to people who can't afford them is what caused the collapse, and if that's the way it's going again. I'm with you. Danger ahead.

yes but housing is still a PRIMARY need for everyone and yet in the West it's still sold like it was a luxury item.
THIS is the root of all evils.

the government owns the land and doesn't need to pay taxation to itself, it could build 1000s of cheap 20-30K $ council homes for the poors like they do every time there's a calamity or a earthquake, but nooo the housing mafia won't ever allow it and the politicians are owned by the bankers and the landlords.

so we're all doomed to pay mortgages for 20-30 yrs now just to get a roof on out head, this is ridicolous and will bring the fall down of the whole system sooner or later, see the situation in China where the housing bubble is reaching the point of non-return.

the cost of housing the is the single key factor impacting the economies of all the first world countries, salaries are high because rents and mortgages are high, inflation in high because of booming housing prices.

it's funny that we call ourselves "first world" when with the average salaries you can barely expect to buy a small home, a car, and having one single baby, all in exchange of a lifetime of work ... and you could lose it all overnight because of divorce or somebody suing you.

the first world is just like the third world but with bells and whistles.

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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 06, 2015, 23:48 »
If a bank didn't take money off those people, a magic bean seller would.

exactly, see all the scams targeting people with "bad credit".

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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 06, 2015, 06:47 »
The trouble with capitalism (and I speak as a perplexed capitalist) is that the logic of it sucks wealth from the poor to the rich and it has no vision that extends beyond next year's shareholder report. So it fails to meet the needs of a large underclass and it fails to meet the needs of future generations. However, nothing can compete with it as long as humanity lives by the capitalist paradigm that the acquisition of wealth is good. It's funny to hear the politicians in the UK election making their pitch: Labour says the Conservatives will take money and services from people but Labour will give people money and services, the Conservatives say Labour will take money from people and ruin services but they will make people richer and protect services. Both in their own way are believers in the mantra that Greed is Good, and they appeal to the greed of the electorate.
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Wasn't a major reason for the housing crisis a rise in interest rates which made affordable mortgages unaffordable? With UK interest rates at rock bottom, a return to a normal BoE base rate of 5% or 6% might double interest repayments for some people and drive them to the wall. Then, I suppose, we will say they bought houses they couldn't afford.

it was well know from the start that "capitalism will eat itself", but because they can also print trillions of new $ and nobody complain it will take a bit longer than expected to see it falling down where it deserves.

while Greed is the root cause of all this it's also a human factor than won't ever go away so we better deal with it.

for anything else let me say that even if housing prices go down who's going to afford the cost for heating in winter and all the new draconian taxes that the EU will impose in one way or another ?

it's already a luxury having one single baby, soon it will be a luxury to rent a room, what's next ? i keep saying that not long ago even the slaves in the cotton plantations had it better as they were guaranteed food and accomodation and healthcare, all things that are no longer taken for granted in the West noawadays.


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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 06, 2015, 06:40 »
So who's fault is it when someone buys a house they can't afford? Banks fault? Seller's fault? Foreclosure buyer's fault? Nobody is responsible for their decisions anymore.

actually i agree 100% with your analysis !
but the actual abysmal scenario is the direct consequence of decades of dumbing down in the West's education paired with the hammering capitalist propaganda by banks and the media about a mythical "perpetual growth" in salaries and buying power.

people should face the reality that the government is NOT their friend and that the banks are NOT their friends, but for whatever reason they've been told otherwise since birth, so now we might wonder who's really to blame for this.

as a matter of fact, you can't trust anyone but good luck convincing the do-gooders that the whole system is a Ponzi scheme, for starters they lack the prerequisite economic background to understand these things, and secondly it would clash against a whole life of indoctrination, patriotism, and brainwashing.

i mean, take out the banks and you've the loan sharks, take out the loan sharks and you have micro-credit scams and any other sort of ripoffs, there's no way to fix the age old issue of "a fool and his money are soon parted"....

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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 06, 2015, 06:30 »
H1B salaries to check... just type company name

Here is Google - http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=GOOGLE+INC&job=


the irony is that while Amurrica claims to be the gold standard of world capitalism at the same time is enforcing things like H1B and green card lotteries that have nothing to do with what they're preaching as limiting the intake of foreign skilled workers is just their dirty way to preserve their privileges and the sky-high salaries of US-born professionals that could be easily replaced by a wave of skilled immigrants from europe, russia, australia, not necessarily just from the third world.


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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 06, 2015, 06:23 »
I don't think highly about government interference in the economy. This is exactly what is debated in this thread.

sure, but we could agree that some core industries like water, basic foods, public education, and cheap housing should be kept as a monopoly by the state otherwise the so called "market forces" would make scorched earth.

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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 06, 2015, 06:14 »
You forget that, what you want, has been tried for 50 years in Eastern Europe,  with disastrous social consequences. You forget that systems where some "elite" tried to fight the market forces failed miserably.
Before '89, East Germany was way behind West Germany, despite being populated by the same Germans. Look at South an North Korea. Same people, two systems. There is no need to highlight, which one belives that rules and regulations, instead if market forces, will bring prosperity (instead of inequality driven by greedy capitalists :) )

You want more government control,  more artificial rules, laws and regulations? You don't have to be Nostradamus, to imagine where it will end. Just look at North Korea. History can easily repeat itself.

there's no debate that communism was the worst disaster produced in the last centuries, personally i'm a fan of mixed economies like actual China but at the same time having lived in china and in the rest of asia i'm fully aware that what the price to pay for the actual chinese economy will be very high sooner or later when the bubble explodes and it's just a matter of time and it's already visible in the big cities like Beijing where housing prices have almost tripled in the last 7-8 yrs while salaries have not.

i've been in west and east germany after and before 1989, i've been in korea recently, i've been in russia and eastern europe, i haven't seen any economic paradise or any "workers' paradise", each country had pros and cons, some cities were richer than others, some areas were poorer and other areas were clean and well administered, it's hard to reduce everything in a binary form "good vs bad" ... i mean it's all relative, if a tourist go in Detroit he will be hardly impressed by the fruits of american capitalism ...

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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 06, 2015, 05:49 »
Long article but worth the read, not completely accurate but close enough, they sucked the middle class dry on a large scale and left many without retirement or jobs. 

The Subprime Mortgage Crisis Timeline
http://tinyurl.com/37q963


the middle class will disappear anyway because in the actual scenario with an average salary you're no longer part of the middle class, at best you're "lower middle class".

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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 06, 2015, 05:44 »
so where are you living??? a long time ago Enoch Powell had the same spite for immigrants
in Britain but no one in England wanted to work instead of collecting social assistance. The brown immigrant flooded England to work as garbage collectors, WC cleaners and maintenance,etc
Powell was pissedoff because they brown the white society.
these days, we also have low-paid immigrants like you call them coming from latin-am, eastern europe, etc
seems like everyone dislike the idea of immigrants. we forget sometimes that the first immigrants came to USA as cheap labor too, to build the railroad and they too were looked down upon by the settlers.
but before the settlers came, the land was actually already occupied by the native.
in india and other colonies, the same thing was happening when the cocky brits and spanish and portuguese considered themselves as the founder of the land long occupied by natives.

so, cut the crap about low paid immigrants flooding the nation.
to USA


there are zero benefits from unregulated mass immigration for anyone who is not owning properties and is an employee, that's the point.

housing prices go up, salaries are kept artificially low, and many jobs are grabbed by foreigners leaving nothing to the locals.

from this scenario, i 100% understand the anti-immigration feelings that are now mainstream in continental europe.

for anything else we can all agree that it's all been seen over and over in the past and we should just accept it but Oz and the US and the other colonies were quite a different reality from Europe.

employers will seek any way to cut costs, as that's their primary goal to make profit or at least to stay afloat and in business, but this is impacting society as a whole in the moment that foreigners become 10-20% of the whole population ... i mean in cities like Berlin up to 40% of the residents are not germans, this is something unseen in the last centuries.


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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 06, 2015, 00:42 »
socialism was much more unfair and was over long long time ago.

i lived in socialist and communist countries and i can say they had both pros and cons.
from my observations there wasn't a single critical key issue but a whole set of systemic issues and they were an integral part of how the system itself was designed from the start.

the USSR could have been easily saved if they wanted but they had to use the brute force and it was too late anyway as it's been killed from the inside.

the issue is not the fall of the USSR but that it fell so quick, a gradual transition to a mixed economy would have been the best option but this was not the plan of the West and their puppet Eltsin.

in any case there are many many lessons to learn from the old USSR and the socialist countries.
most of their social engineering has been a disaster, other things were not so bad but ultimately their planned economy policies turned out into a mess ... agriculture, mining, and even military research.

but the most spectacular failure was in the creation of the so called "soviet new man" ... people will laugh for centuries at this very idea and at the outcomes of this absurd idea.

in many ways communism, socialism, and capitalism are fruits of the same rotten tree.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: $250 for Nike wearing logo pix
« on: April 06, 2015, 00:30 »
Its not Nike asking for photos. The people who are submitting this brief might have gotten a $10K budget and are just making a bundle of the back of photographers. The shots people take for 38 cents are seriously high quality. And now someone offers 250$ and you are ALL slating the photographers and the designers. Make up your minds.

This was shot for 38 cents. I really dont get the upset over 250$

but i can't believe this set of images has been shot specifically for microstock, you can bet they're leftovers from a commercial assignment.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: $250 for Nike wearing logo pix
« on: April 06, 2015, 00:26 »
I dont understand why Nike ends up paying 250$? The people doing to the work to pitch to Nike are buying the images. Nike might pay 10K for that job, we dont know. Its the people submitting the brief that are the  culprits here. IMO.

i think the logo designers don't care about the money, they would probably do it for free, their goal is to design something for a major company like Nike and being allowed to list Nike in their portfolio.

basically they're giving away a freebie in exchange of gaining PR and reputation but it's a double edged sword, many photographers do the same joining any possible photo competition in order to gain an award and to call themselves "award winning photographer" no matter if they even had to pay to join these competitions and they won a few bucks and a free UV-filter ..


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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 05, 2015, 09:08 »
But UK unemployment is now around the lowest it has been in the last 30 years. http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z8o7pt6rd5uqa6_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=country:uk:de&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:sa&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country_group&idim=country:uk&ifdim=country_group&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false

As for the welfare state, it wasn't created out of a fear of the USSR it was the first Labour government that set it up, in line with its socialist beliefs. It's being eroded because politicians believe it costs too much and is not efficiently targeted, not because the USSR vanished a generation ago.


they consider "empoyed" anyone doing any kind of random job, even if part time or paid like sh-it.
how many are actual in full time decently paid jobs ?

even in the germany they count the "minijobs" as jobs, but it's a fraud, a minijob can be maximum 400 euro/month ...

the fall of the USSR made sure that nothing and nobody could be politically strong enough to push euro governments towards pro-welfare policies, the communist parties in EU have pretty much disappeared apart in a few cases where they have less than 5% combined, they're totally irrilevant.


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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 05, 2015, 09:02 »
My point is that on current wages it is largely lifestyle choices that make prices seem "indecent".  I'll agree that UK house prices have been inflated and it would be better if they fell (this is largely the work of mortgage lenders, since increasing the multiple you can borrow at automatically seems to feed into an increase in prices, tightening borrowing - or raising interest rates - depresses prices) but what you can afford still depends largely on your priorities and if you are austere in other areas you can afford more for the rent or mortgage.

sure but in practical terms i see for instance salaries in London for graphic designers set on a 15-25K pounds range that means what you can afford (one third of your salary on average) is 6-700 pounds per month and with that in London you can only expect a sh-itty student room with shared toilet ... and that's nothing i've seen ads for studio/assistant photographer at 12K/month ... how can you live with 12K in London ? that's impossible unless you already own your home or you supplement your full time job with freelance gigs.

living in a camper outside ? yes, that's an option but then it takes 2 hrs to commute and 15-20 pounds per day to rent your camper space in the camping so not a big saving unless you get some fat discounts.

i'm quite fascinated by alternative lifestyles since i've seen with my eyes several cultures here in the third world living with almost nothing but it just can't be exported in the West, everything has been banned or made illegal, even parking a camper/RV in europe's biggest cities is now illegal apart in parking lots designed for it which cost an arm and a leg (almost like renting a room), the governments are hellbent against anything that could compete with the ongoing housing scam, in some EU countries it's even forbidden to put a tent in farm land you own as by their burocracy it's considered a place where you can live full time  !

so this leaves squatting as only alternative and that's why it's so popular in UK and elsewhere.
what else these guys can afford ?


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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 05, 2015, 08:47 »
At the bottom end employers will pay as little as possible.  If left to market forces we will have what we have had in the past, which was basically slavery and/or people working under horrible conditions.

exactly, or even not paid at all with the excuse of unpaid stages and internships, i can attest this sh-it is going on even in top-tier multinationals like IBM or Oracle, go figure...

the market forces don't care about the social consequences of all this, and the governments have abdicated from their natural role ... the entire West is de facto at the mercy of the greediest and most corrupt multinationals and speculators in housing, education, food, energy and pretty much any primary item humans need, sooner or later they will privatize even water with the excuse of global warming.



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General Stock Discussion / Re: $250 for Nike wearing logo pix
« on: April 05, 2015, 08:37 »
a company logo is such an important thing for a company, it's a shame so many think it's worthless and that the graphic designer should be paid a few bucks !

go in any decent design studio, you'll be asked a few 1000s for custom company logo + company font + brochures etc


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Off Topic / Re: Seattle Wages Soar! Spread the wealth!
« on: April 05, 2015, 06:23 »
cleaning the house using materials such as vinegar, lemon juice and bicarb and dusting with cast-off [but thoroughly boiled] underwear). And I know people who were made to hide behind the couch some weeks when the rent-collector or the tallyman called in the late 50s, so there were plenty of families struggling to get by.

hahaha, i can certainly learn to wash my home with vinegar and bicarb if this allows me to buy/rent at decent prices.

moreover, i'm also complaining about the cost of farm land and the insane regualations the EU put on it, for instance it's now forbidden to put mobile homes in a farm land, this includes RVs, campers, even your own car in some cases, depending on the country, in short we're forced to be enslaved in renting a home or paying a mortgage for decades, no way out and no other options.

i predict more and more people will go live "off the grid", probably on illegal land too, just like the gypsies or the survivalists.


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