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Quote from: Pauws99 on March 07, 2017, 03:13

"So are you in denial that SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? " if you had said "So are you in denial that MY SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? " fair enough but there is no evidence that SS sales have fallen. Thats the point

They have nosedived!! and badly so! I dont know about your sales?  considering you are quite busy in this thread I presume you are a full-time stock-photographer and yes then you would feel a reduction in sales even more may it be SS or any of the other agencies.

So where is the concrete evidence that Total SS sales have nosedived? https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/shares-shutterstock-dive-earnings-sales-154600446.html

 

You seem to have misinterpreted the information on that page, as it clearly says year on year sales are up. Share price may be down, which it explains is due to them not hitting their target when it comes to sales increases, but sales haven't nose dived. They haven't even dropped or stayed the same... they've increased.

Sales revenue don't mean jack, it's their operating profit that matters.

Their operating profit is falling very dramatically and has been since 2015

Whose talking about revenue? Sales volume is up thats what the discussion is about. I actually don't care about SS operating profit...im not a shareholder.

If there is an overall increase in sales at SS, it means there is a chance for revenue increase. Not a great one, but a small one and that's all you need sometimes. Common sense says that as the pie gets bigger, everyone gets a smaller piece as contributor numbers increase. That's not necessarily true. The pie gets bigger, but certain contributors take a bigger piece of the pie sometimes. Common sense can fool you.

As a regular buyer, I see what's going on better than most people. I was downloading about 10 images the other day and I noticed that most of the images I was going to download belong to one of the more prolific contributors...African Studio. I work in the healthcare space and these guys have 17,000 healthcare photos in their portfolio.

You know what else I noticed? They have good keywording. They have over 40 keywords each to maximize discoverability. I think many of you guys are looking at things that doesn't exist. While some of you see threats from Russia, Ukraine, Poland, and parts of Asia, I see the biggest threats from the big studios like African Studio, and RawPixel.com who are eating a bigger piece of the pie and leaving scraps for everyone else.

I expect the toughest competition from big studios with high quality work and high quality keywording, not from inexperience upstarts. Most small contributors are too inexperienced and doesn't produce good keywording, and their work will rarely be seen. Big studios dominate a good part of the search results. i suspect that the top 10% of the contributors make 90% of the profits, leaving the last 10% to the other 90% of contributors.

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Quote from: PixelBytes on February 25, 2017, 14:20

Yes, people from lower income countries are doing well, but most buyers are from western Euriope, Australia,  and North America.

 

Where is 'Euriope'?

In my tiny keyboard letters and big clumsy hands.   I corrected it, but it's not my first typo and not gonna be my last.

Number 2 for me.

If there is an overall increase in sales at SS, it means there is a chance for revenue increase. Not a great one, but a small one and that's all you need sometimes. Common sense says that as the pie gets bigger, everyone gets a smaller piece as contributor numbers increase. That's not necessarily true. The pie gets bigger, but certain contributors take a bigger piece of the pie sometimes. Common sense can fool you.

As a regular buyer, I see what's going on better than most people. I was downloading about 10 images the other day and I noticed that most of the images I was going to download belong to one of the more prolific contributors...African Studio. I work in the healthcare space and these guys have 17,000 healthcare photos in their portfolio.

You know what else I noticed? They have good keywording. They have over 40 keywords each to maximize discoverability. I think many of you guys are looking at things that doesn't exist. While some of you see threats from Russia, Ukraine, Poland, and parts of Asia, I see the biggest threats from the big studios like African Studio, and RawPixel.com who are eating a bigger piece of the pie and leaving scraps for everyone else.

I expect the toughest competition from big studios with high quality work and high quality keywording, not from inexperience upstarts. Most small contributors are too inexperienced and doesn't produce good keywording, and their work will rarely be seen. Big studios dominate a good part of the search results. i suspect that the top 10% of the contributors make 90% of the profits, leaving the last 10% to the other 90% of contributors.

haha!  the shutterstock forum! havent been there for years but popped in a few hours back OMG!!! its like reading the bible of death. There is a thread there highlighting daily earnings and reading that one gets the impression the site is going bust!  I mean really haha! its so bad it comical.

Quote from: derek on March 08, 2017, 06:40

haha!  the shutterstock forum! havent been there for years but popped in a few hours back OMG!!! its like reading the bible of death. There is a thread there highlighting daily earnings and reading that one gets the impression the site is going bust!  I mean really haha! its so bad it comical.

I don't find it funny.

The same pattern I am seeing at Envito.

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Quote from: Herg on March 06, 2017, 05:59

Over a cliff big time. Absolutely trashed my sales. I fear this is the law of diminishing returns.

In 2010 you wrote this. Seems like nothing much has changed? Did you ever get much accepted at SS?

Quote from: Herg on December 02, 2010, 11:44

Terrible month. Photo sales have dropped every month this year so far. Dec up to now is even worse. Absolutely awful.

So are you in denial that SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? Have you read the forums ? Since they changed the site.

And for your interest I get almost every image accepted.