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Title: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on January 18, 2018, 08:32
I'm undecided which one is the better script: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script

Anyone here who has experienced both?

http://ktools.net/ (http://ktools.net/)

https://www.cmsaccount.com/photostore/overview/ (https://www.cmsaccount.com/photostore/overview/)
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: JimP on January 18, 2018, 09:37
I'm undecided which one is the better script: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script

Anyone here who has experienced both?

[url]http://ktools.net/[/url] ([url]http://ktools.net/[/url])

[url]https://www.cmsaccount.com/photostore/overview/[/url] ([url]https://www.cmsaccount.com/photostore/overview/[/url])


Did you look at these? https://www.cmsaccount.com/photostore/live_sites/ (https://www.cmsaccount.com/photostore/live_sites/) I worry more about security 1st then the rest. Maybe somebody here is using one of these. I don't like wordpress plugins sites. ktools has been around a long time, stand alone. http://www.ktools.net/photostore/clients/ (http://www.ktools.net/photostore/clients/)

I'd want to hear from somebody who runs these.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Noedelhap on January 18, 2018, 11:21
I 've tried cmsaccount a few years ago, and it took me a while to set it up, but I got it working pretty good. Updating it would've been a hassle because I customized a lot of it.

Also, at the time the script was unable to deal with charging VAT, I don't know if they updated it know. Anyway, due to lack of sales I decided to pull the plug.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Pixart on January 18, 2018, 11:27
Wasn't Photostore about $299 a few years ago?  And now it's $49/$79?  Or am I thinking of another one?
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on January 18, 2018, 18:17
Wasn't Photostore about $299 a few years ago?  And now it's $49/$79?  Or am I thinking of another one?

The drop of price is that's why I thought of buying at least one of them, both of their full license are now 79$
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on January 18, 2018, 18:22
I'm undecided which one is the better script: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script

Anyone here who has experienced both?

[url]http://ktools.net/[/url] ([url]http://ktools.net/[/url])

[url]https://www.cmsaccount.com/photostore/overview/[/url] ([url]https://www.cmsaccount.com/photostore/overview/[/url])


Did you look at these? [url]https://www.cmsaccount.com/photostore/live_sites/[/url] ([url]https://www.cmsaccount.com/photostore/live_sites/[/url]) I worry more about security 1st then the rest. Maybe somebody here is using one of these. I don't like wordpress plugins sites. ktools has been around a long time, stand alone. [url]http://www.ktools.net/photostore/clients/[/url] ([url]http://www.ktools.net/photostore/clients/[/url])

I'd want to hear from somebody who runs these.


I decided not to use Wordpress, even though many of my sites are in Wordpress. It's just a hassle come update time. Some plugins and themes becomes buggy.

To be fair, CMS design is good to look at.

I guess I would choose Ktools because they only focus on one software.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: YadaYadaYada on January 18, 2018, 19:55
Wasn't Photostore about $299 a few years ago?  And now it's $49/$79?  Or am I thinking of another one?

I think you're right.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: cthoman on January 19, 2018, 12:21
I'd say pick the one with the best support or that is upgradeable. My old K-Tools store died because they stopped supporting their old version and there was no way to upgrade to the new version. Most of these solutions seem to have a half life before their creators abandon them for a new version or project and you're stuck trying to plug the leaks.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on January 19, 2018, 23:53
I'd say pick the one with the best support or that is upgradeable. My old K-Tools store died because they stopped supporting their old version and there was no way to upgrade to the new version. Most of these solutions seem to have a half life before their creators abandon them for a new version or project and you're stuck trying to plug the leaks.

Woah, thank you for this. This got me thinking.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: baconrainbow on January 20, 2018, 11:14
Have you seen https://www.symbiostock.org ?

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Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on January 20, 2018, 19:58
Have you seen https://www.symbiostock.org (https://www.symbiostock.org) ?

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Yes, I'm using it on my site acrylik.com, but when I buy tested, I did not receive any email containing the download link and not in the customer dashboard. I already asked the guys why, but it takes forever for them to reply.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Noushad Akampadam on January 22, 2018, 02:34
After a long time searching for making my own stock photography agency & Stock photos website I find out CMS Photo script is best for me.
Reasonable Price, many functions, frequently updating and members can download free,
Good Customer support, Easy front – back ends …and many !

My two website are running now with CMS.
www.makkahmadinahphotos.com (http://www.makkahmadinahphotos.com)
www.waytopixel.com (http://www.waytopixel.com)

For Advertising and SEO I am spending money..So now getting better results each months.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on January 22, 2018, 03:36
After a long time searching for making my own stock photography agency & Stock photos website I find out CMS Photo script is best for me.
Reasonable Price, many functions, frequently updating and members can download free,
Good Customer support, Easy front – back ends …and many !

My two website are running now with CMS.
[url=http://www.makkahmadinahphotos.com]www.makkahmadinahphotos.com[/url] ([url]http://www.makkahmadinahphotos.com[/url])
[url=http://www.waytopixel.com]www.waytopixel.com[/url] ([url]http://www.waytopixel.com[/url])



For Advertising and SEO I am spending money..So now getting better results each months.


How long have you been using CMS?
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: sarah2 on January 22, 2018, 03:36
OK....have to ask...what is a CMS in this context (customer management system tells me nothing)??? A site? A setup? Part of Photostore?
 :-[
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on January 22, 2018, 03:43
OK....have to ask...what is a CMS in this context (customer management system tells me nothing)??? A site? A setup? Part of Photostore?
 :-[


www.cmsaccount.com (http://www.cmsaccount.com)
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: sarah2 on January 22, 2018, 04:17
Thanks for info. CMS looks just WAAAY too complicated for me. But appreciated! :)
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Noushad Akampadam on January 23, 2018, 04:34
@    How long have you been using CMS?

From 2016 I am using this CMS photo script.
It is very easy and fun when you get little experience with it.
I really love it.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Noedelhap on January 23, 2018, 08:42
OK....have to ask...what is a CMS in this context (customer management system tells me nothing)??? A site? A setup? Part of Photostore?
 :-[

It's a website plugin with a front end (your website html pages) and a backend for content management (uploading your files and automatically creating search galleries, product pages, category pages etc.) and customer management (an admin page where you can manage customer's accounts, their purchases, statistics and so on).
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: sarah2 on January 23, 2018, 13:23
Thanks. :) Think Photostore looks more my kind of thing....will check out further.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Uncle Pete on January 23, 2018, 13:32
Thanks. :) Think Photostore looks more my kind of thing....will check out further.

Makes me want to try Ktools dedicated software, at $79 instead of what it was, that could be tempting.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on January 24, 2018, 08:24
CMS is able to sell an exclusive image, meaning - it can sell an image one time, then it is removed after a buyer purchased it. I also like the design better than Ktools'.

In Ktools demo, I could not find it, I sent a message asking them for confirmation.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Uncle Pete on January 24, 2018, 12:57
CMS is able to sell an exclusive image, meaning - it can sell an image one time, then it is removed after a buyer purchased it. I also like the design better than Ktools'.

In Ktools demo, I could not find it, I sent a message asking them for confirmation.

Good point. I don't sell anything exclusive, but on my own, you mean someone could set a much higher price and have exclusive use? Does it have a time limit, or do you mean lifetime exclusive. That's pretty long. Even my RM sales have a date range. It's not like someone can buy an image and be the only ones with the right to use it, forever?

There is another, I'm not using it but I did for tool sales, the free demo worked very well, notifications, inventory and flexibility. I still don't understand if it can handle digital downloads, like photos?  https://www.webasyst.com/store/app/shop/ (https://www.webasyst.com/store/app/shop/) Too expensive unless it's a fantastic interface and works better than anything else in the world.

And while searching I found this, Open eShop that takes cards, paypal or bitcoin.  https://open-eshop.com/ (https://open-eshop.com/)

Just adding some other ideas to the mix.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on January 24, 2018, 18:57
CMS is able to sell an exclusive image, meaning - it can sell an image one time, then it is removed after a buyer purchased it. I also like the design better than Ktools'.

In Ktools demo, I could not find it, I sent a message asking them for confirmation.

Good point. I don't sell anything exclusive, but on my own, you mean someone could set a much higher price and have exclusive use? Does it have a time limit, or do you mean lifetime exclusive. That's pretty long. Even my RM sales have a date range. It's not like someone can buy an image and be the only ones with the right to use it, forever?

There is another, I'm not using it but I did for tool sales, the free demo worked very well, notifications, inventory and flexibility. I still don't understand if it can handle digital downloads, like photos?  https://www.webasyst.com/store/app/shop/ (https://www.webasyst.com/store/app/shop/) Too expensive unless it's a fantastic interface and works better than anything else in the world.

And while searching I found this, Open eShop that takes cards, paypal or bitcoin.  https://open-eshop.com/ (https://open-eshop.com/)

Just adding some other ideas to the mix.

Yes, I've thinking of that, like selling logos exclusive.

There is time limit found in the Coupons page.

The shop scripts in the links you gave I dont think they can provide much detailed capabilities such as KTools or CMS.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: sarah2 on February 01, 2018, 13:43
Hmmm...KTools response to email queries doesn't seem great....
:(
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: photoboxer on February 01, 2018, 17:29
Both are almost exactly the same. Functions, design, etc, how can that be? Same providers? Strange..
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on February 02, 2018, 01:08
I purchased CMSAccount's standalone script, the Lite version. So far, I really like it. The reason I choose is because of the design and the Exclusive feature. CMS replies to emails in within 24 hours.

I didn't receive any replies from Ktools. Even the guy KTool_Jeff here in MSG, didn't respond to my PM either.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: YadaYadaYada on February 04, 2018, 11:00
I purchased CMSAccount's standalone script, the Lite version. So far, I really like it. The reason I choose is because of the design and the Exclusive feature. CMS replies to emails in within 24 hours.

I didn't receive any replies from Ktools. Even the guy KTool_Jeff here in MSG, didn't respond to my PM either.


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I don't think he saw the PM. But they should have answered on their own site.
Discovered the forum I'll read that. http://www.ktools.net/forum/ (http://www.ktools.net/forum/)

Report back Jeff how you like CMS after using.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on February 05, 2018, 02:32
I signed up at their forum, and still not approved. It requires approval because of spam registrations.

Overall, I like CMS. Still too early to make a full review as I don't have buyers yet. But I did some buy test. Yes, it gives notification and emails after purchasing an image, unlike in current version of Symbiostock.

Downside with vector uploads. It does not process photo versions of vectors and illustrations. Vectors are just vectors.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: sarah2 on February 12, 2018, 11:20
I purchased CMSAccount's standalone script, the Lite version. So far, I really like it. The reason I choose is because of the design and the Exclusive feature. CMS replies to emails in within 24 hours.

I didn't receive any replies from Ktools. Even the guy KTool_Jeff here in MSG, didn't respond to my PM either.

Where they 'explain' the different levels, there is a cross next to Photographers (and also Affiliates). So what doe this mean? YOu can't sell photos? Confused.....
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on February 14, 2018, 05:57
I purchased CMSAccount's standalone script, the Lite version. So far, I really like it. The reason I choose is because of the design and the Exclusive feature. CMS replies to emails in within 24 hours.

I didn't receive any replies from Ktools. Even the guy KTool_Jeff here in MSG, didn't respond to my PM either.

Where they 'explain' the different levels, there is a cross next to Photographers (and also Affiliates). So what doe this mean? YOu can't sell photos? Confused.....

Red X means you cannott have photographers/contributor and affiliates, because that is the Lite version. In the full version, you can have contributors and affiliates.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: sarah2 on February 14, 2018, 14:02
Sorry to keep bugging everyone here but waiting for forum approval at one and no response from the other...
Can I have two (maybe 3) 'top level' categories of items for sale, which are then subdivided - in either or both systems? The sites I have looked at seem to be stock photos - cats/dogs etc only.

For example:
Stock images: cats/dogs/food/objects
Fine Art prints: UK landscapes/abstracts/animals

?
Ta
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: Jeffrey on February 14, 2018, 19:17
There are sub categories in the Admin Panel, but on the site the sub categories does not appear. Probably, a theme issue? I haven't asked though.

Try asking CMS through email, the admin is quick to respond.
Title: Re: KTools and CMS Stand-alone script
Post by: sarah2 on February 15, 2018, 13:02
Thanks. Will do!
Cheers!