Author Topic: Anyone have sales today? (Read 43980 times)

Josephine · « **Reply #150 on:** March 21, 2018, 03:18 »

obsessively talking about the good old days is a sign of old age.... just think of your grandparents except you are already one

derek · « **Reply #151 on:** March 21, 2018, 04:19 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on March 21, 2018, 02:44

Yes, it's easy to dream back to the good old days when there was no competition...

But when a portfolio, although good and of high quality, consists 90% of the same subject matter, what can one really expect?

I wouldnt say dreaming back?? why do you say that? its quite obvious isnt it that today is a lot harder then yesterday and there is no need to point that out!

Seems to me you are more interested in private indviduals rather then adding to the conversation. Whats your port like? a "generalist" port I suspect? well that wont get you very far out in the real world of photography, outside stock-photography. In that gigantic world of commissioned, advertising and corporate work the only ports that count is the specialist portfolio 100% geared to what you do! may it be still-life, life-style, medicine, industry, portraits, fashion, glamour, etc, etc.
If a client wanting to buy pictures for a travel catalogue it is of no use he invites photographers carrying studio-work, is it? if he invites photographers planning a aircraft shoot I bet he dont want to see a portfolio of Fashion/glamour?? and the very LAST thing a picture-buyer wants to see is an "everything but nothing " portfolio!

Its horses for courses you see. You been long enough in this business now to have understood that!.. hehe! Oh well....

all the best to you!

derek · « **Reply #152 on:** March 21, 2018, 04:23 »

Quote from: Josephine on March 21, 2018, 03:18

obsessively talking about the good old days is a sign of old age.... just think of your grandparents except you are already one

Nop not yet but I'm working on it! tough titty!

Shelma1 · « **Reply #153 on:** March 21, 2018, 05:41 »

Quote from: derek on March 21, 2018, 02:21

The guru and godfather of advertising Ian Ogilvy, owner of the giant AD_firm O&M once said, " if you got it, flaunt it!! great advice in my books!

just saying people.

You mean David Ogilvy?

derek · « **Reply #154 on:** March 21, 2018, 06:03 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on March 21, 2018, 05:41

Quote from: derek on March 21, 2018, 02:21

The guru and godfather of advertising Ian Ogilvy, owner of the giant AD_firm O&M once said, " if you got it, flaunt it!! great advice in my books!

just saying people.

You mean David Ogilvy?

Yes David of course, Ian is the actor isnt he?

jonbull · « **Reply #155 on:** March 21, 2018, 06:52 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 20, 2018, 16:03

Quote from: jonbull on March 20, 2018, 14:02
... ok u win. good bye

Quote from: jonbull on March 20, 2018, 14:17
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/timolina
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/kucherav
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/karandaev
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/g-stockstudio
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/golubovy
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/klochanko
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/nitr
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/fomaa
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/sergeyshibut?sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery&language=en&page=2

the king

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/belchonock

this from estonia , well once russia:)
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/123object?search_source=base_gallery&language=en&page=1&page=1&sort=newest&safe=true

so let's see ...with a minimal search of 5 minutes i found a group of user who uploaded 1% of entire ss portfolio, who practically *removed coarse language* up completely the food and celebration category, one of the most important in micro, which just 5 years ago of those 1800000 images probable less than 100000 would have been accepted....

now please i want 1.800.000 million images produced by swedish photographer mostly spamming....if you can't find u lose.

You already said that I won! You can't take that back. What are you? A 7 years old?

Nice way to "prove" that 50% of Russians are spammers (or maybe even 100% as you claimed later) by giving only 2 examples from Russia, but 6 from Ukraine and 1 from Italy (!??)

You only managed to match the 2 American examples I gave you. So from an example point of view, this is a draw

It looks to me that you are not so much interested in the definition of "spamming", since you defend the obvious spamming of that Swedish guy. You are rather frustrated by very large ports.
That's a different story. You keep on jumping around from one story to another.

So... what about your previous claims, about low production costs, as the root cause for spamming? Now you changed it and you just declared that cheating is part of the Russian way of being!

Quote from: jonbull on March 20, 2018, 14:17
this is their tactic...cheating....if you haven't been on this country or haven't dealt with soviet people please stop talking, because simply you don't know what you are talking about. cheating is an art there....

Don't you see how xenophobic that is? My God! Who are you?

Oh wait, what am I doing here? I got carried away. You already said that I won!
So... many thanks for graciously conceding your defeat!

Your're such a good sport!

sincerely how can i discuss with somebody who not even realize that Evgeny Karandaev cannot be an italian name ? i mean this show your lack of knowledge of the world.

https://www.dreamstime.com/karandaev_info

samara, russia...

the rest i don't even comment cause it's clear you don't have a clue.
as far as xenophobic you are again totally wrong i love the people there but after 6 years living there often cheating is part of their society. everybody cheat. especially woman.

jonbull · « **Reply #156 on:** March 21, 2018, 06:53 »

anyway seems that spamming aka russian way helps so why not.

Julied83 · « **Reply #157 on:** March 21, 2018, 12:19 »

only 3-4 sales today compare to 20-30 ?! what's happening this week ?

jonbull · « **Reply #158 on:** March 21, 2018, 12:28 »

Quote from: Julied83 on March 21, 2018, 12:19

only 3-4 sales today compare to 20-30 ?! what's happening this week ?

this week?
this month?

derek · « **Reply #159 on:** March 21, 2018, 13:46 »

Quote from: jonbull on March 21, 2018, 12:28

Quote from: Julied83 on March 21, 2018, 12:19
only 3-4 sales today compare to 20-30 ?! what's happening this week ?

this week?
this month?

This year!

Julied83 · « **Reply #160 on:** March 21, 2018, 14:10 »

Today haha !

Minsc · « **Reply #161 on:** March 22, 2018, 01:20 »

In mother Russia, you don't spam Microstock. Microstock spams you.

March has been great so far. If things keep moving at this pace, I may have a new BME...but I probably won't.

derek · « **Reply #162 on:** March 22, 2018, 02:09 »

hahaha! good one Minsc!!

.........actually they are cutting the servers, blocking huge parts in Europe, mainly over night but even during certain hours of the day!

jonbull · « **Reply #163 on:** March 22, 2018, 10:27 »

https://it.fotolia.com/p/204040982?filters%5Bage%5D=1m

another day in the life of ghostspambuster...here we have 10 files of a girl touching her hair randomly....again 33000 files uploaded this year...and i already said there are zillions of people ij those country who will soon enjoy spamming at maximum level.....

i'm still waiting for 1800000 spammed files from sweden...but there is no trace of our friends.....of 180 million files probably 50 60 are from russia ukraine combined and probably 58 are only repetition...if only uncle trump signed a law who prohibit any russian to work for american company.

....now let's begin the flames:))

Shelma1 · « **Reply #164 on:** March 22, 2018, 10:41 »

There's a big difference between amortizing your costs by getting 100 shots of one model in different poses and shooting one photo and cropping that one photo ever so slightly differently 100 or more times. The first is perfectly logical and the second is spamming. I think the port you posted looks pretty logical.

derek · « **Reply #165 on:** March 22, 2018, 11:24 »

Shelma is right! with all due respect johnbull but that port is not spam! just different angles, views thats all.

jonbull · « **Reply #166 on:** March 22, 2018, 11:45 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on March 22, 2018, 10:41

There's a big difference between amortizing your costs by getting 100 shots of one model in different poses and shooting one photo and cropping that one photo ever so slightly differently 100 or more times. The first is perfectly logical and the second is spamming. I think the port you posted looks pretty logical.

while agree to a certain point...this portfolio is totally spamming. sorry.think eery body do this for any session...we will rich one billion in 2 days...this is spam...is like trying to persuade a woman going put for dinner calling her 1000 times...maybe after 1000 she agree...so here maybe after 1000 times uploading somebody will notice this poor photos.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #167 on:** March 22, 2018, 13:34 »

I disagree. An art director might have a layout that works with a model's elbow in one place but not another. Or they might want a slight smile rather than a big smile. It's good to have a series of shots for them to choose from. If I paid for a model I'd want to get as many different shots as feasible for my money.

You'll see similar things with vectors. We'll reuse elements to form different compositions in a series. That's different than drawing one icon and just changing the background color 100 times.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #168 on:** March 27, 2018, 05:26 »

Quote from: derek on March 21, 2018, 04:19

Seems to me you are more interested in private indviduals rather then adding to the conversation. Whats your port like? a "generalist" port I suspect?

I concentrate on nature, wildlife, travel, time lapse, but I'm not afraid to throw in some technology, 3D renders, a computer or a studio shot here and there.

Quote from: derek on March 21, 2018, 04:19

well that wont get you very far out in the real world of photography, outside stock-photography. In that gigantic world of commissioned, advertising and corporate work the only ports that count is the specialist portfolio 100% geared to what you do! may it be still-life, life-style, medicine, industry, portraits, fashion, glamour, etc, etc.
If a client wanting to buy pictures for a travel catalogue it is of no use he invites photographers carrying studio-work, is it? if he invites photographers planning a aircraft shoot I bet he dont want to see a portfolio of Fashion/glamour?? and the very LAST thing a picture-buyer wants to see is an "everything but nothing " portfolio!

Nice little rant, but who is talking about commissioned work? I do stock because I DON'T want to do commissioned work. I say no to 9/10 requests because I like to film/photograph/produce what I want, on my terms, in my own time.

I sell stock to make money selling stock. Not to get corporate gigs... Therefore, I prioritize maximizing stock sales, staying in the "fantasy world".

And specializing in an area is a little bit bigger than specializing in one single subject. For example, if I do nature, and discover that sunrises sell well, I don't fill my portfolio with 90% sunrises. No client needs 900 sunrises, they need one or three. So I fill my portfolio with animals, landscapes, mountain aerials, different locations around the world, etc.

The same if you're an industry specialist. With 90% cogwheels/ball bearings you're a cogwheel/ball bearing specialist, not an industry specialist. All you're doing is diluting your own sales across multiple items. You could be a lion specialist, but would most likely sell a lot more if you also photographed tigers, panthers, cheetahs, zebras, elephants, crocodiles and sharks.

Some variety is of course good, but stop at 10, or 50. Not 1,000... Search engines like sales numbers. They ALL do. With too many slightly different images of the same subject all you're doing is lowering the chances of really high sales on particular items.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #169 on:** March 27, 2018, 06:13 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on March 22, 2018, 13:34

I disagree. An art director might have a layout that works with a model's elbow in one place but not another. Or they might want a slight smile rather than a big smile. It's good to have a series of shots for them to choose from.

No doubt.
This is why SS is encouraging us to "upload more of the same" on the mobile app.
But you must ask yourself if what is good for the art director is also good for you.

Following that advice (i.e."upload more of the same") is a mistake, in my opinion.

While it might be good for art directors and SS, too many choices will dilute your sales and shrink your revenue.

PS. Remember that Apple is very successful despite limitting choices to one or two iPhones per year.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #170 on:** March 28, 2018, 06:03 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 27, 2018, 06:13

But you must ask yourself if what is good for the art director is also good for you.

Following that advice (i.e."upload more of the same") is a mistake, in my opinion.

While it might be good for art directors and SS, too many choices will dilute your sales and shrink your revenue.

PS. Remember that Apple is very successful despite limitting choices to one or two iPhones per year.

Very, very true. Best for the buyer is unlimited angles and variations for free. Not best for us.

derek · « **Reply #171 on:** March 28, 2018, 07:16 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on March 27, 2018, 05:26

Quote from: derek on March 21, 2018, 04:19
Seems to me you are more interested in private indviduals rather then adding to the conversation. Whats your port like? a "generalist" port I suspect?

I concentrate on nature, wildlife, travel, time lapse, but I'm not afraid to throw in some technology, 3D renders, a computer or a studio shot here and there.

Quote from: derek on March 21, 2018, 04:19
well that wont get you very far out in the real world of photography, outside stock-photography. In that gigantic world of commissioned, advertising and corporate work the only ports that count is the specialist portfolio 100% geared to what you do! may it be still-life, life-style, medicine, industry, portraits, fashion, glamour, etc, etc.
If a client wanting to buy pictures for a travel catalogue it is of no use he invites photographers carrying studio-work, is it? if he invites photographers planning a aircraft shoot I bet he dont want to see a portfolio of Fashion/glamour?? and the very LAST thing a picture-buyer wants to see is an "everything but nothing " portfolio!

Nice little rant, but who is talking about commissioned work? I do stock because I DON'T want to do commissioned work. I say no to 9/10 requests because I like to film/photograph/produce what I want, on my terms, in my own time.

I sell stock to make money selling stock. Not to get corporate gigs... Therefore, I prioritize maximizing stock sales, staying in the "fantasy world".

And specializing in an area is a little bit bigger than specializing in one single subject. For example, if I do nature, and discover that sunrises sell well, I don't fill my portfolio with 90% sunrises. No client needs 900 sunrises, they need one or three. So I fill my portfolio with animals, landscapes, mountain aerials, different locations around the world, etc.

The same if you're an industry specialist. With 90% cogwheels/ball bearings you're a cogwheel/ball bearing specialist, not an industry specialist. All you're doing is diluting your own sales across multiple items. You could be a lion specialist, but would most likely sell a lot more if you also photographed tigers, panthers, cheetahs, zebras, elephants, crocodiles and sharks.

Some variety is of course good, but stop at 10, or 50. Not 1,000... Search engines like sales numbers. They ALL do. With too many slightly different images of the same subject all you're doing is lowering the chances of really high sales on particular items.

Well the engineering parts alone sell for around $ 17-23K per year which pleases and yet its all my oil and gas industry images which outsell anything else by lightyears.

All in all I agree with you 100% and you have some great images in your portfolio and some even too good for micro-stock! Youre analogy is correct!

Tommy · « **Reply #172 on:** March 28, 2018, 08:00 »

I’m getting way more single sales, March on Shutterstock is my BME at over 200% up.

Although bear in mind I’m a pretty small fish with 700 photos and 6 videos.

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