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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: kmlPhoto on June 12, 2020, 08:58
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We are not quite half way through June, but I wanted to post my EPD for this month and a few past months:
June 2019 (Full Month) - $.36
May 2020 (Full Month) - $.66
June 2020 (MTD) - $.51
I think after 3 months checking net earnings and EPD we will know what effect the price change is having.
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OK I normally don't track these things, just how much did I put in the bank. But... since you asked, and it's a good easy calculation and anyone else can find it, without doing complicated spread sheets. RPD (Return Per Download) is interesting. Oh and sorry but June 2019 is not relevant, only because of the world economy and the virus. The world has changed.
2020
Jan = .69
Feb = .61
March = .60
April = .52
May = .73
June = .26
>:(
I added before and after COVID-19 just to try to be balanced. I see now way, at this time, that anything is better for most of us. I'm hard pressed to believe it's actually better for anyone. 2020 is already half of 2018. Not very uplifting.
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sorry for the dumb question but...what is EPD? it's different from RPD?
thanks :)
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Down from .67 to just above .50.
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sorry for the dumb question but...what is EPD? it's different from RPD?
thanks :)
Earnings Per Download
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sorry for the dumb question but...what is EPD? it's different from RPD?
thanks :)
Earnings Per Download
Ok, thanks Mantis, i'll do the math and report my EPD
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JAN 0.86
FEB 1.35
MAR 1
APR 0.96
MAY 1.09
JUN 0.86
EDIT: images + videos
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My EPD's for Jan-Jun 2020:
Jan 0.60
Feb 1.82
Mar 0.31 (changed from 0,25 to 0,33 at the end of march)
Apr 0.42
May 0.79
Jun 0.11 (first 12 days)
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OK some crunching done.
Total RPD (image plus video) and images only for this year first:-
Jan:- $1.40 total // images = $0.93
Feb:- $1.29 total // images = $0.77
Mar:- $1.49 total // images = $0.80
Apr:- $1.21 total // images = $0.80
May:- $1.07 total // images = $0.73
Jun:- $1.26 total // images = $0.51
For comparison. Total RPDs for everything from other Junes:-
June 2020:- 1.26 total // images = 0.51
June 2019:- 1.66 // images = 0.92
June 2018:- 1.79 // images = 1.27
June 2017:- 1.58 // images = 1.47
Lifetime average total (10 years). $1.04
A few notes, video makes up 10% of my portfolio but 40% of earnings so skews the overall results. June 2020 ive had in addition to usual, one rare way above average video sale which bring the total up, maybe artificially so.
Ive gone back to 2015 but havent found an image RPD anywhere near as low as the 0.51 at all.
June 2020 based on a few hundred sales so the first days few normal price before the cut shouldn't skew too much.
In overall total it maybe worth noting that my monthly income was relatively stable (within 10% a month for ages) UNTIL April this year where it dropped 40%. May dropped a further 20% on that. COVID i guess.
Im level 5 images, level 4 video currently so January is going to massively reduce earnings given how big a percentage video sales make up for me. Old system was top tier earning band.
So for images based on this years averages, im 36% down on earnings per download for images.
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June 2019 .81
June 2020 .56
ouch
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June 2018 $0.37
June 2019 $0.31
June 2020 $0.44
:)
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sorry for the dumb question but...what is EPD? it's different from RPD?
thanks :)
I was going with the flow, it's RPD. 8)
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I was going with the flow, it's RPD. 8)
Ok, thanks Pete :)
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As I stated in a previous thread, my RPD has decreased, but not as dramatic as others have seen. I reasoned my better fortune was due to the On Demand photos faring better than in the past. Like everyone else, the subs are down.
As we are now two weeks in, I wanted to see where I stand, and if the law of averages caught up to me:
Jan 2020 - 0.63 RPD
Feb 2020 - 0.77 RPD
Mar 2020 - 0.69 RPD
Apr 2020 - 0.72 RPD
May 2020 - 0.55 RPD
Jun 2020 - 0.57 RPD
While I'm doing better than last month, I am still down when compared to the other months of 2020. Also, May was one of my worst months on SS in about 2 years.
Just for laughs (because, otherwise I'd cry), I looked at June 2019's RPD. Sure enough, I was getting about 0.75 RPD. My RPD is down almost 1/3 compared to last year.
I have stopped uploading to SS on 6/1. My next step may be to disable my portfolio
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Last 3 months without counting video
April $0.97
May $0.44
June $0.17
After making the calculation I deleted my best images and disabled the rest
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Last 3 Junes without counting video
2018 $0.90
2019 $0.75
2020 $0.17
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Lifetime video average
$22.67
I haven't had any video sales on June though. But since April I started having a lot lower RPD from videos.
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My sales numbers are not big enough to give a meaningful statistic base over such a short period.
One EL og large SOD more or less has a huge impact on the RPD.
But I have calculated that the RPD for subs is 54% lower, and for OD's 18% lower than they would have been before the cut.
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Left it till now to get a clear picture and f*** me is it grim in there:
looking at subscriptions only
May .38
June .17
gone from all subs at 38c per download down to 10c but sprinkled with a sparse few 40c to 47c
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RPD total numbers, mostly pictures, level 5
SS AS
June 2018 0.82 0.88
June 2019 0.82 1.06
May 2020 0.73 0.95
June 2020 0.84 1.02
AS was outperforming SS in total earnings for the last 2 years, but in June 2020 SS is better (with plenty of $0.10 sales). Go figure.
Of course, my numbers clearly indicate that I must be a troll paid by SS or other dark forces. :)
Back to work ...
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June 2020 $0.00
(But, hey, June isn't over yet!)
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Some more numbers from my side:
Jul '12: 0.41 (first month with SS, about 300 images online)
Apr '13: 0.52
Apr '14: 0.62
Apr '15: 0.60
Apr '16: 0.76 (0.86 incl. Videos)
Apr '17: 0.58 (0.64 incl. Videos)
Apr '18: 1.09 (1.78 incl. Videos)
Apr '19: 0.67 (1.26 incl. Videos)
Apr '20: 0.63 (0.88 incl. Videos)
Jun '20: 0.32 (0.68 incl. Videos)
Overall with SS since 2012: 0.82 - first 3 years images only (images: 0.66, videos: 21.49 (June '20: 15.10))
Until a month ago I thought it is impossible, but now it's reality: MY RPD on DepositPhotos is higher than on SS!
Rob
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RPD - only images
Jun 18 0.65
Jun 19 0.59
Dez 19 0.54
Jan 20 0.54
Feb 20 0.48
Mär 20 0.51
Apr 20 0.48
Mai 20 0.47
Jun 20 0.41
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OK so the month is over meaning enough actual data to do a fair comparison...
For me, royalty per image is down 30% and video over 40%!
(https://whitcombe.org.uk/files/Annotation%202020-07-01%20154142.jpg)
RPD dropped from a lifetime average of $0.76 for images to $0.53 and video down from $23.05 to $13.41
This is despite the last 12 months generally doing better than my 10 year lifetime average on there.
Im level 5 images and level 3 video. The 5% drop (30% to 25%) for video is one thing but overall the introduction of insanely cheap subscription packages and the last 2 weeks having a ton of sub $1 sales dragged that down further.
So looks like the % cuts for video arent the worst part - the new almost free packages are having more of an effect (this started in May).
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JUNE 0.83
JULY 0.87
AUG 0.61
SEPT 1.22
OCT 0.58
NOV 0.79
DEC 0.65
JAN 0.56
FEB 0.56
MAR 0.91
APRIL 0.55
MAY 0.55
JUNE 1.03
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Jan RPD $2.18
Feb RPD $0.54
Mar RPD $0.50
Apr RPD $0.70
May RPD $2.79
Jun RPD $0.38
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Jan RPD $2.18
Feb RPD $0.54
Mar RPD $0.50
Apr RPD $0.70
May RPD $2.79
Jun RPD $0.38
Do you have a small number of downloads overall? just asking as your RPD jumps around so much.
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Second half of 2019 and beginning of 2020 I had from 0.62 to 0.52.
Average is 0,57
After the fall of earnings I got 0.48 for the first two weeks. But I was VERY lucky because I had Subs/Demands/Singles 3:2:3. While normally I have about 3:1:0 or even 8:3:1. So, I'm kind of, disabled the port before it really hit :)
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Jan RPD $2.18
Feb RPD $0.54
Mar RPD $0.50
Apr RPD $0.70
May RPD $2.79
Jun RPD $0.38
Do you have a small number of downloads overall? just asking as your RPD jumps around so much.
Jan 48 downloads
Feb 47 downloads
Mar 63 downloads
Apr 59 downloads
May 72 downloads
Jun 81 downloads
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In my case, I had the worst earnings since July 2019 but the highest amount of sales ever at Shutterstock. Speaking about RPD (subs and on demand only), the drop was more than one third. More detailed analysis in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qboJKNzxbQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qboJKNzxbQ)
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In my case, I had the worst earnings since July 2019 but the highest amount of sales ever at Shutterstock. Speaking about RPD (subs and on demand only), the drop was more than one third. More detailed analysis in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qboJKNzxbQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qboJKNzxbQ)
In my case, I will only now take stock photos when I'm hiking or cycling locally. Therefore not paying any transport costs. Regarding gear, I don't intend to buy anything this year.
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May $0.62
June $0.59
Surprisingly, it didn't fall too much in June. My total revenue only went down about 5% overall, which isn't bad. I had a lot of large SODs to offset the lower subs. I'm making more on ELs and some large OD/SODs because of the commission change.
I don't know if it'll hold up this month. If the ELs and large OD/SODs stop coming in, I'm going to see a bigger decline in July.
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June: $0.114 (31 Downloads, $3.55)
May: $0,812 (45 Downloads, $36.57)
April: $0,415 (48 Downloads, $19.96)
March: $0,314 (84 Downloads, $26.38)
Not a single on demand download in June:
Just this ...1x $0,43 - 2x $0,14 - 4x $0,12 - 3x $0,11 - 21x $0,10
Disabled my portfolio now (wanted to see, how the first month would look like)
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i don't track RPD, since it's easily distorted by a few EL - instead i'm more interested in total earnings and that also shows a picket fence graph, so i a rolling 3 and 6 month average
that's been declining w about same slope for last 4 years, w SS actually holding steadier than otjer agencies. then in the last year SS has joined the other agencies
since the pandemic all agencies have shown a sharper decrease w exception of canva (up sharply from subscriptions)
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My June earnings went up a little but thats because my earnings crashed the 2 previous months completely (i have mainly outdoor/travel related content).
Number of downloads returned to roughly normal after 3 months or a huge decline and this masked the huge RPD drop.
Calculated the earnings under the old tier and for the same month im down hundreds of dollars.
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0.67 for June
0.72 All time (10+ years)
Jan, Feb, March, April, May were all above 0.8
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RPD (99% images, more than 2000 downloads per month)
Jan 0.68
Feb 0.71
Mar 0.71
Apr 0.68
May 0.73
Jun 0.84
It feels like that half of my images I am giving to SS for free and other half brings a decent income.
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Jan RPD $2.18
Feb RPD $0.54
Mar RPD $0.50
Apr RPD $0.70
May RPD $2.79
Jun RPD $0.38
Do you have a small number of downloads overall? just asking as your RPD jumps around so much.
Jan 48 downloads
Feb 47 downloads
Mar 63 downloads
Apr 59 downloads
May 72 downloads
Jun 81 downloads
Thanks
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Mostly vectors and some videos.
JAN RPD $0.72
FEB RPD $0.82
MAR RPD $0.73
APR RPD $0.78
MAY RPD $0.78
JUN RPD $0.66 (had high single sales at the end of the month which upped the rpd, which was more like $0.59)
AVERAGE RPD SINCE DAY 1 IN SHUTTERSTOCK: 0.74$
Definetly have a loss of around 18% in total sales.
I calculated the average rate of subscription, On-Demand, Enhanced and left out single images (no way to know what they were paid before vs now).
Subscription : 0.23$ instead of 0.38$ before.
On demand: 2.81$ instead of 2.85$ before.
Enhanced: 33.70$ instead of 18-22$ before.
Subscription being always around half of total downloads, there is definetly a big loss there.
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jan $0.84
feb $0.74
mrt $0.81
apr $0.70
may $0.64
jun $0.81
in fact, june was my best month of 2020, due to some single & other dl's.
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June 2019 RPD $1.06
May 2020 RPD 85 cents
June 2020 RPD 43cents
Downhill all the way!!!
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I just talked with Josephine and she says to let everyone know her SS RPD is $10. ;D ;D
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I just talked with Josephine and she says to let everyone know her SS RPD is $10. ;D ;D
LOL
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I do stock full time and Shutterstock gives 30% of my total income, so I simply couldn’t afford to disable my whole portfolio. :( What I did however was to disable videos (some animations) and left vectors on (small portfolio of 1300 files); I also didn’t upload a single file since the announcement and won’t upload ever again and come January I might disable everything (until then I can see to it so that I can afford to take a stance and leave).
To give some statistics and insight and help to understand how the new system affects those who stayed: the number of downloads were average in June but total earnings were around 20-25% less (at Level 4 right now, will „level up” to 5 this month - used to be at 0.38 tier before the change). It was my worst month since 2018 December.
My RPD vithout video sales:
All time RPD $0.59
Year 2020 RPD $0.59
May 2020 RPD $0.62
June 2020 RPD $0.47 (-20% compared to 2020 / all time)
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RPD - only images
Total SS 0.59
Jun 18 0.65
Jun 19 0.59
Dez 19 0.54
Jan 20 0.54
Feb 20 0.48
Mär 20 0.51
Apr 20 0.48
Mai 20 0.47
Jun 20 0.52
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I don't want to be accused of trolling or anything like that, but as an istock contributor who sees a lot of hate directed at IS, and I'd be the last to claim they're fault free, I'm surprised at how much higher my RPD is compared to the ones reported here.
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I don't want to be accused of trolling or anything like that, but as an istock contributor who sees a lot of hate directed at IS, and I'd be the last to claim they're fault free, I'm surprised at how much higher my RPD is compared to the ones reported here.
My RPD on IS is (and has always been) higher than RPD on SS.
And that was BEFORE the cut on SS.
The last sales I had on SS were all 0.10 cent, nothing else. So my RPD probably would have dropped to 0.10 cent since june 1st, hadn´t I disabled my portfolio.
On IS it´s always around 0,55 cent.