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« on: August 08, 2022, 07:11 »
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as often as it used to be?  That would be the only reason I would turn my portfolio back on there.  But I'll keep my video portfolio turned off on Shutterstock because if I turn it back on, I'll have to move a lot of Pond5 exclusive clips back to regular account.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2022, 07:13 by blvdone »


« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2022, 07:32 »
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Definitely not as often as it used to be. At least not for me. While they were pretty common for me last year, (several double digit commissions per month, often in the 20$+ range), I saw a sharp decline in 2022. Speaking for photo, I don't do video.

« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2022, 07:36 »
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Absolutely not as often and not as high return when they come.

« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2022, 07:58 »
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This year I had 800 foto sales so far with and RPD of $0,294...
- 1 sale for $21
- about 25 sales (on demand) in the range $1-$3
- about 750 sales in the range of $0,10-$0,50 (603 sales for $0,10)

Only 15 video sales are not enough to give stable numbers, RPD of $8,62
- Numbers were; $3,12 - $9,38 - $1,53 - $11,85 - $7,43 - $8,85 - $1,25 - $2,36 - $5,09 - $26,85 - $1,40 - $23,58 - $0,80 - $5,85 - $19,98

Sidenote: with the same video portfolio I had only in June on IStock: 28 Video sales for $204,56 (RPD $7,31)
« Last Edit: August 08, 2022, 08:04 by JustAnImage »

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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2022, 08:36 »
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They still happen, if they didn't, earnings would nosedive.

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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2022, 08:53 »
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This year I had 800 foto sales so far with and RPD of $0,294...
- 1 sale for $21
- about 25 sales (on demand) in the range $1-$3
- about 750 sales in the range of $0,10-$0,50 (603 sales for $0,10)

Only 15 video sales are not enough to give stable numbers, RPD of $8,62
- Numbers were; $3,12 - $9,38 - $1,53 - $11,85 - $7,43 - $8,85 - $1,25 - $2,36 - $5,09 - $26,85 - $1,40 - $23,58 - $0,80 - $5,85 - $19,98

Sidenote: with the same video portfolio I had only in June on IStock: 28 Video sales for $204,56 (RPD $7,31)

RPD of $0,294 is similar to RPD I had in 3 weeks of July I turned my photo portfolio back on.  I checked my old earnings on Shutterstock.  My RPD for photos was in the $0.75 - $1.10 ish range mostly.  RPD of $0,294 is lower than the lowest I get on Adobe Stock photo sales.  Not much hope in Shutterstock these days as I suspected.

« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2022, 11:06 »
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i still get non-subs that keep my RPD between .5 & .65 for the last year, actually a bit higher than previous 2 years!  overall income down 30% from 2 yrs ago

AS has RPD 20-30% higher but consistently only 30% of SS income over last 3 years

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2022, 11:45 »
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i still get non-subs that keep my RPD between .5 & .65 for the last year, actually a bit higher than previous 2 years!  overall income down 30% from 2 yrs ago

AS has RPD 20-30% higher but consistently only 30% of SS income over last 3 years

Sure thing and fact of the business, one place pays us better RPD, but they don't sell as much in real $$$ as another.

And then there are the others that do neither. iStock at 15% and Alamy now 20%, DT somehow has lost the customer base, but pays fairly, the group of others is growing larger every year.

« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2022, 17:09 »
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i still get non-subs that keep my RPD between .5 & .65 for the last year, actually a bit higher than previous 2 years!  overall income down 30% from 2 yrs ago

AS has RPD 20-30% higher but consistently only 30% of SS income over last 3 years

Sure thing and fact of the business, one place pays us better RPD, but they don't sell as much in real $$$ as another.

And then there are the others that do neither. iStock at 15% and Alamy now 20%, DT somehow has lost the customer base, but pays fairly, the group of others is growing larger every year.


Are there ways we can help customers find the agencies that pay producers fairly?

« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2022, 10:03 »
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Absolutely I do. I think I get more than I did "before" but I also have a very large portfolio (closing in on 20k photos). Just had a $120 photo sale a few days ago and June 2022 was my highest month ever.

« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2022, 11:14 »
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just had a $75 sale on SS - an example of why short term reports are statistically invalid - this 1 uncommon sale boosted my monthly RPD from $.60 to $4.40

« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2022, 12:52 »
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Ocassional sale in $20 range, anything above $30, dead. Big drop in ODD sales, at least 50% if not more, 90% of sub sales are in the 0.10-0.20 range. I have about 1500 photos. Earnings drooped, number of sales dropped, there just isn't any excitment anymore, when you get sale, because most are0.10-0.20 subs.
It's like, meh, fu*ck SS.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2022, 12:54 by Dumc »

« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2022, 14:16 »
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I had a $15.47 for one photo DL a few months ago.

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2022, 16:38 »
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Absolutely I do. I think I get more than I did "before" but I also have a very large portfolio (closing in on 20k photos). Just had a $120 photo sale a few days ago and June 2022 was my highest month ever.

Wow.  Nice.

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2022, 16:40 »
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Ocassional sale in $20 range, anything above $30, dead. Big drop in ODD sales, at least 50% if not more, 90% of sub sales are in the 0.10-0.20 range. I have about 1500 photos. Earnings drooped, number of sales dropped, there just isn't any excitment anymore, when you get sale, because most are0.10-0.20 subs.
It's like, meh, fu*ck SS.

I hear you.  Sounds similar to what many contributors are saying.

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2022, 16:42 »
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I had a $15.47 for one photo DL a few months ago.

You must be a relative newcomer.  Did you start after they started the $0.10 subs?

« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2022, 08:57 »
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Two to three times a year I have a big picture sale at SS.
This month I got $70 for a picture.
This will greatly increase my august RPD.


« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2022, 09:02 »
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Occasionally, yes.

These two, for example, are from the last days of July:


« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2022, 11:02 »
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Are there ways we can help customers find the agencies that pay producers fairly?

Buyers will go where there's good content for a low price. Of course low RPD sites get more sales as long we keep giving them our best work. They can undercut the better paying sites for the exact same content. The only way we can get buyers to the better paying sites is to stop giving low RPD sites your content (or at least your best or newest content). Prices have long since dropped past what buyers are prepared to pay. The price drops are all agencies competing for the same pool of customers with each other now. Its entirely under our control.

« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2022, 11:30 »
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...The only way we can get buyers to the better paying sites is to stop giving low RPD sites your content (or at least your best or newest content). Prices have long since dropped past what buyers are prepared to pay. The price drops are all agencies competing for the same pool of customers with each other now. Its entirely under our control.

how is it under our control?  past boycotts have had no effect on agency sales, and buyers likely never even know they happened.  a few among thousands of artists aren't going to cause buyers to move, esp'ly buyers with subscriptions

« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2022, 11:40 »
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...The only way we can get buyers to the better paying sites is to stop giving low RPD sites your content (or at least your best or newest content). Prices have long since dropped past what buyers are prepared to pay. The price drops are all agencies competing for the same pool of customers with each other now. Its entirely under our control.

how is it under our control?  past boycotts have had no effect on agency sales, and buyers likely never even know they happened.  a few among thousands of artists aren't going to cause buyers to move, esp'ly buyers with subscriptions

"Our" as in all contributors.

« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2022, 03:45 »
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So far this month...

Enhanced x 2 - $20 + 26
SOD x 3 - 2x $32 1x 18
Video 1 - $18

That said, there have been a lot of $0.10 sales with below average daily totals.

Edit... another $33 SOD today.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2022, 10:33 by HalfFull »

« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2022, 04:48 »
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I don't offer videos, so I can only say something about the larger revenue for images. I'll define those as more than $20.

In 2022, the highest so far was $78.39.
What's striking in 2022 is that I've only had one Enhanced so far, but I don't include it in my stats because it was $19.25, below my $20 definition. Compared to the same period in 2021, I am down 53% in higher SODs and Enhanced.

In 2021 (Jan 01-Aug 11), there were 6 Enhanced above $20. The highest SODs were each just below $80 (several).

There used to be an average of 12-15 Enhanced during the same period for me. I wonder if the need for Enhanced has declined so much, or if buyers are just not licensing correctly lately.

« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2022, 11:17 »
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I wonder if the need for Enhanced has declined so much, or if buyers are just not licensing correctly lately.

Fair point. Who's actually checking whether the use of an image is correctly licensed?

We don't know who licensed it and we don't know how and when it is being used.
Sure, we can use google alerts and do reverse image searches, but that only reveals a a part of the possible usage of our content.
Anyhow, I'm not doing any of that, except for the occasional search engine stuff to see where my images ended up.
Hundreds of sales per month are impossible to track. And even if we discover misuse of a license, are the agencies willing to chase the buyer?

On the other hand, I see a decline of bigger commissions across all agencies.
Only iStock/Getty and Shutterstock deliver bigger two digit commissions on a stretching every now and then.
I had exactly one bigger $$ sale on AS this year (yet, they still deliver a rather fair RPD).
Ages since I've seen a +2$ sale on Dreamstime, and even longer on other agencies. 

I can hardly imagine the demand for enhanced licenses decreased. Another explanation could be that licensing conditions improved in favor of the buyer. Get more usage options for the same price. Or there's a growing amount of misuse by the buyer. Deliberately or unknowingly.

Licensing conditions are anything but my field of expertise, maybe someone else can tell us more about how the conditions "evolved" over the years.


« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2022, 05:58 »
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It's not so easy to see in the statistics, but I think on average I have about one image sale out of 100 larger than 20$.

And I think it's about the same as before, but the average amount is lower now. And my total number of sales is also lower.


 

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