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« on: May 03, 2020, 13:29 »
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This is my lowest sale to date. I've seen the $1.50 threads but thought I'd just share this anyway. I guess the 90 minutes it took to shoot this clip and the hour to process it is only worth $3.36. Keep up the great work shutterstock.

Here's what SS considers to be worthless. https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1030079846


« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2020, 13:44 »
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This is my lowest sale to date. I've seen the $1.50 threads but thought I'd just share this anyway. I guess the 90 minutes it took to shoot this clip and the hour to process it is only worth $3.36. Keep up the great work shutterstock.

Here's what SS considers to be worthless. https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1030079846

I just "liked" your comment not because I actually, ya'know, "liked" it but because it reinforced my own personal decision, made 2 weeks ago, to pull my clips out of SS (and, with regrets, Adobe too) and go exclusive with P5.

In the long run, that may have been a mistake on my part, but right now it feels very good.

Thanks for sharing your experience, which left me with a sad, sour taste in my mouth. Why bother?

ETA: Your hyperlapse is wonderful, BTW. Congratulations on doing such beautiful work.

« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2020, 13:57 »
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Thanks, man. It sucks to see anyones hard word undervalued like this. I'm going to follow suit and start removing any clip that sells for a pittance.

georgep7

« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2020, 14:15 »
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did you removed it?

SS says 404 "Well, this is unexpected..."

but with this pricing this (removing asset) had to be expected from contributors side...

« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2020, 15:48 »
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did you removed it?

SS says 404 "Well, this is unexpected..."

but with this pricing this (removing asset) had to be expected from contributors side...

Yes I did remove it. I should have left it up for a bit after posting this.  :o

« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2020, 16:45 »
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This is my lowest sale to date. I've seen the $1.50 threads but thought I'd just share this anyway. I guess the 90 minutes it took to shoot this clip and the hour to process it is only worth $3.36. Keep up the great work shutterstock.

Here's what SS considers to be worthless. https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1030079846

I just "liked" your comment not because I actually, ya'know, "liked" it but because it reinforced my own personal decision, made 2 weeks ago, to pull my clips out of SS (and, with regrets, Adobe too) and go exclusive with P5.

In the long run, that may have been a mistake on my part, but right now it feels very good.

Thanks for sharing your experience, which left me with a sad, sour taste in my mouth. Why bother?

ETA: Your hyperlapse is wonderful, BTW. Congratulations on doing such beautiful work.

How many clips is your port? I have been contemplating removing from SS as well and the few I have on IS. 

« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2020, 18:31 »
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This is my lowest sale to date. I've seen the $1.50 threads but thought I'd just share this anyway. I guess the 90 minutes it took to shoot this clip and the hour to process it is only worth $3.36. Keep up the great work shutterstock.

Here's what SS considers to be worthless. https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1030079846

I just "liked" your comment not because I actually, ya'know, "liked" it but because it reinforced my own personal decision, made 2 weeks ago, to pull my clips out of SS (and, with regrets, Adobe too) and go exclusive with P5.

In the long run, that may have been a mistake on my part, but right now it feels very good.

Thanks for sharing your experience, which left me with a sad, sour taste in my mouth. Why bother?

ETA: Your hyperlapse is wonderful, BTW. Congratulations on doing such beautiful work.

How many clips is your port? I have been contemplating removing from SS as well and the few I have on IS.

About 650-700 clips, give or take a couple dozen from one site to another.

« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2020, 06:47 »
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I just "liked" your comment not because I actually, ya'know, "liked" it but because it reinforced my own personal decision, made 2 weeks ago, to pull my clips out of SS (and, with regrets, Adobe too) and go exclusive with P5.

In the long run, that may have been a mistake on my part, but right now it feels very good.

Thanks for sharing your experience, which left me with a sad, sour taste in my mouth. Why bother?

ETA: Your hyperlapse is wonderful, BTW. Congratulations on doing such beautiful work.

Do you get many sales on Pond 5, to make it worth it? I'm not exclusive on Pond 5 but I've most clips on there (currently 299) and 244 on Shutterstock but (for me) make many more sales on SS than on P5. I'm curious about where people who are removing their video port from SS are selling. 

« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2020, 07:53 »
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This is my lowest sale to date. I've seen the $1.50 threads but thought I'd just share this anyway. I guess the 90 minutes it took to shoot this clip and the hour to process it is only worth $3.36. Keep up the great work shutterstock.

Here's what SS considers to be worthless. https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1030079846

I just "liked" your comment not because I actually, ya'know, "liked" it but because it reinforced my own personal decision, made 2 weeks ago, to pull my clips out of SS (and, with regrets, Adobe too) and go exclusive with P5.

In the long run, that may have been a mistake on my part, but right now it feels very good.

Thanks for sharing your experience, which left me with a sad, sour taste in my mouth. Why bother?

ETA: Your hyperlapse is wonderful, BTW. Congratulations on doing such beautiful work.

How many clips is your port? I have been contemplating removing from SS as well and the few I have on IS.

About 650-700 clips, give or take a couple dozen from one site to another.

Thanks for that. I'm just not sure P5 will get me the return I need just to break even, let alone get more octane out of sales.

« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2020, 15:11 »
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I just "liked" your comment not because I actually, ya'know, "liked" it but because it reinforced my own personal decision, made 2 weeks ago, to pull my clips out of SS (and, with regrets, Adobe too) and go exclusive with P5.

In the long run, that may have been a mistake on my part, but right now it feels very good.

Thanks for sharing your experience, which left me with a sad, sour taste in my mouth. Why bother?

ETA: Your hyperlapse is wonderful, BTW. Congratulations on doing such beautiful work.

Do you get many sales on Pond 5, to make it worth it? I'm not exclusive on Pond 5 but I've most clips on there (currently 299) and 244 on Shutterstock but (for me) make many more sales on SS than on P5. I'm curious about where people who are removing their video port from SS are selling.

Well, I've only been "video exclusive" with P5 since May 1, so no track record with that status yet.

Before making that switch, however, I was steadily selling more clips through P5 than through Adobe (where my last video sale took place late in 2018) and SS (which to the best of my memory had never sold a single clip for me).

As the old saying goes, Your Miles May Vary (YMMV).

« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2020, 05:38 »
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Just see a 0,60 clip sale. A clip with payed model.
Never seen so low price for a clip...

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2020, 07:19 »
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This is my lowest sale to date. I've seen the $1.50 threads but thought I'd just share this anyway. I guess the 90 minutes it took to shoot this clip and the hour to process it is only worth $3.36. Keep up the great work shutterstock.

Here's what SS considers to be worthless. https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1030079846

Well, $3.36 is a laughable commission of course, but I'm sure the clip will sell more than once (and for higher commissions too), so I'm sure you'll make a profit in the long run for your hard work.

« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2020, 09:13 »
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The collapse in pricing just means everyone stops making high quality and time consuming content. The return on revenue just doesn't justify the cost. Kind of unfortunate there isn't a easy way for the stock agencies to use software to understand which contents should be priced higher due to the level of efforts required.

georgep7

« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2020, 09:19 »
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so I'm sure you'll make a profit in the long run for your hard work

If you search the clip ID lead (if I am not wrong) to a timelapse made with a motorized slider.
100 clips sales to make the cost of the equipment and after that sales will be compensation
for the OP's time and efforts without counting camera gear, cost for moving, time spend.
It is a business. We buy tools to get work done better and for good prices.

No excuses. And taking no prisoners, deletion of clip and listing elsewhere seems one way.

Edit: I never heard of a plumper buying a $300 pneumatic drill and charging $3 for cement drilling and waiting to benefit in the long run...
« Last Edit: May 05, 2020, 09:22 by georgep7 »

« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2020, 09:19 »
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ya welcome to the club

« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2020, 10:02 »
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Agree that this race to the bottom in pricing inevitably kills motivation for us to spend time (and especially money) to create good content. The agencies are incredibly short-sighted - they'll start seeing the quality of submissions decrease to nothing but easy, cheap content, and over time the really good shots they already have will become dated. Can't see this ultimately being a win for anyone.

I'm watching my sale prices on Shutterstock. So far I have enough big money sales to average out the $1-$3 sales. But when/if it becomes mostly cheap sales, I'll dump SS and stick with just Pond5 and Adobe.

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2020, 17:33 »
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so I'm sure you'll make a profit in the long run for your hard work

If you search the clip ID lead (if I am not wrong) to a timelapse made with a motorized slider.
100 clips sales to make the cost of the equipment and after that sales will be compensation
for the OP's time and efforts without counting camera gear, cost for moving, time spend.
It is a business. We buy tools to get work done better and for good prices.

No excuses. And taking no prisoners, deletion of clip and listing elsewhere seems one way.

Edit: I never heard of a plumper buying a $300 pneumatic drill and charging $3 for cement drilling and waiting to benefit in the long run...

Maybe not $3 but multiple drilling jobs should pay back the cost of the pneumatic drill. Same case with video.
He's unlucky this was a low commission but fortunately, the standard commissions of $20+ for video still exist. For now.


« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2020, 17:35 »
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This is my lowest sale to date. I've seen the $1.50 threads but thought I'd just share this anyway. I guess the 90 minutes it took to shoot this clip and the hour to process it is only worth $3.36. Keep up the great work shutterstock.

Here's what SS considers to be worthless. https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1030079846

Well, $3.36 is a laughable commission of course, but I'm sure the clip will sell more than once (and for higher commissions too), so I'm sure you'll make a profit in the long run for your hard work.

It has sold elsewhere for the normal rate. It's laughable that SS sells a clip that's not even a year old for peanuts. I'd rather make 0 than $3 for my hard work.

« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2020, 17:57 »
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What WE as contributors have to remember here is yes you got a measley $3.36 for a clip, SS probably on the same day sold hundreds of OUR clips, they also got at least $3.36 per clip and are laughing all the way to the bank, getting upwards of $500 from those clips for doing nothing other than hosting them.
WE are a gigantic cash cow for these corporations and they love us, The GIG economy has nothing on this mob, talk about robber Barons and Pirates.
And as afar as OUR value they don't care because WE have GIVEN them millions of clips and images to do with as they LIKE, they set the RULES not US.
To add insult to injury there search engines are set to return WHAT they want the end user to see, adding even more control over OUR creations.

Well I have got that off my chest.

Please all stay safe.

« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2020, 06:40 »
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IF you're willing to submit your clip to an agency with its' specific stated terms then stop your whining. You agreed to the terms. If you don't like the terms, remove your footage.

« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2020, 04:30 »
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$3.36 is likely the new $10 per clip sub package.

« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2020, 02:40 »
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IF you're willing to submit your clip to an agency with its' specific stated terms then stop your whining. You agreed to the terms.

These weren't the terms I agreed to when I signed up to SS. They were changed long after the fact.

« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2020, 23:11 »
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IF you're willing to submit your clip to an agency with its' specific stated terms then stop your whining. You agreed to the terms. If you don't like the terms, remove your footage.

These weren't the terms we signed up for. Hey "stop your whining" guy, go away. We don't like you.

« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2020, 01:28 »
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IF you're willing to submit your clip to an agency with its' specific stated terms then stop your whining. You agreed to the terms. If you don't like the terms, remove your footage.

These weren't the terms we signed up for. Hey "stop your whining" guy, go away. We don't like you.


But now you know. so if you dont like the terms now, you can remove them. People always seem surprised when this happens.

« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2020, 14:03 »
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But now you know. so if you dont like the terms now, you can remove them. People always seem surprised when this happens.

How much did you make in sales this week?
« Last Edit: May 21, 2020, 17:16 by thirdbornentertainment »

georgep7

« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2020, 05:33 »
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But now you know. so if you dont like the terms now, you can remove them. People always seem surprised when this happens.

I have to agree on that. I only had the chance to experience it with Hyperstock but i was amazed to read pages and pages on broken trust here and in P5 forum, yet, just a couple of people stated that they will remove content. Sounds extreme? Maybe. But if it happened once it will happen again. Still a newbie but already sick of patroling forums and sites for the next good news. Sick searching china market to find my clips sold for some euros.

Content is king they say. So if anything of mine is useful to a client and sells, fine. If it doesn't sell, again, everything is fine but i just need to make better or on demand content that would justify to price to industry standard or whatever normal pricing is called.


 

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