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Title: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: danivince on October 05, 2013, 08:05
Download Images For Free From Shutterstock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3RioeGizn8#)   

what?

admin edit: gave the thread a descriptive subject.
Title: Re: ???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: scottbraut on October 05, 2013, 08:21

I've passed this along to our team for further investigation.

In any circumstance of suspected infringement, please promptly contact Shutterstock directly and notify:
[email protected]
 

Best,

Scott
VP of Content
Shutterstock
Title: Re: ???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Maui on October 05, 2013, 09:52
Be very careful even *trying* this out. Could well be installing a virus on your machine.
Title: Re: ???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gostwyck on October 05, 2013, 11:45
This thread needs a properly descriptive title.
Title: Re: ???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: scottbraut on October 05, 2013, 11:58
Be very careful even *trying* this out. Could well be installing a virus on your machine.

Yes, to reinforce this point - anything like this stands a high chance of being fake and possibly out there to trick you into installing something malicious.   The best route (again) is to contact our team to investigate.

Best,

Scott
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Post by: grumble on October 05, 2013, 16:31
I think that the video shows the process of installing something probably not friendly for your computer. And the image was downloaded\bought before that.
I may be mistaken but look at the time on his desktop in the right corner and on the file creation time when he selected the image.
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Post by: 60D on October 06, 2013, 00:53
I think that the video shows the process of installing something probably not friendly for your computer. And the image was downloaded\bought before that.
I may be mistaken but look at the time on his desktop in the right corner and on the file creation time when he selected the image.


Look at the comments here: http://raresoftware.org/shutterstock-free-downloads-shutterstock-pd-v2/ (http://raresoftware.org/shutterstock-free-downloads-shutterstock-pd-v2/)

It seems it's really working   :(
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Xanox on October 06, 2013, 01:54
so, is it working or .. ?
Title: Re: ???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Beppe Grillo on October 06, 2013, 02:53
I think that the video shows the process of installing something probably not friendly for your computer. And the image was downloaded\bought before that.
I may be mistaken but look at the time on his desktop in the right corner and on the file creation time when he selected the image.


Look at the comments here: [url]http://raresoftware.org/shutterstock-free-downloads-shutterstock-pd-v2/[/url] ([url]http://raresoftware.org/shutterstock-free-downloads-shutterstock-pd-v2/[/url])

It seems it's really working   :(


Probably all these comments are fake.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: sharpshot on October 06, 2013, 04:17
It has to be a concern that with so many people using a full size or much larger than required image to link to on their websites and blogs, someone will make a bit of software to easily find those images.  It is easy enough to find huge versions of a lot of microstock content using Google images and the sites don't seem to be able to police that.  I don't know why the sites don't do more to stop buyers breaking the license restrictions.  It must be costing us and them a small fortune when people can easily obtain huge size images for nothing. 

Is it that hard to find a bunch of big images that are breaking the license restrictions and make an example of some of the buyers?  This is one of the reasons why I'm no longer doing much microstock work.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Xanox on October 06, 2013, 04:58
It must be costing us and them a small fortune when people can easily obtain huge size images for nothing.

on the other side these crooks would probably never pay for stock images anyway.

if they feel free stealing RF pics do you think they're scared stealing hires pics with google images ?

just search "shutterstock <keyword>" on google images and set the search to "large" size, there are TONS of full size stock images.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Anciients on October 06, 2013, 05:05
Don't worry it's a survey method (scam), youtube have 0 like,comments on website are generated by accomplices.There are no real software that you can download after survey is done.It's a system used to earn a few pennies for each survey is done.
 
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: cathyslife on October 06, 2013, 05:11
[size=78%]on the other side these crooks would probably never pay for stock images anyway.[/size]

if they feel free stealing RF pics do you think they're scared stealing hires pics with google images ?

just search "shutterstock <keyword>" on google images and set the search to "large" size, there are TONS of full size stock images.


I did that. I clicked on a few. None of them lead to shutterstock. I think that people purchase them, then use a large size in their online stuff because they dont know any better. Or they are just too lazy to resize. That isnt shutterstocks fault.


I know this happens because i found one of my images that had been inserted large size into an online magazine article. I contacted the magazine and they took it down. It was an article from many months ago, but there was my image, right at the top of the search, getting downloaded for free, i am sure. With all of googles money and power, why they cant automatically downrez images that show in their search is beyond me.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: sharpshot on October 06, 2013, 05:38
It must be costing us and them a small fortune when people can easily obtain huge size images for nothing.

on the other side these crooks would probably never pay for stock images anyway.

if they feel free stealing RF pics do you think they're scared stealing hires pics with google images ?

just search "shutterstock <keyword>" on google images and set the search to "large" size, there are TONS of full size stock images.
The problem is when people that might pay for images find a large size image that's exactly what they need, not knowing that they are supposed to license the image.  Most of them might not pay but why do all the sites have a free section?  Some people must end up as buyers, microstock prices are already very low for people that need images for commercial use.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: heywoody on October 06, 2013, 06:05
Pirate software, movies, music are all obtainable so naive to think images are any different.  The legitimate businesses (our paying customers)  who want stock  images are unlikely to go down this road and, unlike software, movies and music, our product doesn't have much appeal as personal use.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Beppe Grillo on October 06, 2013, 06:14


just search "shutterstock <keyword>" on google images and set the search to "large" size, there are TONS of full size stock images.


You can find tons of images just searching on torrent sites
http://isohunt.com/torrents/shutterstock?iht=6&ihp=1&ihs1=3&iho1=d (http://isohunt.com/torrents/shutterstock?iht=6&ihp=1&ihs1=3&iho1=d)

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http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/522541981/shutterstock?tab=summary (http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/522541981/shutterstock?tab=summary)
Actually 3280 seeders…………

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I have indicated this to SS months ago, but I see that these files are always online.
So I wonder if SS is really doing something to fight this kind of "business"


Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Perry on October 06, 2013, 06:28


just search "shutterstock <keyword>" on google images and set the search to "large" size, there are TONS of full size stock images.


You can find tons of images just searching on torrent sites
[url]http://isohunt.com/torrents/shutterstock?iht=6&ihp=1&ihs1=3&iho1=d[/url] ([url]http://isohunt.com/torrents/shutterstock?iht=6&ihp=1&ihs1=3&iho1=d[/url])

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[url]http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/522541981/shutterstock?tab=summary[/url] ([url]http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/522541981/shutterstock?tab=summary[/url])
Actually 3280 seeders…………

_____
I have indicated this to SS months ago, but I see that these files are always online.
So I wonder if SS is really doing something to fight this kind of "business"


I don't think there is much that can be done. If they were, there would not be torrent sites full of pirated content.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Beppe Grillo on October 06, 2013, 06:35
^^^
Yes, I agree with you.

But the fact is that with the idea that "not much that can be done", most of the time "nothing is *really* done"  :(
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Ariene on October 06, 2013, 08:14
on the other side these crooks would probably never pay for stock images anyway.
Yes, but it doesn't mean that they can have our work...
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: sharpshot on October 06, 2013, 08:33
A lot of the problem is caused by legitimate buyers that are breaking the license restrictions by giving other people easy access to images at larger sizes.  Is this because they don't know how to downsize, or they're just too lazy, or they don't care?  There is something that can be done about it.  Something is done about misuses of downloaded programs, music and movies.  It doesn't stop thieves but it makes people that have some legitimate reason for buying and selling online files think carefully about what they do with them and it must make a huge difference to the sales of programs, music and movies.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Beppe Grillo on October 06, 2013, 08:53
A lot of the problem is caused by legitimate buyers that are breaking the license restrictions by giving other people easy access to images at larger sizes.  Is this because they don't know how to downsize, or they're just too lazy, or they don't care?  There is something that can be done about it.  […]

The system of subscription on Shutterstock (and some other sites) is such that a customer always download the image "full size", even if he does not need it (if I have understood well).
As for a web use nobody need a 15+ Mpix image (unless he wants to use only a part of it - it could happen), why to propose the image to download only in full size?

Could it be better to provide different maximum size, at different prices (different subscription programs), depending on the intended use? (web size - medium size - maximum size)?

It will not stop thieves, but I think it will limit the damage done (less full size images available "free" on the web).
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: cathyslife on October 06, 2013, 11:08
A lot of the problem is caused by legitimate buyers that are breaking the license restrictions by giving other people easy access to images at larger sizes.  Is this because they don't know how to downsize, or they're just too lazy, or they don't care?  There is something that can be done about it.  Something is done about misuses of downloaded programs, music and movies.  It doesn't stop thieves but it makes people that have some legitimate reason for buying and selling online files think carefully about what they do with them and it must make a huge difference to the sales of programs, music and movies.

I said the same thing in my post above. And even if subscriptions do provide a large size, why would anyone want to put a large size image on their website? Back to my post above...I think they must be ignorant or lazy.

Maybe everyone has me on ignore.  :-\
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: ShadySue on October 06, 2013, 12:19
A lot of the problem is caused by legitimate buyers that are breaking the license restrictions by giving other people easy access to images at larger sizes.  Is this because they don't know how to downsize, or they're just too lazy, or they don't care?  There is something that can be done about it.  Something is done about misuses of downloaded programs, music and movies.  It doesn't stop thieves but it makes people that have some legitimate reason for buying and selling online files think carefully about what they do with them and it must make a huge difference to the sales of programs, music and movies.

I said the same thing in my post above. And even if subscriptions do provide a large size, why would anyone want to put a large size image on their website? Back to my post above...I think they must be ignorant or lazy.

Maybe everyone has me on ignore.  :-\
Ignorant, probably, of how to resize. I've found some of my in-uses at a reasonable size on a website but when I clicked on them you could get a large size. Discovered that most of these people are using Front Page. Honestly. By no means is everyone who buys an image a professional designer. Or maybe they're a professional print designer, but don't know much about web design, and their client just wants their site to 'look right'.
And I'm still sure a lot of buyers don't read the licence details in any great detail. If they read it at all, they're just checking their intended use.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Xanox on October 06, 2013, 12:23
I don't think there is much that can be done. If they were, there would not be torrent sites full of pirated content.


it's just a matter of political will, if they can shut down Silk Road what's stopping them from shutting down all the public torrent sites ?

and here you can read their pro-piracy BS from the horse's mouth, basically a bunch of idiot teenagers and lamers :

http://torrentfreak.com/ (http://torrentfreak.com/)
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Xanox on October 06, 2013, 12:27
There is something that can be done about it.  Something is done about misuses of downloaded programs, music and movies. 

yes, shutting down Google Images, as that's the root of all evils.

but no, now google just recently launched a sort of media player too ... search for famous music artistis and you'll be offered with thumbnails and links to play MP3 and videos for free !

on top of this they take pride in operating in europe but paying a pittance of taxes in their HQ in Ireland.

this is the biggest mafia ever seen on the internet and no one is moving a finger, microsoft has been forced to pay hundreds of millions of $ in damages in the EU but google seems to be untouchable.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: sharpshot on October 06, 2013, 13:01
If Google images wasn't around, there would be something else.  I'd rather buyers were given an easy online resizing option and were made very aware that posting larger than necessary images online is against the license terms.

The other option would be to offer two sizes with subscriptions.  Charge more for larger sizes and people only wanting blog sized images wouldn't buy the big sizes.  Never really understood why the sites haven't done that.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: tickstock on October 06, 2013, 15:21
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Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: elvinstar on October 06, 2013, 20:45
I wouldn't want my website to be only viewed on smartphones, I'd want it to be viewed on every single device 2k 4k why not 8k?  I don't understand what that restriction means at all.

Good point. That should be reworded as it doesn't make much sense the way that it is written now.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Xanox on October 07, 2013, 04:46
If Google images wasn't around, there would be something else.

that's not the point.

the logic for which the music and movie industries are fighting Torrent sites is THE SAME for which  google images and any other similar service should be banned and made illegal.

new competitors popping up ? unlikely considering the huge costs of running a whole datacenter, how are they going to break even or make a small profit ? no one managed to monetize image search so far.


Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Xanox on October 07, 2013, 05:12
so the crooks at Google/Bing/Yahoo aren't even making any money with their image search and yet their service is having a destructive effect on photographers, photo agencies, and photo archives.
Title: Re: ???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gbalex on October 07, 2013, 10:46

I've passed this along to our team for further investigation.

In any circumstance of suspected infringement, please promptly contact Shutterstock directly and notify:
[email protected]
 

Best,

Scott
VP of Content
Shutterstock

How is the investigation going and when can we expect this video and the software featured in it to be removed from the web?

Show us some evidence that you take these types of asset theft seriously.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: noodle on October 07, 2013, 12:57
If Google images wasn't around, there would be something else.  I'd rather buyers were given an easy online resizing option and were made very aware that posting larger than necessary images online is against the license terms.

The other option would be to offer two sizes with subscriptions.  Charge more for larger sizes and people only wanting blog sized images wouldn't buy the big sizes.  Never really understood why the sites haven't done that.

X100  Why does this not make sense to the ms sites? There should be a differentiation in subs - large options vs small sizes

As a contributor it always makes me fell ripped off when I know someone has dl'd an XL or XXL for 25 or 30 cents
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: elvinstar on October 07, 2013, 20:26
As a contributor it always makes me fell ripped off when I know someone has dl'd an XL or XXL for 25 or 30 cents

Then why don't you downsize photos before uploading to SS?
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: noodle on October 08, 2013, 01:33
As a contributor it always makes me fell ripped off when I know someone has dl'd an XL or XXL for 25 or 30 cents

Then why don't you downsize photos before uploading to SS?
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I aiready do thar - no way anyone is getting full res image unless they negotiate a special deal with me.

But the point is even reduced to 3800 px on longside, they can still makr a huge print from it for pennues
In some respects we as contributors are to take part of the blame for doing this to ourselves - I guess I would just like to see a differentiation betwee getting L and S subs tiered at different price points.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: sharpshot on October 08, 2013, 02:01
I did downsize for a short time but they sell more extended licenses than the other sites and now I occasionally get up to $100 for an image sale.  I'm not going to put those people off.

Subscriptions look like much better value than pay per download on most of the sites.  I think they should all offer them in different sizes at different prices, just like they do with pay per download.  They would probably make more money charging more for full size, we would make more money and bloggers would be able to get much closer to the size they want.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: Bang-images on October 08, 2013, 04:43
Ok lets try to stay on subject with this.

Has anyone actually confirmed this, i thryed to dowload the app to see if it is true, but i think its a scam you end up in and endless survey loop.

would like to know if anyone has got it to work.
Title: Re: Youtube video showing free download trick from Shutterstock. Huh???!
Post by: 60D on November 22, 2013, 22:41
Any final conclusion about the method explained in this video? Anyone from SS has something to say?