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wds

« on: March 10, 2020, 17:38 »
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I got a $1.50 for a video clip download....how is that possible???


SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2020, 22:28 »
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You've still got the $0.60 ones to look forward to then!

« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2020, 03:40 »
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You've still got the $0.60 ones to look forward to then!
;D ;D

Never had 0.6, but did have few 1.5$ sales. And every time it happend i immediately wrote compalainment to SS to opt-out of any kind of "programs". To which they reply that it is a low-res-web type of sale.  To which i reply that i will stop uploading if this happens again.

Again, had 2-3 of these sales only.

« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2020, 03:46 »
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You've still got the $0.60 ones to look forward to then!
;D ;D

Never had 0.6, but did have few 1.5$ sales. And every time it happend i immediately wrote compalainment to SS to opt-out of any kind of "programs". To which they reply that it is a low-res-web type of sale.  To which i reply that i will stop uploading if this happens again.

Again, had 2-3 of these sales only.

lucky you, I have about 20 sales per month with 1.5$.  >:(

« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2020, 04:01 »
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You've still got the $0.60 ones to look forward to then!
;D ;D

Never had 0.6, but did have few 1.5$ sales. And every time it happend i immediately wrote compalainment to SS to opt-out of any kind of "programs". To which they reply that it is a low-res-web type of sale.  To which i reply that i will stop uploading if this happens again.

Again, had 2-3 of these sales only.

lucky you, I have about 20 sales per month with 1.5$.  >:(

Wow, thats a lot! Do you write to them?

« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2020, 04:48 »
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You've still got the $0.60 ones to look forward to then!
;D ;D

Never had 0.6, but did have few 1.5$ sales. And every time it happend i immediately wrote compalainment to SS to opt-out of any kind of "programs". To which they reply that it is a low-res-web type of sale.  To which i reply that i will stop uploading if this happens again.

Again, had 2-3 of these sales only.

lucky you, I have about 20 sales per month with 1.5$.  >:(

Wow, thats a lot! Do you write to them?

Waste of time... they ignore everything. Even the inappropriate rejections... SS doesn't care about us.

« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2020, 05:38 »
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You've still got the $0.60 ones to look forward to then!
;D ;D

Never had 0.6, but did have few 1.5$ sales. And every time it happend i immediately wrote compalainment to SS to opt-out of any kind of "programs". To which they reply that it is a low-res-web type of sale.  To which i reply that i will stop uploading if this happens again.

Again, had 2-3 of these sales only.

lucky you, I have about 20 sales per month with 1.5$.  >:(

Wow, thats a lot! Do you write to them?

Waste of time... they ignore everything. Even the inappropriate rejections... SS doesn't care about us.

I get A LOT of those rejections. Example i upload 9 video clips, they reject all of them. I upload 2 by 2, they accept... So naive...

« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2020, 12:14 »
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i am curious... why are you people still in SS If you can't control your onw copyright? for 1,50? Shooting video is much more expensive than a coffee.  ::)

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2020, 12:23 »
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i am curious... why are you people still in SS If you can't control your onw copyright? for 1,50? Shooting video is much more expensive than a coffee.  ::)

Well as well as SS selling the occasional videos for $1.50 and under.. Pond5 dropped the percentage to 40%, introduced web pricing and subscriptions, iStock pay a super-low commission rate, 123RF, DepositPhotos and Dreamstime barely sell any videos compared to the big boys... so, who do you suggest we do submit to?

« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2020, 13:00 »
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You've still got the $0.60 ones to look forward to then!
;D ;D

Never had 0.6, but did have few 1.5$ sales. And every time it happend i immediately wrote compalainment to SS to opt-out of any kind of "programs". To which they reply that it is a low-res-web type of sale.  To which i reply that i will stop uploading if this happens again.

Again, had 2-3 of these sales only.

and did you stop uploading?

« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2020, 13:10 »
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$1.5 for a clip is very generous compared to $0.03 on iStock   :o

« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2020, 05:09 »
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I got a $1.50 for a video clip download....how is that possible???

1.50, 1.80 each day, more and more...just love their "strategy" transition to subs for video. A strategy that will prove to be a successful one in the end >:( >:(

georgep7

« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2020, 04:07 »
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Naive (or provocative) questions:

Does anyone removed a low price sold clip or it is considered a "seller"?

Do you host those files in other agencies? In what pricing?

« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2020, 05:12 »
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i am curious... why are you people still in SS If you can't control your onw copyright? for 1,50? Shooting video is much more expensive than a coffee.  ::)

Well as well as SS selling the occasional videos for $1.50 and under.. Pond5 dropped the percentage to 40%, introduced web pricing and subscriptions, iStock pay a super-low commission rate, 123RF, DepositPhotos and Dreamstime barely sell any videos compared to the big boys... so, who do you suggest we do submit to?


True! You could only go to Shutterstock Select.

« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2020, 14:48 »
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Naive (or provocative) questions:

Does anyone removed a low price sold clip or it is considered a "seller"?

Do you host those files in other agencies? In what pricing?

I always remove video if SS sells it for 1.50.

angelawaye

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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2020, 21:14 »
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I'm really getting frustrated with the $1.50 video sales. They have replaced normal sales. It just doesn't seem wort it. It won't even cover a medium cup of coffee at Tim Hortons (and that is pre-tax).

« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2020, 20:10 »
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Hi.does all your 1,50$ sales come from ashburn usa??
All my 1,50$ footage sales comer from there...it looks odd...


georgep7

« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2020, 01:18 »
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Perhaps...

"The reason some of your click traffic appears to be coming from Ashburn, is because its home to one of the biggest technology centers in the world. In fact, internet companies like Amazon.com, Time Warner, and AOL route their information through the Dulles Technology center. The region is reportedly home to more telecom and satellite companies than any other place on earth."

https://www.bl.ink/blog/why-do-i-get-so-much-click-traffic-from-ashburn-virginia/

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2020, 08:17 »
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Hi.does all your 1,50$ sales come from ashburn usa??
All my 1,50$ footage sales comer from there...it looks odd...

Are you sure there's a H in that?  ;D More like what the payment represents.

Our Ashburn, VA data center is one of the largest data centers in the United States, boasting 360,000 square feet. Of that square footage, 176,200 square feet is a raised floor area perfect for our server requirements.


https://www.krypt.com/en/company/datacenters/iad


« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2020, 13:10 »
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Hi.does all your 1,50$ sales come from ashburn usa??
All my 1,50$ footage sales comer from there...it looks odd...

Are you sure there's a H in that?  ;D More like what the payment represents.

Our Ashburn, VA data center is one of the largest data centers in the United States, boasting 360,000 square feet. Of that square footage, 176,200 square feet is a raised floor area perfect for our server requirements.


https://www.krypt.com/en/company/datacenters/iad

  ;D ;D...
Btw i don't get it..if only the payment comes from there where in the world all these clips have been bought??
« Last Edit: March 21, 2020, 13:12 by Visualab »

« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2020, 14:52 »
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Wow, got my first 0.60$ sale of very nice aerial Italian vineyard sunset clip. Nice work SS.

« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2020, 16:08 »
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Seeing lots of $1.50 - $1.80 footage sales this month... seems like they are hell bent on killing off that side of the business. Not worth the effort when I can get more for a stills image.

« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2020, 19:02 »
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and to top it of they reject videos of good quality for the moronic reason of noise .i bought the app neat video for premiere pro and i tested it and trust me once you use it you cant find one single piece  of noise in the video
so what the heck are they seeing????? but yea its not humans its the bloody AI 

« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2020, 19:20 »
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and to top it of they reject videos of good quality for the moronic reason of noise .i bought the app neat video for premiere pro and i tested it and trust me once you use it you cant find one single piece  of noise in the video
so what the heck are they seeing????? but yea its not humans its the bloody AI

While just speculation, I don't think it's AI. I think they've outsourced it to somewhere like India, where a guy gets paid for how many videos he "reviews".
So out of laziness, periodically just skips a bunch so he/she can say they were "reviewed", so he/she gets paid.

I know for a fact some of them do exactly that with deliveries. (I.e., some DHL drivers will just mark "attempted delivery" several times so it "appears" they are working, when in fact they just skip the delivery route). Some of them are very creative with ways to 'scam' the system, aka get paid without doing any work.

georgep7

« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2020, 04:59 »
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and to top it of they reject videos of good quality for the moronic reason of noise .i bought the app neat video for premiere pro and i tested it and trust me once you use it you cant find one single piece  of noise in the video
so what the heck are they seeing????? but yea its not humans its the bloody AI

Unfortunately image goes way too softer using NeatVideo.
It is supposed to make usable a grainy shot you cannot replicate
not stock!

 :-\

edit, if e.g. Neat Video can read noise or softness, so the agency will do to the final result.
We might laugh on humans pixel peeping but for AI it is normal standard procedure from start pixel to end pixel ?
« Last Edit: March 22, 2020, 06:05 by georgep7 »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2020, 12:42 »
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Hi.does all your 1,50$ sales come from ashburn usa??
All my 1,50$ footage sales comer from there...it looks odd...

Are you sure there's a H in that?  ;D More like what the payment represents.

Our Ashburn, VA data center is one of the largest data centers in the United States, boasting 360,000 square feet. Of that square footage, 176,200 square feet is a raised floor area perfect for our server requirements.


https://www.krypt.com/en/company/datacenters/iad

  ;D ;D...
Btw i don't get it..if only the payment comes from there where in the world all these clips have been bought??

The reported location is the IP address of the buyer, that's how SS reports the location. Someone using a VPN could show as anywhere in the world. The location information we get is possibly of no use.

Why is the location important? I'm sure I'll see some good reasons. Personally I don't see anything that would help me sell more, if I knew the locations. I mean from the locations I see already, I don't see anything useful for mine.

How is location important or useful? How can someone use that to improve sales or ideas for creating new stock? That's an interesting subject?

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2020, 12:49 »
+4

While just speculation, I don't think it's AI. I think they've outsourced it to somewhere like India, where a guy gets paid for how many videos he "reviews".
So out of laziness, periodically just skips a bunch so he/she can say they were "reviewed", so he/she gets paid.

I know for a fact some of them do exactly that with deliveries. (I.e., some DHL drivers will just mark "attempted delivery" several times so it "appears" they are working, when in fact they just skip the delivery route). Some of them are very creative with ways to 'scam' the system, aka get paid without doing any work.

Good theories, I'd agree. If there's a way for someone to cheat the system and get paid for pretending to be working, they will often do that.

"Here honey, Daddy is busy watching the soccer match, play this reviewer game for me..."




« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2020, 19:33 »
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Hi.does all your 1,50$ sales come from ashburn usa??
All my 1,50$ footage sales comer from there...it looks odd...

Are you sure there's a H in that?  ;D More like what the payment represents.

Our Ashburn, VA data center is one of the largest data centers in the United States, boasting 360,000 square feet. Of that square footage, 176,200 square feet is a raised floor area perfect for our server requirements.


https://www.krypt.com/en/company/datacenters/iad

  ;D ;D...
Btw i don't get it..if only the payment comes from there where in the world all these clips have been bought??

The reported location is the IP address of the buyer, that's how SS reports the location. Someone using a VPN could show as anywhere in the world. The location information we get is possibly of no use.

Why is the location important? I'm sure I'll see some good reasons. Personally I don't see anything that would help me sell more, if I knew the locations. I mean from the locations I see already, I don't see anything useful for mine.

How is location important or useful? How can someone use that to improve sales or ideas for creating new stock? That's an interesting subject?

not that important...i was just planning to go to ashburn and burn down every production company... ;D ;D
just joking,i was only curious...

« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2020, 21:47 »
+1
haha, now that's funny - I never thought someone would have their kid do it - but who knows, you could be 100% correct! :)


While just speculation, I don't think it's AI. I think they've outsourced it to somewhere like India, where a guy gets paid for how many videos he "reviews".
So out of laziness, periodically just skips a bunch so he/she can say they were "reviewed", so he/she gets paid.

I know for a fact some of them do exactly that with deliveries. (I.e., some DHL drivers will just mark "attempted delivery" several times so it "appears" they are working, when in fact they just skip the delivery route). Some of them are very creative with ways to 'scam' the system, aka get paid without doing any work.

Good theories, I'd agree. If there's a way for someone to cheat the system and get paid for pretending to be working, they will often do that.

"Here honey, Daddy is busy watching the soccer match, play this reviewer game for me..."



« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2020, 02:37 »
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A lot of us is experiencing 1,5$ sales from Ashburn-USA
Does anybody know which company is based there?

« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2020, 03:35 »
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Ashburn has a huge number of server farms (thanks to tax breaks).  Amazon AWS, ATT and others etc.  Most large companies.

So for the "amazing super, special price awesome earning opportunity" $1.50 video sales via Wix or similar would easily come from one location.  Its simply where the cut-price, non opt-out penny stock host is based.

« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2020, 03:38 »
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A lot of us is experiencing 1,5$ sales from Ashburn-USA
Does anybody know which company is based there?

The answer is....most of them.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/09/14/70-percent-worlds-web-traffic-flows-loudoun-county/

Pretty much every major hosting provider has a presence there.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2020, 09:33 »
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not that important...i was just planning to go to ashburn and burn down every production company... ;D ;D
just joking,i was only curious...

I'll come watch and maybe the forum can collect bail money for you.  ;D


Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2020, 09:35 »
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A lot of us is experiencing 1,5$ sales from Ashburn-USA
Does anybody know which company is based there?

Two threads with the same question and same answers. Server Farm

« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2020, 11:37 »
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I've merged both threads on the same topic.  Thanks for the heads up @uncle pete

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2020, 08:06 »
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I've merged both threads on the same topic.  Thanks for the heads up @uncle pete

I just thought instead of two with the same discussion and comments, you might be able to merge things. Thank you for keeping this place running, spending all the time adjusting, editing, correcting and all that goes on, behind the scenes.

« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2020, 12:44 »
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I just got a 0.60$ footage sale  8)  Best agency ever.


« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2020, 13:30 »
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I just got a 0.60$ footage sale  8)  Best agency ever.

Was that SS? Or somewhere else??

« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2020, 08:32 »
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I just got a 0.60$ footage sale  8)  Best agency ever.

Was that SS? Or somewhere else??

Sadly on SS.

« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2020, 10:03 »
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I just got a 0.60$ footage sale  8)  Best agency ever.

Was that SS? Or somewhere else??

Sadly on SS.

Wow. Just wow.

« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2020, 14:10 »
+2
I just got a 0.60$ footage sale  8)  Best agency ever.

Was that SS? Or somewhere else??

Sadly on SS.

Wow. Just wow.

Exactly.

Every time this 1.5$ sales come i write to SS support. So i did for 0.6$ sale. And got response in manner that i already got response for my 1.5$ question few weeks earlier. And that response was that SS is selling low res files for web use or something like that. At least it would be nice to have insight to what licence footage has been sold, and for how much $.



Uncle Pete

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« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2020, 08:55 »
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I just got a 0.60$ footage sale  8)  Best agency ever.

Was that SS? Or somewhere else??

Sadly on SS.

Wow. Just wow.

Exactly.

Every time this 1.5$ sales come i write to SS support. So i did for 0.6$ sale. And got response in manner that i already got response for my 1.5$ question few weeks earlier. And that response was that SS is selling low res files for web use or something like that. At least it would be nice to have insight to what licence footage has been sold, and for how much $.

Yes, making it clear if it was some new deal or some old limited use would sure make a difference. Not for me, I went exclusive on Pond5 last year, but I'd think that making the actual license type clear from those who care, would be a good thing.

« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2020, 07:33 »
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I just got a 0.60$ footage sale  8)  Best agency ever.

Was that SS? Or somewhere else??

Sadly on SS.

Wow. Just wow.

Exactly.

Every time this 1.5$ sales come i write to SS support. So i did for 0.6$ sale. And got response in manner that i already got response for my 1.5$ question few weeks earlier. And that response was that SS is selling low res files for web use or something like that. At least it would be nice to have insight to what licence footage has been sold, and for how much $.

Yes, making it clear if it was some new deal or some old limited use would sure make a difference. Not for me, I went exclusive on Pond5 last year, but I'd think that making the actual license type clear from those who care, would be a good thing.

How is exclusive on P5 going? If i may ask  8)

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2020, 11:36 »
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I just got a 0.60$ footage sale  8)  Best agency ever.

Was that SS? Or somewhere else??

Sadly on SS.

Wow. Just wow.

Exactly.

Every time this 1.5$ sales come i write to SS support. So i did for 0.6$ sale. And got response in manner that i already got response for my 1.5$ question few weeks earlier. And that response was that SS is selling low res files for web use or something like that. At least it would be nice to have insight to what licence footage has been sold, and for how much $.

Yes, making it clear if it was some new deal or some old limited use would sure make a difference. Not for me, I went exclusive on Pond5 last year, but I'd think that making the actual license type clear from those who care, would be a good thing.

How is exclusive on P5 going? If i may ask  8)

I'm making 60% of nothing instead of a much lower percentage of nothing.  ;D

And that's the honest truth. I'm terrible at video, I stopped trying, I stopped editing or uploading. You'll have to ask someone who actually has some quality marketable video. My decision was based on simplicity. I'm more involved in other ideas, projects and making photos.

So the decision was, get the highest possible return, from the place that is known for video. Similar to why I use Wirestock for DT, DP and P5. I have other more important things to do and this is basically throw away work. If something sells, I'll be happy. If nothing sells, I'm not missing anything.

Or as my Uncle Ed used to say: "I'd rather sit for nothing, than work for nothing." I'm not going to put time and effort into things that don't make a return, when I have other interests and materials that do make me some money. All about using my time and resources where I get the best returns. Video isn't one of those places, personally.

I still shoot some timelapse and video, maybe some day I'll get a clue and do something that's useful for stock and good enough.

« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2020, 12:15 »
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I got 1,37$ sale today!  >:(

« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2020, 14:04 »
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I got 1,37$ sale today!  >:(

Just (again) had 2x 0.60$ at SS. Similar clips (construction/concrete). This is disgraceful.
0.60$ sales started before this new subscription plan.

Is there a way to find out which resolution was bought?
« Last Edit: April 26, 2020, 14:20 by skysense »

« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2020, 14:47 »
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I don't think you can see resolution bought with those small sales, would say that probably they don't go bellow HD. If it was normal sale SD is 50  :-\


« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2020, 16:09 »
+2

« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2020, 16:48 »
+1
Check out this post from SS forum. It explains Wix scam.

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/93927-150-video-sale/?do=findComment&comment=1820262

As I said before: Wow. Just wow.

Thanks so much for posting that link. All it took was reading the first post on that page by Justin Horrocks, followed by a few others below, to convince me that I'm glad I pulled my HDs and 4Ks out of SS.

I may or may not do better as a video exclusive at P5, but "nothing" almost seems better to me than that sort of constant gut-churning aggravation at SS.

Taking pride in your work and upholding your own standards is worth something, too.

« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2020, 10:41 »
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And its not just Wix scam, it worst. I'll just post link to my post from SS forum here:

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/93927-150-video-sale/?do=findComment&comment=1834198







« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2020, 15:33 »
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And its not just Wix scam, it worst. I'll just post link to my post from SS forum here:

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/93927-150-video-sale/?do=findComment&comment=1834198


Amazing. I have no words except

I'm now really, REALLY, REALLY!!!! glad I took my clips out of SS. Who needs that?

« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2020, 17:57 »
+1
And its not just Wix scam, it worst. I'll just post link to my post from SS forum here:

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/93927-150-video-sale/?do=findComment&comment=1834198


Amazing. I have no words except

I'm now really, REALLY, REALLY!!!! glad I took my clips out of SS. Who needs that?


Me too and I had thousands over many years!

« Reply #52 on: May 01, 2020, 22:59 »
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Are you guys making more / higher sales elsewhere than on SS?

I upload vids to two other sites (P5 and AS) and don't see anywhere near the number of footage sales on SS. Not that I have many anyway with a small port. My sales on SS are roughly around $20 per clip.

« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2020, 06:48 »
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Just sold a timelapse and got $0.60.

« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2020, 08:18 »
+2
Wait until January then instead of the 30% you get now, you'll get 15%.
You can sell a 30 cent timelapse!

« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2020, 08:21 »
+1
Just sold a timelapse and got $0.60.

Woo hoo!!! Lucky, lucky you.  >:(

« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2020, 09:41 »
+1
I got a $1.50 for a video clip download....how is that possible???
You mean why it is so high? Because its not yet June 1st :-)


« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2020, 11:27 »
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I got a $1.50 for a video clip download....how is that possible???
You mean why it is so high? Because its not yet June 1st :-)

Good point. Sad.


 

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