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« on: July 27, 2012, 12:16 »
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I'm getting an increasing number of totally incomprehensible, scrambled 'captchas'.  I just had to hit the 'new image' button 3 times before getting something I could read, and be able to log in.


I complained to SS. 
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 12:21 by stockastic »


« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2012, 12:57 »
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I know, me too. I have to refresh 3 or 4 times before I can even guess at what they are.  >:(

« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2012, 16:22 »
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And I just received the completely expected, totally patronizing, 100% canned non-reply which basically says sorry, that's the way it is.

« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2012, 18:53 »
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Nice.

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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012, 22:48 »
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You wouldn't believe it, but today I got a captcha in SS that had an English word next to a hebrew word (with vowels!). I can barely find a spanish accents. But now hebrew with diacritic marks? Outrageous.  ???

I'm getting an increasing number of totally incomprehensible, scrambled 'captchas'.  I just had to hit the 'new image' button 3 times before getting something I could read, and be able to log in.


I complained to SS. 

« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2012, 23:41 »
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I'm getting an increasing number of totally incomprehensible, scrambled 'captchas'.  I just had to hit the 'new image' button 3 times before getting something I could read, and be able to log in.


I complained to SS. 
same here. It has decreased my longin frequency to almost 1/10 th. I really cant get the words. So annoying.

fotorob

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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 08:33 »
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The trick is usally that only ONE of the TWO words is required to solve properly in order to gain access. Usually one of the words is much better readable than the others and thats the one to solve...

« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 09:55 »
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The trick is usally that only ONE of the TWO words is required to solve properly in order to gain access. Usually one of the words is much better readable than the others and thats the one to solve...

Your trick doesn't work for me. Must enter both words.

RacePhoto

« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2012, 11:10 »
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Enter the easy word, type the same number of characters (best guess) of the scrambled one.

If you make a mistake USE THE BACK BUTTON!

People forget that they have to re-enter all the data after a fail and that is aggravating. Just go back and all your saved data name and password are there again, and you get a new quiz.

Anyone who reads the forums here or there knows, I have no problems and even the crazy ones with scientific notation or Greek or Russin, I get in just fine. I don't understand the problem. (if I was having a problem, I'd understand?)  ;)

Come on, how tough are these?


Ten of my last recaptchas

Now Really? "THE" or "WATER" which one is too complicated? And these are all smaller than original and I bet anyone who tries can get ten for ten.

There has to be something else beyond the obvious going on here. I don't get it? I also don't get errors like some others. What's the trick?

« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2012, 11:19 »
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racephoto, here's one I got recently. Can you help me with it?  ;D


image upload

Microbius

« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2012, 11:22 »
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Just guess or type anything when you get a silly one, usually works

« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2012, 11:27 »
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Just guess or type anything when you get a silly one, usually works

Then where is the "security"?

Microbius

« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2012, 11:29 »
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I think one of the words is for security and one to help decipher text in some archive that the computer has failed to work out. The clearer one is the security feature.

ETA: http://www.google.com/recaptcha/learnmore
« Last Edit: July 31, 2012, 11:32 by Microbius »

« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2012, 11:41 »
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Captcha may be very annoying but can we look at the big picture here?

SS rarely, if ever, claws back any money from us!!!

Unlike any other agency (or 95% of all agencies) SS delivers in many aspects (sales/royalties, review times, site development, contributor tools AND security).

I know that there is no perfect agency but I can easily live with this captcha "problem" as long as SS easily outperforms EVERY other agency...

Cut them some slack.

RacePhoto

« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2012, 11:56 »
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racephoto, here's one I got recently. Can you help me with it?  ;D


image upload


A winner!  :) (that didn't take long) And yes last week I had two of those with half words, but I was on the laptop and in a restaurant, so I couldn't capture them easily.

You passed the test, you are a human = "Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart"

Here's the only thing to do.   


Next Eight

« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2012, 12:52 »
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I understand the need for security and the need to prevent automated 'bots' from creating fake logins.   I just think there are better ways to do it.  Obviously there is no value in presenting a captcha image that's complete nonsense, it just wastes people's time. 

On other sites I'm seeing  more of the question-and-answer approach, i.e. you must type in the answer to "how much is two times 2?".  That seems plenty secure to me, and a lot less irritating.

« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2012, 13:12 »
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I understand the need for security and the need to prevent automated 'bots' from creating fake logins.   I just think there are better ways to do it.  Obviously there is no value in presenting a captcha image that's complete nonsense, it just wastes people's time. 

On other sites I'm seeing  more of the question-and-answer approach, i.e. you must type in the answer to "how much is two times 2?".  That seems plenty secure to me, and a lot less irritating.
You are right. I suggest you'd write to SS support suggesting this, more efficient, solution.

As long as it's a win-win for both us and the agency I don't see why they wouldn't implement that.


« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2012, 13:40 »
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As microbius points out, one word in the captcha is often (always?) an actual piece of a handwriting recognition job being performed for a customer. So by participating in this craziness we're making money for someone, somewhere.  I don't know if SS is paid to host the 'captcha' but that's possible.

« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2012, 16:39 »
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racephoto, here's one I got recently. Can you help me with it?  ;D



A winner!  :) (that didn't take long) And yes last week I had two of those with half words, but I was on the laptop and in a restaurant, so I couldn't capture them easily.

You passed the test, you are a human = "Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart"

Here's the only thing to do. 


7 in a row of those half words yesterday :(

w7lwi

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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2012, 17:37 »
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racephoto, here's one I got recently. Can you help me with it?  ;D


image upload


Simple type in  "youtuest".  That's all you need.  Same with every other captcha request.  Just type in the one garbled word and your done.  There will never be any symbols, foreign letters, etc. in the garbled word (it's net really a word), just a bunch of English alpha characters.

« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2012, 20:41 »
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racephoto, here's one I got recently. Can you help me with it?  ;D


image upload


Simple type in  "youtuest".  That's all you need.  Same with every other captcha request.  Just type in the one garbled word and your done.  There will never be any symbols, foreign letters, etc. in the garbled word (it's net really a word), just a bunch of English alpha characters.


My gosh don't we all have better things to do with our time than struggling to extract "youtuest" from that illegible mess.  As some else pointed out above, I've had no luck inputting just one word, it demands both.  I suspect that the rules change randomly - just one more way to make it less predictable and harder to crack.

« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2012, 12:08 »
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And I don't understand why one has to be really illegible at all. I thought these were images, and bots don't read images they read text. So even if they were slightly distorted but still readable, wouldn't they still be secure?

« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2012, 12:16 »
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IMHO:  It's like the TSA at the airports - it's gone beyond what's reasonable and rational, no longer makes sense, and is wasting everyone's time.  We should stop accepting it, quit sharing hints and tips on how to negotiate it, and start COMPLAINING LOUDLY.     

« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2012, 16:31 »
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racephoto, here's one I got recently. Can you help me with it?  ;D


image upload


Simple type in  "youtuest".  That's all you need.  Same with every other captcha request.  Just type in the one garbled word and your done.  There will never be any symbols, foreign letters, etc. in the garbled word (it's net really a word), just a bunch of English alpha characters.


to me that is "YouTueet"

RacePhoto

« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2012, 17:48 »
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to me that is "YouTueet"


Me Too. Maybe that explains part of the problem?  ::)

I'll explain this again, for the people who are looking for the solution, and not just something to complain about endlessly. (and something that writing here or on the SS forum, isn't going to change anything?)

When you get one of these crazy images or words...  Hit the arrows. Don't like what you see, hit the arrows again.


 

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