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Shutterstock.com / Re: Trouble with initial acceptance at SS
« on: April 10, 2008, 07:32 »
Congrats. Remember that SS is the eating machine that must be fed on a consistent basis. You will like it there.

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123RF / Re: Forum for help to explain a rejection
« on: April 08, 2008, 19:05 »
Was it a Samsung? If so all Samsung designs are trademarked, and although I haven't checked I'd imagine some other manufacturers are probably the same.


The Samsung phones fall under Design Patents, in addition to the regular trademark/logo stuff.

Samsung Phones
All Samsung cellular phones have design patents on them. Here are some example patents:
D528,096
D528,092
D527,716
D528,096
D528,092


Source link

http://www.imagecatalog.com/copyright_and_trademark.php

I have no affiliations with imagecatalog site - just have the link bookmarked.

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Here is a related link for you

http://www.imagecatalog.com/copyright_and_trademark.php

Here is an excerpt

"Mississippi, Delta Queen and Natchez Paddle Steamers
Mississippi, Delta Queen and Natchez paddle steamers are a long obsolete technology. Some paddle steamers still operate on the Mississippi River and a property release is required for their use in commercial photography.

Olympic Logo, Torch and Athletes
All Olympic Logos, Torch, and Athletes are trademarked designs and require a special property release to use in commercial photography."

I included the boats as an example because it's something not a lot would think about. I don't think logo removal will work here. The pics must be editorial if submitted.

And included the Olympic Torch because of its currency. Again, pics can be editorial only.

Imagecatalog site - I have no affiliations nor can I make any recommendations about this site - just have the link bookmarked for info. Actually I remember seeing a list like this quite awhile ago on istock I think, so maybe it's pilferred. Can't say for sure.


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123RF / Re: my first sale at 123
« on: April 07, 2008, 15:51 »
I don't quite understand the "faving" at 123. Form things I have read hear, I thought you cauld "fave" images and it would help you out, but when I look it seems to fave photographers. Can someone give me some insight? Thx!

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Can I do microstock? Should I?
« on: April 07, 2008, 15:24 »
Just a few comments.

The Panny cameras are notoriously noisy. I normally shoot Nikons, but do have a Panny LX2 and a FZ50 for fun and strolling about when I don't want to carry a big ear bag (sorry - camera junkie). I really like them for different uses and have gotten a good amount of photos accepted off of both cameras, but you REALLY have to watch the noise, especially in the dark areas. Always shoot RAW if you are not already doing so because it will give you better latitute in post to clean it up. For jpegs to pass the exposures will really have to be spot on.

Your pics are dark - yes agree with the above comments.

The comment about "soul less" - yes. What they seek is pretty sterile and in a lot of cases pretty boring. Go on the services you are interested in and search their top sellers. You will be surprised. My best seller is a real estate sign on a post with a blank white placard against a blue sky.

There is nothing to be lost by trying though and you can also get good advice here. I would start off with Dreamstime maybe because you don't have to go through the "10 photo inquisition" like Shutterstock. If they are good they just take them.


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Off Topic / Re: Stupid things we do while shooting?
« on: April 04, 2008, 03:36 »
Out of town wedding 1998 - 300 mile drive. Had all camera gear. Forgot all luggage. Clothes, toiletries, etc. Small town, but luckily it had one of the "mart" stores that was open so was able to get shampoo etc, and even a decent yet cheap dress and shoes for the festivities.

My packed clothing bag was smaller than some of the gear bags, and I just missed it on the way out.

Camera disasters? I've been very lucky. One strobe disaster on a shoot, but was not familiar with the new gear. So that's a mistake I promised myself not to let happen again.

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Off Topic / Re: Printroom
« on: April 04, 2008, 03:25 »
I used to use them. When they shipped one of my orders, they jammed 3 11x14s, 3 8x10s and 6 5x7s into a mailing tube that was much too small. I had to use needlenose pliers to get them out, and one of the 11x14s was damaged (which I of course needed the next day). I screamed bloody murder about the damaged order and they were very apologetic, but would not offer me any credits. The damaged prints had to be used for a presentation and were laminated, and could not get it through their heads that they would be getting back laminated prints if I shipped the order back to them like they wanted. This after spending a ew hundred dollars with them.

Print quality overall was ok. Nothing special. One of my orders was a little muddy.

I use Mpix.com now for enlargements as they ship everything flat. You can also get stuff mounted there. I don't mind paying the extra cash because their quality is superb with no surprises, and they offer Kodak Endura Metallic.

For just run of the mill snapshots etc I have been using Winkflash.com which is pretty cheap.

So it all depends what your needs are. If you are looking for storefront, Printroom has that option.  Otherwise, there are places that do better quality work in the same basic price range.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: why do YOU buy at istock???
« on: April 02, 2008, 17:44 »
I used to have a corporate account on istock for a company I did work for. We chose istock because of the easy ability to add credits when needed and the general overall quality. Not being "regular downloaders" we didn't want to get sucked into subscription plans we would never fully utilize.

Here is a short list of things I bought. Note that these are "specific" searches as opposed to flowers & sunsets & stuff. In case some of you wonder what some buyers look for.

Oil platform - style of the platform mattered

A certain type of cell tower (it was the construction method in the tower that was important - only one style would work)

5 year old (approximate age) smiling clean cut blond boy wearing a red shirt, looking straight at camera, isolated on white (as if he was about to play with toys). In the image, I needed to comp in a new toy prototype. Found exactly what I wanted on istock.
 
Workboat or barge with railing

One of those red UK phone booths on white or one I could easily cut

Particular shot of Canada Flag. I needed a sort of a slightly downward view to comp into an image to replace a USA flag. Was hard to find - that's why I have a problem with reviewers who say "too many of this". If they are good, never too many.

A vintage toaster

Single knife and fork vertical aspect - wish it would have been shot on black with proper studio lighting, but took the isolated on white and fixed it.

Good looking raw steak

A cello wrapped gift basket - was for web so contents did not matter too much. Fluffy cellophane wrapping and big bow were what mattered. Had to change color of bow.

Antarctica blue water, blue sky, and icebergs

Pile of diamonds or CZs (no luck on that one - they were all crap on every service - wound up hooking up with a gem broker and shooting them myself)

About 90% of the needs were fulfilled by istock during the course of my relationship with  this client. This started about 2005.  The money didn't matter much as long as what I needed was available.  We looked at Shutterstock, but at that time, once you got past the first 3 or 4  pages, you really started seeing "the crap" and we decided against it.Quality much better overall now, and at every service.













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Newbie Discussion / Re: Help, no sales :(
« on: March 30, 2008, 15:00 »
Which site likes what better?

That is a hard assessment for me to make, since I have been only been doing micro since January. I am an RM refugee because there ave been a few slowdowns for me, and styles for the high end stuff are changing. I gravitated to Micro for a little bit of income insurance after losing a $20K per year contract shooting and doing catalogs for a hardware company. The owner of the company decided his 21 year old daughter, a recent art school graduate with a pocket cam, could do it just as good ;-) THey are now finding out as the hardware in all of their catalogs are coming out brown istead of silver  ha ha.

All I can say is, I tried Sutterstock first time I think 2 years ago - tried the usual assortment of landscapes, buldings, etc, and was rejected time and time again. So let it go for a year. On Thurs nite on a whim, sent them all "microstocky stuff" - objects on white, some with clipping paths, some holiday stuff. All went through.  

On DT, everything I send gets accepted. I do have some weird sales there. One pic of a lock isolated on white has something like 6 views and 3 sales. Insane, yeah. You have to cater to buyer needs. They are not going to buy what is not needed. On DT I have about 70 sales I think in 3 months - not too awful for a start.

Since I don't have the timeframe to have developed a proper overview, cannot offer too much more at this time. I also do illustration which helps sales.

But really, do an analysis of what is selling, and follow that lead. DT is good for this research because you can flip to "most downloads" as a selector and you will see the best sellers. That is where I did some of my initial research.

Also see if you can access the Top 50 on SHutterstock, and I think there may be a similar list on Istock. Analyze what sells, and do it better. In general, mundane and sterile stuff you may have never thought of can fit the bill.

Since you have access to the models though and have releases, I would really utlize them in more every day situations - using computer, eating ice cream, shopping. In studio, use white seamless and overexpose the background a bit. No ugly shadows etc.

If it's "stocky enough", they will really fly anywhere, but some services may do better than others. Usually I think they will fall in with the site rankings here on the board.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Help, no sales :(
« on: March 30, 2008, 13:54 »
DItch the B&W buildings - big waste of time. Ditch the 6 versions of a building - bigger waste of time. If no one buys version 1, it is likely that sales will be non existent or paltry on versions 2 thru 6.

You need desperate help on keywording. Putting "beautiful" or Beautiful Alyssa in the title is useless. And in this one here, you don't even have WOMAN in the keywords. You have "women". There is only one in the pic so an immediate toss on the part of the buyer.

http://www.luckyoliver.com/photo/6901817/beautiful

The search engines key on titles, ever for LO. Get the subject into the title instead of the models names. Also in the above link you have Evanston. Who cares. The beach is nondescript and does not depict Evanston IL. Stay with what is specific to the photo.

You have access to lovely ladies, but have no eye for microstock. Put one of these girls on the beach when it warms up in jeans and a Tshirt using a laptop. Sitting, laying down on stomach, even carry laptop walking down the beach. Shoot morning for cool blues instead of late in day warm tones. These will sell.

You have a decent eye for the models, but even so you need to back it off and compose differently for stock to give some more copyspace. Some of what you posted would be better for Getty that for micro, but even then, need to back off and keep the hands out of the hair. Hands in hair too 1950s cliche unlese the setting and intent of the photo absolutely calls for it.

More color overall. Although I agree that some (a few) BW can only truly be processed by the photograper to bring about the full intent of the photo, really, leave it to the editors and graphic artists.

Well just a few things. I could go on but this should give you a start.

If you really want to make some microstock money, start shootng everyday objects on white seamless, or food. Boring yes, but if you keep going the way you are, you'll continue to languish.

3 sales on Shutterstock for me today and it's a Sunday and it's early (plus I only have a gallery of 18 so far - just got accepted Fri)- one is a real estate for sale sign with blank placard and clipping path, one is a chocolate splash, and one is a plain cube gift box an white with a gold loopy bow. That's the kind of stuff that sells. These have done well on other micro sites as well.

People sell, especially women. Just shoot it differently for micros. Pretty Plain Jane, happy mom with shopping bag, stuff like that. Better yet, happy blond mom jeasns and T shirt with canvas bag with recycle logo on it, If this offends all of your photographic sensibilities, well, that's the way it goes.

Alamy - kind of hard to say what goes there, but I would really check your keywording there. The Alamy Rank these days is kind of fickle. I have had a few sales there but believe it or not they have been fractal art.

On the Getty comment - did I say you were good enough? Not really. A couple of the shots are. On PhotoShelter - a few of these may go, not many though. PS is kind of brutal in their editing. The BW buildings probably won't fly there.

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Well I couldn't find anything criminally bad on them, but I think one site that linked to it and no other stock sites tried to put a trojan into my machine.

As you can see in the previous thread link there has been some success with getting out of this service, so the only thing I can suggest is strong pursuit.

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You might have problems here. See this thread

http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?topic=336.msg7683

I am doing some research on this site right now. It does deem that some dirt is appearing. Will update if I find anythng of worth.

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Do they allow you to simply delete photos from your gallery?

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Well what I have been finding is that some of these unknown stock sites are neing used for credit card fraud and most likely money laundering. Here is another story from a consumer who was erroneously charged

http://community.ca.com/blogs/securityadvisor/archive/2008/02/11/the-face-of-credit-card-fraud-and-what-you-can-do.aspx

The Pictureglubus site metioned here is no longer in service, thank goodness.

So just one more time - DO YOUR HOMEWORK begore signing

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General Stock Discussion / Re: stockphotospot affairs
« on: March 27, 2008, 18:26 »
And just one more - here is an istock forum post who, even though being from another country, has realized the legal ramifications as they apply to him. So very sad.

http://jezykpolski.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=57721&page=1

Here is a snip from the post:

"I now definitely wanted out, even before I found my home in iStock.
I deleated all pending files, but there is no way to deleate approved onces (understandably as they pay uploads, but as yet no money has been payed out to me). I tried removing title, description and keyword on a few files to see if that would give a response but of no awail.

I dont know what more I can do. Am I in villenage for ever and for ever unable to become Exclusive (yes I have a long way to go anyhow with 18 downloads)."

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General Stock Discussion / Re: stockphotospot affairs
« on: March 27, 2008, 18:17 »
I posted some commentary to my blog and put out a Twitter alert which brought some traffic in. Seeing this (especially the initial post) just annoyed . out of me last nite, and I just couldn't let it go.

As far as pursuit and trying to get compensation, every photog who got sucked into this is unfortunately sort of between a rock and a hard place. On the part of the photogs, well you weren't asked for any cash. If it was the case of "photogs, pay $.25 each image for guaranteed approval" well then there might be a case if sales were logged against a photo. But it is more of a case of breach of contract with international implications and hard to prosecute, because contract laws will vary fro country to country, and here even from state to state. It would be interesting for me to see their Terms of Service - if anyone would like to post feel free. Because this place is scum, I will not even open a dummy account to get them. I think the contributor terms are buried past the signup.

As far as copyrighted images being held hostage, well probably a lot who posted there do not have images registered with appropriate gov't entitities, so no real recourse there. The claims of infringement or misuse would be nebulous at best, because the photog did in fact agree to Terms, and buried in some of the language I saw, the submittor did in fact agree to a quasi redistribution scheme of sorts.

I found more dirt on this whole thing last nite. One of the things I found was the suspicious link offs from some of those scam "Work At Home" sites, so there might be something there.


The real unfortunate thing here is that this place has successfully preyed on the meek. People who posted there in hope of a few bucks were those who stumbled upon this by chance, looked at those "work at home" sites, or got shellshocked from 5 time shutterstock and istock rejections. Also unfortunate is that there could be a "ringer" in some of those submitted photos, meaning one that could really sell. The internet promises of the make money is just plain cruel - it's like kicking puppies and laughing.

It is really buyers who got sucked into the "download package" who would be most effective in triggering some kind of action, escpecially if fraudalent charges start appearing on credit cards. See related post

http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php/topic,4045.msg39424

Even though this stockphotospot is from all facets scam, when you look at the nitty gritty legal as it applies to the stock industry, you would not be able to offer exclusive rights on the major services because they cannot be deleted from the stockphotospot service. Because the images submitted are tied up in this scam operation, who knows where they will wind up. The good ones could wind up on a photo CD on EBay - worse yet, family pics could wind up where you really don't want them to. This might be an unfortunate live and learn lesson for those who got lured into stockphotospot, while the owner is laughing all the way to the bank and has since probably suckered more people into more scams.

Anyway, I am going to keep this alive on my blog, and will be doing some more research to see where this can go, if anywhere. Right now in my thinking of which routes can be taken, legally almost everything with regards to pursuit is a dead end, mainly because this is crossing international boundaries, and the offended parties are in various jurisdictions, plus the fact that the only vocal complaints I can find are the photogs, and there is no cash loss by them. A "promise of payment" cannot be construed as a cash loss - it is just breach of contract.. The principal has cloaked him or herself in enough anonymity to make this hard for the average person to persue, yet not meaty enough for any law or government agency to take it on. One hope is that maybe I can get the attention of a good reporter who is interested enough in the story as it relates to the work at home scams, part of the angle being of course how easily the meek get sucked in.

I also have a few more internet searches up my sleeve. Will keep you posted on anything new that I find.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: stockphotospot affairs
« on: March 27, 2008, 02:18 »
Thx for the links Leaf. At least if the discussion gets big enough, it will pick up more steam in the search engines if some one tries to look up info on this place.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: stockphotospot affairs
« on: March 27, 2008, 02:16 »
And here is one just for good measure, right from their photo inventory. Unfortunately it is not likely that the interested newbie will stumble on this and they'll just start uploading photos.

http://www.stockphotospot.com/stockphotospot-never-paid-me-for-this-photo-dont-buy-sedona-arizona-red-rock-county-red-rock-scam-sexy-stock-photo-a56042-41.html

Ok done with my rant. I have contacted the OP via email asking him to check this thread.

As far as pursuit of the situation, the only thing that "may" work here is the internet white collar crime division of the FBI. And that is really may work only if the USA buyers gets ripped.  Because the screwed photogs are global, it gets harder to pursue.

I don't know if this is big enough for the FTC to get involved, and then again, it would really have to involve money transactions, not just data transfers.
 

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Based on some recent posts about some of the small entities and people who want to quit, can't find the owner, can't get paid etc., be aware that these may be money laundering schemes as well.

See this llink

http://www.worldwiderant.com/2008/02/26/credit-card-fraud-alert/


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General Stock Discussion / Re: stockphotospot affairs
« on: March 26, 2008, 19:45 »
Sorry but this just got me going. In addition to various previous posts on this forum, also see this link

http://www.northeastfoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6538

Here's an excerpt:

They also have a "Special Offer Expires: June 21, 2007 @ 11 PM CST. Normally $159.95/yr." but the expiry date is always changing - so I'm afraid they are trying to rip buyers as well as photographers.

I had made a mental note to ceck and see if it was a changing date - apparently my suspicions were correct.

And here's the best link from their own board

http://www.stockphotospot.com/do-not-purchasescam--stock-photo-a37297-54.html

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General Stock Discussion / Re: stockphotospot affairs
« on: March 26, 2008, 18:12 »
Something definiely not right with this whole thing. I did a lookup on the domain owner

http://whois.domaintools.com/stockphotospot.com

Web master in Los Angeles?

The Contact Us on the site lists the following

StockphotoSPOT - US
MUSPB #2882
445 Park Avenue, 9th Floor
New York, N.Y., 10022
United States

I am guessing this is a mail drop because of the MUSPB code. Smart to at least get a drop with a Park Ave address.

There is also an AU contact with only a PO Box.

I am also guessing that if my mail drop guess is correct with no official office (premises), they are probably not offically doing business in NY State (no DBA or permits obtained). My recommendation woukd be to pursue through the New York State Attorney General's office because it is commerce related and they allude to a NYC location in their contact info.   

If they were selling tangible goods (like instruction books or photo CDs, it would also be easy to pursue thru NYS Sales Tax dept, who are like a bunch of angry pit bulls at times (not a bad thing when it comes to things like this).

And here's a bonus too - although I don't get a hit on the exact contact phone of 2063503884, I did a lookup on the area code and exchange, and that is in Seattle WA USA.

Hope this helps you guys out.

Additinal edit - did some fishing on 445 Park Ave address - this is near Central Park - some high priced real estate - to rent offices here would most likely cost several thousand per month.

Also note all of this info was easily obtained via the web and there is no intent to defame or slander, just posting what I found and making some educated guesses.

And more - Have found other business using this location, and none that I found use a mail code like the MUSPB, so I am still gessing mail service. And the topper - Just did a little more sleuthing and the leasing agent for this address offers a "mailbox plus" service where you can in effect have a virtual office with a Park Ave address. Otherwise rents at this address are $2000-$9000/month. 

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General Stock Discussion / Re: stockphotospot affairs
« on: March 26, 2008, 16:13 »
Thx Tre - I will take some snippets and will write a little article in the next few days. My blog is still under development, but it does get some good casual traffic.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: stockphotospot affairs
« on: March 26, 2008, 16:07 »
My 2 minute opinion - they offer a $59.95/year unlimited download plan. This is bad right off the start. With numerous subscriptions, the math is fuzzy. How would they ever pay you?

My advice - stay far away.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: stockphotospot affairs
« on: March 26, 2008, 15:55 »
Not allowing deletion or at least disabling of images is simply bad business. If exclisive rights are sold elsewhere, you are screwed. Yeah, gey the word out on these guys.

Can post some of your text to my blog? will help get the word out a bit.

In the meantime, I am going to tale a look at their terms etc. Won't even do a trial "joke join" hough because god only knows where my personal info will wind up. Will post anything interesting that I find.

Good note on trying the risky ones when you are new. To be successful in the long run, you need to do a lot of industry analysis and ask a lot of questions. Unfortunately, those feeling the sting of 5 tome shutterstock rejections may go this route.

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Software - General / Re: Wich FTP client?
« on: March 25, 2008, 23:40 »
I used to use Smart FTP too but started having problems. Fire FTP plugin as mentioned above is great. Works right out of the Firefox browser.

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